Axes give -1 to stamina and shovels are -5 to intellect. You get these in beginning zone and nobody uses them past level 12. You can't dual wield with the larger sizes so they are actually horrible for questing.
They have slow attack, lower crit % and the lower int also reduces initiative. They are fine at low levels but suck against armor of any kind and in raids they're a meme. You can barely solo low level bears with them, for example.
There are over 300 varieties of palm in Florida alone.
A Chilean Wine Palm can bee several feet thick at the base and a Pineapple Palm basically has armor.
These are all decorative trees though--Indonesians and most people that live near equatorial frosts use machetes for bushcraft.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Acrocomia aculeata
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Rent a chainsaw.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That bad? I'm trying not to carry too much
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If that's your primary target and you have several to cut the chainsaw is your best bet. That type of palm can be an absolute cunt. Your other option is a pry bar for the outer scale and a finer saw for the rhizomes. Palm is basically a giant, pulpy herb and it cuts more like celery than lumber.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
There's literally 200 inside a 1.5 acre property
My friend thinks he can do it with an axe, I tried a regular saw last time and I couldn't get through lenghtwise
Horizontally it sliced like butter
3 weeks ago
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>200 in 1.5 acres
Rent a bulldozer. You're going to have to deal with the root bundles so might as well do it all at once. That's well above what is reasonable to cut manually.
3 weeks ago
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But I'm talking more about an PrepHoleing
First to make a safe space in between all the thorns and also to make some shelter with the logs
2 weeks ago
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Palm is an awful building material. It was traditionally used because it was available, not because it was good.
You can get a small chainsaw for under 200 bucks.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's very heavy and I have to hike a long way
Anyway it's this Saturday and I've decided on the big axe
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
X Series ECHO chainsaw CS-2511T
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I appreciate the suggestion but I kinda want to go unnoticed
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
How is hacking away with an axe, "stealth"?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I could be a wild goat ramming against a tree
2 weeks ago
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Whole premise sounds kinda retarded, not gonna lie. You're going on a long hike with a friend to a 1.5 acre plot where you want to cut down a bunch of these thorny ass hell trees into logs and build some junglemoron hut out of them, but you need to do it with hand tools because you want to be stealthy? My advice is come up with something better to do with your time.
Are you in fucking paraguay anon?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am in fucking Paraguay and it's the wet season so the only PrepHoleing I can do right now is going to a friends abandoned property and try to clean it up a little
Don't you guys have fun little adventures anymore?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
We fuckin do. It can be fun.
But get a chainsaw you moron. Doing it all by hand will be a bitch
2 weeks ago
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I cannot afford
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
saw beats axe anon
fixed stainless handsaws.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Okay, this sounds Looney Tunes as fuck but it is a legitimate suggestion: Try blasting the trees. You'll have to deal with the stumps anyway if you're truly trying to clear the land, blasting will help you with this.
Can you get ammonium nitrate fertilizer where you are? Has to be 100% pure. Look up how to make ANFO for the bulk explosive and HMTD for the blasting caps (I choose those two because they can be made from materials that are relatively easy to get), stick it in PVC pipes or something to make yourself some poor man's dynamite. Drill out a big ass hole in each tree, right down at ground level. Put your homemade dynamite in the hole, light the fuse, and fuckin run for it. If the police come to investigate the explosions tell them you were being shot at by the cartel lol
Dynamite is how people used to clear out stumps anyway, before they had heavy equipment.
But yeah if you can't do that your best bet is the biggest motherfucking saw you can get your hands on. Try working it together, you and your friend each hold one end. But good luck dealing with the stumps after that
I keep a garden shovel in my truck for when I’m cooking with buddies in someone’s backyard. Also take it kayak camping because fuck it I can and it’s good for poop holes.
On my back, just a trowel.
I carry one of those cheap hatchets you can buy for like $20. Pounds tent pegs in hard ground, splits wood, will chop brush. It's an axe head so sharpening it is the easiest thing ever. If you need to cut timber bring a saw.
Small shovel (as in milsurp troop size, not a shit trowel) and a pack axe. You can get most any camp digging done with a smaller shovel, but if you try to split logs with a hatchet you're gonna have a bad time
Axes give -1 to stamina and shovels are -5 to intellect. You get these in beginning zone and nobody uses them past level 12. You can't dual wield with the larger sizes so they are actually horrible for questing.
shovels are excellent melee weapons with reasonable durability
They have slow attack, lower crit % and the lower int also reduces initiative. They are fine at low levels but suck against armor of any kind and in raids they're a meme. You can barely solo low level bears with them, for example.
Titanium trowel, and a Silky Saw
>Silky Saw
The wood I'm trying to cut is too wet for a saw
I've tried before and the saw's teeth get stuck on the fibers
Like rotten or green wood?
It's a kind of palm tree that has a lot of thorns
I can make small logs with a saw no problem but I want long logs cut down lengthwise
Palm isn't a tree. There is exactly zero wood on a palm.
Ok so how do I cut it in half?
There are over 300 varieties of palm in Florida alone.
A Chilean Wine Palm can bee several feet thick at the base and a Pineapple Palm basically has armor.
These are all decorative trees though--Indonesians and most people that live near equatorial frosts use machetes for bushcraft.
Acrocomia aculeata
Rent a chainsaw.
That bad? I'm trying not to carry too much
If that's your primary target and you have several to cut the chainsaw is your best bet. That type of palm can be an absolute cunt. Your other option is a pry bar for the outer scale and a finer saw for the rhizomes. Palm is basically a giant, pulpy herb and it cuts more like celery than lumber.
There's literally 200 inside a 1.5 acre property
My friend thinks he can do it with an axe, I tried a regular saw last time and I couldn't get through lenghtwise
Horizontally it sliced like butter
>200 in 1.5 acres
Rent a bulldozer. You're going to have to deal with the root bundles so might as well do it all at once. That's well above what is reasonable to cut manually.
But I'm talking more about an PrepHoleing
First to make a safe space in between all the thorns and also to make some shelter with the logs
Palm is an awful building material. It was traditionally used because it was available, not because it was good.
You can get a small chainsaw for under 200 bucks.
It's very heavy and I have to hike a long way
Anyway it's this Saturday and I've decided on the big axe
X Series ECHO chainsaw CS-2511T
I appreciate the suggestion but I kinda want to go unnoticed
How is hacking away with an axe, "stealth"?
I could be a wild goat ramming against a tree
Whole premise sounds kinda retarded, not gonna lie. You're going on a long hike with a friend to a 1.5 acre plot where you want to cut down a bunch of these thorny ass hell trees into logs and build some junglemoron hut out of them, but you need to do it with hand tools because you want to be stealthy? My advice is come up with something better to do with your time.
Are you in fucking paraguay anon?
I am in fucking Paraguay and it's the wet season so the only PrepHoleing I can do right now is going to a friends abandoned property and try to clean it up a little
Don't you guys have fun little adventures anymore?
We fuckin do. It can be fun.
But get a chainsaw you moron. Doing it all by hand will be a bitch
I cannot afford
saw beats axe anon
fixed stainless handsaws.
Okay, this sounds Looney Tunes as fuck but it is a legitimate suggestion: Try blasting the trees. You'll have to deal with the stumps anyway if you're truly trying to clear the land, blasting will help you with this.
Can you get ammonium nitrate fertilizer where you are? Has to be 100% pure. Look up how to make ANFO for the bulk explosive and HMTD for the blasting caps (I choose those two because they can be made from materials that are relatively easy to get), stick it in PVC pipes or something to make yourself some poor man's dynamite. Drill out a big ass hole in each tree, right down at ground level. Put your homemade dynamite in the hole, light the fuse, and fuckin run for it. If the police come to investigate the explosions tell them you were being shot at by the cartel lol
Dynamite is how people used to clear out stumps anyway, before they had heavy equipment.
But yeah if you can't do that your best bet is the biggest motherfucking saw you can get your hands on. Try working it together, you and your friend each hold one end. But good luck dealing with the stumps after that
use a concrete hand saw but sharpen it well
Don't recall ever using a shovel while "out"
What do you do if it starts raining and you need a moat? Or if you're hiding from someone and need to make a dakota fire pit to hide your camp?
If you're with a group and/or spend several days in a single camp you need a proper designated pooping hole.
I keep a garden shovel in my truck for when I’m cooking with buddies in someone’s backyard. Also take it kayak camping because fuck it I can and it’s good for poop holes.
On my back, just a trowel.
I carry one of those cheap hatchets you can buy for like $20. Pounds tent pegs in hard ground, splits wood, will chop brush. It's an axe head so sharpening it is the easiest thing ever. If you need to cut timber bring a saw.
big axe small shovel. All I can think you're using a shovel for is for the bathroom and maybe digging out a fire pit.
It's probably going to rain to I need it for a moat
Small shovel (as in milsurp troop size, not a shit trowel) and a pack axe. You can get most any camp digging done with a smaller shovel, but if you try to split logs with a hatchet you're gonna have a bad time
I have found picrelated to be a better tool for most things I use an axe for. easier to carry, more versatile, can firewood.