Open carry while hiking sure. If you're concealed carrying you'll be struggling. Anything heavy sucks long term. I switched to pocket carrying an lcr and never went back. I'd say it's a home run for hiking, camping, fishing, as a glove box travel gun and for home defense though.
Yeah, you’re gonna have to carry that thing. It’s pounds you can drink or eat.
Go light. Something snubby.
Unless you're fat or weak concealing a full sized handgun should be no problem. It takes more effort but is it really worth risking your life for convenience? I'll never understand how people feel fine carrying a compact handgun. You're already fucked in most situations with a handgun against anyone well armed why fuck yourself even more?
I started with a P229. Honestly it isn't fun to conceal. I also hated 4 o clock carrying iwb because of how it felt while sitting and driving. It's like putting your wallet in the back pocket but 100x worse. Then I would check for it all day and walk funny to always feel it pressed against my back. I did this for years. I live in an extremely hot climate (top 3 hottest cities in US) and wearing long, baggy, dark t-shirts to hide the print became a pain in the ass.
Let me ask you for real, what on earth do you expect to run into that 5 rounds of hot .38 special or 7 rounds of 9mm (p938) can't handle killing? In the city, nothing. But against a bear or in the wild with moose and shit everywhere I can see carrying something bigger.
It's not even a compromise, it's just realistic and more comfortable.
I'm not worried about a few rounds not dropping them hell 7 shots from a .22 will kill someone. The problem arises when people are shooting back. 5-7 shots doesn't really cut it when criminals are packing aks or drum mag glocks to rob gas stations.
>risk your life >subcompact pistols have greater capacity than your revolver
yeah nah
I carry a full size auto loader I should clarify I'm arguing for full sized handguns not revolvers.
>5-7 shots doesn't really cut it when criminals are packing aks or drum mag glocks to rob gas stations.
I want to argue but that's actually happened here. A string of armed robberies on gas stations that involved in a few getting domed. I can't argue it. But I believe in this situation if you don't have the drop on them, no wonder 9 will help you.
>5-7 shots doesn't really cut it when criminals are packing aks or drum mag glocks to rob gas stations.
If a wild pack of future doctors and very tall children on a milk run start blasting with AKs and drum mag equipped switched Glocks then a revolver is going to be as good as a full sized 9 with 17 in the mag, because you're either eating a bunch of lead to the face or running as fast as you can. When carrying it's also important to know when NOT ro stand and fight.
>carry
assuming conceal carry, no, probably not, it's incredibly difficult to conceal and all the holsters suck.
Not gonna go too deeply into cartridge arguments but generally some people agree that pistol cartridges are so weak anyways that it's better to have 12 shots that might hit something important then 6 large shots that miss and give them time to get you before they bleed out >inb4 I carry it fine
show print >camping
sure, if you can open carry it's a lot more comfortable, not as heavy as a rifle, has a bit more umph if you're worried about animals, why not >home defense
probably not, you're not carrying it with you so you can carry something a lot larger like a rifle or shotgun, and you're more likely to deal with 2 intruders that need the capacity vs 1 bear that needs more then 6 shots to the head
I can shoot a p365 about as well, and it's a lot more comfortable. why not
I will agree though, if you're willing to sacrifice performance because it's unlikely you'll need it, you probably don't need to carry anyway
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If you can live with 1 less round, the Model 60 isn't a bad choice. Five shots of .357 Magnum out of a 3" barrel and it only weighs 23 oz. Overall, t's not a bad compromise between a full-sized revolver and a lightweight snubby.
>I'll never understand how people feel fine carrying a compact handgun.
Because hot Underwood or Buffalo Bore 38 +P is perfectly capable of taking down the main threats I face. Not black bears or mountain lions (I've never seen one where I hike) but bulls loose in National Forests and third worlders' loose shitbulls on my night walks.
I think you're trolling but not dressing like a bum or you're in winter conditions while carrying a full size handgun is pretty hard
Pretty much everyone I know who tried to carry a full size handgun just stopped carrying
I used to be fat and that made it very difficult
Lost weight and I still don't like to because of printing
Tucking your shirt in looks nice
Now that I lost weight I generally carry a g19 AIWB without a light and optic so I agree but it's less comfortable than pocket carry
I'd rather people buy a g19 first since shooting it is fun, then buy something for chill pocket carry so they don't have an excuse to stop carrying
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Unless you're fat or weak concealing a full sized handgun should be no problem. It takes more effort but is it really worth risking your life for convenience? I'll never understand how people feel fine carrying a compact handgun. You're already fucked in most situations with a handgun against anyone well armed why fuck yourself even more?
I often carry a P226 with me, but I also only ever wear trackpants because jeans are too uncomfortable for me, so I have to constantly lift my pants up so it doesn't sag down. Might switch to a 3" Model 60 in .357 Magnum
You should of seen me when I first bought it, I just tucked it in and hoped the elastic was enough to hold it. But after a week it was shifting wayy too much and I was afraid it will drop
I don’t know about carry but the other two are solid reasons. 357 will solve any problem on land that has a heartbeat before you can empty the cylinder.
I shot someone with my SW m60 3" and it killed the shit out of them in a dream. As well all know dream world is where guns jam or have 1000lbs triggers when you need em most. Whenever dream me goes out, he packs a wheelgat to protect real me from nightmares of getting killed. I trust his judgment more than any anon and revolvers saved my sleep more than any other gun type.
Open carry while hiking sure. If you're concealed carrying you'll be struggling. Anything heavy sucks long term. I switched to pocket carrying an lcr and never went back. I'd say it's a home run for hiking, camping, fishing, as a glove box travel gun and for home defense though.
If you can live with 1 less round, the Model 60 isn't a bad choice. Five shots of .357 Magnum out of a 3" barrel and it only weighs 23 oz. Overall, t's not a bad compromise between a full-sized revolver and a lightweight snubby.
it would be good for camping/innawoods. id recommend a .357. you can use .38sp in it too and that's cheaper and easier to practice with. biggest downside is going to be weight, but if that doesnt bother you then go for it.
not really unless you just like them, they're the only thing you can afford & you need it right now, & if they're the only thing you can legally own wherever you are. Semi auto mag fed pistols are better in every way except in high calibers but there isn't really much of a difference between centerfire calibers against people. If you're carrying for bears, maybe look into 10mm or something. >inb4 muh jams >inb4 "they'll just run away when i pull it out!" >inb4 40,000 DGUs & I've never seen X happen
Why would you buy a Colt? It's 1800 for a gun that is not even as good as an Italian repro which is a third the price. Seriously, modern Colt SAAs have inconsistent throats, a bunch of end shake, and thinner cylinder walls than the Ubertis. Get yourself three Cattlemen and live out your Ocelot-juggling-guns fantasy.
>polar bear
everything else aside, revolver mechanisms don't like cold, I'd rather have a semi auto then a revolver in sub zero
>You will carry the underpowerd generic plastic gun and you will be happy.
bit it conformist scum
>you will carry 10 less shots and you will be happy
bite it contrarian homosexual
Let's be real here, as long as you get a good holster for it, and practice with it regularly you'll be better off than 99% of the noguns homosexuals that come here trying to convince you yay/nay over minutia. If you like it, get it.
No wheelgun here but I have been eyeballing a 686 for a long time.
the argument that someone trained with bad equipment will be better then someone without a clue with good equipment, while true, ignores that someone trained with good equipment laps both
Revolvers are awesome, but I wouldn't use it for anything serious
ehhh, gonna stop you right there. you need to hit the central nervous system to cause a target to instantly go down regardless of caliber. Some adrenaline-filled pavement ape coming for your TV will be alive and chimping for 20-40 seconds even after you put a goldot through his aorta. And in a defense situation that's fucking forever. If you think "big ole boolet" is gonna physically knock them over I have sad news for you.
Revolvers are great for people with phobias, like having a weird hangup about keeping one in the pipe, or being worried about appendix carry. In many ways they are "bad" equipment, but I'm not really comfortable carrying most guns when they're pointed at MY equipment - if you catch my drift. My revolver actually gets carried so for me it is superior to anything else.
I can hit holes on holes at 75 feet offhand with my Python and can barely do plate sized groupings with my 9mm in comparison. Revolvers can be scary accurate for what they are and a magnum load is no joking matter to be hit by.
Honestly in a human target a .357 magnum is a waste. Just load good .38s for personal protection.
>I'm not really comfortable carrying most guns when they're pointed at MY equipment
DAO wheely boi for ultimate carry. I've taught my kids not to handle guns without supervision, but I'm pretty sure they couldn't pull the trigger if they tried.
Back when I watched cop shows I noticed they usually acted more cautious when going against criminals with revolvers
I wonder if it's because the cops will assume they're more skilled than the usual thugs who mag dump
Either way, revolvers seem to have some amount of psychological effect unless they're snub-nosed and/or being used by women
I can hit holes on holes at 75 feet offhand with my Python and can barely do plate sized groupings with my 9mm in comparison. Revolvers can be scary accurate for what they are and a magnum load is no joking matter to be hit by.
Let's be real here, as long as you get a good holster for it, and practice with it regularly you'll be better off than 99% of the noguns homosexuals that come here trying to convince you yay/nay over minutia. If you like it, get it.
No wheelgun here but I have been eyeballing a 686 for a long time.
>is buying X a good idea
Buying literally ANY gun is a good idea
Out of all the guns i purchased, not once have i thought "this was a mistake", except maybe a cobra 9mm derringer but thats only because i dry fired it so much the hammer busted to shit
it was only $90 anyway so who cares
Camping and home defense absolutely. .357 and .44 mag are both awesome, and a ton of fun to shoot. 4inch is what's considered full size, right? They're heavy, and can be awkward to conceal carry. I think I would take a semi-auto in most concealed cases, but if I can open carry while hiking or the like, I would go with the revolver.
My daily carry for jacket season is a 686+
it was a bitch to carry owb it sags belts like no other but I splurged and got a Galco miami rig for it, nothing beats 21 rounds of .357 just chilling on your shoulders
If I could only have one handgun for the rest of my life it would be a gp100 4in. Its big and heavy and you only get 6 shots but you won't panic dump and practice will make you a better shooter overall with a DA/SA revolver.
Handloading or mixing ammo types is no problem, you can dial a hp 357 or 38 snake shot on the trail and you dont have detachable parts like mags that can turn your glock into a single shot. Hell for a protracted shituation if you got a pocket of loose rounds you can hold out a lot longer than having to reload mags to reload your gun.
Likely I'm never gonna kill anything cause avoiding people and dangerous animals will save your ass time and money that could be better spent at the range, where I rival the AR pistol fans in being a loud asshole while looking so much more dignified and actually hitting shit at 15 yes.
GP100s are pretty cool.
I'd rather use a Glock 20 if you want a big bore do it all handgun. More capacity and the ability to mount a light is pretty important since you need to see what you're shooting. They also lighter and slimmer than the standard GP100. Though you may lose a lot more hearing compared to smaller cartridges. I'd imagine both .357 magnum and 10mm are the same-ish decibels
Carrying not so much. Heres the thing op: the more you like a firearm, the more likely you will train with it. My first pistol was a colt .357. I dont own revolvers anymore, but you should buy the guns you like. The chance of you getting into some massive shoot out with well-armed, trained and determined advisories is about nil. Do you work in a israeliteelry store? Do you sell lots of dope? Are you about to testify against an organized crime syndicate? Are you a door kicker for a SWAT team? Then dont worry about it. Have fun.
>Do you work in a israeliteelry store? Do you sell lots of dope? Are you about to testify against an organized crime syndicate?
That's what's funny about people concealing small guns. They say the chance of a shootout with someone well armed is next to 0. So is the chance of shooting anyone period. Why prepare for a statistically unlikely event just to prepare for another statistic not to be a part of that equation? I'm more likely to shoot someone that has weapon than someone who's unarmed. So prepare for the worst and carry something half decent. The lcp-max is a good example.
>Why prepare for a statistically unlikely event just to prepare for another statistic not to be a part of that equation?
It's a consequence of different people assessing different conditions in different ways and coming up with different solutions. There's no threat model that's one-size-fits-all, so everyone just makes their own judgements and acts accordingly. It's up to (you) which level of statistically unlikely is best to stop at.
By that logic is it not unreasonable to say "screw handguns" and just carry a rifle with you at all times because statistically pistols suck at stopping people and you may be the first person to be mugged by 20 people at once
>you may be the first person to be mugged by 20 people at once
My buddy was jumped by 10-ish guys in Vegas years ago. He was brutalized. We did jiu-jitsu and Muay Thai together and he didn't even bother fighting back after the first few seconds, he just let them stomp the shit out of him.
Just a bunch of drunk dudes walking down the street. They didn't rob him, didn't know him. He isn't affiliated with some gang and neither were they, almost everyone involved was white. They just decided to jump him for fun.
Don't go to old Vegas everyone, you'll see white people unleash their inner ape. Sorry about your fren anon, hope he learned he needs at least an uzi or 10 other drunk people who blew their kids college funds on 23 red0aa8ev
I'll add "roaming packs of belligerent drunks" to my list of reasons I should never go to Vegas
We live in Vegas and I still never go to down there because it's too congested. Ironically it was actually down Fremont, good job on Vegas jumping white people lore.
how do you intend to carry it?
Prison pocket.
thats a big colon
4U
4 dudes
got two hands
Between my ass cheeks.
bunch of states have relaxed rules about concealed carry.
the real answer is any gung is better than0gunz
captcha is the worst garbage ever
Nice dubs. Revolvers are based. naggers fear them.
camping and home defense sure. Carry? Good luck concealing it and dealing with the weight
Unless you're fat or weak concealing a full sized handgun should be no problem. It takes more effort but is it really worth risking your life for convenience? I'll never understand how people feel fine carrying a compact handgun. You're already fucked in most situations with a handgun against anyone well armed why fuck yourself even more?
I started with a P229. Honestly it isn't fun to conceal. I also hated 4 o clock carrying iwb because of how it felt while sitting and driving. It's like putting your wallet in the back pocket but 100x worse. Then I would check for it all day and walk funny to always feel it pressed against my back. I did this for years. I live in an extremely hot climate (top 3 hottest cities in US) and wearing long, baggy, dark t-shirts to hide the print became a pain in the ass.
Let me ask you for real, what on earth do you expect to run into that 5 rounds of hot .38 special or 7 rounds of 9mm (p938) can't handle killing? In the city, nothing. But against a bear or in the wild with moose and shit everywhere I can see carrying something bigger.
It's not even a compromise, it's just realistic and more comfortable.
I'm not worried about a few rounds not dropping them hell 7 shots from a .22 will kill someone. The problem arises when people are shooting back. 5-7 shots doesn't really cut it when criminals are packing aks or drum mag glocks to rob gas stations.
I carry a full size auto loader I should clarify I'm arguing for full sized handguns not revolvers.
>5-7 shots doesn't really cut it when criminals are packing aks or drum mag glocks to rob gas stations.
I want to argue but that's actually happened here. A string of armed robberies on gas stations that involved in a few getting domed. I can't argue it. But I believe in this situation if you don't have the drop on them, no wonder 9 will help you.
>5-7 shots doesn't really cut it when criminals are packing aks or drum mag glocks to rob gas stations.
If a wild pack of future doctors and very tall children on a milk run start blasting with AKs and drum mag equipped switched Glocks then a revolver is going to be as good as a full sized 9 with 17 in the mag, because you're either eating a bunch of lead to the face or running as fast as you can. When carrying it's also important to know when NOT ro stand and fight.
>risk your life
>subcompact pistols have greater capacity than your revolver
yeah nah
>carry
assuming conceal carry, no, probably not, it's incredibly difficult to conceal and all the holsters suck.
Not gonna go too deeply into cartridge arguments but generally some people agree that pistol cartridges are so weak anyways that it's better to have 12 shots that might hit something important then 6 large shots that miss and give them time to get you before they bleed out
>inb4 I carry it fine
show print
>camping
sure, if you can open carry it's a lot more comfortable, not as heavy as a rifle, has a bit more umph if you're worried about animals, why not
>home defense
probably not, you're not carrying it with you so you can carry something a lot larger like a rifle or shotgun, and you're more likely to deal with 2 intruders that need the capacity vs 1 bear that needs more then 6 shots to the head
I can shoot a p365 about as well, and it's a lot more comfortable. why not
I will agree though, if you're willing to sacrifice performance because it's unlikely you'll need it, you probably don't need to carry anyway
>1 less round
the future is now old man
>I'll never understand how people feel fine carrying a compact handgun.
Because hot Underwood or Buffalo Bore 38 +P is perfectly capable of taking down the main threats I face. Not black bears or mountain lions (I've never seen one where I hike) but bulls loose in National Forests and third worlders' loose shitbulls on my night walks.
I think you're trolling but not dressing like a bum or you're in winter conditions while carrying a full size handgun is pretty hard
Pretty much everyone I know who tried to carry a full size handgun just stopped carrying
with AIWB you can easily carry a full-size pistol with a light and optic assuming you aren't tucking your shirt in.
I used to be fat and that made it very difficult
Lost weight and I still don't like to because of printing
Tucking your shirt in looks nice
Now that I lost weight I generally carry a g19 AIWB without a light and optic so I agree but it's less comfortable than pocket carry
I'd rather people buy a g19 first since shooting it is fun, then buy something for chill pocket carry so they don't have an excuse to stop carrying
I often carry a P226 with me, but I also only ever wear trackpants because jeans are too uncomfortable for me, so I have to constantly lift my pants up so it doesn't sag down. Might switch to a 3" Model 60 in .357 Magnum
You should get a phlster ligma
You should of seen me when I first bought it, I just tucked it in and hoped the elastic was enough to hold it. But after a week it was shifting wayy too much and I was afraid it will drop
Are you a wop or a Slav?
I like my balls not to suffocate
I don’t know about carry but the other two are solid reasons. 357 will solve any problem on land that has a heartbeat before you can empty the cylinder.
It's certainly not the worst idea. Plus when was the last time you've seen or heard of a revolver malfunctioning in a self-defense shooting?
When was the last time you've seen or heard of a revolver in a self-defense shooting, period?
I shot someone with my SW m60 3" and it killed the shit out of them in a dream. As well all know dream world is where guns jam or have 1000lbs triggers when you need em most. Whenever dream me goes out, he packs a wheelgat to protect real me from nightmares of getting killed. I trust his judgment more than any anon and revolvers saved my sleep more than any other gun type.
not really, but you be you.
>good idea
if you are actually going to do that, then yes.
No you fucking idiot boomer turn off the goybox and buy a glock or don't and just die already
>You will carry the underpowerd generic plastic gun and you will be happy.
bit it conformist scum
>added weight and bulk with less capacity and nonexistent StOpPiNg PoWeR is a good tradeoff
My condolences in advance on your fatal naggering
You won't get the penetration for a cns hit with small calibers like .22 on a fucking bear. You need deep penetration and a flat meplat.
Open carry while hiking sure. If you're concealed carrying you'll be struggling. Anything heavy sucks long term. I switched to pocket carrying an lcr and never went back. I'd say it's a home run for hiking, camping, fishing, as a glove box travel gun and for home defense though.
Yeah, you’re gonna have to carry that thing. It’s pounds you can drink or eat.
Go light. Something snubby.
If you can live with 1 less round, the Model 60 isn't a bad choice. Five shots of .357 Magnum out of a 3" barrel and it only weighs 23 oz. Overall, t's not a bad compromise between a full-sized revolver and a lightweight snubby.
it would be good for camping/innawoods. id recommend a .357. you can use .38sp in it too and that's cheaper and easier to practice with. biggest downside is going to be weight, but if that doesnt bother you then go for it.
If you want to be a quirky contrarian homosexual
not really unless you just like them, they're the only thing you can afford & you need it right now, & if they're the only thing you can legally own wherever you are. Semi auto mag fed pistols are better in every way except in high calibers but there isn't really much of a difference between centerfire calibers against people. If you're carrying for bears, maybe look into 10mm or something.
>inb4 muh jams
>inb4 "they'll just run away when i pull it out!"
>inb4 40,000 DGUs & I've never seen X happen
Only if it's a Colt brand Colt Single Action Army chambered in 45 Colt.
Why would you buy a Colt? It's 1800 for a gun that is not even as good as an Italian repro which is a third the price. Seriously, modern Colt SAAs have inconsistent throats, a bunch of end shake, and thinner cylinder walls than the Ubertis. Get yourself three Cattlemen and live out your Ocelot-juggling-guns fantasy.
>Is buying a full size revolver [...] a good idea?
Yeah
I miss this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe
They still import them
Picrel for poorfag python larping
No, get a reliable, high capacity auto loader from a well known and tested company. There are zero times you will rather have the revolver.
its not gonna be fun to carry. id suggest a scandium frame s&w
.357 is the most versatile revolver possible. It's good as a target plinker or polar bear dumper.
>polar bear
everything else aside, revolver mechanisms don't like cold, I'd rather have a semi auto then a revolver in sub zero
>you will carry 10 less shots and you will be happy
bite it contrarian homosexual
the argument that someone trained with bad equipment will be better then someone without a clue with good equipment, while true, ignores that someone trained with good equipment laps both
Revolvers are awesome, but I wouldn't use it for anything serious
>LRN2shoot
.357 has the highest 1 shot kill ratio in handguns.
ehhh, gonna stop you right there. you need to hit the central nervous system to cause a target to instantly go down regardless of caliber. Some adrenaline-filled pavement ape coming for your TV will be alive and chimping for 20-40 seconds even after you put a goldot through his aorta. And in a defense situation that's fucking forever. If you think "big ole boolet" is gonna physically knock them over I have sad news for you.
Why not both?
I have an old doublestack kimber with 14 rds of 45 Anti Colored Person. Grip is barely bigger than a 1911 and not worse than a glock
Revolvers are great for people with phobias, like having a weird hangup about keeping one in the pipe, or being worried about appendix carry. In many ways they are "bad" equipment, but I'm not really comfortable carrying most guns when they're pointed at MY equipment - if you catch my drift. My revolver actually gets carried so for me it is superior to anything else.
Honestly in a human target a .357 magnum is a waste. Just load good .38s for personal protection.
>I'm not really comfortable carrying most guns when they're pointed at MY equipment
DAO wheely boi for ultimate carry. I've taught my kids not to handle guns without supervision, but I'm pretty sure they couldn't pull the trigger if they tried.
Back when I watched cop shows I noticed they usually acted more cautious when going against criminals with revolvers
I wonder if it's because the cops will assume they're more skilled than the usual thugs who mag dump
Either way, revolvers seem to have some amount of psychological effect unless they're snub-nosed and/or being used by women
I can hit holes on holes at 75 feet offhand with my Python and can barely do plate sized groupings with my 9mm in comparison. Revolvers can be scary accurate for what they are and a magnum load is no joking matter to be hit by.
Let's be real here, as long as you get a good holster for it, and practice with it regularly you'll be better off than 99% of the noguns homosexuals that come here trying to convince you yay/nay over minutia. If you like it, get it.
No wheelgun here but I have been eyeballing a 686 for a long time.
Do it kemosabe, it's a solid 6 shooter
>is buying X a good idea
Buying literally ANY gun is a good idea
Out of all the guns i purchased, not once have i thought "this was a mistake", except maybe a cobra 9mm derringer but thats only because i dry fired it so much the hammer busted to shit
it was only $90 anyway so who cares
Camping and home defense absolutely. .357 and .44 mag are both awesome, and a ton of fun to shoot. 4inch is what's considered full size, right? They're heavy, and can be awkward to conceal carry. I think I would take a semi-auto in most concealed cases, but if I can open carry while hiking or the like, I would go with the revolver.
My daily carry for jacket season is a 686+
it was a bitch to carry owb it sags belts like no other but I splurged and got a Galco miami rig for it, nothing beats 21 rounds of .357 just chilling on your shoulders
They don't make AR-15 revolvers so no.
If I could only have one handgun for the rest of my life it would be a gp100 4in. Its big and heavy and you only get 6 shots but you won't panic dump and practice will make you a better shooter overall with a DA/SA revolver.
Handloading or mixing ammo types is no problem, you can dial a hp 357 or 38 snake shot on the trail and you dont have detachable parts like mags that can turn your glock into a single shot. Hell for a protracted shituation if you got a pocket of loose rounds you can hold out a lot longer than having to reload mags to reload your gun.
Likely I'm never gonna kill anything cause avoiding people and dangerous animals will save your ass time and money that could be better spent at the range, where I rival the AR pistol fans in being a loud asshole while looking so much more dignified and actually hitting shit at 15 yes.
>f I could only have one handgun for the rest of my life it would be
A Ruger Redhawk with six pissin hot .45 Colt cartridges.
GP100s are pretty cool.
I'd rather use a Glock 20 if you want a big bore do it all handgun. More capacity and the ability to mount a light is pretty important since you need to see what you're shooting. They also lighter and slimmer than the standard GP100. Though you may lose a lot more hearing compared to smaller cartridges. I'd imagine both .357 magnum and 10mm are the same-ish decibels
Carrying not so much. Heres the thing op: the more you like a firearm, the more likely you will train with it. My first pistol was a colt .357. I dont own revolvers anymore, but you should buy the guns you like. The chance of you getting into some massive shoot out with well-armed, trained and determined advisories is about nil. Do you work in a israeliteelry store? Do you sell lots of dope? Are you about to testify against an organized crime syndicate? Are you a door kicker for a SWAT team? Then dont worry about it. Have fun.
>Do you work in a israeliteelry store? Do you sell lots of dope? Are you about to testify against an organized crime syndicate?
That's what's funny about people concealing small guns. They say the chance of a shootout with someone well armed is next to 0. So is the chance of shooting anyone period. Why prepare for a statistically unlikely event just to prepare for another statistic not to be a part of that equation? I'm more likely to shoot someone that has weapon than someone who's unarmed. So prepare for the worst and carry something half decent. The lcp-max is a good example.
>Why prepare for a statistically unlikely event just to prepare for another statistic not to be a part of that equation?
It's a consequence of different people assessing different conditions in different ways and coming up with different solutions. There's no threat model that's one-size-fits-all, so everyone just makes their own judgements and acts accordingly. It's up to (you) which level of statistically unlikely is best to stop at.
By that logic is it not unreasonable to say "screw handguns" and just carry a rifle with you at all times because statistically pistols suck at stopping people and you may be the first person to be mugged by 20 people at once
>you may be the first person to be mugged by 20 people at once
My buddy was jumped by 10-ish guys in Vegas years ago. He was brutalized. We did jiu-jitsu and Muay Thai together and he didn't even bother fighting back after the first few seconds, he just let them stomp the shit out of him.
Just a bunch of drunk dudes walking down the street. They didn't rob him, didn't know him. He isn't affiliated with some gang and neither were they, almost everyone involved was white. They just decided to jump him for fun.
>going to old Vegas
Don't go to old Vegas everyone, you'll see white people unleash their inner ape. Sorry about your fren anon, hope he learned he needs at least an uzi or 10 other drunk people who blew their kids college funds on 23 red0aa8ev
We live in Vegas and I still never go to down there because it's too congested. Ironically it was actually down Fremont, good job on Vegas jumping white people lore.
>white people lore.
I'll add "roaming packs of belligerent drunks" to my list of reasons I should never go to Vegas
based as fuck. i carry my 454 toklat in the breast pocket of my carhartt. 45 colt for town, 454 for bear.
Backpack gun, fine. I keep a 32 in my workbag.
Idk but I do know that barrel length means better pressure and more accuracy. See why those 12 inch sbrs get crushed by 23 inch at platforms
>and more accuracy
nope
From what I heard you can discharge a revolver even when you've pressed it to the base of someone's skull
Buying a .357 with a full underlug for any reason at all is a good idea unless said pistol was made by Taurus.
Half lug cool too?
Those grips man, I've never seen such nice looking grips on a ruger.
Is buying a full sized steel striker fired 9mm for carry camping and home defense a good ideA?