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Is asbestos that bad?
>if you or a loved one have mesothelioma, you may be entitled to compensation
massively underrated post.
>My name is Doug, and I have Mesothelioma
Not really, you have to be around it for a long time, or have a very improbable exposure event to have any I'll effects.
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Asbestos is a miracle material. It's fire resistant, an electrical insulator, light, strong, flexible and we sell it really cheaply.
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(ziggers are retarded enough to still use this shit widely)
everybody uses it pretty widely there's just safety stuff in place (on paper)
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Asbestos has always seemed to me like God playing a prank on humanity
>How you guys liking that miracle material I gave? Pretty cool right? Well guess what it's poisonous lol
I feel like most materials are like that after the industrial revolution
>green paint pigments
Maybe Uncle Ted really was onto something
>very improbable exposure event
Like huffing it directly from a small canister using a mask to make sure you inhale as much as possible?
>t. 1950s era asbestos salesman
He's right. It's not nerve gas. You have to inhale it in a loose fibrous state. Asbestos shingles=fine. Sanding asbestos shingles=oh shit bro.
Mercury's another one of those things that gets blown out of proportion. Metallic mercury is relatively safe as long as you don't inject yourself with it. The real danger is mercury salts or organic mercury compounds.
>He's right. It's not nerve gas. You have to inhale it in a loose fibrous state.
You mean like how it'd be in a damaged air filter?
>Mercury's another one of those things that gets blown out of proportion
I remember seeing on the local news that one of the middle schools went on a lockdown because I think some kid dropped a small glass of mercury or one of the old fluorescent lights fell in the gym. They sent in hazmat because of the mercury vapors. In the empty gym
Because it can damage certain other metals really badly, mercury is more relevant as contraband in shipyards and manufacturing centers. Just bringing it on the premises of some places is enough to get you fired and possibly investigated for attempted sabotage if it's a military contractor.
>t. Asbestos mitigation consultant
that's simply not true.
there are people who worked with asbestos every day, and it killed their wife because she washed the clothing
No. As long as you don’t fuck with it. See asbestos insulation? Don’t fucking touch it. If it’s in the walls or wrapped around pipes and you don’t disturb it, it’s fine. When you start drilling into it, smacking it with a hammer, or ripping it out and throwing it, that’s when it becomes a problem.
Mostly damaged, frangible asbestos. I don't think PBF gas masks have asbestos filters if that's what you're asking.
>9/11 rescue workers
yeah its bad, but only when its in the air you breathe. if its well contained and disposed of it's no issue.
Anything that contains tiny crystals that are indefinitely chemically stable in normal conditions is dangerous when inhaled, because it tends to stay in your lungs. Try sawing through red brick or glass without a respirator and you'll find out what silicosis and aluminosis are real fast.
do them ceramic wools have similar sharding properties?
Much like lead it’s demonic matter, not even in the schizo babble sense.
its not great
asbestos is perfectly safe as long as its not in the air and disturbed. generally asbestos is only dangerous if inhaled in large quantities over a period of several years, ie bros working in construction or shipbuilding. The meme of GP5 filters being unsafe is simply false. unless the filter is degraded or comprised, you can huff through it all you want and wont get funny cough. granted, with the age and unknown storage conditions of soviet filters who knows.
t. smokes 2 packs a day and will die of lung cancer anyway who cares lmao
In your wall? Harmless unless you fuck with it.
In a gas mask? You or your loved one...
it's perfectly safe if it's left undisturbed
no is fine comrade
in most cases no.
However, when you are directly breathing through it through a filter that is older than you are and has been kicked around as surplus that whole time, yeah that's kinda bad, since the place you really don't want asbestos is your fucking lungs and that's directly where you're gonna be sending it.
On the plus side, it will take longer for asbestos to kill you than the mustard gas would, but nobody is using mustard gas against you.
It killed Warren Zevon
Couldn't be a worse material in existence
Wow I love asbestos now.
Fuck you Van Owen.
>he doesn’t own an asbestos oven mitt for rapidly changing hot machine gun barrels
yes, unless enjoy not being able to breathe at all
>B-but if you don't tou-
The fate of most buildings is demolition which results in a miniaturized dirty bomb explosion of asbestos.
As long as the filter itself isn't damaged it's not bad, most of the time the asbestos also has to pass through the layer of activated charcoal, plus the particulate filter before actually going to the mask and lungs. That being said, unless you know where your filters were and how they were treated, don't trust them
But you don't know that?
The VA gives vetetans compensation just for having a condition linked to asbestos exposure and for having an MOS where there's a "probability" they were exposed to asbestos.
t.Worked for the VA
you must master your fear, before it masters you
It depends on the type of asbestos and other risk factors, like if you smoke.
It's more of an occupational hazard than instant cancer fluff.
Does anyone remember where you could get 3D printed PBF filters?
Counterpoint: It’s not that good.
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