Is a Steel Helmet better than nothing?

I have two Bulgarian steel helmets and a Romanian steel helmet. I wonder if I ever felt the need to wear a helmet like this, would it do better than nothing or simply be a useless weight on my head?

I plan on getting a proper modern ballistic helmet, but question the actual effectiveness of these old steel helmets. I understand they were mostly made to protect from shrapnel, but have also heard that they can stop some pistol rounds and glancing blows from intermediate cartridges. Might plasti-dip one of them for shits and giggles.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >is a lifejacket better than treading water

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why are you gaslighting yourself into thinking you NEED a helmet in leu of buying a modern helmet?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They are useless shelf junk you bring out when youre drinking and nothing else. Somebody's always willing to buy crappy old helmets as an impulse buy without thinking what they will use it for until they eventually throw it in the garbage or sell it on ebay to some other moron

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >sell it on ebay to some other moron
      I am a moron and would like to purchase an m1917 helmet if anybody has one. Will accept a reproduction/replica

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Pal, there are a bunch of companies making repros. They can cost a pretty penny (for what it is), but you can find one in a Google search.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Literally on Amazon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Stops shell fragments and head bonks for 100+ years
      >Magically stops doing so after the invention of kevlar because.....um.....It just does!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Are you going to be in a scenario where you're going to be shelled?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Hopefully not, however most modern helmets only stop shell fragments and head bonks as well. For your average user who can't afford a rifle rated helmet the primary threat is head bonking, a $20 surplus steel pot does that just as well as a kevlar helmet that costs 3-4X as much.

          Yes there is a weight vs cost trade off however they are a perfectly viable option to prevent getting noggin knocked by a nog or accidently head bonking yourself and stylish as well.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You'd be better off with a skateboard or construction helmet.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Correct, with one important exception already noted:
              >getting noggin knocked by a nog

              So if you enjoy riots the steel pot is probably better.

              OPs question was if it was better than nothing, not if there were better options. It is worth noting that for Euros and Americans there is a small but real chance of invasion or civil war in the foreseeable future so there is a statistically significant chance of shell fragments. If you all you have is the $20 why not?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >there is a statistically significant chance of shell fragments
                "No"

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This. I have some kask hard hats that can take some abuse and weigh less than any steel helmet while also being extremely comfy. Simply peel the reflective strips off and rattle can it and you’d have a fairly decent bump helmet that can accept visors, face shields and hearing protection

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But would you rather be wearing that or a steel helmet if someone came at you with a baseball bat?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                In this specific scenario, if it’s my hardhat which is the Kask Zenith X vs a steel pot helmet, I’d take my Kask. Regardless of which you’re wearing though a blast to the head with a bat is probably going to knock you unconscious. Really think about how hard someone might be able swing a bat at your head and tell me you wouldn’t hit the ground just because you’re wearing a helmet. The only saving grace is your skull wouldn’t be bashed in, and that’s only if the attacker decided not to continue his attack after you fell.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              you genuinely are, but you'll look really lame if you cant pull off the look

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >most modern helmets only stop shell fragments
            Modern helmets about 2.5-3 times better at stopping shell fragments then steel junk.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They break your neck when an explosion goes off near you with their invariably bad two point suspensions. a steel helmet does not function as a hard hat either you moronic monkey

        Hopefully not, however most modern helmets only stop shell fragments and head bonks as well. For your average user who can't afford a rifle rated helmet the primary threat is head bonking, a $20 surplus steel pot does that just as well as a kevlar helmet that costs 3-4X as much.

        Yes there is a weight vs cost trade off however they are a perfectly viable option to prevent getting noggin knocked by a nog or accidently head bonking yourself and stylish as well.

        but muh style!!

        Dude a steel helmet was literally just the best peace of mind they could give soldiers until the PASGT came around. They were NEVER designed to protect against anything, there was just a mild chance the bullet would miraculously deflect around the curvature, and that small chance was enough to make soldiers feel like they were better with than without.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >it was jsut for peace of mind
          >pls ignore the actual fricking studies that universally showed that it markedly increases survival rates
          moron.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >hey break your neck when an explosion goes off near you
          love fuddposts

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        shell fragments
        Not really. Steel helmets are very weak vs sheel fragments.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Steel helmets are very weak vs sheel fragments.
          weaker than kevlar helmets, but still able to stop a majority of fragments
          and definitely much more effective at stopping fragments than your skull

          the M1 combat helmet could stop a .45caliber pistol round at the muzzle and 9mm rounds at a distance
          most artillery fragments are smaller than pistol rounds and even if initially faster near the blast their irregular shape means they slow down to well under the velocity of a bullet after only a few meters

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >weaker than kevlar helmets, but still able to stop a majority of fragments
            No.
            V50 for 1 gramm fragment (50% probability of penetration)
            Human skull 150m/s
            SSh-68 250m/s
            PASGT helmet 650m/s

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >No
              Yes

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Still exceeds the bare skull's resistance to penetration, and adds to it. Most importantly frag decreases in velocity drastically over short distances, so a steel helmet could actually realistically be the difference between life and death (and historically it indeed has been).
              Keep in mind that prior to the widespread use of Kevlar, much lower velocities for v50 with that projectile were considered acceptable and to have offered a non-negligible degree of protection.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            to be fair shrapnel is a lot more serious than what most people think fragmentation from the burst shell or from constructions being blown apart is what most people think when they hear shrapnel but shrapnel really refers to whats in a shrapnel shell
            the shrapnel can be hundreds (or in the case with modern weapons, literally several thousands) of little iron or tungsten balls flying through the air with the same velocity as the shell they burst out from
            its more like firing a giant shotgun out of a cannon that goes off about a hundred feet in front of enemies

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              also what i meant to say is that in most ww1 and ww2 cases they were likely referring to this instead of normal fragmentation

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Akshually shrapnel has very weak penetration, and steel helmets are can be some protection against it. Shrapnel is lead balls, a dur to ballistics they have very low velocity.
              Shrapnel shels are detonated far away from target (to let balls spread, also aiming and fuse has large dispersion so you meet to give it large marigine of error, hundreds meters otherwise you are risking that shrapenls shells hiring target area without detonation).
              During trials 1/4 of shrapnel balls were already non effective (ie falling to penetrate 1" pine board, that is considered measure of lethality, projectile penetrating such board can go about 4" I to human flesh and can inflict mortal wound, such quick and dirty lethality measure is used today too, they make mannequins from 3/4" plywood, projectiles penetratiing such mannequin ar considered as wounding/lethal hits).
              So shrapnel balls already barely hang on lethality threshold and weven weak steel armor can stop them. Also thin steel is ok armor vs lead ball (lead pistol bullets).
              But hardened steel fragments from HE explosives shells are completely different matter.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                modern shrapnel shells use tungsten though, and a quarter of several thousand is still atleast a thousand
                and thats just one shell, if you have an entire artillery battery shelling for a full hour (which they very likely will if they're angry enough to shell you once) then you're talking about hundreds of casualties

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >a quarter of several thousand is still atleast a thousand
                Uhm, ACKSUALLY; three thousand is still several thousand and 0.25*3=0.75 so it can be less than a thousand.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Getting hit with 750 tungsten ball bearings is still lethal moron

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Never said it wasn't.
                just wanted to be pedantic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no i meant more like ranges of as little as 6000 to this much

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >if you have an entire artillery battery shelling for a full hour
                You are fricked.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >modern shrapnel shells use tungsten though
                No.
                If you refering to the 120mm M1028 Canister , it canister not shrapnel (difference is sharpnel has time settings, canister just flies out tube like buckshot, it's close combat direct round, not artillery indirect rounds).
                Modern improveed sharpnel are flechette rounds, they use steel darts, due to darts having much better sectional density and ballistic coefficient than ball of the same weight you can make them very light (0.5 gramm) and they still would be lethal. This allowes to pack very much numbers of them into round. (For example Soviet 122mm 3Sh1 packs 7000 flechettes).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i know what canister is, i had this in mind specifically although the size of the balls is closer to birdshot than whats normally in shrapnel shells

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, steel helmets are worse than nothing. During WW1, they noticed that units wearing helmets had more head injuries than those that didn't, so they stopped issuing steel helmets and it solved the problem. From then on militaries stopped wearing helmets until the composite helmet entered widespread use in the 1980s.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >During WW1, they noticed that units wearing helmets had more head injuries than those that didn't
      Hmmm yes. And if they hadn't worn those helmets, they wouldn't have those terrible head injuries. They just be fricking dead

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The helmet makes their heads bigger so rocks and shrapnel that would have missed them hit the edge of the helmet instead, giving them a bruise, concussion, or even a cracked skull. By getting rid of the helmets, they prevented these injuries. This is why they got rid of helmets until composite helmets were invented, which can dampen impacts and prevent injuries instead of causing them like steel helmets.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The helmet makes their heads bigger
          True, having to wear a crash helmet everyday to special ed class certainly made you into a galaxy-brain

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i feel like thats bullshit, if its something that hits the edge its just gonna skate off, what you're talking about is only possible when something hits you square on the head
          i'll take a cracked skull over a suprise lobotomy

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Zoomers will believe this and are too stupid to tell what is fact and fiction. amusing post.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i feel like thats bullshit, if its something that hits the edge its just gonna skate off, what you're talking about is only possible when something hits you square on the head
        i'll take a cracked skull over a suprise lobotomy

        I believe (hope) it was a joke.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it was a sarcastic line from lindybeige or some other youtuber, forgot who specifically, but he said the line with the typical british deadpan, sarcasm without sounding sarcastic
          the joke is harder to convey through text alone

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yea we all know what lindybeige is like

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          how do people like you even solve the captcha

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ja, armor all ze red dots Toomy, zis will save your plane!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that's because most of the ones with no helmet were simply dead

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, it's because the helmets caused head injuries.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      damn i forgot how moronic people on /k/ can be

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      huh, you learn something new every day

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >From then on militaries stopped wearing helmets until the composite helmet entered widespread use in the 1980s.
      Huh? I handed in a steel pot to get new composite helmet.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        see

        it was a sarcastic line from lindybeige or some other youtuber, forgot who specifically, but he said the line with the typical british deadpan, sarcasm without sounding sarcastic
        the joke is harder to convey through text alone

        the original line was a sarcastic jab
        since the joke is that obviously they were so bad no one used them, despite the fact that everyone clearly did

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's good if you anticipate bumping your head against something or getting bashed by someone

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you underestimate how much shrapnel flies through the air in a real war
    they cause like 80% of casualties, bullets in comparison are so little it wouldnt make a major difference to have a specifically bullet proof helmet
    a plate carrier is all you need

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, but you should also be aware that most steel helmets don't have the best bump protection because of liner design and a skate helmet would be better for that. Your Bulgarian M36 and Romanian M73 however are above average in terms of ballistic protection for steel.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God this board can be so moronic, sometimes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's too many ESL tourists visiting from the war nowadays. They can fit in with passable English, but something that takes subtlety (not that this was subtle) or reading the next sentence in a post is just too difficult for them.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Could you line an old steel helmet with a few layers of fiberglass to uparmor it? like how DIY ballistic plates are made?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      would probably be easier to just add more steel to the helmet
      since doron plate, stiffened fiberglass laminate, is only about as good as steel at protection (1/8in thick plate can only barely stop a .45 but with poor BFD, you will get a massive lump and partial feeling loss in the area)
      there were also concerns that the extremely brittle fiberglass could send shards of it into your body if it gets hit, making wounds worse

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's how the indians do it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >"Im redeeming my part"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          that beat up underfolder ak is pure sovl

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know what everyone in this thread is thinking, maybe trying to justify overpaying for kevlar (i have 4 kevlar helmets myself) but a bulgarian helmet will stop handgun rounds and provides quite a bit of protection.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you will never need them

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Webley VMX my beloved

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why does this gay have a bb gun?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It was the klackining, tanks never... hadn't shown up so rifles were unwarranted.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What do you mean? He shot down 15 Su57s and raised the pride flag himself after doing so.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If shit ever truly hits the fan and it becomes an actual urban street fight, you will want to have a helmet. Any helmet.

    And preferrably a shield too.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Even a bike helmet is better than nothing, when stones fly around and 2-by-4's are being swung.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I also have an old steel helmet. I like it but it is better for aesthetics unless you pad the inside. Btw mine holds cheap z87.1 goggles fine.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    moron here, what happened in these pics? Why are these guys testudoing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >what happened in these pics? Why are these guys testudoing?
      they are protestors funded by CIA front groups overthrowing the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014

      it turned out perfectly and Ukraine has been a peaceful and prosperous nation ever since

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These can save you from smaller debris that could concuss you or crack your skull otherwise, rather have a rock drop 10 feet onto a helmet than a bare head

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why not full face helmet like motorcycle helmet? It will be too hard to breathe and you trade that for shrapnel in the face?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Why not full face helmet like motorcycle helmet
      You do know they're just foam, right?

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can they stop some pistol rounds? Yes.
    Can they stop widely used pistol rounds? Probably not.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      See

      I don't know what everyone in this thread is thinking, maybe trying to justify overpaying for kevlar (i have 4 kevlar helmets myself) but a bulgarian helmet will stop handgun rounds and provides quite a bit of protection.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Does this make you feel better than wearing the normal helmet?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          As a light bump helmet they're great, you don't want to get hit with a rock in one but if you're working in close quarters it'll keep you from dinging your head or catching a nail with your scalp.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'd still just take a normal hardhat

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don't mind me, just wearing a normal baseball cap
        (It actually has armor in it bet you couldn't tell huh?)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Putting a good helmet under one of these if you're going to a white Sox or cardinals game could actually save your life.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Can they stop widely used pistol rounds? Probably not.
      One could easily stop a 380ACP or 45ACP. I think the issue comes in with hotter 9mm and 40S&W loads, and at what distance it needs to be at to stop it. Obviously, something like 10mm or 357 Sig will sail through it, but those are less common pistol rounds than 380 or 45.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    not really, they just make it harder to hear and don't protect your grape worth a shit in the 21st century

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they just make it harder to hear
      I've not noticed any issues with hearing or awareness when wearing my polish helmet

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is a Steel Helmet better than nothing?
    of course
    it can offer protection against concussions, minor shrapnel not full on artillery barrages, pistol rounds, skateboard swinging welfare recipients, thrown rocks and bricks

    >have you ever had to wear a helmet for hours on end?
    its not worth it. if I have the choice between wearing a helmet and getting domed by a hunting rifle just go ahead and end it. hard hats suck. motorcycle helmets suck. ballistic helmets suck. they are all awful to wear and no one actually would wear them if they had the choice.
    modern helmets are just for mounting stuff like comms, nods, flashlights, ear pro and so on.its just a mounting platform.

    might as well get a skateboard helmet and velcro what you want to it and you still have 90% of the helmets practical use retained while it being 100% more comfortable to wear.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >motorcycle helmets suck
      Get a better helmet. I could wear my Sedici all day, and have on long trips.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously better than nothing but basically worthless for the majority of modern threats.

    Pretty much any intermediate and up rifle you're going to encounter is most likely going to go right through. PCCs may also pen depending on caliber. The round not penning is undoubtedly more down to luck than anything. Will still protect you from falling stuff and some shrapnel that has already lost a lot of energy though. Also could help if someone tries to hit you in the head with something. If you can make a camo cover for it it'll help you be less visible and help dampen noise from impacts. If you don't care about any value and can get your hands on enough legit kevlar you might be able to make it a bit more effective but I doubt it'll ever be as good as a modern ballistic helmet.

    You'd definitely be better off saving for a legit modern ballistic helmet but at least you've got those until then.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's quite the question anon, reminds me of something, just can't put my finger on it...
    >So what I've got is the two soda jugs on your right, I'm going to engage those with nothing.
    >And then I'll engage the two soda jugs on your left with a 22 rifle and we'll see which is more effective.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's the best helmet for riots, clankening style?
    Bike, motorcycle, steel, hardhat,...?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Buhurt grade
      >immune to knives, clubs, axes, etc
      >bullet proof against pistol fire
      >can kill someone with a headbutt

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >can't see shit
        >can't hear shit

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you can see plenty, that visor slit is massive for a helmet
          for hearing, you could just wear a military headset connected to a mic attached to your collar or something, a lot of them have a jack

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hardhat with visor. Earmuffs optional but recommended.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget the respirator.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        are you genuinely fricking with me or am i a schizo and this isnt the merchant rubbing his hands

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's a solid suggestion, riot helmets are best for riots, you need coverage not the ability to tank small arms fire. Surp riot gear is cheaply available and used forestry helmets like that come up sometimes.

          https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/italian-police-surplus-riot-helmet-with-face-shield-used?a=2258637
          https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/chinese-police-surplus-riot-body-armor-set-6-piece-used?a=2261080

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically if you want something modern, either lookup police riot gear, or get something like the Neosteel that adept makes.(pic rel)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That does look pretty cool

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I miss each country having it's own, recognizable helmet. Today they all more or less look the same, except for the Bong ones and maybe the Frogs

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where can I get a real pagst/ach/ech for cheaper?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Flea markets have pasgts for $20 now and again.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sure, if you don't mind wearing it. It'll protect against shrapnel and other debris just as well as a more modern helmet. You could even just drill some holes in it to mount a NOD plate to trigger the tactigays.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >You could even just drill some holes in it to mount a NOD plate to trigger the tactigays.
      Based

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here's an easy test to see if a steel helmet is better than no helmet. First, wear your helmet, lie down, and have a friend drop a brick on your head. Then, take the helmet off and have him repeat the same action from the same height. Come back and report results.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The (east) german m56 helmet is one of the best steel helmets to protect against ballistics because of its conical shape which can deflect (small caliber) rounds

    For an urban riot scenario (melee weapons) i would pick the ww2 stahlhelm (m35/40/42) because the flared rim protects the sides of your head and neck better, and because it's more compact than the m56 helmet so it doesn't wiggle around alot while making fast head movements or running

    in terms of wearing comfort, i think the m56 stahlhelm was a step back from the ww2 stahlhelm, the ww2 stahlhelm has a more comfortable leather liner system (m31 liner)

    overall the shape of the ww2 stahlhelm is the best, thats why they returned to it when kevlar/aramid became the norm and steel was obsoleted, it also protects well against shrapnel from above

    it's also arguably the best looking helmet shape

    i own around 50 real ww2 german stahlhelm shells (from all 5 manufacturers, and all 3 model types, in different sizes) and i can't get enough of them, while the m56 helmet just looks plain ugly, it was only chosen because post-war east germany wasn't allowed to continue using the ww2 stahlhelm (west german police units/border guard units did use them until the fall of the berlin wall)

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, everyone in every single military since WW1 has been moronic, buy you figured them out anon.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    get an east german m1956 aka the nva stahlhelm. they are mathematically the optimal shape to deflect bullets. theres videos on youtube of them being tested and 556 bouncing off at 50m

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I remember seeing these all the way back in the day, but never got one. I didn't buy helmets till a fire sale at a closing mil surplus store tho

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Helmets without owning NVG's are basically worthless and if you can't afford night vision just ditch helmets completely, it'll only be meaningless weight you don't need to bring
    >FRAG PROTEC-
    If you're up against an enemy with extensive fragmentation based weapons or artillery and you're not in an organized well supplied army as well your best option is getting the frick out of dodge and slipping back into darkness away from them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >hey dont bring protection against the most common battlefield injury

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you're on a battlefield and aren't issued a helmet already then you have much bigger problems. And you shouldn't be finding yourself on a battlefield otherwise anyways.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >If you're on a battlefield and aren't issued a helmet already then you have much bigger problems.
          >but dont do anything about the problems that are within your ability to affect

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you're innawoods with NODs it's still a good idea to wear a bump helmet to avoid bonking your head on a tree branch.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well yeah, NODs are one of the only reasons one should own a bump/ballistic helmet. If you don't own NODs innawoods during the night probably isn't a good idea helmet or not.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a helmet's primary purpose is to stop bonks on your noggin. secondarily, if it can stop bullets, presumably it can also stop all the other less severe bonks.
    but as long as it limits bonk, it's a good helmet. there might be better. but it's still good.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bike/motorcycle helmets for poorgays when needed and ballistic/bump helmets with NODs for everyone else. Milsurp steel helmets are the worse of both worlds assuming you're talking about a SHTF situation

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, the helmet will fragment and cause more damage

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they actually dont, most steel has a bit of give
      so most "used" helmets have big bulges in them rather than fractures, so they obviously stopped some kind of projectile totally with only a headache to show for it
      and even when they do fail, they have clean circular holes rather than ragged ones

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