Is a 10mm practical for CC? If so what's the best one?

Is a 10mm practical for CC? If so what's the best one? If it can kill a grizzly it can probably defend me from a junkie hopped up on every drug known to man.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do you own a loading press? If the answer to that is no, there is functionally no difference for you between 9mm and 10mm.
    Nobody makes 10mm hot loads anymore. You'll have do it yourself. Commercial 10mm is loaded down to .40 S&W spec.
    And if you have a loading press, that gives you access to 9x25 Dillon, which is 10mm necked down to 9mm and even better.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Nobody makes 10mm hot loads anymore
      Get a load of this homosexual

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        $2 per bullet

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          nta but I'm struggling to understand why that is an issue

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you can afford that you can afford to make your own loads

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              it's too bad more reloaders don't offer their expertise for a small or large trade. as long as it saves someone time it will make a profit

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's not meant for the range, anon. You send those $2 bills into the bear charging you.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Cheaper than facial reconstruction

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Solid cast projectile
        I thought OP wanted something good.

        https://i.imgur.com/hSWsU5d.jpeg

        >9x25 Dillon

        This made my pp twitch.

        Did you time travel from 2010?

        It sure fricking feels like it, sometimes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I dumped a hot load in my wife about 11 months ago and now we have a baby

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >9x25 Dillon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Every projectile impacting under ~2200fps does the exact same thing in tissue, below that speed all you're gaining is more penetration. Flesh has an elastic limit which must be exceeded to get tearing at the periphery of the temporary cavity, which is the reason why rifle cartridges are more effective.

        The relationship between speed and terminal effect is not linear, that 400fps gain over 10mm will do little except require you to buy a harder bullet so that it doesn't grenade in the first 5 inches. This is the actual reason why 10mm in the same bullet weights as .40S&W are down-loaded, because pushing the .40 bullets faster makes them perform worse terminally. And buying a harder composition lead wire for 10mm, instead of just sharing with .40, would make the already expensive ammo even more expensive.

        tl;dr boutique speeds require boutique bullets and it's pointless.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Wait, so you're saying a dart and a cannon ball will do the same thing to flesh, so long as both are moving under 2200fps? You are pretty moronic if you think that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Read beyond the first comma ty.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You do not understand ballistics and tissue trauma. You never will.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ackshually, the required velocity decreases with greater diameter of bullet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Did you time travel from 2010?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      utter nonsense.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Commercial 10mm is loaded down to .40 S&W spec.
      Stop parrots this lie

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >there is functionally no difference for you between 9mm and 10mm.
      peak 9mm cope

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah that's true, 9mm is simply superior to 10mm since it kills just as well but is cheaper, more compact, and lower recoil. Thus it's a better performing, objectively better handgun round. 10mm is for those who have to cope and be contrarian I guess. Sad.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Cute

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Lol if you think 10mm would have stopped that guy instantly where 9mm would not. It's all dependent on whether or not you hit the CNS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      FPWP

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is a 10mm practical for CC?
    Yes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He used a 9mm

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not only did he use a 9mm, but it was a subcompact 9mm Glock, the G26, with a 10 round magazine

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >muh bear caliber
    https://www.ammoland.com/2023/11/handgun-defenses-against-bears-170-documented-incidents-98-effective/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Is a 10mm practical for CC?
      Your call. Nearly anything can be CC'd with enough effort, but bigger rounds and bigger guns are obviously inherently harder. There are no full power ultra compact 10mm guns.
      >If it can kill a grizzly
      Everything 380 and up can kill a bear. They're not armor plated you urbanite moron. See

      As always with these shitty caliber war threads ultimately do whatever you want, but make sure it's a gun you actually like, actually carry ALL the time, and will fricking train with. MUH BIG BOOLET does jack fricking shit if
      - You don't have it on you.
      - You maybe shot it a few times after getting it and never again.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The round from his buddy was probably a .300 win mag, lol. But yeah, lets give the credit to the 10mm.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    10mm only scratches the bear necessities

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you want the Glock 29sf and Underwood 220gr

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only real reason to carry a 10mm is so you don't get implicated in a murder if you witness the aftermath of a shooting. Since most shootings are in 9mm, the cops can't pin it on you if the casings don't fit the gun you're carrying.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A pocket 9mm is adequate for a charing grizzly

    >Over the past 33 years, I have lived and guided here on the Alaska peninsula I have never had to kill a bear in defense of life, but this bear was different.
    >We were in thick brush and I was only 8 or 10 feet from the bear when he started growling and huffing. I began yelling and it eventually ran around, behind my two clients, into the brush. But within 15 seconds it came charging back from the area behind us and popped out of the brush 10 feet from me! I had the little S&W in my hands and was thinking I was probably going to have to shoot it but as it cleared the brush it headed toward my clients. The man had enough sense to grab his wife and fall backward into the tall grass.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The bear seemed to lose track of them, even though it was less than 3 feet away from them and it was highly agitated! It then swung toward me, I was 6 or 8 feet away, and I fired the first shot into the area between the head and shoulder. It growled and started wildly thrashing around, still basically on the feet of my clients. My next shot hit it in the shoulder and it began twisting and biting at the hits and I continued firing as fast as I could see vitals. Five shots later it turned into the brush and I hit it again and it twisted and fell 20 feet from us!
      >You are the first person I have told this story to as I haven't decided whether to write it up or not, or where, but thought you should know that your ammo WORKS.We recovered 4 of the bullets and I took a photo of the back of the bear after the hide was removed that shows an entry on one side of the back and the tip of the bullet on the off side...

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Also want to add in the Winchester M1152 9mm, which can be bought right now for 27 cents a round

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    It out preforms some .357 magnum ammo on penetration.
    >Is a 10mm practical for CC?
    It can be, but why bother when 9mm can get this level of performance? And cheaply with the Winchester ammo

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