Is .308 too powerful?

What can it actually do that .243 or .257 can't? (no fuddlore or mall ninjas please)

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >What can it actually do that .243 or .257 can't?
    It can be massively cheaper for one, since it is. You could just as well ask what either of those can do that .223 can't.

    Basically if you're going above .223 at all you probably want to shoot at significantly greater range, shoot something bigger (at greater range), or have some more margin. If you're handloading you can do whatever you want and min/max to your exact use case, but for market stuff distinct buckets usually is favored. 308 isn't ideal but it has a good mix of "good enough". It's enough of a jump over .223 to justify a whole different platform, but not into 33cal territory with much bigger guns and on the go recoil trouble and far more difficulty with semiauto etc. It is pretty easy going on barrels and guns. It's pretty flexible in roles and loadouts. It suppresses pretty well (for a rifle round) too. And finally obviously the economics are there, so we're not starting greenfield, any replacement you propose has to somehow be worth the switching costs. Which it won't be with any current mass produced tech.

    Dunno what you want here OP.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >You could just as well ask what either of those can do that .223 can't.
      in a few states .223 is legally too small for deer hunting. dunno if that's ever enforced. but just like straight wall stuff cartridges do exist solely to meet weird laws.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It has economy of scale going for it. It's much cheaper than those other rounds you described.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Be available. Also the barrel like benefits are real for a high round count training rifle.
    .257 has pretty ass bullet selection.
    .243 with a good twist (6mm creed) can send bullets at a similar BC with a much higher velocity so it's a better competition/long range hunting round.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Turn cover into concealment. .243 just doesn't have the mass to punch through barriers that act as cover to intermediate calibers the same way .308 does.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How is punching through barriers relevant for hunting though? Given OP posted a box of SSTs and all.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        There was no mention of hunting in the OP, just asking if .308 can do anything .243 or .257 can't. And there is.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          He literally posted a box SSTs. And even in a military context, BC and MV are much more important than muh big boolit penetreshaun powah, which is why you see the military actively moving away from .30 cal.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            While asking if there was ANYTHING it can do .243 and .257 can't, not if there was anything hunting related it can do those calibers can't.
            The military is not a good example for uses of an individual combat rifle because the military has access to other means of defeating cover the average individual does not have. If 5.56 is not defeating cover the military can have the guy on the M2 light it up, you (probably) cannot do that.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              He posted a box of SSTs so it‘s pretty self explanatory he was referring to hunting. And .243 and .257 are notorious hunting calibers.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >actively
            This word is overused and triggering my autism.
            Would they be inactively moving away from .30? Idiot.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Frick ya mudda

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Nah frick you Paulie, ya greasy wop.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            .223 to .277 is toward .30 cal.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Be available. Also the barrel like benefits are real for a high round count training rifle.
      .257 has pretty ass bullet selection.
      .243 with a good twist (6mm creed) can send bullets at a similar BC with a much higher velocity so it's a better competition/long range hunting round.

      What about .270 win in comparison to a .243 win? I've been trying to decide behind one or the other.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Completely different class of recoil. .270 is .308 levels of recoil. .243 is around 50% less than .308.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I like 308 recoil but want a 270 with iron sights are you aware of any good ones ?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Sako 85 Bavarian

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's a good round, but the rifle offerings and bullet selection are limited. If you figure out what kind of rifle you want and what you want to do with it picking the chambering will be a bit easier.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if there actually was a tiny little engine in every cartridge and flames were painted down the side like a hot rod

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      > single cylinder 1 stroke internal combustion engine
      I get about 8.5mi/lb minimum for short trips, but longer ones bring better fuel economy. Unfortunately, after every 100 yards or so I have to completely overhaul the engine and replace the head, piston, and spark plug. There is no intake, but plenty of exhaust that makes your ears bleed. The government insists I pay a $200 tax and wait at least 9 months to buy a muffler, so I just rock straight pipes with a performance tip. I have two hot rods. One is built so that the when the engine blows, the head goes flying, the other requires me to loosen just one bolt to manually remove the head.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's cheap. That's it. Mall ninjas will invent all sorts of stupid shit about it just like Boomers did about .30-06, but the only thing either of them ever had going for them was low cost due to being the primary military round. Always remember that military gays and their civilian sycophants (AKA larpers) are removed from reality when it comes to cartridge design. None of them reload, none of the understand ballistics, and none of them will ever accept a cartridge that isn't used by their precious military. The opinion of a military member or a cop are worth less than nothing when it comes to cartridges.

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