Is 308 reliable enough for moose? Which bullet weight can reliably penetrate both lungs?
Would be shooting up to 300 yards
Is 308 reliable enough for moose? Which bullet weight can reliably penetrate both lungs?
Is 308 reliable enough for moose? Which bullet weight can reliably penetrate both lungs?
Would be shooting up to 300 yards
Wait why do you want to penetrate both lungs? Aim for the heart. If you can't hit the heart, go back to the range and train until you can. Their hearts are huge so it's not difficult.
Well can it reach the heart? You have to go through bones and a lung
bro, M80 ball will kill anything with four legs, let alone two. Are the moose in your area equipped with level 4 plates or something?
7.62 NATO was designed to kill humans who are much thinner then a moose along with having smaller bones and softer skin
You underestimate the speed of these bullets, and you overestimate the sturdiness of a moose. All you need to do is shoot at its vitals and it will die. Hell you can even kill a moose with one arrow (though it's usually a slow and nasty ordeal)
7.62 NATO can easily penetrate two humans, if not three. Why wouldn't it kill a moose? You're severely underestimating how powerful bullets are.
You don't shoot a round that explodes the entire animal in one shot. You shoot something that will incapacitate the animal if it hit something vital or creates a wound channel large enough to disrupt it if doesn't.
>lolonly 7.62x51
you fuckers will think atomic bombs are weak in a few years
It can. Just avoid oblique angles. You'd be surprised at what can drop a moose if you have an actual broadside shot at it.
Why don’t hunters go for headshots? The only argument I can see against it would be because you want to preserve the skull as a trophy
I was taught that moose skulls are thick, have tons of angled surfaces and generally a lot of bone. Their horns also give protection at their temples. They also tend to move their head around. Going for the vital organs is always much easier.
Animal brains are very small compared to their lungs and hearts and a good shot to the lungs will kill a deer before they go 50 yards.
Because only a brain or spine hit is lethal, it's a way harder shot, and if you shoot it in the snout, jaw, lower neck etc it isn't a lethal hit.
Also, yes absolutely the trophy. Euro mounts are sweet.
Smaller target, higher chance of maiming the animal.
>The only argument I can see
That's because you are retarded.
You don't aim for the head because it's bony as fuck and the probability of just wounding it or blowing its jaw off is very high. If you aim for the heart, you'll probably at least hit the lungs if you are not completely trash shooter, and that'll be lethal in couple of minutes for the animal. Blowing away its jaw will make it starve to death.
The trick is they do, just not as often, either because of a trophy or because the head is small and mobile. It's still a target though
It will work although, I would choose something a bit larger, make sure you are using a Barnes TSX/TTSX/LRX or Swift A-Frames 200gr+. Using a 308 limits the shots you should be taking a bit because you will want to try and avoid the shoulder instead of punching through.
Came to post this. Although I'd favor a slightly lighter bullet in the .308
It's plenty, and you're (usually) not worried about penetration or bullet weight but shot placement and wound channel size.
Use quality semijacketed rounds rather than hollow points (e.g. sako hammerhead, lapua mega). If you're too cheap for quality, use heavy and slow hollow points. Lower quality semijacketed rounds tend to shed fragments so steer clear of those. In terms of what's a good lead-free round your guess is as good as mine.
Would steel core FMJ 7.62x39 be enough for moose?
If it'll go through a cinder block it will go through a moose
9mm can go through a cinder block. I highly doubt that it’s enough for a moose
>9mm can go through a cinder block. I highly doubt that it’s enough for a moose
And you would be wrong. They really aren't that hard to kill with proper shot placement.
You can kill one with a .22 when you shoot it in the brain, but that doesn't make it a good choice for a broadside shot at 100yds.
That's not relevant. You said 9mm wasn't enough for a moose. I showed you that it is. Moose aren't walking around in body armor.
9 times out of 10, anything that kills humans reliably will kill most land animals reliably.
Boy I sure do love arguing on the basis of technicalities that are not relevant to real life whatsoever, also nta
>Anon claim 9mm isn't enough for moose
>Show video of a moose getting dropped in 2 shots by a 9mm glock
>This is somehow a technicality
The bottom line is that you don't need DEER EXPLODER 300gr .338 Lapua Magnum to drop a moose or even most animals in NA. Fucking Indians hunted buffalo sticks, bows, and the occasional cliff yet you people are questioning if an M14 will do the trick.
Was that a 9mm? I thought the original said it was a 10mm.
It may have been, but in all honesty expecting Magnum rounds, the difference in pistol cartridges above .380 isn't all that great.
You'll get overpenetration. The goal is to get the round to transfer all or most of its kinetic energy to the target, in this case, the moose's vital organs. Heavy, expanding bullets are the way to go.
no you aren't, kid
.243 will reliably take a moose. They're not as tough as you think and they have a giant vitals zone.
.308 is most certainly "enough gun."
>Which bullet weight can reliably penetrate both lungs?
bullet type is more important than weight, any quality hunting round should work
Love these things, get sub inch groups at 100yds with my m1a.
Just wish they weren't so fucking expensive.
150gr ttsx or a 168 bonded. It will work fine.
In Sweden the minimum caliber allowed is the 6.5X55 and it has been used for closing in on a century now. Note that Swedish moose tend to be a bit smaller than the Alska/Canada type though. A .308 should be fine, as long as you pick the right bullet type.
Nosler Partition bullets. Will hold together long enough for penetration, still expand for wound cavity.
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