Interesting ideas for custom amunition, specifically jmj rounds, so bullet tips, various metals and so on

Interesting ideas for custom amunition, specifically jmj rounds, so bullet tips, various metals and so on

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sorry for the error, fmj not jmj

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have no idea what you are talking about, but check these sweet bare tip new manufacturer x54R AP..

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dioxygen Difluoride tipped rounds.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bro doesn't know about the superior chlorine triflouride

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hollow point filled with potassium. upon contact with ttissue it explodes, is corrosive, extremely poisonous (causes cardiac arrest) and causes extreme pain by directly stimulating pain neurons. when you really want to fuck upp your target.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why not step it up to francium?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like it when I don't get radiation poisoning lugging extremely radioactive bullets around all day

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        potassium is cheap and safe when sealed away from moisture.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only a few grams of francium have ever been made, super unstable

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Potassium doesn't explode on contact with tissue.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm interested in ceramic penetrators.
    Cheap, uses common materials, and extremely hard. Can be used either for a core material or as a nose material to different specific effects.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7913786/
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214914717300107
    Stuff seems very promising.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how does it engage in rifling if its not just a nose material with a lead/copper driving band?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It couldn't. It'd destroy your barrel if you tried and probably just break apart in the barrel afterwards.
        In that pic the copper lower still functions as the driving band material.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          would be nice if the whole process could be a single series of casting tools to make it cheap. I see in the ncbi paper they are using ceramic ball bearings as the tip and using a tungsten core for weight

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            tungsten is too expensive i have to buy them for fishing and theyre like $3 for a 3/8 ounce weight

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Tungsten is heavy and hard, so it works well to drive the ceramic ball.
              The problem of course is that its also a pain in the dick to work with on account of being so hard.
              Ideally some kind of replacement could be found. That is reasonably hard, but primarily very heavy but non-toxic.

              Tungsten tig electrode rods aren't super expensive. And pure tungsten rods arent bad to sharpen, you just need an alumina/diamond grinding wheel and itll make short work of it. You're probably thinking of tu gsten carbide, which is a bitch to work with. You can buy 3-5mm tungsten carbide drill blanks rather than alibaba fishing weights for more consistent products.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                TIG welding tungsten is not the right kind of tungsten, I have tried.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Better than steel.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tungsten is heavy and hard, so it works well to drive the ceramic ball.
            The problem of course is that its also a pain in the dick to work with on account of being so hard.
            Ideally some kind of replacement could be found. That is reasonably hard, but primarily very heavy but non-toxic.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There really isn't much out there that is of similar weight to tungsten that is also not even more horrendously expensive.
              Tungsten might just be the easiest choice for the job of a 'hammer' here because everything else that could fill its roll is either super rare, toxic, or a combination of the two.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There was an anon who posted in one of these threads a while back, he had pictures of shooting (iirc) an ar500 target with a 9mm FMJ hollowpoint after he had placed a synthetic diamond in the hollowpoint cavity. There was apretty significant divot/mushrooming crater appearance to where the bullet had struck, in comparison to what a normal jhp would have done. Still not huge, it looked to be about 3mm across, maybe 1-1.5mm deep at the center. But it sparked some interest in what might happen if he were to do the same with some sort of high velocity projectile, e.g. a liberty civil defense schp at 2k+fps. And a discussion of how to forge synthetic ruby projectile cores or penetrator tips at home. If you look at buffmanrange's "obscure 9mm threat" test, DM91 (with an approx 3x12mm penetrator of tungsten carbide) penetrates polyethylene level 3 plates cleanly, even at a relatively low velocity of 1500fps. Would be neat to see a diy'd projectile tested with say a chunk of sparkplug ceramic or a small piece of synthetic ruby placed in front of a hardened steel penetrator in a polymer shell. Thanks for those links, btw.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Assuming you're not lying, he was.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >diy ruby

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thats clever too.
        Synthetic diamonds are cheap and are already in mass production.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >FMJ hollowpoint
        pick one retard

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >diy ruby
        I've made some before, even posted on here about it. eventually trying to get lens quality rubys, but currently they are all amorphous. I want to use it for a gun sight for UV purposes. Never thought about using them specifically for bullets, and If I was to I would go with a THV style outside profile and solid inside.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          smaller one

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/q0Z5fa8.jpg

          smaller one

          and the crucible

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The current plan is to build a machine out of a stick welder and inert chamber that:
            >spins crucible
            >pulls tungsten tip out at a rate of <16.4 thou a minute
            >reaches temperature hot enough to keep the melt molten
            >insulation enough that it doesn't require much power to maintain temps
            Few other things but those are the most important.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Please document well. Always cool to see projects like this.

              >FMJ hollowpoint
              pick one retard

              Being awake 24+hrs will really do a number on a dude. It was a JHP he posted pics of.

              Assuming you're not lying, he was.

              He literally posted pics in that thread. I'm not exaggerating the dimple that whatever he shot had left. Along with the typical lead rings around the impact site from a normal bullet. I'll see if I can dig up a screencap.

              >diy ruby

              Dope

              https://i.imgur.com/knUUJgF.jpg

              >diy ruby
              I've made some before, even posted on here about it. eventually trying to get lens quality rubys, but currently they are all amorphous. I want to use it for a gun sight for UV purposes. Never thought about using them specifically for bullets, and If I was to I would go with a THV style outside profile and solid inside.

              >thv style
              Would still need to add material to increase the mass, and wpuld need something, be it a copper base and driving band or ssome sort of coating to seal the lands ajd grooves of the barrel without stripping the rifling right out of it. Look up the belgian VBR "paralight" round. Capping it with a ceramic tip might be both easier and more in line wjth what the two research papers above showed to be effective.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aluminum would make a great bullet core for all the reasons monolithic copper rounds do well, even moreso.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Something like libra snail with a ceramic/ruby tip.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My best idea is a custom 9x39 round
    Take a 7.62x39 case, enlarge the head to fit a standard 9mm bullet, rebarrel an AK with a 9mm barrel or put a 7.62x39 bolt in a 9mm AR
    ???
    Profit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fit it with a 65grn 7N21 projectile to stay with the russian theme. Otherwise something like swedish m39b 9x19 projectiles are a good starting point. Its a gilding metal jacket with a very thick tip. Perhaps a similar design could be made with aluminum rather than steel, would likely be in the 70gr range, and just as unyielding. Aluminum oxide would be rough on barrels, so it might need to be a thou undersized and poly/powdercoated to seal against the barrel grooves.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Forgot my pic
        >m39b projectile sectioned

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I have 500 or so of those I bought off a Swede.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I.. I don't understand any of what you've said there.
        My idea is just to put normal 9x19 bullets in a 7.62x39 cartridge

        Your idea there probably would work alot better though

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Google what russian 7n21 is then. And what swedish m39b is. They are both 9mm projectiles.

          https://i.imgur.com/OcTw4tx.png

          I'm interested in ceramic penetrators.
          Cheap, uses common materials, and extremely hard. Can be used either for a core material or as a nose material to different specific effects.
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7913786/
          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214914717300107
          Stuff seems very promising.

          Zr02 ceramic ball bearings are pretty cheap. Might see what one does in a libcd schp against polyethylene.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well if you ever do it please post pics and make a thread, I've been talking about loading 9x39 into 7.62 for years now but everyone has always said it's a stupid idea

            The Russian 9x39 isn't the exact same diameter and everything as 9x19, so I think doing what I suggested would be alot easier in America since you can just use normal standard 9mm barrels and standard x39 bolts

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >not just building something in .350legend
              I dig 9x39 but .350 would be way cheaper to do with off the shelf components, barrels, brass, etc.

              Melt silver solder inside hollowpoint, for werewolves.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Would it really be cheaper and easier though?
                Isn't 350 kind of a meme round? There can't be that many barrels and bullets available for it at a reasonable price

                7.62x39 and 9mm are both super common calibers with alot of cheap available components, you could drop a $120 x39 bolt in a $300 9mm AR upper and have it work

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You'd have to get the chamber cut/reamed to fit 7.62/9x39 brass dimensions in addition to buying the upper. Likely peices it above just buying .350 legend brass, barrel/upper.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Snake venom inside a hollowpoint sealed with glue gun.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Melt silver solder inside hollowpoint, for werewolves.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd like to try shoving a 9mm bullet into a 5.56 case. Cut the case down past the bottleneck, reshape it a little if necessary, and make a nice carbine round for use in short barrel ARs or something.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >say it with me
      >350LEGEND
      >50 LEGEND
      >0 LEGEND
      > LEGEND
      >LEGEND
      >EGEND
      >GEND
      >END
      >ND
      >D
      Its basically rimless .357magnum brass.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wasn't aware of this. It's longer and more powerful than what I had in mind though.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i sharpen all my bullets

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2.7mm Kolibri with DU core ammo, belted and loaded into a gatling gun the size of a 10/22 that can be fired from the shoulder.
    Name a flaw. The DU gives it viable penetration and the ammo is so tiny that you could hold several thousand rounds in something smaller than a drum mag.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not enough case capacity. I want a proprietary 2mm bottlenecked mach five cartridge.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A little bigger than 2mm, but I think it'll get the job done

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They make .17 caliber rounds that get to 5kfps way way smaller than that

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has this been fully scrubbed from the net, then?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is this actually true?
      look like a damn meme

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          a link would be oustadingly useful

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https anonfiles com/x0f2K505y3/12c5e3d0-9105-4462-a3ae-e530663485c4_1_pdf
            Don't do anything stupid.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              is the site down?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https bayfiles com/U4o2Kd0cy0/12c5e3d0-9105-4462-a3ae-e530663485c4_1_1_pdf
                Idk. Works for me.
                Don't do anything dumb.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                probably got banned by my country

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thanks, anon. Here's a pepe

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              here is a pixelart pepe I made as thanks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i have a copy but no way to anonymously contribute it

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the fuck

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any way a layman can make his own tracer rounds? Preferably without creating mustard gas or burning his house down in the process?

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Instead of AP relying on kinetic energy, would it be possible to create small caliber HEAT ammunition?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Theres a point of diminishing returns as you decrease diameter.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But has it been tried against body armor? How would ceramic materials react to HEAT compared to steel?

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