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Indonesian's own arms company Pindad is exporting FNCs to the US

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is that shit again?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    very cool, where's the fricking stock

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      go back homosexual

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Importing as pistol allows you to sidestep all the 922R frickery

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i cant be arsed to watch that
    will there be a normal version

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Assault weapons" (read: modern semiauto rifles) are banned from import. You have to import it as a pistol and slap a stock on yourself.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Uh no homie?
        How is every ak and any other rifles with stocks getting imported?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Theres always legal frickery or extra steps like century fricking up ak mag wells or the scar stock

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They have to be imported as sporting rifles that can't take 30 round magazines and can't have a muzzle device or pistol grip and stock and then have to be converted to a regular rifle

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you can import rifles as rifles, you lying b***h.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes but then someone has to unfrick it when it gets here. You would know this if you were alive back when saigas were dime a dozen

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this, there is also 922r, so you have to have mfg set up here to do some tasks and replace some items with US made ones, this is part of the reason why the prices on imported rifles are expensive like the Scar, Bren, and the PTR stg44. By going the "pistol" route it avoids this but you get no stocks

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >does it take a full auto sear?
    >Yo ok thank you, it's very awesome, thank you for the time
    best non answer ever

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think we all know what the answer is and he knows he's not allowed to say it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bare minimum english understanding lol

      i cant be arsed to watch that
      will there be a normal version

      stock is sold separately

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Weren't there more registered FNC sears imported than actual guns? Or was that something different?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Basically a company shat out literal boatloads of them before the MG registry closed. But yes IIRC there's more FNC auto sears than FNCs in the US. If I'm not mistaken though the ATF specifically ruled that those autosears can only be legally used in Belgian made FNCs (I guess to prevent some domestic clone to be made to make use of them), I'd like to see what they'll have to say when these hit the states and the genie is let out of the bottle

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If the sear is the registered part then wtf does it matter what firearm it is inside? God our laws are fricking moronic.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >God our laws are fricking moronic.
            These aren't laws. These are how ATF thinks the laws apply. Just like how they said an Ares Shrike Upper on a registered AR lower is an unregistered MG.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Part of it was when the Scar hit the civilian market. Someone was like "oh hey these fire control groups are really similar." Then asked the ATF if they could use the transferable sears. And ATF, unsurprising, took a very narrow view on it.

          I think it's funny I've seen all these comments under videos on how everyone is going to buy one of these sears and use it so the price is going to spike, etc. but when someone brings up this pre existing ruling they get all butthurt and scream about non compliance like they didn't just finish talking about dripping new car money on a half dollar sized chunk of steel just to illegally install it in a gun.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where's the stock

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      very cool, where's the fricking stock

      because of import laws it's got to be a pistol. but it looks like the provisions are there, so you do that on your own

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AK5 fans be like

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want it...as long as I can put a brace on it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao, it's got a 16 inch barrel

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even better.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No optics mount
    Meh.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://stormwerkz.com/scope-mounts/fn-fnc-scope-mount/
      Not like like most people who want an FNC are going to use it as anything besides a range toy

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ahh yes, southeast asians are always the best plugs. Dont forget about the mac 10 they are making as well

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FNC is a shitty gun jsyk.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Praise Jesus finally. I do wonder if people will make new production FN stocks, or maybe even Ak5 conversions.
      The FNC SMG abomination is interesting, supposedly it's gas operated so that's another alternative to more straight blowback shit no one asked for.

      The AK is an even shittier gun than the FNC and people buy loads of them. If people strictly wanted meta pure performance guns they would only have ARs.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is the stuff coming out of shotshow this year so based?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Last years shot show was just coming off of covid after not happening for a few years so reveals were shit, so they had to make up for it this year.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like what?
      Until I saw this the only based thing was H&R DOE clones

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everything Holosun, PSA JAKL variants, 32 H&R J Frame, Langdon PX4 upgrades, 1301 Gen 2

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cheap FNCs mog all that horseshit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In the YT videos comments someone mentioned this is going to cost $2200. I don't get how a rifle Pindad has been making since 1991 with a SE Asian countries cost of labor would even come remotely close to that price point. I am honestly hoping/guessing these are going to be ~$1000

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              These aren’t gonna be $1,000 that’s cheaper than a PSA jakl

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why wouldn't a 45-year-old design made in Indonesia be cheaper than a new design made in the USA? There's no R&D to recoup on this.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is a gun for collector autists and collector autists can cough up $2k for unique/weird guns. They’re not going to be $1,000 or anywhere near. What incentive do Indogs have to sell these for cheap when other not-AR15s are all $2k+ except for a select few?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What incentive do Indogs have to sell these for cheap when other not-AR15s are all $2k+ except for a select few?
                To undercut everyone else of course.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m honestly hoping they pull a Norinco and do that but I doubt it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are never going to be able to achieve the market share that Norinco did at its peak, but if they are really importing these as pistols, then it's a good sign. 922r bullshit is the main reason most imported rifles are so expensive anyway. I think in one of James' videos about Zastava they said that 922r parts and labor costs contribute to something like half the market price of their AKs. Pindad can circumvent this by importing the FNCs as pistols, and then selling a "922r kit" stateside with a Sneedfeed mag, tube stock, flash hider, etc. that are made in the US. I'm pretty sure CZ did something similar for the Scorpion and Bren 2.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is what you should do. All these greedy boomer homosexuals Corporation-maxxing like they're Apple or something is so tiresome. The real honorable and probably most beneficial in the long run move would be to sell it at a modest profit and have it where everyone owns one. Assuming they're buying them from Indonesia for $300 - $350, and I can't imagine the total import cost is more than like $100 - $150 per rifle, they should sell them for like $800 - $900. But boomers and importers will do the drop shipping method and probably charge $1800 for it or something after it's sold through three difference distributors

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They have to import it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And Cugir can import AKs through Century for less than $1k. What’s your point?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And Cugir can import AKs through Century for less than $1k.
                Not either of these anons but that also includes 922r bullshit. They:
                >have to open the magwell for doublestack mags in the US
                >have to remove the thumbhole stock they're imported with
                >have to replace it with a US made furniture set
                >possibly have to replace the muzzle device and cut the weld (Zastava shows it in the TFB video)
                Century Arms/Cugir does it all for for $660-700 and Zastava around $1k including markup from whatever seller you buy it from. Now it's a new manufacturer for the US market and not an AK like both those examples, but I agree with you; it shouldn't be an expensive gun even after all that, especially if they have a good importer - I hope.

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              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                922r has nothing to do with importation.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To get around the import laws they have to "remanufacture" them on US soil, which means they have to comply with manufacturing laws.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bro they are coming in as pistols bypassing much of the 922r shit. Why do you think Dracos are so cheap?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Importing as pistol allows you to sidestep all the 922R frickery

                The import ban on "non-sporting" rifles is separate from 922r.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                okay, whatever that has to do with the fnc

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why did you insist on comparing an apple to an orange?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are both not-ARs

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And? One was recently developed in a country that has things like labor unions and minimum wages and the other was designed in the 1970's and being built under license for 32 years in a country where the average national salary is $9200. They are not the same.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >32 H&R J Frame
          WHERE

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lipseys exclusive
            https://lipseysguns.com/smith-wesson-ultimate-carry-j-frame/

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based. Finally a cheap FNC. Now I won't have to pay a gorillian dollar for an FN one because boomer homosexuals keep buying them all up for auto-sear hosts.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it hits market somewhere in the $1200 to 1500 range they'll fly off the shelf

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would hope even less. They have been making them since 1991, plus cost of labor in Indonesia is not super high. Finally I just thought of that Pindad might be trying to go the Norinco route in the 1980's-90's. Since this is their first venture into the American market it wouldn't shock me if the government eats some of the cost of these rifles to try and get their name out there.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If MSRP is under $2000 I'll be shocked

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fukko!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The offerings have finally paid off

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sex with assault rifles!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never thought the day would come when a Funco of my own would be within reach

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I miss old /k/

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AR 18 "PISTOL" NOW
    FRICK THE TUBE

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw they will never export these to Europe

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would have assumed parts kit to be plentiful, didn't Belgium just replace it?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Parts kits just aren't a thing in Europe
        Shit either got surplused whole or not at all, and the FNC got the "not at all" treatment

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So they either sell surplus as complete functioning guns or not at all? Sounds brutal.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. Tbf was never a problem before the newest EU directive, because we could have neutered FA guns

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    even better, they're also exporting BM59s

    though honestly kinda worried about the reliability issues
    as service rifles they're known to be unreliable by the troops (SP-1 was known to have fragile bolt, and SS-1s has problem with the firing pin)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like the handguard they use on their modernized FNCs

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that one is actually a development of the SS-2 (the modernized FNC, current service rifle)
        local news says there's a .300 version but it seems like they don't present it there

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you Indonesian? What other possible cool stuff could they bring here?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            not sure, but i was surprised they didn't bring their pistols
            there's G2, P226 lookalike but different
            there's Armo, polymer framed CZ75/Jericho lookalike
            also P1, Hi-Point clone

            pic related, the Pindad Armo

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >also P1, Hi-Point clone
              Is it this? I googled it and it looks kind of cool tbh

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not this one, this is from another company

                here it is

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >that quote
              Damn, good for you Indobros. I wish I can say the same about my country.
              >t. Malaysian

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              frick i mean Hi Power

              https://i.imgur.com/l8Otage.jpg

              >also P1, Hi-Point clone
              Is it this? I googled it and it looks kind of cool tbh

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Is this capable of accepting full auto sears?
          Is this presenter moronic or something? It's like he's trying to get the ATF to ban them before they're even here. I see why he got fired from TFBTV.

          I was thinking about buying a Beretta PMX, but this will probably be much cheaper for something 90% as good just without the railz.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't watch but I imagine he is talking about the DIAS? When they were originally imported they couldn't be easily convertible either, just like MP5's were forced to have the shelf and no second push pin at the time. FNC DIAS is literally just like a bent piece of sheet metal, they made shitloads registered just before 86, which is why FNC's are expensive.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm guessing there's some sort of internal block to keep them from being readily converted to full-auto, or else they wouldn't even be allowed to import them.

              In the YT videos comments someone mentioned this is going to cost $2200. I don't get how a rifle Pindad has been making since 1991 with a SE Asian countries cost of labor would even come remotely close to that price point. I am honestly hoping/guessing these are going to be ~$1000

              Yeah $2200 seems outrageous unless they really think they can milk American gun owners for that much. $1-1.2k seems more realistic.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >SS

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But do they make it in green?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it looks like an AI generated pic

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is this Indo company the next Norinco?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        SEA chads have much more competitive labor rates than the Chinese these days so yes one of them are very likely to be the next incarnation of Norinco/Cheap gun makers

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit. I was glad to see them exporting FNCs when I posted in the M82 mag thread but this is something else. Wonder what other interesting stuff they might be able to export...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WHAT THE FRICK

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      love the stock color

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >922r compliance will probably make it more expensive than a JRA BM59
      tragic

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        922r has nothing to do with importers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don’t rifles like that have different regulations?

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda wish they followed through with their Robocop pistol.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pindad_PS-01

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah ok, when I hear "quality firearms" I don't think some shitty brown asian country. Probably on the same level as Turkshit firearms

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frickin PM12 and FNC? These Indochinks can have all my money

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      don't get too excited yet, they might turn out even worse than turkshit. just ask anyone who ever had the misfortune of using pindad ammo

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This
        Indonesian factories generally seem to assemble things well, but god damn are their raw materials of the absolute lowest possible quality

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pindad is like
        rifles are the absolute shit quality, pistols are really good, ammo are like bubba's pission hot handloads

        soldiers often complain the bolt is somewhat fragile, especially on SP-1 and SS-1, SS-2 seem to have mitigated this issue but it still is plagued with problems

        also i got a friend that had the unfortunate experience of his glock blowing up while shooting with pindad ammo

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wonder when there going to bring this bad boy in

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, the FNC is a pretty underwhelming gun. Unless you're a preban collector autist (me) or a fan of that pedo bait anime, there really isn't a market for these. Also, I'd want to see if Indonesians can actually build a reliable clone before buying.

    Even for plinking, I prefer to take my AR.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you forgot about heat larping

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro I just want something on the US market that isn't an AR-15, AR-18, or AK derivative that doesn't cost a good down payment on a new car.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gun that hasn't been updated since the 1970s is pretty underwhelming
      No shit?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what red dot?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have no idea. It was made by Hensoldt for the AK5 modernization program where it lost to Aimpoint. RTG got a bunch of one off optics from that trial and I managed to snag this one. It was dual illuminated with tritium (long fricking dead) and a fiber light collector around the front lens so it still works in daylight. It's held on with hardware store bolts because that's how it came to RTG from Sweden. As far as I can tell, Hensoldt didn't sell anything equivalent to it, but finding info on old red dots is nigh impossible.

        I'm a genuine swedeaboo, so I was obligated to buy this as I slowly get the parts for an AK5 conversion. One day I'll get all the parts, paint the rifle green, leave my Ikea furnished house and go on a night drive in my Saab while playing Basshunter and ABBA to the nearest pine forest. Then I'll lay on the ground as I look up at the stars and pretend I'm in a viggen flying wave top through the archipelago towards the Russian invasion fleet while the radio transmits "Varje meddelande om att motståndet skall uppges är falskt" on repeat.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's a one off
          FRICK

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm a genuine swedeaboo,
          För fan, why

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Swede living in the states here, while I am a huge ameriboo and hoarding American hardware I'd love to get an ak5 clone.

          How much did that cost you excluding the sight?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think I paid $2,200 for it some years ago. The price on all pre-bans has only gone up since. The last few FNCs to be sold at RIA went for ~$5,500, so that's about what a comparable rifle goes for nowadays.

            The sight was only ~$300 from RTG, but it's a one off with dead illumination, so it's not worth much.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I paid roughly $4k for mine about 5 years ago, but it also came in the original box with a shitload of spare parts.
              Lots of them have been getting posted to gunbroker for $6k-$7k for just the rifle which is crazy to me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that pedo bait anime
      ?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Look up “Upotte”. It’s one of my guilty pleasures, personally.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People have so much AR fatigue I think a lot of people will want to pick them up just because they're a little different, as long as they're a reasonable price. I think the PSA JAKL is the same. As long as the import boomers don't make them $1500

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I get that, I really do. I have more money than I'm comfortable admitting sunk into pre-ban rifles. At the same time though, vanilla being your favorite flavor is perfectly fine.

        There's a reason popular things are popular. I think most people want a not-AR for external, rather than internal reasons. People want to seem unique to strangers online that they will never meet. So they buy something most can't and they take those brief internet bits as fulfillment. It's literally consumerism as a mental compulsion.

        >I'm a genuine swedeaboo,
        För fan, why

        >why?
        I don't know anon. I didn't choose the swedeaboo life, the swedeaboo life chose me. There's a lot worse countries to fanboy over.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There's a reason popular things are popular. I think most people want a not-AR for external, rather than internal reasons. People want to seem unique to strangers online that they will never meet. So they buy something most can't and they take those brief internet bits as fulfillment. It's literally consumerism as a mental compulsion.
          I own an AR and barely ever shoot it though
          I vastly prefer my SLR and K31

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Based K31 enthusiast I love mine wish I had a more ammo though.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >K31
            I have almost been tempted to sell mine because of the ammo shortage

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I just reload

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have all of my GP11 brass because someome mentioned its possible to convert the brass to reload it, is that true?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're Berdan primed so it's a little (a lot) work intensive, but technically possible

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There's a reason popular things are popular. I think most people want a not-AR for external, rather than internal reasons. People want to seem unique to strangers online that they will never meet. So they buy something most can't and they take those brief internet bits as fulfillment. It's literally consumerism as a mental compulsion.

          OR

          I want to spend my money on something that isn't an AR-15 because I already own one. There is a reason there are so many fast food restaurants and not just Taco Bell as depicted in Demolition Man, anon.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ill have you know that scene is stuck in the international pizza hut edit on most streaming serviced andost of the physicals everywhere, including within the US. We live in alternative timelines of demolition man

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look up “Upotte”. It’s one of my guilty pleasures, personally.

      silly anon, it's in TWO "pedo bait" anime not one

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i thought the point of jonah is so you can self-insert as him, not lust after him

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/iewllfK.png

          [...]
          silly anon, it's in TWO "pedo bait" anime not one

          that's why koko is MY wife
          GET YOUR OWN

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People want what they cant have and most realize the stuff they have is better anyway.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't trust an Indog to fry me a plate of noodles.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Shot Show 2075
    >Bangladesh reveals their PSA JAKL clone

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even is it is a $2200 msrp is a good thing to be imported. $22 means probably 18-20 street, and if it takes DIAS it would lower FNC prices an good bit since some boomer will buy one of these with 0 mileage on it instead of thumping on a 40 year old FNC in FA. I bet these will be closer to $1500 after a while.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do it H&R

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Saw a semi-auto Ciener converted Colt Sporter at Cabelas for $3k a while back, was disappointed to see that the carry handle was chopped off and a weaver rail was screwed into the top, but I probably should've picked it up anyways.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There was also one spotted in a small gunshop in PA, it used a colt Hbar as the donor and they wanted 9k for it. not going to lie it was fly as frick

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They already make belt fed uppers so just slap a heavy barrel on one of those.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who they

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fightlite.

          https://fightlite.com/uppers

          Just slap some A2 furniture on it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >7K
            I'd just buy an M249S

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw this
    Oh baby. I've always wanted one, but didn't want to pay the latecomer tax on fuddbroker.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >still no rk95 clone
      Please when will it be our turn

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reposting here.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not sure on the thinking of the hinge mount and hinge stock, maybe it's what they had on hand.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        probably is set up that way to be easier to sbr

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Total SEAmonkey Victory

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait since these are FN FNCs... doesn' that mean that all of the FN FNC auto sears that are in the US are now have a legal platform they can be used in again?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is there a stockpile of them or something?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There are more registered FNC auto sears in the country then FNCs.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, but why?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Some company started shifting them out right after the Hughes amendment was passed. Not long after FNCs where banded from import (by name).

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              thanks

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Like 500 were registered last second before machinegun ban but another person in this thread said they can only be installed into FN manufactured FCNs idk if thats bullshit

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Someone sent a letter to the ATF to see if it was okay to install one in a SCAR. Feds said no, and that they could only be put in Belgium produced FNCs. At least that's what 20-year-long game of telephone says, I've yet to see the original stores. I just sent the ATF a letter for further clarification, I'll make a thread about it when they get back.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Unfortunately the original Uzitalk thread I was able to find where the guy supposedly uploaded pictures of the letter ATF sent him had just a bunch of broken links, so it's hard to say what was said exactly in the letter.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they are licensed by FN to produce them

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will buy one

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will say I'm going to buy one, then balk after I see the ridiculous price.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1899 plus 500 dollars for a proper stock 😉

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does every influgay hold Product like this. Is it for the algo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably becuase they lack a photo booth or somewhere else to take a photo of product™ and the only way they could think to show the firearm in the thumbnail.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pindad is such a weird company. One of my friends went to a small arms convention in south america, and they were on our hitlist of people to talk to. They didn't even show up. The Indonesian embassy people said that Pindad wouldn't even talk to them, although he did get a catalog out of the whole affair. Really strange people. I honestly am stoked they are getting stuff into the US but I really wish it had been us that got to do it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Come to think of it, have they even revealed who’s importing these? There’s no “Pindad USA” as far as I know.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No clue, but I'll do some research. There has got to be a bill of lading somewhere.

        Pindad is a state arms factory, so its kind of odd seeing them trying to venture into the American civilian market to begin with. Last state owned company that I am aware of doing that was Norinco.

        Almost all arms manufacturers outside of the US are at least part state owned, if not entirely state owned. The idea of the private defense company is uniquely an American phenomenon, and when you see it elsewhere its usually also down to the influence of American industry pressures.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Beretta is privately owned. I know you said *almost* but its the first one that came to mind.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pindad is a state arms factory, so its kind of odd seeing them trying to venture into the American civilian market to begin with. Last state owned company that I am aware of doing that was Norinco.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There probably trying to use the US civilian market too soke up surplus capacity between military contracts.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That or Indonesia is projected to be the next 'China' along with Vietnam here over the next decade or so in being the worlds factory.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Daily reminder that these will likely not be able to legally host a registered sear because as the ATF stated during the whole SCAR/FNC sear fiasco the host gun for an FNC sear must also be pre-1986. For some reason they didn't apply this to AR's which is fricking weird but FNC's specifically they seem to have a hate boner for because lolcheapmachinegun
    t. NFA lawgay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly don't care about that aspect of it. FNC auto-sears have exploded in price to the point you'd still be better off going the MAC-Lage route. I am just excited having something coming to hte US market that isn't an AR-15, 18, or an AK pattern gun.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > isn't an AR-15, 18, or an AK pattern gun.
        i've got some bad news for you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a significant enough departure from the AK I'd say it's its thing
          >Verification not required

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Gun has a long stroke gas piston and rotating bolt, therefore its an AK
          >No. There has never ever been another firearm that has used that system before or since

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have a copy of the original letter?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lolcheapmachinegun
      I don't get where this dumb meme keeps coming from. Yeah, there was a brief period where they were kind of not expensive in registered machinegun terms, but that time is long fricking gone. It's still less than an M16, but that's not saying much.

      The people still talking about cheap FNC sears might as well be talking about how they bought that cherry hex receiver mosin for $80.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, for the longest time they were substantially cheaper than M16's.
        You used to be able to get a complete full-auto FNC for like $10k, but about 10 years ago more and more people got interested in machine guns and realized the FNC was a great way to get a cheap full-auto in 5.56 and the prices skyrocketed.
        Now that a bunch of those semi FNC's were being converted using sears, the prices of the semi-autos were also skyrocketing.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    holy shit i'm hyped
    actually my dream gun, I don't care how shitty they are

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same. I'd love to build an AK5.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    According to Wikipedia pindad makes a version chambered in 7.62x45mm

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s an indigenous Indonesian round. Not the Czech 7.62x45. It’s basically a necked up 5.56 with a round nose bullet.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't know that, funny thing is Indonesia has used Czech round historically, even produced it domestically.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    am i the only one who is more interested in the pm12 then the fnc clones?

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Menakjubkan.
    With this most recent achievement, fate has, in a single puff, marked the decline of the west and China and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Indonesian Garuda, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of Chinese powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. The blessings of Indonesian plasma rokok kretek, hypersonic indomie goreng, quantum Ayam Penyet, neutrino soto medan, gamma titanium mono crystal bakso, unmanned autonomous bootleg Upin-Ipin merchandise, magnetized plasma Dangdut and the genuine Restaurant Minang will be the instruments with which Indonesia affirms its noble construction of 21st century South-East Asian politics and offers the Asean a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western and chinese leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateral kobo kaneru.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If the rifle prooves to be of a decent quality this hopefully wont be a meme in regards to China.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not really a relevant rifle these days, not interested. At least give me a battle rifle caliber or a neat compact bullpup. What's the point of something longer and heavier than an AR and only in fricking 5.56?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are everything that is wrong with the firearms industry.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >At least give me a battle rifle caliber
      See

      https://i.imgur.com/Z3FmbOd.jpg

      Wonder when there going to bring this bad boy in

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What's the point of something longer and heavier than an AR and only in fricking 5.56?
      SOVL, you uncultured swine
      Plus, who doesn’t want to reenact the scene from Heat?

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the scene from the movie
    You mean the one where he shoots the gun? Yeah, I can't wait to reenact that one with my Pindad FN FNC.

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