Infantry Tactics And Football Plays

Are things like battle drills and courses of action similar to how football plays and audibles work in football? Like you have a general play that everyone knows, where specific aspects can be modified on the fly via audible, and even have individual players recognize what the other players are doing, see that there is a gap or a thing a player should be doing but isn't, and then precede to do the thing, without anyone telling him to do it? It just seems like from watching videos the way infantry squads and platoons fight, they always seem to have to call out what they're doing and then get approval from someone to do it. There doesn't really seem to be any adaptability. Even with the battle drills themselves, they look like you can't easily branch off and call audibles on the fly or change to something else if the situation calls for it that easily. That just seems like a disaster waiting to happen during combat which looks like just pure chaos.

Would there be things the Army could do to "enhance" battle drills to be more like football plays? Like making subset battle drills that you can choose to do on the fly within a given general battle drill that you can call audible like in the heat of the moment and have other units recognize what you're doing and not have to call up on radio to ask what to do or what you're doing or ask to do something, they can just act via queuing off what others are doing.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP are you asking whether squads have plans and tactics?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Squads have plans and tactics, but the battle drills seem very basic and not flexible at all. They seem to be just a "one size fits all". There's no individual aspect that can be tweaked to them. Other countries seem to have multiple battle drills for similar situations and even develop sub battle drills that can be drag and dropped into larger battle drills given the situation, which is something the US doesn't seem to do.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP, you are a homosexual. You have heard the term battle drill. How many battle drills are there? Google is your friend.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission-type_tactics

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your average soldier and marine isn't going to remember 300 different combat plays and audibles, so you teach them the core elements of what you need them to do, teach them how to follow instructions from superior ranking NCOs and officers, and pray that they will be able to improvise without getting themselves or their teammates killed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're options:
      >frontal assault
      >flank down obvious flanking path the the enemy definitely doesn't know about

      Which way western soldier?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your not as clever as you think you are.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >low IQ basketball American can remember 300 different football plays
      >a soldier can't
      Are you sure?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Are you sure?
        Why would a soldier need to remember 300 football plays when that has absolutely fricking nothing to do with being a soldier?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Battle drills are like templates or automatic reflexes. They are the default everyone knows. Riffing on them uses normal human speech commands. Doing audibles would be a step backwards. Soldiers are not football golems on a daylit flat safespace. If there's something complicated it's going to take more than a hand signal, and if there's extreme stress, nobody's going to remember your secret plan.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think I'm starting to see why the US military can't meet its recruitment goals... they literally don't want you dumb fricks in their Army.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like a big gap is between the immediate action of something like a 2A squad assault or 2 platoon assault, and a full blown deliberate attack mission with hours to days or planning and preparing. There isn't really much room for the hasty attack to the point where it often gets confused with just being a battle drill.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't know
    I'm sending DIA after you. We can't have more people knowing the football-military organization and structure connection.

    OP, do not under any circunstance look up where the word Platoon comes from. A DIA agent will be with you shortly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >word first used in 1547
      I'm pretty sure that predates football anon.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It just seems like from watching videos the way infantry squads and platoons fight, they always seem to have to call out what they're doing and then get approval from someone to do it.

    They do that because they're throwing bullets and explosives around not a fricking leather ball. Some things are automatic reflexes like returning fire, taking cover, etc. But the most important in any military unit is maintaining cohesion, and you can't do that if everybody is doing their own thing.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stupid American pig-dog thinking small unit tactics originate from his bootleg rugby shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      soccer is gay

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the point being made is that by viewing the battle drills as the defacto "this is how things are done" and not viewing them as a template that can be expanded upon can lead you into danger. Take for example maybe an enemy squad begins shooting at you and you decide to break contact. But instead of breaking contact the "official way", you take advantage of the environment and have your first fireteam break left, followed by your second fireteam breaking right; repeating the process until you have your fireteams in good ABF positions against the enemy position in a sort of defensive pincer or L shape. Being able to train so that your guys don't just know the basic template of the battle drills, but can also know changes or "audibles" to them can make a squad and platoon way more flexible and adaptable to any given situation.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a question in regards to infantry combat. How spread out are squads within platoons? I feel like massing even platoon sized units is just asking for an artillery strike. Do infantry platoons kind of fight like in video games like Squad as moronic of a question as that is? Where they're more spread out and squads within a platoon will come to each others aid or assist when needed but for the most part stay apart?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      homie, irl we have two situations.
      Either you are fighting in the modern equivalent of a "colonial war" ie a policing operation against a flavour of dune coons or Black folk or you are fighting a large front atritional war with arty,mines, trenches etc a la the Korean war, Iran-Irak, Russia-Ukraine.
      I the first situation you don't concentrate large units and want your platoon element spread out in case of an IED but also things are really chill.More of a policing work with the threat of terror bombing looming near, gun fights are almost non-existent so squad tactics are not relevant since whatever threatens you will just leg it as soon as you get air on line.

      The second case especially as we see it in the 2020s is much more complicated. The chinks used literally mass meat waves during Korea and so did the Iranians. The units were small(20-22 dudes) due to lack of communication equipment more so than the threat of concentrated enemy fire.
      In Ukraine with the drone innovation you are almost 24/7 under enemy surveillance. So any unit with a few more armoured vehicles becomes a priority for air, drones, artillery etc.
      This is why we see piece-meal attacks with 1-2 vehicles and squads are at most 6-14 dudes sometimes holding an over 4mile long front.
      The range and precision of our weaponry has more than doubled since the 80s and keep in mind we are talking about the poorest most corrupt shitholes in Europe here. A first world country would be able to do much more.
      So to answer your question, the trend is towards smaller units spread on a larger front like in squad, but the gameplay doesn't reflect reality because it would be boring as frick to just sit and dig a ditch and then get blown up by some gay on the other side of the map without getting to fire your gun once for an entire match.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The chinks used literally mass meat waves during Korea
        They would infiltrate and bypass UN forces constantly. Human wave shit only happened out of desperation, that wasn't their m.o.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trench warfare in Ukraine is the result of poor logistics, zero counter battery fire capabilities and neither side capable of capitalizing on any gains made. A US vs. near peer or even just a poor low tech enemy in terrain that isn't Mars would go very differently and would have little to no static defenses as the primary means of fighting.

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