Indomitable human spirit

This really was the deciding factor in lebanon, in afghanistan, in vietnam.
Do you agree?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. And it will be on Ukraine too. The West is a cancer that goes against the very idea of being human and it will be beaten again and again until it falls!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This!

      ITT: vatnigs and pajeets missing the point entirely

      >t potbelly that believe the US can do no wrong

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeh

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vietnam yes
    lebanon yes

    problem with afghanistan is that anyone with the ability to leave left that shithole for riches in the west which is what led to the afghan army and government being filled with people who either agrees with the taliban vision of living like a cave man or doesn't want to fight them because they don't feel like they've got anything to fight for since they live in a shithole.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >this is what amerimutts actually believe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not an argument, retard.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: vatnigs and pajeets missing the point entirely

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes and no. You can break spirits, but it depends in how you do it. Afghanistan issue was that the ANA was incompetent in finishing off the taliban, which lead to them being rebuilt back up after U.S. forces annihilated them. The issue with is just simply setting up a competent government that has influence and legitimacy across the regions. The ANA had every opportunity to expell the taliban off of Afghanistan, but they didn't do it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You can break spirits, but it depends in how you do it.
      Japan was indomitable too until the nukes dropped.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The actual deciding factor in two of those three conflicts was having another country you could run away to, hide inside and operate from within that your opponent wasn't allowed to attack because of muh geopolitics and just wait there until they decide to leave.
    >ISIS/Al Qaeda > Pakistan
    >Vietcong > Laos/Cambodia

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Funny enough, ISIS is using the same tactic of the taliban and run away to Pakistan or get weapons from there. ISIS has been using Pakistan as a hub in their insurgency against the taliban. The taliban has no way of securing their borders.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Afghan-Pakistan war when?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Probably never, but the instability Afghanistan is causing Pakistan to become unstable too. Pakistan is begging the west to give gibs to the taliban because the problems in Afghanistan is starting to become a problem in Pakistan.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I say let Pakistan collapse, then India can invade and forcibly reunify it.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly those are three very different circumstances.
    Indomitable spirit within the general population is certainly incredibly valuable in a defensive war, if that’s what you’re getting at. There are definitely circumstances of that which contributed to victory in all of those wars.

    You can overcome that in COIN through propaganda and actually delivering on your promises. If you immediately and consistently make the lives of the invaded people better, they will eventually come around.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. The victors weren't survivors, they were the next generation funded by outsiders.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The deciding factor in Afghanistan and Vietnam wasn't the strength of the enemies but the abject corruption among the puppet regime leadership. Oh gee, reminds me of Iraq now I think of it. As long as the worst criminal scum possible is given power, you will end up with people being motivated to eradicate them.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Taliban is a bunch of tribal boys and a handful of the old guys who managed to hide in Pakistan or the mountains for 20 years. Unlike the US military there are few Taliban members who are veterans of 5+ years of direct combat.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We thought we could break their spirit with bullets and warfare but didnt realize is that will never work. you break people's spirits with goyslop, pornography, and a constant feed of cheap media. hack their dopamine receptors, make them slaves.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's not even that afghanistan has an "indomitable" spirit, it's that the power structure in afghanistan is extremely decentralized which makes trying to set up a democracy with a centralized government there a fucking nightmare.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    no bump for you

    >muh Vietnam
    Is that all you got?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, it was logistics and arms supply. If it wasn't possible to get arms to the Afghans they wouldn't have won against the USSR or the US. Lots of nations throughout history have been brave and defiant and still got wiped off the face of the earth.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes the mind and warrior spirit are the most valuable weapons, since always.

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  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yep. A people's will to fight for freedom should never be underestimated.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ironically I think relentless goverment corruption, tribal infighting, refusing american anticorruption reforms, and theft did far more to break the americans than the taliban.
    The taliban had less kills on americans/NATO troop then died of random accidents/heart attacks
    Biggest proof is now that the taliban is in charge its just as an ungoverable shitshow by the very same factions fighting where in vietnam they NVA took power and stablized things pretty well. Lebonon also still has a semi funtional central goverment/reistance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lebanon is progressively fragmented/fucked.
      If you wanted to save Lebanon you had to level the gulf states and Iran.
      I now I would. But it's too late, it was late 15 years ago.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ironically I think relentless goverment corruption, tribal infighting, refusing american anticorruption reforms, and theft did far more to break the americans than the taliban.
      This is it. The valuable people left. What's left is the rejects that will possibly give Pakistan the comeuppance for their duplicity.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, high morale is what allowed the Afghans to btfo the Soviets who didn't even know what they were fighting for

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. This is why the indomitable human spirit of Ukrainians wanting to preserve their independence and sovereignty will ultimately triumph against the invading asiatic/russian horde. Slava Ukraini!

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