In under 7 months Russia's military has been proven to be a complete joke.

Has there ever been anything comparable in history, where a nominal superpower's military has, in under a year, been proven to be a complete and utter joke in a conventional war?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, for instance
    >Russia in 1805
    >Russia in 1854
    >Russia in 1905
    >Russia in 1914

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot
      >russia in 1920

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you Anon, slipped my mind.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Tbf, Stalin purposefully sabotaged the 1920 war because he didn't want Trotsky and Tukhachevsky to get a win and he was worried capturing Poland would drag in more European support against the USSR

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It is sometimes hard to discern Russian scheming from Russian idiocy. And I tend to subscribe to a different interpretation. I don't consider what Stalin was doing to be sabotage aimed at Soviet defeat. I think bolsheviks were so certain of victory, that they actually started competing over who gets a larger personal triumph. That's why Stalin was obsessed with capturing Lviv instead of going west to reinforce Tukhachevsky.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          that and all the russian whites who fought for the poles

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >purposefully
          A fient then! lmao Stalin moved troops elsewhere glory chasing, that did not leave him in a better position personally when the campaign imploded. Not even gonna comment on the other dumbfrick theory.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Stalin fricked up by thinking he is smarter and wanting all the glory for himself. All those points you bought up are cope drummed up by soviet propaganda in the Stalin years to justify how Great Leader does not make mistake, no, it was all 36D chess move by big brained mustachio.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot
      >russia in 1920

      Thank you Anon, slipped my mind.

      You can't forget classics such as
      >russia in 1989
      >russia in 1939

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      [...]
      You can't forget classics such as
      >russia in 1989
      >russia in 1939

      Russia, never change, even under new management!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      /thread
      There are 2 and only 2 reasons Russia managed to ever score victories in the period between 1800 and now:
      - Massive amount of disposable Russians to use for human wave attacks.
      - A population so submissive that it would never complain about being used as meat shields and zergs by dangerously low IQ military leaders.
      Despite the infinite amount of Russians they still managed to lose against small nations in the past, because Russians are just that moronic.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You forgot a couple of factors that also played a role in some wars:
        >Russia was at war with a small country
        >Russia was at war with an even bigger failure (e.g. late period Ottomans)
        >Russia was allied with the USA and/or the UK

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        idk about that, zhukov was pretty talented. Sure the russians had massive amounts of manpower to throw at anyone that's coming their way, but that doesn't mean they can't be strategically sound. The current war and the western perception of it is mired in russaboos insisting that they can do no wrong, and westerners making a point to be as vitriolic as possible because it's something to do. We won't have a clear picture of things until a solid decade later.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If you think Zhukov was even remotely talented you are eating up the soviet propaganda image of him. He was at best competent, and that is being generous.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It really blew my mind when I read up on Zhukov's victory over the Japanese in Khalkin Gol and realized that Japan still managed to inflict bigger casualties on the Soviets despite being outnumbered 2:1.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Japan still managed to inflict bigger casualties on the Soviets despite being outnumbered 2:1.
              A beaten down Wehrmacht sometimes did to the same to the Soviets even when they were outnumbered.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot
      >russia in 1920

      [...]
      [...]
      You can't forget classics such as
      >russia in 1989
      >russia in 1939

      >forgetting 1861

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't know about 1995

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Now that's what I call learning from history.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I was just wondering what happened to the Chechen and other mercenaries that russiaboos were bragging about. After the first month no one ever mentions them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I thought the Chechens went home after getting btfo and mercs usually don't take suicide jobs.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I remember them saying Syrians, Afghans, etc. were desperate to be Russian mercs for a chance at Russian citizenship.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The Chechens are not mercs, they are Kadyrov's clan retinue.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Kadyrov actually just said he was sending them back in this week

      The Chechens were supposed to be Russia's " shock units ", lots were in Kiev and Mariupol but they took pretty high casualties

      Russia swapped them out for Wagner boys back in like May

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        those tiktoks are shocking alright

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Chechens were supposed to be Russia's " shock units "
        kadyrovites are part of RosGuards, it's glorified riot control troops with no training, no tanks, no APCs, no heavy equipment of any kind, no mortars, no artillery of any kind, etc.
        they weren't ever used on the front lines except in Mariupol at the end

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >kadyrovites are part of RosGuards
          Terek.
          Also the chechen BTGs also absolutely have armor, the frick? They're not straight up rosgvardia MP companies.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Russians keep joking about Chechens being nothing but e-celebs and "barrier troops" and call Kharkiv "the great breakthrough of Russian troops against Kadyrov's barrier troops".

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >call Kharkiv "the great breakthrough of Russian troops against Kadyrov's barrier troops".
        pretty good bants

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I thought the Chechens went home after getting btfo and mercs usually don't take suicide jobs.

      https://i.imgur.com/sxD9JVL.jpg

      Kadyrov actually just said he was sending them back in this week

      The Chechens were supposed to be Russia's " shock units ", lots were in Kiev and Mariupol but they took pretty high casualties

      Russia swapped them out for Wagner boys back in like May

      Pic is Arestovych talking in an interview. I guess they ended up like all the other russian ""elite"" units (1st guards tank army, 4th guards tank army, wagner group to name a few) that got mauled all to hell in the opening months

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        of course i forget the fricking picture

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It was already proven that Khadyrov never even left Russia.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They got lit the frick up with the other human garbage.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i think a lot of them are used for policing the cities under occupation.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I was promised 20,000 Syrian mercenaries. Been wiener-blocked on that for months. I dedicate this post to my swollen, blue balls.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Spain used to be the world superpower. Then their fleet got destroyed by an English boat on fire, their gold went missing and their tercios proved to be useless against canons.

    France in 39.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      England's counter attack after the Armada debacle was also an embarrassing failure. The battle that is considered to have ended Spanish dominance happened over 100 years later and the Spanish army fought well in that battle.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    china vs the european powers 1700s/1800s and japan 1800s

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does your CO give you a reason why you need to push this narrative? What’s the harm of dummies on PrepHole realizing that Ukraine has no chance of victory or even survival? What are you guys afraid will happen by us knowing the truth?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > I'm scared please stop being mean to Russia
      You aren't fooling anybody

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Do you demean yourself like this on purpose, or is it stated in your contract?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You have something dripping off your chin DS.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >routes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPP
      >kiev was a feint
      >snake island was a feint
      >izyum was a feint
      >kharkiv was a feint
      >lyman was a feint

      >>>YOU ARE HERE

      >donetsk was a feint
      >mariupol was a feint
      >luhansk was a feint
      >melitopol was a feint
      >kherson was a feint
      >crimea was a feint

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    LOL, You should watch how chug is coping about it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Give us a QRD. Not even going to go onto /misc/.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Vatniks screaming Putin is being too nice, and should kill ukrainians more and takes the gloves off, that's why they call it cuckwarfare, they are truly just white Black folk

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If this is Russia holding itself back... then if they did take the gloves off... I wonder how much stuff would remain standing. But the ultimate thing is; why when you're trying to take an entire country are you NOT trying properly? What is he meant to do?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Monkey was expecting ukrainians would rise up against zelensky and welcome russians as liberators. That didn't go well

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I wonder how much stuff would remain standing
            Over the years, you will come to the harsh realization that, the men and equipment Russia sent to Ukraine is all they had. They tried to flatten the entire country, look at Mariupol.
            Hard as they tried, they couldn't. This is the best they ever had to offer, and it wasn't good enough.

            You'll get there, tubby, you might be really dumb but you'll get there.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I wonder how much stuff would remain standing.
            The answer to that is "nothing".

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The funny thing is they would, but they ran out of cruise missiles

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Give us a QRD. Not even going to go onto /misc/.

          Even the majority of poltards laugh at russia tho

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          WHat is cuckwarfare, when they don't just shoot every living thing with a pulse and rape the corpses?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Remember how people postulated at the start of the war that Russia was trying to avoid civilian casualties by not flattening every city? Well, we now know that to not be the case since they've flattened a few they were able to get in range of, but they still believe Russia merely has to stop caring about civilian casualties and they'll magically start winning.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              They leveled the cities where all the Russians lived which makes it ever funnier.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Well, Russians aren't people, so maybe we were right about them trying to limit casualties.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              This isn't a coincidence, they're parroting the same shit they bark on Russian TV. That board is completely under FSB control, has been for years. The same discourse being spammed by botfarm goons all over the internet is happening in "organic" discussion form on /misc/.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >That board is completely under FSB control
                Except it is not, it gets a lot of vatnik and wumao spam yet the chad /uhg/gers are going strong and spilling over into other war related breads.

                Also /k/ommandos are not 100% pure as I once got banned for "racism" while making fun of changs in a china numba wan thread and how they can never take Taiwan with the vatnik model, mentality an geared military they have. Must have been seething a tankie/chang/vatnik janny.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            yeah it's the latest cum/chug/ger cope
            according to them Russia is losing because they haven't been brutal enough
            if they start being brutal, leveling cities, mass killing civilians etc Russia will start winning or so they say

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sack of Babylon by the Hittites
    Song Dynasty when the Mongols came in
    Sacks of Rome by Alaric
    Conquest of the Sassanians by the Muslims
    Conquest of (Byzantine)Syria and the Levant by the Muslims
    I'm sure there's more but those are some of the most spectacular off the top of my head.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Battle of adrianople is way more appropriate than all of those. That was a real case of the enemy (goths) being expected to have their asses handed to them but triumphing spectacularly against an ostensibly stronger foe

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Good point, set the stage for the fall of rome, but the Song, the Sassanians and the Byzantine were whole-ass empires just truckin' along until the towelheads showed and make them look like sick dogs.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Soviet - polish war 1919-1925
    Soviet Finland war 1939 - 1940
    First chechen war 1994-1996
    Russo Japaneese war 1904-1905

    and more

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    "Has there ever been anything comparable in history, where a nominal superpower's military has, in under a year, been proven to be a complete and utter joke in a conventional war?"

    I believe so. I remember reading some absolutely bonkers stories about Chinese dynasty which got some ass-backwards crazy that the they lost to mongolian raiders. And I am not talking about even Genghis Khan here, but some random-ass no-name-recorded nomadic bandits in the desert.

    It was very similar situation than with Russia. Corruption was rampant in the court, the country was rotten to the core, emperor did not have ANY clue how to be a good ruler or have any connection to the lives of ordinary people (him being raised his all life in the palace). And of course the usual court officials being placed as regional governors based solely on how good terms they were with the emperor, and only saw the job as means to enrich themselves and their family.

    So over the years the military was totally negledged (to to point where soldiers had to grow their own food) and officers sold their weapons to make themselves rich etc etc.

    So when the mongols came, the on-paper-mighty Imperial army just evaporated and the mongols raped and looted the land as they pleased. What did the emperor do? came to conclusion that he needs more capapble officials. How you get more capapble officials? By demanding that they know poetry and other noble arts in the entrance exams. This did not have the results he intended.

    Unfortunently, I can't give you any specific dynasties, as I don't remember them. I think it was around the year 1000 or so. Could have been Northern Song (960–1127)?

    Chinese history has plenty of stories like these. Some absolute bum-frick inbred idiot ruling a nation with no fricking clue what he's doing. But you get the idea. Total collapse of a military since the whole country is rotten to the core.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Vietnam war.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > under a year

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The US didn't lose Vietnam until literally 2 yeads after they left historylet.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Americans lost the war, but still won every battle they fought.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    DA RUSDIN MILITARY KEN STEEMROLL THE WEAK US MITARY

    people used to say this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Speaking of which: I haven't seen armatard in a long time. Did he kill himself?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Did he kill himself?
        probably got conscripted

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Think he escaped to Poland and went dark

          Gay. Was really hoping for a roping.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Think he escaped to Poland and went dark

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You wish, the large amount of vatnik posts makes it just harder to identify him on /k/, he probably also spends more time on forums and telegram groups. He or someone imitating him tried to reestablish his threads, but the board currently still is too fast paced for them to survive long, when they are nothing but weak bait and bland threads.

        >Did he kill himself?
        probably got conscripted

        He's living in the american time zone, probably went there with his immigrant parents, he can safely shill Russia in the comfy West without ever fearing to get conscripted by Russia.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    France in 1940 and 1954
    USA in 1972
    China in 1980

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Prussia in 1804 and France in 1870

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone came in here to roast Russia over the times it instantly embarrassed itself, right?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe they should stop being such a clown parade of a nation.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is highly offensive towards downies because even downies would be better at waging war than Russians

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the whole thing is just so embarassing for them. tell everyone you're doing a military training exercise on the border. then get destroyed trying to take the capitol because you think they will welcome you. now there are counter offensives fricking them up. the whole thing is just so unbelievable from the view point of someone who isnt moronic

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how are they a joke when they are winning?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'm one of the tourists that people here always complain about and even I'm not falling for this one.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        not him but you gave him his (you)
        so you did, kinda
        just don't respond next time.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Objectively incorrect

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Subjectively, they are winning the race to the bottom

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How will vatniks keep coping? They’re getting routed on every front both in the battlefield and online.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can we just take a moment to appreciate the fact that armchair copelord came back after being btfo’d and fleeing twitter to only get more horrendously btfo’d within the span of 48 hours and flee twitter once again. I mean it takes a special type of pathetic and stupid loser to speedrun the complete destruction of yourself like that a second time.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    France in 1939-1940?

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