In the movie series 28 days later and 28 weeks later, the army is run over and annihilated by a bunch of unarmed civilians who happen to be very, very angry and determined. If you were at the helm of the British military (1st movie) or the American military (2nd movie), how would you not lose to an angry mob?
>If you were at the helm of the British military
This is the 80s men were skinny and lanky in the UK.
The creatine/roiding up of squaddies in the UK and marines in the US started in the 90s.
Order civilians to shelter in place, anyone on the streets will put their hands up and comply with instructions to ensure they're not infected when ordered or get shot, and introduce the infected to interlocking fields of fire. Worst hit areas, hit them with persistent nerve agents and wait.
>to ensure they're not infected
Don't the people who get infected in the 28 days/weeks later movies turn in like seconds after becoming infected? I don't understand how the infection could have spread so easily if it manifests its symptoms so fucking quickly after infecting someone. Like you can't become infected and hop on a plane across the ocean or something because you're going to turn within 30 seconds of getting bitten or thrown up on.
And I honestly don't understand how the military ALWAYS fails to stop zombies in zombie movies. Like what the fuck. You have fucking tanks and 20 ton IFV's/AFV's. A zombie is never going to break into the hatches of an M1 Abrams and an M1 Abrams is never going to be slowed down no matter how many corpses it gets underneath its treads. So as long as you watch the fuel gauge and pull out when it gets low, you're never going to stop a tank.
I guess the Max Brooks zombies kinda make more sense on why they're so hard to stop because you have to literally 100% destroy the brain to stop them and even if they're just a severed head on the roadside they can still bite you. That Yonkers fight was pretty kino in the book tbh and man they fucked up the movie so badly.
>Don't the people who get infected in the 28 days/weeks later movies turn in like seconds after becoming infected?
Yes, which is why someone not raising their arms when Pvt. Shuckatelli or Spc. Snuffy says stop and raise your arms means they're fucked up and need to get put down like Old Yeller before they can do the rabies sprint into the skirmish line and fuck you up.
> I honestly don't understand how the military ALWAYS fails to stop zombies in zombie movies
If they depicted the military as competent then they don't have a movie. Or at least the movie they want.
Brooks was shit and Yonkers was proof of that. If everyone sees a literal ocean of zombies why isn't command ordering a pull out and orderly retreat before the horde is within arms reach? Didn't fit the big defeat Brooks wanted, so he made the Army stupid. It's lazy writing.
>If everyone sees a literal ocean of zombies why isn't command ordering a pull out and orderly retreat before the horde is within arms reach?
I mean, that was explained in the book. It was complete overconfidence in the high command. Their thought process was, "We're the fucking American military, the most powerful military in the entire world, how the fuck could we possibly lose to a bunch of shambling, unarmed corpses?" "Just deploy all our soldiers with extremely bulky hazmat suits that limit visibility and slows them down and that don't actually provide resistance to bites and expect them to fight for many hours. Surely we'll be fine with just a normal amount of ammunition, how long could it actually take to kill tens of thousands of zombies?" And then they run out of ammo, and find out that artillery and tank cannons can kill a few zombies but that when you have tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of people to kill that that isn't efficient enough.
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already said that. Lesseee .. ummmm, yeah. Found it:
>lazy writing
>I honestly don't understand how the military ALWAYS fails to stop zombies in zombie movies
Shaun of the Dead had them coming in to save the day. But it’s a parody film, so don’t know if you would count it.
Did someone ever made a movies where zombies are not invincible?
The end of Shaun of the dead, the army arrives and kills all the zombies in minutes
night of the living dead takes place over literally just a night
roaming packs of deputies eventually hunt down and burn all the ghouls
the main characters dont make it simply because they are too busy arguing to do anything to survive the night
Romero's depiction of zombies actually seems like the most plausible one, at least in how the event itself occurs. Individual outbreaks don't last long, but there's always a zombie or two still out there somewhere to start another one. The military cleans house, but invariably misses a couple somewhere. There's no "muh pocky lips" autism over it (it's seriously annoying when the cast begins to argue about whether they should just stop procreating and let the human race die or some similarly stupid idea centering around da end tiems because there's a few rotting corpses walking around, as if they won't fucking rot away to nothing in a year), it's just another kind of disaster that keeps popping back up now and again.
>it's just another kind of disaster that keeps popping back up now and again.
This is how it's framed in WWZ too, right? Random places around the world and throughout history have had zombie outbreaks like they've had any other kind of virus or disease. Hell, there's still several cases of Bubonic Plague in california every year. It just so happens that the Big One happened easier because of an interconnected world.
>This is how it's framed in WWZ too, right?
Yep, I think I still have Brook's other book that glosses over historical outbreaks. That's a little dumber though, because he writes as though it's been a thing since the stone age and yet nobody knew about zombies until the events of WWZ occur due to a series of coincidences and write-offs, chalking up these isolated outbreaks to gang violence or historical accounts of outbreaks to ancient superstitions and mythology. Romero's is simpler, a satellite bound for Venus explodes in orbit and the radiation causes the dead to rise for the first time. Since Night of the Living Dead, they're just seen as another natural disaster.
>several cases of Bubonic Plague in california every year
It's thought that the Black Death wasn't actually Bubonic Plague, it was something else. Fleas on rats wouldn't spread the way the Black Death did, it was viral and spread from person to person. Best modern guess is it was a mutation of a common soil-dwelling bacteria.
>the Big One happened easier because of an interconnected world.
Sort of. Europe was just very overcrowded, there was realistically little way to even isolate or quarantine anything given the cramped conditions most people were living in. As far as the first victims went, IIRC the Mongols were sieging some city and chucked a few diseased corpses over the walls, both to get rid of the diseased corpses of their comrades and to fuck up the people inside. The refugees made their way further into Europe, spreading it.
For the spread of disease due to an interconnected world, that was part of the Bronze Age Collapse. The trade networks everyone was reliant on suddenly allowed plagues to spread all over, killing most people in cities. The collapse of the tin trade and the Sea People raids were also factors in the Collapse, but plague greatly aided that process.
1. Animals were non-symptomatic carriers iirc, like the scene where the guy gets infected by the raven
2. That's why it was contained to Britain
I would say nothing and listen, because that's what no one did.
>A horde of unarmed civilians could overwhelm the armed forces eas-
They're a modern European military.
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It depends upon how long the viral agent survives outside of a host. In the film it's shown even minor fluid contact is an instant death sentence. A swapping of saliva, a drop of blood in the eye, and of course in the process of destroying them you're releasing a lot of infected fluid. If this shit survives in water for any duration, a single dead runner in a public water source could put the entire area at risk. If this is some magical sci-fi bullshit where it remains infectious indefinitely, then you'd just have to write-off whole areas or perform extreme-scrutiny deep cleans. Fighting the mob is one thing, beating the infection is another. For how extremely contagious this shit is, setting up layered quarantine perimeters where everyone therein is written off as dead already (sort of how they handled it in the 2nd film) is about as good as it gets. Treat the area like Fukushima and shoot anything that moves. If birds or wildlife are potential vectors, then it's already game-over, because good luck managing to down every crow or deer that wanders through the zone. Some will come out and cause outbreaks elsewhere. It's not their endurance, or speed, or lethality that makes them so bad to fight, it's the danger of fighting them and spreading the disease in the process. I don't see a good way of combatting that forcefully. Maybe the best solution is to use their poor tactical ability to coral them into a central location and burn them out rather than risking fluid spread.