In the event of a nuclear strike, bug out or bug in?

I live very close to a major NATO/NORAD target. My house is brick walled, and I have a standard depth basement, though there is nowhere that is covered in concrete in the basement. Assuming a 20 minute warning time, is it better to hop in my car and drive out of town asap, or is it better to preload my basement and make it as comfy as possible. Alternatively I could seek shelter in the basement of an still used airplane hangar that was built in the 60s and likely with some cold war era shelter uses in mind, though I'm unfamiliar with the hangar's layout and it is closer to the likely ground zero.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also, I have a pretty direct route out of town on sideroads. I live near the outskirts of town here so traffic is unlikely to be a problem, though I've never seen nuclear war traffic so Idk for sure what that would be like.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      just climb on your roof and chill

      Basement, you will survive. There are accounts of people surviving Nagasaki only a couple hundred feet from ground zero

      No need. JIDF scare tactic thread.

      https://satanslibrary.org/666BlackSun/Real_Holocaust.html

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just climb on your roof and chill

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What song to listen to?

      Basement, you will survive. There are accounts of people surviving Nagasaki only a couple hundred feet from ground zero

      Bro the type of missile that would be used to strike the site near my house would have to be on an ICBM so it's probs a lot more powerful than the ones dropped on our Japanese friends back in the 40s. I'd be pretty worried about my chances, especially as there aren't any tall buildings or hills between my place and the logical ground zero.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The End, by The Doors

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Drop some acid and feel the schizophrenia comforting you while the world ends.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            underrated

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What song to listen to?
        Watermelon in Easter Hay, Frank Zappa

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just listened to it, could absolutely imagine sitting in a suntannign chair on my roof, wearing shades and watching a bomb explode in the distance to then be atomized seconds later, while listening to that song.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just listened to it, could absolutely imagine sitting in a suntannign chair on my roof, wearing shades and watching a bomb explode in the distance to then be atomized seconds later, while listening to that song.

          unfathomably based

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What song to listen to?
        Don't Fear the Reaper

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget your on a image-based bulletin board for chinese cartoons anons

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Süsser Tod on 200% volume
          >Beach chair
          >Shirtless and shorts
          >Sunglasses
          >Cocktail in one hand and foldable fan in the other.
          Yeah sounds about right

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >When you attend a funeral
        >It is sad to think that sooner o
        >Later those you love will do the same for you
        >And you may have thought it tragic
        >Not to mention other adjec-
        >Tives, to think of all the weeping they will do
        >But don't you worry
        >No more ashes, no more sackcloth
        >And an armband made of black cloth
        >Will some day never more adorn a sleeve
        >For if the bomb that drops on you
        >Gets your friends and neighbors too
        >There'll be nobody left behind to grieve

        >And we will all go together when we go
        >What a comforting fact that is to know
        >Universal bereavement
        >An inspiring achievement
        >Yes, we all will go together when we go

        >We will all go together when we go
        >All suffuse with an incandescent glow
        >No one will have the endurance
        >To collect on his insurance
        >Lloyds of London will be loaded when they go

        >Oh we will all fry together when we fry
        >We'll be french fried potatoes by and by
        >There will be no more misery
        >When the world is our rotisserie
        >Yes, we will all fry together when we fry

        >Down by the old maelstrom
        >There'll be a storm before the calm

        >And we will all bake together when we bake
        >There'll be nobody present at the wake
        >With complete participation
        >In that grand incineration
        >Nearly three billion hunks of well-done steak

        >Oh we will all char together when we char
        >And let there be no moaning of the bar
        >Just sing out a Te Deum
        >When you see that ICBM
        >And the party will be come-as-you-are

        >Oh we will all burn together when we burn
        >There'll be no need to stand and wait your turn
        >When it's time for the fallout
        >And Saint Peter calls us all out
        >We'll just drop our agendas and adjourn

        >You will all go directly to your respective Valhallas
        >Go directly, do not pass Go, do not collect two hundred dollas

        >And we will all go together when we go
        >Evry Hottenhot an evry Eskimo
        >When the air becomes uranious
        >And we will all go simultaneous
        >Yes we all will go together
        >When we all go together
        >Yes, we all will go together when we go

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Classic.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Basement, you will survive. There are accounts of people surviving Nagasaki only a couple hundred feet from ground zero

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also wait, basement of my house, or of airplane hangar?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They were inside a bank vault

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Drive to the base and hope they have a shelter to let you in?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've played fallout 4, I know that strat doesn't work

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      More likely they'd just shoot you

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bug in for a few days at least to let the initially radiation to pass.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >live less than 40km from a Nato aviation base with nukes
    I'm fucked regardless, so who cares

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 25 miles from NSA headquarters, 20 miles from the Pentagon, and 10-12 miles from Washington DC.

      I'm probably fucked, but maybe I'm just far enough away to be okay.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You should be o.k. for the first hour or so, unless their accuracy is really bad. You need a fallout shelter, though, and some plan to evacuate the area after the fallout threat has ended.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How close is "very close"? Closer than 50/100 miles and youre probably not making it long term. Less than 25 and your probably dead or wishing you were.

    Basement to shelter from the blast, then leave to the most central part of the building, furthest from the outside walls to shelter from radiation.

    Even if you survive the blast, disease and famine will become all you will know for the rest of your being.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I live about 1 mile from an expected ground zero in the event of total nuclear war

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you're one of the lucky ones. minimal suffering

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This. If I die as the result of a nuclear strike, I would hope that I don't even know it. One second man, one microsecond later atoms

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I live about 1 mile from an expected ground zero in the event of total nuclear war

        you're one of the lucky ones. minimal suffering

        >you're one of the lucky ones. minimal suffering

        This. If I die as the result of a nuclear strike, I would hope that I don't even know it. One second man, one microsecond later atoms

        >This. If I die as the result of a nuclear strike, I would hope that I don't even know it. One second man, one microsecond later atoms
        Russian missiles will miss way off, enjoy slowly melting to death

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How close is "very close"? Closer than 50/100 miles and youre probably not making it long term. Less than 25 and your probably dead or wishing you were.
      Utter fucking nonsense for the vast majority of Russia's 800kt warheads.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. Use nukemap, find out the real radius of airburst and surface explosions.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          nukemap explosion radius are vastly exaggerated since they don't take terrain into account

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >nukemap explosion radius are vastly exaggerated since they don't take terrain into account
            I live in the Austrian Alps near Innsbruck with the next NATO base in Germany being about 100 km away, but there's several 3,000 m high mountain ranges blocking everything.
            Since we're formally "neutral" (and thus have no NATO presence in our country) and don't have nukes of our own obviously, I don't think we'll be a direct target for Russia. Maybe they'll hit Vienna out of spite, but that's 600 km away (and fuck the Viennese anyway) and I can't imagine they'll waste a nuke on Innsbruck directly with its 100,000 pop.
            How fucked am I?
            Considering the above I don't think I'll get to experience global thermonuclear war in all its glory firsthand but rather fall victim to the countless post-war problems like starvation, societal breakdown etc. Also I guess while not being killed in a blast directly the problem with mountains is that clouds tend to accumulate on them so I guess we'll suffer more radiation than plain regions in the weeks following the exchange?
            Also IF vatniks decide to nuke Innsbruck I guess I'm fucked as the Inn valley is pretty much a giant funnel which will make the blast wave spread across the whole valley?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Same as most of the planet; your food/water/medicine will have to come from local sources for quite some time.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Better to be safe than sorry.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nonsense, we'd be back to normal in 3.5 years tops

      https://i.imgur.com/bNgP0jp.jpg

      I live very close to a major NATO/NORAD target. My house is brick walled, and I have a standard depth basement, though there is nowhere that is covered in concrete in the basement. Assuming a 20 minute warning time, is it better to hop in my car and drive out of town asap, or is it better to preload my basement and make it as comfy as possible. Alternatively I could seek shelter in the basement of an still used airplane hangar that was built in the 60s and likely with some cold war era shelter uses in mind, though I'm unfamiliar with the hangar's layout and it is closer to the likely ground zero.

      Treat it like a sudden lightning storm/tornado, OP.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >we'd be back to normal in 3.5 years tops

        Yeah fucking right. Well, what do you consider "normal"? Because if you consider right now to be "normal", it would take decades for humanity to regain that. The BIGGEST thing you'd lose would be the power grid. Millions of miles of electrical cables, substations, transformers, nuclear power plants, all of that kind of shit damaged if not destroyed. You'd be back to the stone-age for anything electrical that didn't run on diesel or gas. The water network would also be severely damaged or contaminated, and as cleaning this water requires power, good luck having your piping repaired and your water cleaned automatically. You'd likely be having to boil and purifying your own water for years. Then there's the situation with food and medical supplies. The entire supply chain will shut down literally overnight. Trucks will no longer deliver supplies, factories will no longer be churning those supplies out, & pretty much everything that isn't essential would be left alone and never reopened. Everyones focus would be on survival, and therefore anything not necessary to survival would be eliminated.

        And finally, medicine. If you're on prescriptions, good luck getting refills for them unless you arm yourself with a gun and go down to the local Walgreens and take everything you can. I'm on 7 different types of prescriptions and although I can live without them, my life would be absolutely miserable. It's a tossup on whether or not I'd just blast my brains out with a shotgun or try and actually survive. I'd probably try survival for awhile until things got too much. As I'm physically disabled from a spinal injury and living at home, I'd do everything in my power to help and protect my parents, but once I lost them, which would probably be fairly quickly due to their own medical needs, I probably would follow suit after.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          And bear in mind that the replacement parts for the power stations are NOT kept in an EMP container.
          You'd need to machine the parts to put the power back on so you can machine the parts to put the power back on.
          And how far do you think the fires will get with no fire trucks working?
          How long do you think it'll take for the shops to start getting stocked again when all the roads are blocked with miles of stalled cars and no trucks made later than the 70's working?

          And consider on one side, the crowds deciding it's smash and grab time, and on the other hand, every redneck farmer and holy roller preacher deciding it's time to round up anyone with hair past their ears and have a good old giggity lynching. If you're not in a mob you're pretty much fucked when one side or the other comes knocking on your shelter door.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And consider on one side, the crowds deciding it's smash and grab time, and on the other hand, every redneck farmer and holy roller preacher deciding it's time to round up anyone with hair past their ears and have a good old giggity lynching.
            Incredibly based.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >only one for Idaho
          Based neo I-the-hoe mormon theocracy

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm on 7 different types of prescriptions and although I can live without them, my life would be absolutely miserable
          post tits

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Did you not read the part of my post where I said SPINAL INJURY? 4 of my medications are dedicated to nerve, muscle & general pain relief, 1 is for depression, 1 is a stimulant (Vyvanse), & the last one is Ambien for insomnia.

            I can't lift heavy stuff without risking extreme bouts of muscle spasms & disk slipping that requires a visit to a chiropractor. And either of those can happen from something as small as picking a piece of clothes off the floor, proper form or not. It's miserable. If a nuclear war happens & my city gets hit and I don't die in the initial blast I'm just offing myself. I have no desire to live in my disabled state in a world where I would just be sucking up valuable resources that could go to someone healthier.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          These maps are unironic KGB psyops to demoralize westerners away from supporting a hot war against the USSR. They don't have nearly enough functional warheads or launch vehicles to hit this many targets, if they could even hit 5% of them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is there any evidence that Russian arsenal is not functional?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fat fuck.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're not wrong--except for the map, which has been practically a meme on nu/k/e threads for years.

          It is very possible for things to end up that bad. It's a big question mark, though. How many cities get nuked? How badly do the 3 domestic power grids get hit? How badly does the economy get trashed, and how effective are efforts to re-establish it?

          At a minimum, expect a major recession due to panic. At a maximum, civilization largely collapses. The reality would be somewhere in between. And the devil is very much in the details, making it extremely difficult to predict the effects on anything beyond your local environment in the immediate aftermath of an exchange.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most fallout dicipates within the first couple of days, unless Putin has cobalt bombs stashed away somewhere I think its the economic collapse people should be more worried about in the long run.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Look up the Rule of 7s. After 7x7 hours (2 days) fallout is at 1% of its initial strength. Unless you're in a bunker right next to ground zero, it should be safe to come out for a few minutes a day. However, it won't be safe to *stay* outside until 7x7x7 hours (just over 2 weeks), at which point the fallout should be at 0.1% strength.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bruh, you'd be Liberia. For the foreseeable future.
        One nuke getting through, one modern hydrogen bomb, would be a national disaster. And if it hit a city, even worse. America took a serious punch in the nuts from 9/11, and that was a couple of buildings. Imagine what losing a whole city would do, let alone several.
        Just the political fall out would turn you into fucking Escape From New York/Gattica/Equilibrium levels of state bullshit.
        You're barely holding your shit together NOW, parts of Detroit and New Orleans are already post-apocalyptic.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think it would heavily depend on how many nooks got through and how much of the command and control still exist at the Federal level and the state level. If a majority of Congress still exist along with at least 5 Supreme Court member the President and a majority of the state govenors we as a nation could probably start getting enough assets up and run at least to keep people fed, electricity running and hospitals functioning. Again depending on the nuke type and the amount we will br losing a largr chunk of our populaces which is a both a good and bad thing as we wont have those assets but we wont need to care for those assets also.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >parts of Detroit and New Orleans are already post-apocalyptic.
          My only saving grace. They wouldn’t waste their time targeting the shithole down here

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP just watch this

    everyone is wrong

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah muh nuclear winter would probably last 10 years or so max from the realistic estimations i've seen, and that's only if a full exchange takes place

      The real killer, as has been noted many times, will be the lack of a power grid/breakdown of society ensuing afterwards

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Yeah muh nuclear winter
        Doesn’t exist, and has always been propaganda.
        Your second paragraph is correct.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >boomer hopes his message gets traction with a billboard
      >gives a lecture in hotel with fast food headset
      >sez most people who died in Nagasaki were unfamiliar with the unique effects of a nuclear explosion.
      >REALLY? The first city ever bombed with a nuke, was unfamiliar with the effects of a nuke? How odd.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Known vs unknown. You know where your basement is, you know it's under ground, so unless the big one pops on top of you you'll be shielded from the blast by the dirt surrounding the concrete walls, and if you can seal it up and have provisions for a couple weeks (and a poop bucket I guess lol) you'll make it.

    You get in your car and let's say there isn't any traffic, anything could happen. An 18-wheeler knocked over a power line blocking the road, you get a tire blowout, your car decides that's the exact moment a sensor fails and it goes into limp mode, some drunk retard could hit you, morons, etc. Too many risk factors. If it weren't for the basement I'd bug out, but since you have one I'd bug in

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Standard nbc. Unless you're in the blast zone isolate in the most interior room of the lowest point you can get for at least 48 hours until the most reactive isotopes have reduced. There will still be quite a few radioactive species, but these will be slower decay ones and short term exposure won't significantly harm you. If everyone gets on the road with only 20 minutes to spare you will have virtually zero radioactive protection inside your car and you'll get to just sit in fallout once that bomb bursts because you'll be stuck in traffic. If you have an air purifier, run it. If you have time, cover any window slots to prevent fallout from collecting in any window wells. Sit tight.
    If you're in the blast zone, you can try to flee, but it'll be better to reach the most reinforced structure you can and get inside. Depends on the type of nuke. If it's a cobalt bomb, well, you're fucked. Might as well try to run, but you're super fucked.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Was thinking of moving out of the city and into a more distant suburb in 2020 while interest rates were low
    >Didn't do it
    Disturbing to think that I may end up exploded into a fine mist of atoms just because I didn't want to pack all my shit into cardboard boxes and pay for a truck.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >save money
      >don't have to suffer
      Seems like a good tradeoff

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you're going to die for hohols, be proud

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And you'll be shot by one after your half day of training before being dumped in the front vatmoron

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        cope, I'll be in my dacha

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No you won't, pidor. You're going mobilized, go fight le joo globalhomo in some common grave in Ukraine.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          More like moms basement muttboy

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of target? It matters, because airbursts are different from groundbursts.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If Russia uses tactical nukes in Ukraine just high tail it to the middle of nowhere.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This shit for brains thread is more glavset fearmongering and Russian retard cope.
    God hates Russians, he's even doing the third impact in belgorod right now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      General Headquarters were afraid of this weapon, so they sealed it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The creator of this weapon MUST be a genius!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >This gun of light can eradicate everything, including gods

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      "And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud, and a rainbow was on his head, and his face was as the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire."
      [Apocalypse (Revelation) 10:1]

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't get caught on the road when the fallout starts falling.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Am I going to make it? I live in the East Bay, 30 miles from downtown SF.

    I work from home and have an internal office with plastic sheeting, weather tape, 4 weeks of food and water, a full face respirator and filter, coveralls, pistols, a hunting rifle, a MOLLE 2 backpack, a VHS/UHS radio and a pretty good antenna, a lantern and 4 weeks of slow-burning candles, a full first aid kit, and a full set of campaign gear.

    In the event of a nuke attack, chemical attack, infrastructure (power or electric) attack, or otherwise, I plan to tape myself up in my office and remain in place for 2 weeks, monitoring the VHS/UHS airwaves for information. If I hear anything and there's power at the start of week 3, I'll get my pack, get my guns, put on my respirator, head outside, and just travel east.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      *if I DON'T hear anything and there's NO power at the start of week 3, then I'll grab my bug out bag and head into the world

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hmmmm... This got me thinking for awhile. Would shipping containers work in surviving nuclear blast just like it works in mitigating earthquake damages? Of course I'm assuming you're not in ground zero but well within blast radius.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean it's better than nothing I guess. I'd rather be underground or in a big concrete structure though, especially long term. I guess if you dove inside one to avoid the flash and the shockwave it might save your life, but you're gonna have to immediately find better shelter before the fallout starts coming down in 10-15 minutes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They would be irradiated to shit regardless.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Much worse than a brick house. When fallout comes down you want as many floors above you as possible, and stay away from external walls.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      People buy these shipping containers and then bury them underground and fill with concrete around as a cheap way to make fallout bunkers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then they fill with water and the sides buckle from the pressure of a ton of dirt resting alongside it, because they're not rated for anything more than stacking.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Beta and gamma rays would sail right through. Being underground is a much better option.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gamma only. Aluminum foil stops beta, so a shipping container certainly would.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you're close enough that beta is an issue, the shipping container ain't gonna help much.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The general rule is that if your shelter can stop the blast it can stop the radiation.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The initial ball of plasma is going to be pretty opaque to beta particles.
              If you're getting enough beta for it to be an issue the gamma and the neutron flux are going to kill you anyway.

              Beta protection only really matters for fallout, not for the initial blast.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2022
      >Shipping container meme still isn't dead
      The walls are so thin they can't even be buried under 2 feet of dirt

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hardened target with an airfield on it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oops, meant to reply to

      What kind of target? It matters, because airbursts are different from groundbursts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are there nukes at the airfield (Barksdale/whiteman/Minot), nuclear command aircraft (Tinker/Andrews), or a major STRATCOM installation (Offut)? If so, then yes, you're going to have a bad day. Probably 2-3 groundbursts, so you'll get lots of fallout.

      The primary threat is alpha/beta, which can only hurt you if you ingest them; seal up your basement to make it as airtight as possible, with some way of getting fresh air from upstairs (preferably passing it through a HEPA filter first).

      The next threat is gamma. Most gamma is prompt (generated in the explosion). I've seen wildly-different estimates as to the amount of gamma in fallout; it might or might not be a serious threat. You can build an effective gamma shelter inside your basement. Think of it like a pillow fort, but with lots of weight (mass blocks radiation). You need probably 3' of dirt, primarily overhead, against the basement wall (which is obviously more than 3' of protection). Think of a low shelter, something you crawl into, covered with sandbags or plastic tubs or even cardboard boxes full of packed dirt. You need to stay in there for at least the first 48 hours (might take a bedpan with you). After that, you can come out for a few minutes a day. After two weeks, the danger should be mostly gone in most places; however, I'm not entirely certain when it comes to something so close to a multiple-warhead groundburst. The long-term threat is the same as for everybody else: where are you going to get food, water, medicine, sanitation, etc.?

      If you haven't seen it, here's a primer that I wrote for PrepHole several years ago, based heavily on OPpenheimer's advice.

      https://pastebin.com/cWs6A7rR

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You really don't want to be outside when fallout starts coming down. Bug in for a few days, then clear fallout off of your roof and around your house after that, discarding outer layers that are contaminated. If there's a lot of fallout around you'll get a dose, but the dose goes down dramatically as time goes one. Protection from rads is all about time, distance, and shielding, and the biggest danger to you is ingesting alpha emitters.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Keep canned food, water, and iodine pills in your basement. Keep duct tape on hand and duct tape around all windows and doors before going into basement. Keep plenty of booze to get drunk, because why not? Also keep a few five-gallon buckets filled about a quarter of the way with bleach to shit and piss in. I would stay in the basement for a good week even if the blast didn't damage my house. Might also want one of those hand-windable radios to see if there are any emergency radio broadcasts in the days following the strike. Also keep a gun in case things are really bad after the strike, so you can just have a nice day rather than starve to death or slowly die of radiation sickness, which is a hell unlike any other.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pissing in a bucket of bleach while staying in a semi-sealed room

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Take iodine (regular Lugol will do if you don't have proper pills, 80 drops in a glass of water), bug in for 24 hours with all holes taped shut, then bug out.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I live 15 miles from Duh Capitol high on a hill. I'll have great seat for the end.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh shit wassup that's where i grew up
      yeah we gonna be glass my friend

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're not the only one who will receive the notice, roads will be congested as fuck full of disorganized panicking people. Much better to shelter in place. Close all the windows and try to close up any ventilation you have leading to the basement. Push a table up against a corner in your basement, put all the supplies you can gather underneath it, then pile as much shit on top and to the exposed sides of it as possible. Preferably solid things like books, bricks, or blocks of wood. Radiation does not travel through solid material well. Then just shelter under your table for several days. Oh, and if you have iodine, start taking it as soon as you get the warning. Remember that iodine needs to be taken BEFORE radiation exposure in order to be most effective.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, your first lesson is, don't ask PrepHole for advice, 4chan chased off the last of the oldfags years ago and now it's nothing but Nazis and methheads and Nazi methheads.

    That being said, I think I made the last thread on the subject, and posted the only helpful information.

    [...]

    You're not going to find a great deal out there, most of the serious survivalist forums and sites are more concerned with bringing back either slavery, concentration camps, or both, depending on if they're more into burning crosses or burning people, or both. You know, the kind of lazy "activists" who'd rather wait for WW3 to knock everyone else down to their level before they start LARPing The Turner Diaries or The Iron Dream or whatever.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone you described sounds based and you sound like a tryhard cringe chud. One simple question; is nuclear winter a valid concern?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Probably not, but that's no reason not to have a nice day, you Zoomer Republicunt tweaker Trump-aid slurpin' giggety fuckbucket.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the absolute seethe at being easily identified as a chud
          Kek, too easy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well, no on the seethe and no on the chud, but that's no reason not to have a nice day before you kek yourself.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You know we can read you seethe? It’s right there. HRT has rotted your brain.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, I'm pretty sure the voices in your head are schizophrenia, not actual telepathy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You posted your seethe and we can read it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Iron Dream

      Its The Iron Gates and, yes, it has e-bois, torture, some more e-bois, tortured e-bois and e-boi torturers.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have no idea what The Iron Gates is, and it's not what I meant.
        What kind of loon just assumes they're right without Googling what I typed first? Are you set to Read-Only Memory? Lol, I jest, we all know what kind of loon you are.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How much will PMs be worth in war time? I have about 200oz of silver and 70 oz of gold.

    Sadly I don’t have a gun…

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      sell some gold and buy a gun

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only after civilization mostly returns and people/communities have an excess of at least a few types of basic supplies. Until then bartering with bic lighters or canned food will be the norm.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How much is currency worth when everyone wants food?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >noguns
      Youll be a fun lootbox

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >70 oz of gold.
      Really? You put 100 grand into fucking gold? More than two kilos? Yet at the same time only have about 4 grands worth of silver? You know what I think you have a few ounces of silver maybe a few grams of gold (maybe) and no gun are underage and from some shithole like london.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      utterly worthless. No one will care about shiny things when they're cold, starving and dying of radiation sickness

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would suggest to ignore those that believe in total civilizational collapse. Unless and until humans are quite literally incapable of forming into cohesive groups you will never have to be afraid that there won't be a central authority. Whatever that authority that is will have to have a functioning economy to allow the people to survive and thrive. Precious metals are going to be worth quite a bit as a store of value no matter what, keep them on hand and close.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I heard you should tape all your doors so that the dust can't get in because the radioactive dust is more likely to kill you than the blast.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is it better to hop in my car and drive out of town asap
    You're not gonna make it I can tell you are retarded

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, he’s gonna get a 20min warning and no one else is going to jump in their car, so he’ll have the road to himself. There won’t be a traffic jam.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It depends where you have the supplies and where you live

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's what the US Army would do

    https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.693.4317&rep=rep1&type=pdf

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >20 minute warning time
    Stay at home, millions of people will get that warning at the same time and all roads will be jammed within minutes.
    Unless you want to end up part of pic related it's better to start filling buckets for fire fighting and stay in place.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In your case. Shelter in case. Follow fema guises for protecting your home. Plastic at openings etc. have enough good water in your basement for two weeks shelter and then months of recovery. If you are really close plan to shelter for longer than two weeks.

    I’m at work or I would help more.

    As for bombs. If a hardened target expect two surface detonations in the 250kt range. If soft expect same size but air burst.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You do NOT want to be outside after like 10 minutes following the explosion. Radioactive particles and radiation start moving through the atmosphere after that.
    Ideally, you have a basement well-stocked with food and water, where you can block the airflow from outside with rubble or tape.
    Me, I live in an apartment. So my plan is grab my guns and go bag, haul ass in my car to a building with a basement 5 minutes away, and stay there for like a week (or at the bare minimum, 3 days). Then, layer up with masks and wraps, talk to survivors, drive to a safe area, and try to start my new life.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Prep for staying maybe 2 weeks till the radioactive dust drops to the ground.

    What if the leader of the hangar become nuts? better stay in your zone, prep and armed

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How badly would the nuke damage stuff like pumping stations and water purification plants? If there is still tap water, should you drink it? If there's no tap water, do you go to a river for water? What would be least irradiated? Other than boiling is there anything you to purify it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can drink water that has been exposed to radiation. What you don't want to drink is water that has radioactive material mixed in with it that you could ingest. So if you're in a fallout zone, I'd think any sort of natural water source will be contaminated with radioactive dust. Maybe it would be safe to use a normal filter on it after the standard 2 week waiting period for the fallout to become less harmful? In not sure. Stock up on clean water beforehand. You can even use your stocked water for additional shielding.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      iodine, bleach for biological pollutions, active coal filters for chemical. Or just keep like 2-3 litres of bottled water for each day on hand - thats like 4 1 gallon jugs. Week`s worth of water supply wont even take that much storage space, unless you are living in japanese neet pod. Wont even have to boil it, unless its year old or something and dont have to worry about fallout if the bottles are sealed airtight by the manufacturer.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you assume the water problem will be fixed in 1 week?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pumping stations and purification plants would be fucked. There's also a fair chance that pipes might be damaged or that the loss of pressure would result in sewage/storm water contaminating drinking water. Not to mention fallout.
      Some areas would still have tap water (most likely those areas with gravity-fed systems) but it would likely be unclean and heavily laden with fallout.

      Basically there are four things you need to deal with
      >Fallout
      The water itself won't be irradiated, it's the fallout suspended in it that's the problem and since fallout is essentially just radioactive dust you can get rid of it with any good water filter. Hell, you could probably make one yourself with several layers of clean cloth, coffee filters and a column of sand, I wouldn't risk it though. Just go down to a camping store and buy a backcountry water filter.
      Boiling, chemical treatment, UV treatment (steripen) won't do shit.
      >Bacteria
      Traditionally the main thing you need to worry about when camping or backpacking.
      Can be easily dealt with - filtration, boiling, chemical purification, UV treatment will all do the job.
      >Protozoa (giardia and cryptosporidium)
      Similar to bacteria but they're resistant to most forms of chemical treatment, some work but they may need hours to take effect. Bleach and iodine are both ineffective. Filters, boiling, UV all good.
      >Viruses
      Not normally a problem for campers outside the 3rd world but they would become much more common in a disaster situation.
      Too small for most water filters, they just slip through. Easily treated with boiling, UV treatment or chemical purification. Some companies such as MSR market "water purifiers" which supposedly have fine enough filters to capture viruses but I dunno how effective they are.

      Boiling requires a constant supply of fuel so I'd recommend a water filter (Sawyer Mini is probably the cheapest effective option) + either a steripen or some chemical treatment option.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pumping stations and purification plants would be fucked. There's also a fair chance that pipes might be damaged or that the loss of pressure would result in sewage/storm water contaminating drinking water. Not to mention fallout.
      Some areas would still have tap water (most likely those areas with gravity-fed systems) but it would likely be unclean and heavily laden with fallout.

      Basically there are four things you need to deal with
      >Fallout
      The water itself won't be irradiated, it's the fallout suspended in it that's the problem and since fallout is essentially just radioactive dust you can get rid of it with any good water filter. Hell, you could probably make one yourself with several layers of clean cloth, coffee filters and a column of sand, I wouldn't risk it though. Just go down to a camping store and buy a backcountry water filter.
      Boiling, chemical treatment, UV treatment (steripen) won't do shit.
      >Bacteria
      Traditionally the main thing you need to worry about when camping or backpacking.
      Can be easily dealt with - filtration, boiling, chemical purification, UV treatment will all do the job.
      >Protozoa (giardia and cryptosporidium)
      Similar to bacteria but they're resistant to most forms of chemical treatment, some work but they may need hours to take effect. Bleach and iodine are both ineffective. Filters, boiling, UV all good.
      >Viruses
      Not normally a problem for campers outside the 3rd world but they would become much more common in a disaster situation.
      Too small for most water filters, they just slip through. Easily treated with boiling, UV treatment or chemical purification. Some companies such as MSR market "water purifiers" which supposedly have fine enough filters to capture viruses but I dunno how effective they are.

      Boiling requires a constant supply of fuel so I'd recommend a water filter (Sawyer Mini is probably the cheapest effective option) + either a steripen or some chemical treatment option.

      Oh and if you don't have access to tap water then groundwater (e.g. well water) would be your best bet, it should be protected from fallout. Surface water such as lakes or rivers will all be contaminated, as will rainwater at least for the first few weeks.
      I'd filter everything though, even groundwater.

      You can drink water that has been exposed to radiation. What you don't want to drink is water that has radioactive material mixed in with it that you could ingest. So if you're in a fallout zone, I'd think any sort of natural water source will be contaminated with radioactive dust. Maybe it would be safe to use a normal filter on it after the standard 2 week waiting period for the fallout to become less harmful? In not sure. Stock up on clean water beforehand. You can even use your stocked water for additional shielding.

      Any camping filter that's good enough to get rid of bacteria and protozoa will get rid of fallout, you don't need to wait 2 weeks. The fallout trapped in your water filter would presumably be enough to make it a radiation source though, don't keep it in your pocket or anything.
      Since you want to be staying indoors (and ideally underground) for the first few days to weeks post nooking it's good advice to stock up on clean water anyway. I've got a couple months supply for me, my wife, our pets but even a week or two would be better than nothing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      there is a couple of hours gap time between the end of exchange and fallout depositing on the ground. during that time you're going to want to fill as many containers as you can with clean water, then keep them covered. as long as dust doesn't get into your water it will be safe to drink. remember, you only need to last for 2 weeks from the last blast before it's safe to go outside in normal clothing for an entire day. you're going to be able to go 2 weeks without food no problem (not saying it's going to be fun though), but you're going to start dying of thirst at around 3 days. civil defense guidelines recommend 15 gallons per person, that's probably more than you'll be able to ready if you SHTF and you're not prepared in advance. anything is better than nothing. if you can fill up 1 cooking pot per person and have each person drink it very slowly you'll be able to last 2 weeks.

      man i did not think i would be learning nuclear war survival skills in depth at this time last year.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        to be honest fallout is not the main concern in nuclear warfare. you're much more likely to die from photo-thermal radiation and blast effects like shockwave, fire, and building collapse.

        studies on hiroshima and nagasaki survivors found that the main risk of fallout is from ACUTE radiation poisoning. the japanese were obviously not aware of basic nuclear warfare precautions, so they wandered back to ground zero immediately after the blast to render aid to survivors. these first responders then came into contact with immense amounts of radiation, something like 1,000-500 R/hr. the human body can absorb about 350 R total before 50% of people will contract fatal radiation poisoning. the amount of radiation at ground zero is off the charts at time of explosion, then quickly decays to 100 R/hr after 1 day, then 10R/hr after 2 days. 10R/hr is dangerous, but not deadly if you're only sticking your head out of your shelter to grab food or water or something.

        japanese nuclear bomb survivors had only slightly higher rates of cancer (something like 1,000 cancer cases can be directly attributed to the bombings) and no increase in birth defects due to the way gamete biology works.

        this isn't to say you shouldn't take fallout precautions. you should create a "pillow fort" style shelter for everyone in your party, made out of whatever dense and thick materials you can find, and stay in that for as long as possible. at least 2 days and optimally 2 weeks. but as long as you don't do stupid shit like snort lines of radioactive dust or go outside to shoot tiktoks you're going to make it.

        radiation poisoning has obvious symptoms well before it progresses to fatality. you're going to get a bad sunburn, vomit, headaches, things like that. if you start noticing symptoms that is your indication to spend more time in your shelter. rotate responsibilities in your party so that everyone shares the cumulative radiation dose. and the longer you can wait the better.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. Start filling up your bathtub, sinks, buckets, glasses of water, ANYTHING that can fit water in it you start filling it the fuck up with tap water. Ideally you clean that shit first, but it's better than nothing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      An average American home has plenty of water in the hot water heater and the toilet tanks (not the bowl). You can also drain the pipes to the lowest point and get a few gallons.

      You can use bleach to disinfect water.

      Water can be drawn from lakes if you go out the the middle and pump water from a few yards down. Toxins and trash either float or sink to the bottom.

      https://www.epa.gov/ground-water-and-drinking-water/emergency-disinfection-drinking-water

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Depends entirely on where you live.
      Is it fed through an above-ground lake? Fill up as much as you can right after the initial exchange (won't be irradiated yet), but don't risk it if it's been an hour already. As other anons mentioned, you can get clean water from your toilet tank/boiler.
      If it's an underwater reservoir that gets filtered through rock it's probably safe to drink.
      But then, chances are high the water grid will be damaged with thousands of different leaks so there'll be no pressure in the pipes anyway.
      But as always, nuclear scenarios always assume the best conditions and you won't have those anyway. Either you miss the bunkee, or clean water, or closed ventilation or whatever. You gotta live with what you have. And comparable to dying of thirst drinking potentially unsafe water is preferrable. Just assume everything is contaminated and only make use of it if it is absolutely necessary and there's no other way.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the UK is so tiny that no matter where I go I'll be fucked if push comes the shove

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russia's nukes don't work, and the few that do can be intercepted with NATO's tech developed in the last 40 years. It's not the 1980s anymore, NATO can realistically WIN a nuclear war now that Russia has been exposed as a weak fraud. A couple million Eurocucks would die in Ukraine, Germany and Poland but mainland America is pretty much untouchable by shitty vatnik cold war tech.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In. Dragging my kids around a hellscape will be far more dangerous than waiting in a basement with canned food and potassium iodide.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know the feel. I live 15 minutes down the highway from leaf parliament. My only consolation is that I unironically feel like they might not even bother trying to hit us.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So alot of people are talking in this thread about what to do if the bombs do fly and strike every major population center and military base in the country.... the real question I have is what do you guys think DARPA and private companies in the US MIC have under their coat to intercept and stop Russian SS25s from making it to their targets? You guys think there is some Star Wars tier interception vehicles secretly ready to intercept MIRVs? Maybe lazer complexes or upgraded Aegis with Iron Dome or Patriot Missile Batteries? Or do you think we have made fuck all for progress in that department and we are all kinda luck of the draw fucked waiting to see what nukes were maintained and what nukes were sold for scrap by the monke and his zigger followers? God I fucking miss Oppenheimer, fuck all the gays that bullied him off of PrepHole.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what to do if the bombs do fly and strike every major population center and military base
      They won't. Most of Russia's active warheads would be needed for counterforce strikes on missile silos and nuclear bases. Flattening random cities and barracks would burn through warheads with no real value.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is the argument that they are hitting population centers where manufacturing and brainpower exist or do you think they dont have enough Nukes to hit Nato and American military targets AND major population centers?

        >Or do you think we have made fuck all for progress in that department and we are all kinda luck of the draw fucked waiting to see what nukes were maintained and what nukes were sold for scrap by the monke and his zigger followers?
        Fuck all for sure. Nukes have been seen as such an unlikely threat for so long that I have zero doubt that any related research programs wouldn't fallen prey to crippling levels of graft, funding cutbacks ('peace dividends') and diversity initiatives.

        You dont think even tangential reaearch has been done for intercept vehicles? Fuck I guess we just have to hope the fetal alcohol syndrome retards sold off or poorly maintained their Nook core.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Or do you think we have made fuck all for progress in that department and we are all kinda luck of the draw fucked waiting to see what nukes were maintained and what nukes were sold for scrap by the monke and his zigger followers?
      Fuck all for sure. Nukes have been seen as such an unlikely threat for so long that I have zero doubt that any related research programs wouldn't fallen prey to crippling levels of graft, funding cutbacks ('peace dividends') and diversity initiatives.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just going to go out and chil and watch the nukes drop, not like i’ll survive in my commieblock so why bother. might at least watch the fireworks

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Basement, and block all windows.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russian nukes aren't real yall. They sold them all to China to buy yachts with. That entire meme of a country is held together by glue and popsicle sticks. Russians are retarded, the Orks from Warhammer are based on them. Wagggh

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good chance you wouldn't get hit even if Russia fires all of its (still functioning) nooks. There are simply too many targets in both the US and Europe, and the capability to intercept missiles does exist, but it wouldn't be 100% obviously. US nook silos in the north Midwest are already good bait targets, and those would probably require multiple warheads to disable.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    June 2, 2008 – Christopher Ketcham – The Scott Horton Show – Episode 548
    >Freelance reporter Christopher Ketcham, author of a new piece called "The Last Roundup" for Radar magazine, discusses the "Continuity Of Government" (COG) plan to keep government operating after a national emergency such as a nuclear strike, effectively suspending the Constitution and turning the country into a fascist military dictatorship, the history of COG going back to the Cold War and it's partial implementation after 9/11, DHS's "Main Core" and other databases and lists of dissidents kept ready by the government, the measures in place for total police state after the next crisis, the pending collapse of America resulting from the suicide-pact with the military industrial complex

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
    >Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a classified scenario and drill developed by the United States federal government to detain large numbers of United States citizens deemed to be "national security threats" in the event that the president declared a National Emergency. The plan was first revealed in detail in a major daily newspaper by reporter Alfonso Chardy in the July 5, 1987 edition of the Miami Herald. Possible reasons for such a roundup were reported to be widespread opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad, such as if the United States were to directly invade Central America.[1][2][3] To combat what the government perceived as "subversive activities", the plan also authorized the military to direct ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Core
    >Main Core is an alleged American government database containing information on those believed to be threats to national security.[1]
    picrel:
    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnx0aGVsb25nY291bnRlbWF0cml4fGd4OjIwZGJhMTRmZWU0YTMzZGM

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I live 4.5 miles from a italian airforce base, no NATO. Should i go on a vacation to australia/argentina if war starts?
    Nuke maps with a 500kt bomb say im in the middle of the thermal radiation radius, but out of the main blast radius.
    Its just a little heat isnt it? Whats the survival rate for it.
    The fallout looks irrelevant, i got a 3 stories concrete house with heavy metal shutters on the windows

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Search around for a deep underground military base in your area. They will have them. Bring your weapons and be prepared to fight your way in if you are aware nooks are on their way.
    Glowies created this mess and they owe it to all of us to either share the resources inside their taxpayer funded hideout or get greased by the civilians that they have sentenced to death.
    Whats better dying in your house or dying/surviving in a government base that has stores for a year+ ?

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get people talking about trying to survive nukes and talking about how many guns and bullets and MRE's they have.

    Can you grow and store food? Can you you rig up an electrical system? Can you fix appliances and electronics? If the answer is no then you won't survive more than a couple of weeks before biting your own bullet when reality sets in. These are argurably far more important skills to cultivate in real life than shooting paper targets or practicing your draw in front of a mirror.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bug out or bug in
    >just eat ze bugz

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I live 20 miles from a former weapons storage site that likely would have been a counterforce target. Unfortunately I also live near several major cities that would be prime countervalue targets and this is the Russians we're talking about.

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Newks are a free masonic judeo lie, relax you shit covered chicken

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are literally no bunkers in the UK, or at least none in middle class city/town homes. We are truly fucked.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wine cellar bro

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No one has wine cellars unless own a pub. And pub owners are the biggest cunts around.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just go to Wales, nobody is going to nuke Wales.

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i hope to die instantly in the first wave if full-scale nuclear war breaks out

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