in retrospect, this feint was so obvious, but only few of you guessed that Kherson was a trap.

in retrospect, this feint was so obvious, but only few of you guessed that Kherson was a trap.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Allies most definitely announced D-Day, just not where they were going to land. They tried their hardest to trick the Germans that they were going to land further north and not at Normandy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i kneel to Agent Garbo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same with Bagrations. Germans knew a Soviet attack would come but they guessed the area wrongly. Soviets made them believe the attack will target northern Ukraine instead of Belarus.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dieppe was a feint

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s incredibly that the entire eastern Ukraine front has collapsed in just a week. All that remains is the south

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The allies had fake divisions and armies running radio chatter in the UK to support the diversion of where d-day would land. Patton was running it if I recall correctly.
    There is no way they could hide the build up so they sought to confuse the Germans and lead them to the wrong conclusion, which worked.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it also helped that the germans were sure that any attack would need to go through calais to begin with, as it was the closest point to the UK and was also a major port
      so the germans bought the counter-intelligence hook, line, and sinker because it fit in so well with their own assumptions

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was a feint

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      brilliant

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I knew, I was just keeping opsec to help them out. I'm basically a hero

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fucking-a man
      that's bad ass
      wish i could keep opsec but if anyone tells me shit im posting it on telegram

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron you didn't know shit. You don't know shit. Where is your father rn? Opsec that

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I kneel

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Allied intelligence leaked the actual D-day plans to the germans. They were mixed in with a bunch of obvious fakes though so that the germans thought it was a feint when reports started coming in

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are vatniks still coping about the Kherson counteroffensive being a complete failure, I shit you not. They are not clever men.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And even then the Ukrainians were able to take more land in Kherson than Russia was able to take in two months.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >inb4 3000 dead oinkers in kherson cope

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not sure if Ukie Kherson Offensive was intended as a feint, but it did seem to have the effect of one.

    imo Ukraine launched simultaneous northern and southern offensives after months of preparation. Southern in Kherson had only meager gains, north completely broke Russia and is now is allowing advances in the south.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i think it's a matter of logistics, again - Ukraine can push from more directions in the East. Kherson is a bottleneck, and well defended, and relatively small, and right next to Crimea, which has had time to build up Russian forces. the limited scope of the Kherson offensive is, so far, i think, more down to Russia's Crimean air assets still being able to threaten Ukrainian positions/salients.

      for now.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's probably more accurate to say that Ukraine did not expect Russia to turn "not losing at Kherson," an indefensible nothing city that is only really a symbolic victory or important if Russia wanted to try to take Odessa (lol), into their #1 priority at the expense of every other front
      Kherson did not get 2/3rds or even 1/2 of the remaining Ukrainian army, but inexplicably Russia did commit something like 1/3rd to Kherson and start routing another 1/3rd to the South as reserves for Kherson
      no feint is required, it's just Russia making a really shit decision against all expectations and Ukraine capitalizing on it for an *even bigger* propaganda win, bravo Russia

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So what you're saying is that r*ssians are gullible and have no idea what they're doing?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This most likely. Russians have a huge front to defend and they went full doomstack for propaganda reasons. I hope the Ukies will capture all that ammo and the soldiers.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    u/k/openazis actually lost many tens of thousands to the kherson twitter offensive killing fields but the western media is trying to bury this information

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mucho oblungo

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What makes you think the russians didn't consider that as a possibility, and opened up their own trap in response? Ever wonder why they managed to produce a vacuum in the kharkiv front faster than the over-extended, undersupplied, and undergunned AFU forces could fill?

    This is no rout- this was a planned orderly retreat, with the ukrops exactly in the ambush and kill zone areas the russians want them to be, and delusional NAFOchud tourists that have infested this board since February are too busy celebrating early to even notice or consider that this all seems TOO suHispaniciously easy. Nevermind the fact that Russia still has tons and tons of equipment and reserve soldiers, and can overwhelm over-extended Ukrainian offenses when needed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, thats why they published propaganda videos of "reinforcements" heading to Kupiyansk and Izium, then abandon both the next day. totally planned

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Still doesn't take away from the fact that none of this was a disorderly rout and that RU forces have ukrops in their sights along a salient where they can artilleryspam the everloving fuck out of them like they did back in may and june, completely reversing the recent low-pop towns and villages captured that retards have been soifacing endlessly about.

        Bbut sure, don't let facts get in the way of your shill narrative

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What makes you think the russians didn't consider that as a possibility, and opened up their own trap in response? Ever wonder why they managed to produce a vacuum in the kharkiv front faster than the over-extended, undersupplied, and undergunned AFU forces could fill?

          This is no rout- this was a planned orderly retreat, with the ukrops exactly in the ambush and kill zone areas the russians want them to be, and delusional NAFOchud tourists that have infested this board since February are too busy celebrating early to even notice or consider that this all seems TOO suHispaniciously easy. Nevermind the fact that Russia still has tons and tons of equipment and reserve soldiers, and can overwhelm over-extended Ukrainian offenses when needed.

          Poor Ukrainians are sandwiched between two rivers on their flanks and their own territory to the south. Those piggies will get slaughtered surely.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Keep looking at the pretty flowers Ivan, that's it....

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          Poor Ukrainians are sandwiched between two rivers on their flanks and their own territory to the south. Those piggies will get slaughtered surely.

          lmao cope

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My post was sarcastic, the Ukrainians almost couldn't ask for better geographic features on their flanks as the consolodate their recent gains in Kharkiv.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Artillery doesn't care for fixed defenses along geographic features, no matter how convenient- they will all end up in dust and strewn UA bodies regardless. You conveniently forget this fact

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're gonna shell a river?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is filthy Onkranian river, comradski, so we be of denazifying it with glorious Russian bodies, same as of flagship and dirty Holol sea.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >salient
          mate the front has been blown wide open

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          cope and sneed subhuman. Western weapons will flow and flow and flow and flow and flow

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >none of this was a disorderly rout

          Yes, yes, it was totally an orderly withdrawal.

          Just ignore the thousands of tons of supplies and hundreds of intact vehicles left behind to be captured. Just ignore that the freakin' theatre CO got caught, and that they subsequently fired the next guy in charge of it all. Jsut ignore that the Ukrainians literally overran the mian supply and communciations hub in the entire theatre, making any kind of concerted counterattack logistically impossible. Just ignore that all this happened mere days before the arrival of Rasputitsa and maneuver warfare becoming nigh-impossible in the theatre for weeks to come.

          LMAO. This was as orderly a withdrawal as the fucking yanks did at Bladensburg.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ive seen this dumbass claiming the reinforcements were actually a successful delaying action

        Yeah a delaying action that lasted a day, if that

        Then theres this bizarre cope that came up the day before the russians announced the retreat, some absolutely delusional people were claiming russia somehow airlifted 10000 troops behind Ukrainian lines and the Ukis were surrounded, then the russians basically admitted defeat the next day and the talk about the 10000 VDV disappeared

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For a second I thought they painted the old ford v8 symbol on the side.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >BMP powered by a flathead ford

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What makes you think the russians didn't consider that as a possibility, and opened up their own trap in response?
      Putin's emotional response for one.
      The man has only one way to vent his anger and try to appear strong: murder.
      Every single time something fucking awful happens to Russia, Snake Island, the fighter jets in Crimea being destroyed, it's always followed by sudden, pointless missile strikes against railways, schools, shopping malls, or some other civilian target, or the "suicide" of a critic who wouldn't shut up, or the "assassination by Ukrainian Nazis" of a nobody he can throw away for propaganda spin.
      Putin has precisely the same mentality as Adolf Hitler and he's in pretty much the same state in terms of his career. He knows the end is near, he can't afford to look weak or his own people will eat him alive, so he murders people to appear strong. He can't push a button and make Ukraine lose, pushing a button and murdering Ukrainian civilians is all he CAN do, so that's what he does. Every single time.
      Even now his shills are spreading the good word about how he blew up power stations to try and show what a hard man he is, the sycophantic preening from his propagandist tools is what he's after, like a conductor leading a symphony, each shill knows how to follow his movements and says their prepared lines accordingly, giving him the public image boost he needs and soothing his own frail ego.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's a lot of words to say basically you have no answer and are just content with spouting nonsensical, verbal diarrhea 24/7.

        You are right on one thing though, and it's that the gloves are now off. Russia has eliminated >60% of Ukraine's power grid in the span of hours, while Ukraine celebrates over capturing some backwater towns. Totally sustainable!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          cope shill

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok comrade copenovich, you knocked down the power, whats the next step in your master plan?

          You ARE going to follow it up with something right? Otherwise is pointless vengeance

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Russian army is collapsing and you still think it’s winning?
          I’m curious, at what point would you consider the Russian military to be a failure? Is there something that could happen to make you think, “wow, they really are a corrupt shithole that’s full of ineptitude and drunkenness” ?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Never. The only thing that moves faster than Russians in retreat are the shills' goalposts. You can really tell it's bad though because the rabidly nationalistic milbloggers who are freaking out.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The Russian army is collapsing and you still think it’s winning?
            One small area getting ceded to the other side is not 'collapsing', that's just you falling for westoid propaganda. Russia can easily tap into their operational rear reserves and artyspam the hastily formed ukrainian defenses. None of this is settled, there will be a back and forth going on

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >One small area getting ceded
              lmao even

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's tha big blob of patrisan activity, it actually loks very interestingly plaved, basically cutting the russian linews full meaning they have to go through it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't that Melitopol?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >le powerstashun bombed
          >oh no I can't use my microwave
          >oh wait we're at war anyways

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukrainian power stations weren't knocked out on the first hour of the first day
          [Laughs in American]

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the gloves are off now
          I mean, I can pretty easily imagine what that means, but claiming all that rape and pillage and jackbooted 3am disappearing was "gloves on" is a bold play. We'll have to see how the judges react.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >spouting nonsensical, verbal diarrhea 24/7.
          Oh what you've been doing all thread :^)

          Why do all vatniks type like this, like they're trying so fucking hard to sound smart?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, putin is doing with his cruise missiles more or less the same shit hitler was doing with the V2s, pointless and expensive savagery

        At this point is beyond obvious the Ukrainian will to fight is not going to be broken by these attacks, if anything it just pisses them off more

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Very well written, especially after seeing months of back and forth shit posting muddying the waters of logical reasoning

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They all are so old and demoralized... how pootin dreamed win a war it it that excuse of an army.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This shit stopped being believable months ago, let alone when the counter offensive started. I don't believe for a second that any actual vatniks still come to this board. Stop larping just for Yous you fucking retards, or at least come up with funnier ways to do it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Anything I don't like is bait!
        Explain to me why, if this was the military disaster you and other shills claim it to be, there hasn't been footage of mass surrenders on the RU side? Recall back in april how every retard was claiming that kiev was a rout rather than a planned orderly retreat

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I refuse to believe anyone can have his head up his own ass this deep.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you know everything is going according to plan when the guy in charge is fired

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think this too
      The retreat was way too quick and efficient for it to be a spare of the moment decision
      They knew a counter offensive was coming and have pulled back to strike

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This is no rout- this was a planned orderly retreat,

      Dude, 400+ lost vehicles, some of which are basically brand new. Hundreds of dead and captured orcs. If that's an "orderly retreat" in your book, I don't even

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It can be both at the same time. I think everyone called that Kherson was an obvious effort to draw as much combat power as possible into an area where the conditions were most favorable for it to be degraded and least likely to cause problems. What shocked me and many others was just how porous Russian lines were and that Ukraine had a mechanized dagger to the heart ready to go. I'd also add that most offensives in this war have been measured in weeks-months and Kherson is less than 2 weeks since the official jumping off. Too early for a post mortem.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't a feint. More troops with better equipment were and are deployed towards Kherson than were ever deployed towards Kharkiv. Kherson has the best of Ukrainian equipment. Kharkiv was taken with infantry in humvees and civilian vehicles. There was no strategic trick, the Russians are just falling apart at the seams.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure it was never "announced". It may have been leaked but not announced. Twitter is not a good source for news.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where are the pictures of captured and dead Russians?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen a fair bit. There was an awful one where the inside of van looked like someone put a steak in a blender

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        link?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Other than a handful of stragglers? Nothing. Note how anyone making that claim fails to produce any sort of credible proof

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >spouts literal Russhit propaganda
    >calls other shill
    lmao kys

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nice PR Ivan!
    Where'd you find this gorgeous Blonde??

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Cum /chug/ger identified

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NAFO shill identified
      Reminder that russia has over 1+ million active duty and can easily overwhelm the ukies if they wanted to stop playing nice at any time (which seems to be about soon, now that their patience has been tested).

      How's kherson by the way? Still stalling after 3 months of declared counter-offensives (but for real this time)? 🙂

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Damn looks like they are gonna have to fire up the T34s this time around

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          russia didnt even have enough T-34s for a parade, they were the first thing they handed out to their client states once the T-55 was introduced
          this is also why you saw T-62s in service when the T-55 was more common, the soviets were giving away their T-55s as fast as they could make T-72s but no one wanted the T-62 other than the arabs

          the deep stocks of the soviets would be the T-72 ural, the T-72A, and the modernized T-62
          the latter two of which have already been spotted

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They actually have some T-34s right now, assuming they didn't end up in some oligarch's private collection. They bought functional ones from active Laotian service a few years ago so they could use them in modern propaganda, so they weren't even demilled.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >T-72A
            Russia has already deployed those.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >has over 1+ million active duty and can easily overwhelm the ukies if they wanted to stop playing nice at any time
        We're waiting...
        >How's kherson by the way?
        How's your entire northern front by the way? Still collapsing?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >can easily overwhelm the ukies if they wanted to stop playing nice at any time
        Oh no! Please don't take the gloves off! Please don't raise the eyebrow!!! Anything but that!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So Russia chose to send insufficient forces and get bogged down for months when they could have won already? WHY WOULD THEY EVER CHOOSE TO DO THAT?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >WHY WOULD THEY EVER CHOOSE TO DO THAT?

          Clearly you don't understand deep battle doctrine

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hows kherson by the way?
        so your response to an incredibly successful lightning offensive erasing 4 months of gains in 4 days the north is to point out that they have ANOTHER offensive slowly taking ground from you in the south, but because its not taking ground from you quite as fast you can brag about it?
        whats wrong with you?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You will never be white.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know this is a bait but let's reply anyway.
        Russia CAN'T overwhelm and deploy the whole 1 million active duty? Why?
        Because their logistics can barely handle the current amount of troops.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > How's kherson ?

        > Operation Husky
        > How's Greece ?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Retard identified
        Reminder the russian logistics are so shit, they have trouble properly supplying what troops they have in Ukraine already and that throwing in more untrained reservist cannonfodder will only make it worse.

        Also, LMAO. Kherson has seen more territory taken back by the Ukrainians over the last month than the Russians took in Donbass in the last five months.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Did the Allies D-Day before it happened?
    Yes, sort of. Allies created 2 entirely fake armies to the North as well as send messages with this info using encryption methods they knew the Germans had already cracked. This was done multiple times as well, and the Germans fell for it every time. They did it for the Southern invasion of France, Sicily, etc.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >but only few of you guessed that Kherson was a trap
    People pointed out Ukraine can blow the bridges when they get in range all the fucking time. It was always going to be a matter of whether they wanted to preserve the bridges for Crimea invasion and only blow them if the doomstacks are more trouble than they're worth fighting head on or blow them for massive supply and morale damage outright or try and rush around the city from the north to take the bridges before the fight and force a panic (sup Izyum).

    The bridges were always going to be key to Kherson and the trap play was one of the 3 obvious options.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I knew I just didn't say anything

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We here on PrepHole are top minds
    We do not believe in feints

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know, i don't know why either side has been announcing all their battle maneuvers before under taking them.
    I don't think there has been a single push, operation, offensive, counter offensive etc that hasn't been announced on fucking twitter a day or even a week prior to it fucking happening.
    It's mad.
    Pure insanity.
    Imagine if the allies posted their plans to land on the beaches of Normandy the day before the landings.
    Aboslute clown show. Anyone believing this is a real fight and not a pantomime is an idiot.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia didn't even tell its own soldiers they were going to invade. Of course it was impossible to hide from nato intelligence anyway, but they tried.

      And it's not like this very thread isn't a counterexample either. Ukraine didn't say they were attacking anywhere except Kherson beforehand.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pretty sure anyone with their head on straight saw that it was a trick. The question is how much of a trick is it. Looks like it's less a decoy and more straight up baiting the bulk of the enemy into a disadvantageous position to grind them down.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't a 'feint' per se, the actions being taken in Kherson are done with the intention of eventually reclaiming the city.
    The trick was hyping up one offensive while discreetly building up others. The end result was two offensives, one slow and grinding another fast and dynamic.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And by the time of Kharkiv offensive there is a Moscow Anniversary. Creating even more distressed among people. If Kherson isn't a feint then idk.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >lives in the west
    >chugs for russia
    Is that the same whore that lost her job or was that another one?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She got deported back to Russia and cried about how unfair it was lmao

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Many such cases

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been reflecting on this poster, is the irony lost on him?

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think there was no feint and Ukrainians launched two legitimate offensives simultaneously, one more succesful than the other

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The real feint is that the Kherson offensive is not a feint after all.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fun thread in hindsight
    https://archived.moe/k/thread/54972058

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Warboss kunnin'
    Umies take dirt but warboss plan
    Know where umies do and plan against
    Waaagh still on.

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