In preparation for the fiscal year 2024 comptroller defense spending report to drop in April lets revisit last years report.

In preparation for the fiscal year 2024 comptroller defense spending report to drop in April let’s revisit last years report.
https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/Documents/defbudget/FY2023/FY2023_Weapons.pdf

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    61 f35s received across all services.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Oh boy, another 60 useless f35's, just what we need to strike fear into the hearts of Russia and China!

      https://i.imgur.com/x8U9QDJ.jpg

      6 more chinooks for the army

      >60 useless planes for the airforce, courtesy of the MIC
      >while the US Army only gets another 6 new chinooks for the entire year

      https://i.imgur.com/ZCHr7Ex.jpg

      24 f15-EX

      >f15's instead of f22's
      MIC and special interest Black folk are destroying the readiness of the military.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Oh you’re one of those

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >f35 plane is best plane! buy more!
          >w-what, you say it isnt, you're an actual organic person? oh you're one of those!

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Cool greenmemes, definitely suaded me.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >p-please buy more f35's
              Do you at least get paid for this? How many MIC shekels do you get per post?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >being this obvious
                Don't spend it all on your favorite ramen pack. MIC needs you to cut today's lunch break short, Schlomo.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you're moronic so i'm going to post images at you until you shut up

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >s-stop shitting on my shit shill thread
                >a-also, write congressman to buy more f35!
                You're the one (you)'ing me seething that I dared to point out the absurdity of the purchases and priority. Keep /k/oping you moronic low-paid fricking shill.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                mhmm

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >i-im not a mic-shilling israelite!!!
                >behaves like a mic-shilling israelite
                >posts unrelated random bizarre images and talks like a confused schizo in his replies
                >starts posting coom pictures
                Come on, just tell me your shekel rate per post. Quit being a lil b***h about it. Why are you so uppity and touchy about it?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i'm giving your posts exactly the respect they deserve, that's not being a schizo and you might actually get a gf or friends if you come to terms with this

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You’re the one who got so emotional about the US buying a bunch of good planes. Your favorite nation didn’t receive that many planes last year. Your favorite nation doesn’t even have 60 5th generation fighters in total. I understand why you lashed out

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                He's a seething Russian military shill, likely assigned to this Japanese-American backwater anime board to ensure that it's posters do not become too uppity and challenge the American MIC and it's procurement of glorious F35, greatest plane of all planes that beat all planes like they not even plane!

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                hey stop posting so much 🙁

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Mate you think fricking chinooks are vital army procurements needed in the dozens hahahaha what year is it gramps?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >mate
                Opinion discarded. Come back when American and have been in the military. Go grab some tidepods to snack on and settle down, zoom zoom.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >s-stop shitting on my shit shill thread
                >a-also, write congressman to buy more f35!
                You're the one (you)'ing me seething that I dared to point out the absurdity of the purchases and priority. Keep /k/oping you moronic low-paid fricking shill.

                So what’s wrong with the F-35? Don’t use the words shlomo or MIC.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >s-stop calling me my names
                Lol
                Lmao

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Thought so

                >mate
                Opinion discarded. Come back when American and have been in the military. Go grab some tidepods to snack on and settle down, zoom zoom.

                >7am on the west coast
                >3pm in moscow
                Hm

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >f35 number one!!!!
                >y-you're a russian bot!
                Lol
                Lmao
                Lmfao

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >i-im not a mic-shilling israelite!!!
                >behaves like a mic-shilling israelite
                >posts unrelated random bizarre images and talks like a confused schizo in his replies
                >starts posting coom pictures
                Come on, just tell me your shekel rate per post. Quit being a lil b***h about it. Why are you so uppity and touchy about it?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >7am on the west coast
                Bruh it's not even 7am on the east coast, 5 more minutes

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I’m moronic and got weast and est confused

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's easy to get such time zones and their current times mixed up all the way from Tel Aviv. I've done it once or twice myself.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Just one reason Ivan. I believe in you

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Larping as a zogbot helps your credibility as moronic but not on why the F35 is “bad”

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >suckles the F-22
        >shits on the F-35
        strange. just 20 years ago reformertards like you caused the cancellation of the F-22 because the F-15 was obviously better and stealth was a meme

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        t.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Frick that’s impressive. In one year the US took possession of more 5th generation jets than any other nation has in total. Production is really ramping up because this number doesn’t even include the planes sold to other customers. Sometimes I forget just how much of an export success the f35 is

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        F35 is literally the best fighter jet in the entire world. No other jet holds a candle to it and can defeat it. Russian bots are furious that nations are getting their hands on the most advanced and most capable fighter jets in the entire world to resist their wars of aggression.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I know that. I’m just pointing out how crazy it is that we took possession of over 60 of them last year. It’s even making bug people seethe itt

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            What's crazier is that we didn't take possession of even more. We need to phase out production of every other plane and produce solely F35's. They are literally the greatest fighter jet in the world, and we are wasting money with purchasing 50 year old buckets of bolts! Why would we even purchase that many of these old planes when the F35 is superior in every single way... I'm going to write my congressman about this immediately on Lockheed Martin's behalf, and everyone else here should as well.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              do you take printouts of these posts to your psychiatrist?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you bringing up psychatrists? Did you have a recent appointment with one, Schlomo? Did she tell you to take your meds, schizo? How did this recent psychiatrist appointment go, can you please tell us what she said was the reason for your behavior?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                apparently being sexually attracted to the nozzles of an f-35 is unhealthy, i disagree but the valium she gives me is pretty nice

                how about you?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Personally, it's the Rolls-Royce LiftSystem for me. The things I would do to that if I could get to it with a bottle of lube, after getting past these anti-semites that keep denying my TS clearance and access to the manufacturing plant. I'm Israeli but also American. I don't understand why they deny. My people never steal secret from America and are literally greatest ally.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                sure

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    5 new c-130s entered service

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Air Force transferred some reapers over to the marines.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    3 of the newest variant of global hawk and funding for a new operations base

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    6 more chinooks for the army

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    53 black hawks

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    First 4 MQ-25 stealthy aerial refueling drones

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    5 E-2Ds. This is part of the reason our navy is so powerful

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >casually builds the entire operational fleet of Russian AEW in one year

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        We recently announced we are buying a whole fleet of like 25-30 of the new E-7A that Australia and South Korea bought.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          that's cool too, but setting aside the money in ONE YEAR is kind of a step above announcing the intent to purchase, YKWIM?

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    10 of the best heavy lift helicopters in the world, the CH-53K

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/0LaIAd6.jpg

      5 E-2Ds. This is part of the reason our navy is so powerful

      https://i.imgur.com/PAFzNyM.jpg

      15 KC-46 tankers. No other Air Force even comes close to the number of tankers the US has

      https://i.imgur.com/eEMOe8i.jpg

      3700 JLTVs procured this year or about 10 a day

      https://i.imgur.com/zcNhXf3.jpg

      160 medium trucks. Love stroking that logistics dick

      https://i.imgur.com/O3Vh5UN.jpg

      180 heavy transport trucks

      This is what makes america so powerful. No one else even comes close to producing this number of logistical vehicles. I believe this years production of aerial refuelers is more than china has all together

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    15 KC-46 tankers. No other Air Force even comes close to the number of tankers the US has

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    24 f15-EX

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >24 f15-EX
      >12 F-15E mods
      I don't think those are the same thing? it says the E's are getting new radar but not the rest of the EX package. Don't misrepresent the report, it makes you look bad and you don't gain anything by doing so. F-15E with modern radar is still lightyears ahead of any of the competition.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >12 F-15E mods
        Huh? Where'd you get that from?
        All I see in terms of quantity for fiscal year 2023 in the paper posted is procurement of 24 F-15EX units.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >24 f15-EX
          >12 F-15E mods
          I don't think those are the same thing? it says the E's are getting new radar but not the rest of the EX package. Don't misrepresent the report, it makes you look bad and you don't gain anything by doing so. F-15E with modern radar is still lightyears ahead of any of the competition.

          I'm reading 24 F-15EX no specified number for F-15E mods just $$ value

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >12 F-15E mods
            Huh? Where'd you get that from?
            All I see in terms of quantity for fiscal year 2023 in the paper posted is procurement of 24 F-15EX units.

            >24 f15-EX
            >12 F-15E mods
            I don't think those are the same thing? it says the E's are getting new radar but not the rest of the EX package. Don't misrepresent the report, it makes you look bad and you don't gain anything by doing so. F-15E with modern radar is still lightyears ahead of any of the competition.

            Is a simple table like that too complex for you?

            sorry I apparently am too moronic to read a simple table. but can't delete my old post so I have to live with the shame until the thread dies

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              No problem, we all have these moments sometimes.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              A'rite. I'll take that at face value. Please don't take

              Anon, this is what was delivered in 2022. It was all ordered & planned out before vatnikstan chimped out. Wait until March 2025 and compare to what was delivered during 2023 and 2024 before trying to read any trends into reaction to Putin's Folly.

              Specifically, watch for equipment distributed outside of U.S. forces (e.g. all the shit going to Ukraine, and all our other allies in NATO and the EU). You need to find a different report for that because it all (almost entirely) comes out of existing stocks that were delivered to U.S. forces between 1990 and 2021. None of which will show up in these reports.

              It takes a truly vatnik-tier level of fundamental stupid to look at deliverables to the U.S. internally in 2022 and somehow conclude "omygarrshk! t3h America is running out of t3h monies and shooty stuffs!" The deliverables reports for the next decade will show (by what it replaces) what was shipped out of existing stock during 2022 & 2023.

              > t. this ride hasn't even left the station yet, and nothing is going to stop it now that it's started

              personally, just a general rant at anyone trolling the dumb through these threads to derail them. There's been so much of that recently I can no longer filter out the usual brainfarts. Peace & carry on.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Fair play, it happens sometimes, anon.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/Eg61qvI.jpg

                A'rite. I'll take that at face value. Please don't take [...] personally, just a general rant at anyone trolling the dumb through these threads to derail them. There's been so much of that recently I can no longer filter out the usual brainfarts. Peace & carry on.

                right after my first post I had something to eat, came back and re-read the thread and just felt immense pain from realising how fricking stupid I looked.
                Do not post on an empty stomach.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Is a simple table like that too complex for you?

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    10 combat rescue helicopters

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    5 grey wolf helicopters for defending domestic nuclear sites

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >helicopter based on AW139
      >made by Leonardo
      >primary contractor: the boeing company

      fricking lol

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It looks like procurement numbers are winding down, despite an increase in the budget, what's going on? Are the sustainment costs that high?
    Captcha:YAYM8

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They’re only winding down on things that are sufficiently stocked. We haven’t even gotten to the ammo procurement

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Shit, right. I only saw aircraft on the list so I thought it was an airforce thing

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >24 f15ex
        >60 fricking f35s

        If this is winding down, then we can wind down.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You came to that conclusion by viewing 8 slides of projects with procurement numbers planned out years in advance? What exactly are you worried is winding down? Be very specific I would like to address your concern

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        See

        Shit, right. I only saw aircraft on the list so I thought it was an airforce thing

        Just a moron ESL moment, don't mind me. I meant airframes across the board

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, this is what was delivered in 2022. It was all ordered & planned out before vatnikstan chimped out. Wait until March 2025 and compare to what was delivered during 2023 and 2024 before trying to read any trends into reaction to Putin's Folly.

      Specifically, watch for equipment distributed outside of U.S. forces (e.g. all the shit going to Ukraine, and all our other allies in NATO and the EU). You need to find a different report for that because it all (almost entirely) comes out of existing stocks that were delivered to U.S. forces between 1990 and 2021. None of which will show up in these reports.

      It takes a truly vatnik-tier level of fundamental stupid to look at deliverables to the U.S. internally in 2022 and somehow conclude "omygarrshk! t3h America is running out of t3h monies and shooty stuffs!" The deliverables reports for the next decade will show (by what it replaces) what was shipped out of existing stock during 2022 & 2023.

      > t. this ride hasn't even left the station yet, and nothing is going to stop it now that it's started

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    3700 JLTVs procured this year or about 10 a day

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That seems like a lot

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They're replacing all of the hmmvws

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A lot happening with abrams. 4 brigades updated to sepv3, 22 tanks to sepv4 standards, 3rd gen thermal sights added. I have to say I’m loving this

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >sepv4
      Does anyone know what updates does it provide over v3?

      Also actuall good thread OP, thanks.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks. It’s a break from my usual making fun of British armored vehicle posting

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        3rd generation thermal for gunner and commander
        Laser rangefinder for CITV, Laser warning reciever
        + other things

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This easily makes it the best tank in the world again

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How did the Abrams jump from $13 million in FY 2021 to $29 Million in FY 2023? Does this table conflate different upgrade packages?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Of course, previous years were paying to upgrade to SEPv3

        Now it's SEPv4, the cost will come down with time just like the SEPv3 originally and the SEPv2 before that.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.asafm.army.mil/Portals/72/Documents/BudgetMaterial/2023/Base%20Budget/Procurement/WTCV_ARMY_II.pdf#page=109&zoom=page-fit,-162,612
        >Please Note: An error was made during system update and the FY 2023 quantity reflected on the Exhibit P-40 Resource Summary and Secondary Distribution should be 44 vs 22. The system will be updated at a later date to reflect the true quantity.
        fat fingers

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >the US is going to own the worlds largest fleet of tanks fully upgraded with third generation thermals by an order of magnitude
      >my country uses an IFV that feeds from a clip and doesn’t have a stabilized gun

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    72 APCs

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    160 medium trucks. Love stroking that logistics dick

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/O3Vh5UN.jpg

      180 heavy transport trucks

      But how many pallets anon? Those are the real wunderwaffe

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >how many pallets
        [OpSec] *redacted*
        Nobody has the clearance to see those numbers. Nobody.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    180 heavy transport trucks

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Good stuff happening with Stryker too. The 30mm unmanned turret dragoon is being procured. Atgm variants featuring CROWs-J (javelin) also being procured

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      love it. 30mm bushmaster fricks. I'd love to see a higher ROF though.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait to see the NGSW-R (XM7/M7) order for 2024 so all the morons saying it'll get canceled will finally shut the frick up.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    74 amphibious assault vehicles

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    3 additional THAAD batteries

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i'm confused by this - why did we add 32 in 2022 and 39 in 2021, but only 3 in 2023?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Could've been the tail end delivery of a 5-10 year procurement contract.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Anon you are reading this wrong, this is 3 THAAD missiles, not 3 batteries. Yes the missiles are about 10 mil a pop.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SM-3s

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Beefing up patriot

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >phased array tracking radar to intercept of target
      How much do you think they pay people for those acronyms?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/X4X4DBa.jpg

      SM-3s

      >phone poster not even fricking cropping images
      have a nice day. You aren't smart and your thread is fricking gay.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like only one imagine in the entire thread isn’t cropped. Not a big deal really

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >screeching about crops
        >too moronic to see OP linked the document
        I think you need to take your own advice anon

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    7200 JDAM

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >M-code capable
      Is this the new dedicated military GPS channel?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yup. Fancy new features, lets the military jam regular GPS without fratricide, and way better jam resistance in general. However, there's still a shitload of legacy systems not capable of using it.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sharp decline in hellfire production. Not sure if that’s due to the JAGM or not participating in any COIN operations at the moment

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who interned at the sand lake site. I remember the cfo making a speech about how the hellfire was their best seller to euros participating in COIN and that they couldn't keep production up to match demand (like 2017). Seeing as how euros have moved focus to ukraine, I imagine it does have to with less emphasis on their budget for coin and more for procuring artillery shells etc for ukr.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I hate how they didn't opt for a powered mini cruise missile like the SPEAR 3,but then the SPEAR only has a tiny warhead, supposedly pic rel, while the payload on the SDB II is gigantic.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    581 JASSM. We’re sitting on a really healthy stockpile of long range stealth cruise missiles

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      To kill lots of Chinese before they leave ports. What are the numbers for LRASM?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >LRASM
        88 in FY23

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I’m glad you asked. 88 procured this year. That’s a huge number for an air launched ASM of this caliber. Basically enough LRASMs procured this year to cripple any fleet on earth

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    1000 jagm

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    4700 GMLRS. I expect these numbers to blast off after providing Ukraine with them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Enhanced AW Warhead modification to provide a ligh/medium anti-armor capability

      Reactive material fragstorm incoming.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >current versions have raped vatnik BTG columns up and down
        >those were not considered to have an anti-armor capability
        what type of spicy shit is this?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, look up the rear and top armor of a BTR or BMP-2. The BMP-2's side armor is about 18mm. That's 155mm artillery tier, a 200 lb warhead will have no problems.

          What the brochure refers to is likely the ability to penetrate the armor of something like Mobile Protected Firepower or perhaps a very beefed up Bradley. So not quite an early Abrams or T-72 but more than a beefed up Stryker.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, look up the rear and top armor of a BTR or BMP-2. The BMP-2's side armor is about 18mm. That's 155mm artillery tier, a 200 lb warhead will have no problems.

          What the brochure refers to is likely the ability to penetrate the armor of something like Mobile Protected Firepower or perhaps a very beefed up Bradley. So not quite an early Abrams or T-72 but more than a beefed up Stryker.

          https://i.imgur.com/hhoTgrp.jpg

          [...]
          Testing of the AW warhead. It's 180,000 various diameter tungsten balls.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous
            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                [...]
                What does this mean for the increased procurement of the F35?

                Anon? Hello? Why did the thread suddenly die? Is it nighttime already in Tel Aviv?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/5NhkSKJ.jpg

            https://i.imgur.com/MXUUjM9.jpg

            What does this mean for the increased procurement of the F35?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, look up the rear and top armor of a BTR or BMP-2. The BMP-2's side armor is about 18mm. That's 155mm artillery tier, a 200 lb warhead will have no problems.

        What the brochure refers to is likely the ability to penetrate the armor of something like Mobile Protected Firepower or perhaps a very beefed up Bradley. So not quite an early Abrams or T-72 but more than a beefed up Stryker.

        Testing of the AW warhead. It's 180,000 various diameter tungsten balls.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Forgot vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5h7BkCj5rI

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            Gotta love freedom. For all the shit we give Americans, they can create cool weapons.

            >govt has this shit
            >I can’t legally buy home defense claymores at the local hardware store
            It’s bullshit

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I wish. What they don't know can't hurt them, though.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Forgot vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5h7BkCj5rI

          Gotta love freedom. For all the shit we give Americans, they can create cool weapons.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are those individual rockets or 6 rocket pods?

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    About 600 javelin. Those numbers should pump after Ukraine as well. I’ve read articles saying the US is restocking its own supplies if javelins starting in FY 2024

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I remember seeing photos of a lightweight next gen CLU, any idea where that is? There was a plan to turn it into a common unit for both the jav and whatever replaces the stinger.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >The team conducted its first test launch of a Javelin missile from the LWCLU on Oct. 5

        This was October 2022. LRIP (low rate initial production) starts deliveries in 2025 with 200 units and I believe going up to 600 units within a year or two.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They’re starting to show up all over the army

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          No they're not, see

          >The team conducted its first test launch of a Javelin missile from the LWCLU on Oct. 5

          This was October 2022. LRIP (low rate initial production) starts deliveries in 2025 with 200 units and I believe going up to 600 units within a year or two.

          The first ones won't even get delivered until 2025.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            My unit has them.

            >The team conducted its first test launch of a Javelin missile from the LWCLU on Oct. 5

            This was October 2022. LRIP (low rate initial production) starts deliveries in 2025 with 200 units and I believe going up to 600 units within a year or two.

            is probably only using open source info

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Stop LARPing, the production line isn't even set up yet, they can make them by hand individually, probably a couple per week. But there is no reason to since the US isn't in a shooting war with anyone.

              Your "unit" hasn't gotten a god damn thing. The LWCLU program isn't even classified. It's all public record.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'm surprised per unit cost is already at $242k even at only 203 ordered. The full rate production line is supposed to be 600 per year, so they can probably bring the per-unit costs down even a bit more.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >$320k each
      I thought these were cheaper in the past. Am I wrong or is there an upgrade over older generations?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That likely includes overhead like setting up the new full rate production line for the upgraded LWCLU

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Makes sense

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      thats' not a lot. didnt Ukraine get like 5000 or so?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >5000
        7000, and that was estimated to be ~1/3rd of US stocks.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Estimated by who

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Mark Cancian, a senior adviser with the International Security Program at CSIS

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              What sources did he cite

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              > Colonel Mark Cancian, U.S. Marine Corps (Retired), works in a think tank in Washington and is a frequent contributor to Proceedings. He served in the Marine Corps for 33 years. From September 2006 to March 2007, he served as the G-7 Assistant Chief of Staff for Assessments in the Multi National Force-West in Iraq.

              Hmm idk if he's qualified enough

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Well the US was flush with them so procurement was low.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    120 urgent release PrSM. Really excited about this one

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Oops forgot pic

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >60-650 km
        I thought the range of the first version of PrSM was still going to be 500 km? I know the treaty is no longer relevant but still

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I think it was pretty much always listed at 499km before the treaty was being ignored, after it was listed as 500km+ with no maximum range stated beyond that.

      • 1 year ago
        RC-135 Rivet Joint

        Jesus we are getting ready for the big one.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          We really are planning to defend Taiwan huh...

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I was listening to a podcast on the subject that had very senior people in the defense sector and it really struck me how non-chalant they were about how "oh yeah if the PRC invades Taiwan the US will immediately respond with full military force in every situation". They also mentioned that the international arms procurement that opened the floodgates for Ukraine to acquire American arms after the invasion was also very quietly given to Taiwan as well.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >it really struck me how non-chalant they were about how "oh yeah if the PRC invades Taiwan the US will immediately respond with full military force in every situation".
              Rome can't afford to ignore aggression on its allies

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          They're going to have anti-ship capabilities, too. They were working on an ATACMS and GMLRS/GMLRS-ER with anti-ship capabilities, but, just rolled that effort and money into the PrSM.

          • 1 year ago
            RC-135 Rivet Joint

            They are game planning for island hopping and I'm extremely happy.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Yep. That's why they were testing the HIMARS, and the Autonomous Multi-Domain Launcher HIMARS Island hopping from C-130s.
              https://seapowermagazine.org/rapid-himars-deployment-to-remote-location-demonstrates-distributed-lethality/
              https://www.defensedaily.com/army-demonstrates-autonomous-multi-domain-launcher-concept/army/
              https://www.defensenews.com/land/2021/06/16/us-army-fires-autonomous-launcher-in-pacific-focused-demo/

              Then add in the ability for the F-35 to target for HIMARS, and you get quite a lethal capability.
              https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/10/05/marines-connect-f-35-jet-to-himars-rocket-shot-for-first-time/

              Add HIMARS launched from the amphibious transport dock USS Anchorage
              https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/10/05/marines-connect-f-35-jet-to-himars-rocket-shot-for-first-time/
              https://www.dvidshub.net/image/3886934/dawn-blitz-2017-uss-anchorage-himars-shoot

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                could you imagine being a lance corporal with a ship kill?

              • 1 year ago
                RC-135 Rivet Joint

                They really are use landing craft to set up micro Firebases with minimal manning.

                Distribution of the kill web or some shit. Couple grunts on rock shooting million dollar missiles at a Chinese amphibious assault ship.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                China unironicaly dug their own grave when the wolf warrior shit went too far
                >Philippines plays both sides for literal decades
                >suddenly Chinese hardliners ape out over muh rightfur cray
                >build artificial island bases in Phillipines waters
                >literally name one mischief reef like a cartoon villain
                >Phillipines now lets the US build three very substantial military bases along the western coasts of the Phillipine islands and signs various cooperation agreements
                Those bases they built aren’t even going to amount to much it’s so moronic. The Chinese nationalists are going to drag their country down

                But the west will also be totally unready to deal with the sheer amount of sabotage that Chinese nationals will carry out in the west when things go hot. I don’t think the average Australian/American/Canadian will be able to accept that most people from mainland China will have absolutely no loyalty to whatever country they’re living in and will do everything in their power to aid in attacks against it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Damn, I somehow didn't consider the active saboutage part. Water and sewage plants especially seem like particularly ripe targets.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                America is fairly well insulated, most of their Chinese population is fairly anti CCP, and Chinese nationals are literally barred from working in sensitive industries. Leaking stuff from universities, civil infrastructure, civilian fabrication and tech companies etc is a bigger threat. Australia and Canada have much larger populations of Chinese with family in the mainland, loyalty to the CCP, extensive buisness interests in Canada/aus, nationalist tendencies and very low levels of assimilation. Those are also countries much less willing and able to shut out, deport or suppress Chinese migrants and nationals
                China has already interfered in Australia and Canada quite heavily

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >China has already interfered in Australia
                They have and as a response foreign interference laws were passed that are being copied by otger western c**ts, as well investments laws targeting Chinese SOEs in Australia. More powers were given to the Treasurer to block chinese investments in Rare Earth Supply chains. Diversifacation has been ramping up since the chinese instigated a trade war, a punishment for Australian defiance, in turn reducing china's hold over trade that they wank off
                tldr; China's is big stupid

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Shame the Australian domestic audience is too muddled on China and both parties have plenty of compromised individuals with various financial interests tied to China. Industry also has interests in China
                Australia is sleepwalking towards disaster because politicians, industry and the public are all deluded into thinking things will just putter along. She’ll be right.
                All major parties are guilty of this and love scoring easy political points on China
                >liberals accuse labour of being hawkish on China
                >labour accuses liberals of being soft on China
                >then switch accusations when convenient

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Im more optimistic. Australians dont like, have never like and probably will never like them. compromised individuals have slowly been removed from office by party pressure or losing elections. I would say Sam Dastyari and Gladys Liu are examples of this. Your last two points are fair.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t think Australia likes China or won’t fight against them, I think properly and especially openly preparing for war against China is a political impossibility for the Australian government. Industry won’t stomach it, the public won’t buy into it, and the opposition (whichever party it is at the time) will always use it to score points

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I disagree strongly. The political climate and attitudes among most people towards China has shifted dramatically in Australia in recent years.

                While people used to generally not care about China's authoritarian nature and were happy to just take their money, the pandemic and China's increasing hawkishness in the SEA Sea have caused most people to develop a very negative view of the CCP. Both major political parties are also now firmly in lockstep when it comes to defence policy.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t think that’s 100% true. I think Australians still don’t have the stomach for war and are really desperate for letting the Chinese be Chinese but let Aussies be Aussies, IE let’s sell each other shit and pretend we don’t find each other loathsome.
                Maybe it’s different elsewhere, I’m speaking as someone living in inner Sydney which might as well be Terra Chinullus

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Didn’t they get shit on for their clowning in a few African countries also? I coulda swore I heard news about some African countries saying frick you and seizing a bunch of Chinese assets since they couldn’t put up with the bullying and uneven deals and realized China was at least currently only capable of barking at them.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                There were soft runs of this during the start of covid. Local chinese owned companies were buying up all the masks and toilet paper and shipping them off to china in places like aus and nz. I dont think westerners realise how deeply infiltrated they are by people that have absolutely no loyalty to them

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yep. And the news out of Canada right now is grim, compromised from the top to the root. CCP owns the government and has been bribing/blackmailing Chinese nationals to conduct espionage and interfere in local elections for years. It’ll either cripple China or backfire really horribly when it catapults anti China hawks into power in Canada but they’ve already demolished their own military

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                There's a blog floating around the web called navy matters or something like that, they guy constantly b***hes about this concept, says sensors don't work, all you need is analog and the mk. one eyeball then unironically believes we should armor our ships back to WW2 standards and use battleships again.

                It's fricking wild that you see the effect of drones and massed fires and why being able to concentrate and aggregate/disperse forces quickly the the difference between moderate losses and entire BTG's wiped crossing a river. Yet people still don't trust sensors and SIGINT kek

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >navy matters
                yeah Comnavops is a well-known moron
                I drop by once a year to see how moronic he is
                his latest post is quite kekworthy:
                >Jutland
                >submarines could not effectively support the fleet battle, and engaged no ships
                >takeaway: it's stupid to invest in submarines, they can NEVER effectively support the battle fleet, better to reduce investment in subs, dedicate them to special ops
                applying the lessons of a 100-year-old battle to modern warfare in THAT way? with total disregard for how technology has changed the way war is fought?
                frick me!

                that's the level of "analysis" one expects from Navy Matters

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    125 SM-6

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Crazy how far ahead the us is in space

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The way the US strengthens its strategic assets like its gps satellites is part of the reason a handful of American rocket artillery trucks were able to completely halt the Russian advance last summer

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks Anon for your Autism Reports, I would fricking die 5 pages in reading all these documents
    keep it up and cya at the next defense spending Report thread

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    2 Virginia class submarines

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    2 flight III burkes

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Logistics ship

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Reading through these threads made me realize just how expensive everything in US arsenal is.
    Losing to Afghanistan makes mucb better sense in this context.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Losing to Afghanistan
      Militarily we won though, we only lost politically as the public and political will to continue the war was waning. The problem is unless the US is willing to commit genocide, or commit to a full scale occupation for at least 2-3 generations, there is no way to "win" in Afghanistan, and since the US public would never support genocide and the ongoing occupation was unpopular (both publicly and in the government/military) we left.

      We didn't get "beaten" by some afghan military power.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Militarily we won though
        Inshallah, habibi.
        >The problem is unless the US is willing to commit genocide, or commit to a full scale occupation for at least 2-3 generations, there is no way to "win" in Afghanistan, and since the US public would never support genocide and the ongoing occupation was unpopular
        This is the biggest cope ever, probably bigger than
        >36 hours to take Kyiv.
        Every time US went to war in the Middle East, it slaughtered millions indiscriminantly, in quiet and away from journalists, only for the public to find out about these adventures 10-15 years later, mentioned nonchalantly in some public report.
        In Afghanistan, US never even took the territory - what it managed to do is take the capital, a few roads and loudly roar out "VICTORY! WHERE MY MEDAL AT?" (getting Iraq flashbacks, where after taking the capital and declaring victory the US had to spend 4 years fighting "insurgents" in every other city facing up to brigade-sized 'insurgent' units.
        The only difference is there was no Saddam to depose in Afghanistan, so, being unable to take more than just the capital, US quietly sat there for 20 years and fled.
        Napoleon, undoubtedly, would kill to have logistics allowing him to sit in Moscow for 20 years.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          We all get it, you're moronic, no need to make it so obvious though.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            https://files.catbox.moe/gjc38j.png

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              What exactly is that supposed to prove?

              It's hilarious you seem to think i give a frick about anyone living in Afghanistan.

              Like I said, unless the US wanted to stay for another 40-50 years there was never going to "winning" that war in the way you want.

              And we can see Russia attempting to "win" in ukraine the way the US refused to do in Afghanistan. Do you think the US should've done what russia is doing and just rape and abuse the ones you don't kill?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Kek,absolutly malding and rebit spacing.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >le reddit spacing maymay

                good job outing yourself as a newbie.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That’s not an argument

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Every time US went to war in the Middle East, it slaughtered millions indiscriminantly, in quiet and away from journalists,
          Like when and where?

          Also you are admitting the other guy is right. Millions isn’t enough, you have to kill half or more of the population. You have to kill so many that everyone everywhere notices it. Afghanistan doesn’t see that on the news. Muhammed doesn’t know muhammed died 200 miles away.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Don't give them oxygen. Laugh silently and scroll on.

            Thank you.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Nah I like to make fun of them

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Losing to Afghanistan
          Militarily we won though, we only lost politically as the public and political will to continue the war was waning. The problem is unless the US is willing to commit genocide, or commit to a full scale occupation for at least 2-3 generations, there is no way to "win" in Afghanistan, and since the US public would never support genocide and the ongoing occupation was unpopular (both publicly and in the government/military) we left.

          We didn't get "beaten" by some afghan military power.

          The US was trying to nation-build in Afghanistan. Note the GDP, human development index, maternal mortality, and population density all improved during the American occupation. Contrast that to what happened when the Soviets invaded (all those same markers were likely worsened).

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >afghans would legitimately rather live in medieval tier squalor with constant baby deaths, no healthcare and crushing poverty
            At some point anon you just have to accept theres no helping some people.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >medieval tier squalor with constant baby deaths, no healthcare and crushing poverty
              kek, its like visiting Kentucky

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                How is Texas Oblast today, fellow American?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Dunno, thankfully i dont live there.
                Its full of mexicans and Greg Abbott is constantly trying to kill you through incompetence

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Militarily we won though
        Inshallah, habibi.
        >The problem is unless the US is willing to commit genocide, or commit to a full scale occupation for at least 2-3 generations, there is no way to "win" in Afghanistan, and since the US public would never support genocide and the ongoing occupation was unpopular
        This is the biggest cope ever, probably bigger than
        >36 hours to take Kyiv.
        Every time US went to war in the Middle East, it slaughtered millions indiscriminantly, in quiet and away from journalists, only for the public to find out about these adventures 10-15 years later, mentioned nonchalantly in some public report.
        In Afghanistan, US never even took the territory - what it managed to do is take the capital, a few roads and loudly roar out "VICTORY! WHERE MY MEDAL AT?" (getting Iraq flashbacks, where after taking the capital and declaring victory the US had to spend 4 years fighting "insurgents" in every other city facing up to brigade-sized 'insurgent' units.
        The only difference is there was no Saddam to depose in Afghanistan, so, being unable to take more than just the capital, US quietly sat there for 20 years and fled.
        Napoleon, undoubtedly, would kill to have logistics allowing him to sit in Moscow for 20 years.

        Afghanistan was not a loss in terms of military operations. It was quite a success with the taliban being effectively suppressed in the early 2010s when troop presence was at its peak. The only problem was setting up a nation that can hold itself, which is a big problem with Afghanistan. America stopped doing ground operations against the taliban in 2014 and shifted towards training the ANA and providing them with limited support in the air. That was not enough because the ANA was corrupt and the U.S. needed to force the afghan republic to reform its military and government structure in order ti have more support and a proper military that can hold its own. Taliban never beaten the americans, but just sat in Pakistan and waited them out. The doha agreement gave them a chance to take over the country because america and the Taliban made a deal to take stop fighting each other, which means no air support for the ANA. Which caused the ANA to start collasping and the taliban move forward while america was pulling out. The equipment left behind were for the ANA and it makes no sense for america to return the shit already given to the ANA. All the equipment that cannot be taken home were sabotaged.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The ANA didn’t even exist. It was away for Americans to hide their actual casualty rates by reporting them as ANA and a neat way for congressmen and defense contractors to move around money.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            moron, there is no way they can hide that many losses. The taliban are that much of a shit fighter that they just shifted towards doing operations against ANA forces because of how inept they are. Attacking americans for the taliban is essentially a death wish because they have eyes everywhere.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/YwofpTt.jpg

        [...]

        The US was trying to nation-build in Afghanistan. Note the GDP, human development index, maternal mortality, and population density all improved during the American occupation. Contrast that to what happened when the Soviets invaded (all those same markers were likely worsened).

        [...]
        Afghanistan was not a loss in terms of military operations. It was quite a success with the taliban being effectively suppressed in the early 2010s when troop presence was at its peak. The only problem was setting up a nation that can hold itself, which is a big problem with Afghanistan. America stopped doing ground operations against the taliban in 2014 and shifted towards training the ANA and providing them with limited support in the air. That was not enough because the ANA was corrupt and the U.S. needed to force the afghan republic to reform its military and government structure in order ti have more support and a proper military that can hold its own. Taliban never beaten the americans, but just sat in Pakistan and waited them out. The doha agreement gave them a chance to take over the country because america and the Taliban made a deal to take stop fighting each other, which means no air support for the ANA. Which caused the ANA to start collasping and the taliban move forward while america was pulling out. The equipment left behind were for the ANA and it makes no sense for america to return the shit already given to the ANA. All the equipment that cannot be taken home were sabotaged.

        Afghanistan was an american loss. The US spent 2 trillion USD and lost more than 2000 people for what exactly? 2 decades of controlling some opium fields? Keeping the "terrorists" at bay that were goat farmers more than 15000 miles away from the US? But wow, you used all that money and defeated a military that had not even 1% of the budget, manpower and industrial capacity behind it that the US did. Meanwhile the Taliban are back to beating their wives and the chinese are getting access to its lithium deposits. All the while after being handed millions and millions of american military equipment and getting free infrastructure built during the past 2 decades.

        No amount of copium turns this into a win. Winning a battle against goat farmers is meaningless when it comes at this steep a cost.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          see in you in a year when the first halal pizza hut opens

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/oLtOnpD.jpg

            >picrel
            It's totally a win.

            > Also, frick Pakistan in particular.

            Doesn't fricking matter. 2 trillion USD for the satisfaction of watching a guy who killed americans struggle at a 9-5 job. Who is probably in charge of collecting export duties from all the lithium he's selling to china.

            It was a shitshow and nation building is stupid but lmao at
            >2k losses
            >in twenty years
            Those are almost miraculously low numbers and do not make the US look weak

            What the frick is this copium. 2000 people died for NOTHING. ten times that number got wounded for nothing. The US didn't get rich of aghanistan, the US didn't get powerful off of aghanistan, the US didn't even get run interference for actual strategic adversaries like china or russia.

            You can do your mental gymnastics all you like, but afghanistan was an incredible waste of money and manpower. I know it's not a lot of zeros, but damn, those are 2000 american families whose sons, brothers and fathers aren't coming home. And their sacrifice was in absolute vain. It's fricking sad.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Money well spent.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Your tourism is showing hard as is your agenda. 2k dead over two decades is nothing. Especially when you compare it to anything comparable like the first or second Chechen wars, or the Soviet Afghan war.
              It’s incredible to act like I’m some kind of shill when this was in the same post as me saying the nation building was completely moronic and a failure. You “people” are completely incapable of assessing the various sides of any issue

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >2000 people died for NOTHING
              3800 burgers die every month in car accidents, sweetie.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but usually their families need to get new cars anyways so it subsidizes the automotive industry.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah and these 2000 deaths subsidized the MIC for 20 years.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Touché

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >picrel
          It's totally a win.

          > Also, frick Pakistan in particular.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It was a shitshow and nation building is stupid but lmao at
          >2k losses
          >in twenty years
          Those are almost miraculously low numbers and do not make the US look weak

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >20 years
          >2,000 lost
          >al-Qaeda leaders that were responsible for 9/11 dead
          >the taliban making concessions about not working with the Taliban anymore
          Yea, its a win, especially in terms of military. 2,000 losses in 20 years is fricking nothing and the main goal in Afghanistan wasn't to keep the Taliban out. Because if it was, the U.S. wouldn't have stopped all major ground operations against them in 2014. The main goal was to keep al-Qaeda away, which worked.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          How did people misinterpret our goal in Afghanistan? The goal wasn't to remove the taliban, the goal was to find and destroy al-Qaeda leadership and campsites. The taliban just got caught in the crossfire because they were aiding in protecting al-Qaeda leaders that were responsible for 9/11. Nation building Afghanistan was a second thought because america cannot leave a country destroyed and they spent decades in nation building while focusing on efforts of hunting down al-Qaeda members and their taliban collaborators.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The price of being the best.

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Remind me not to frick with the US

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Reminder: Don't. Frick. With. The. U.S.

      > you're welcome

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's actually set for a March 9th release anon

    https://insidedefense.com/daily-news/dod-budget-be-released-march-9-without-detailed-program-information

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3837346-white-house-to-release-budget-proposal-on-march-9/

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Says the release on the 9th likely wont contain all programmatic information.

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The America that Metal Gear envisioned.

    Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg… and my arm… even my fingers. The body I’ve lost… the comrades I’ve lost… won’t stop hurting… It’s like they’re all still there. You feel it, too, don’t you?

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I like this thread. Do the Bongs, Aussies or Leafs release similar data?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Only the US

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Based. I like how shills don’t even bother entering these threads

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw you've had to suffer USAF procurement documents and they're laid out in this awful style
    I'm having flashbacks. All that money, the best materiel in the world, the most powerful military in any sphere you care to name... and the branding of a second rate agricultural supplier from 2006. Times new roman? drop shadows? fricking justified text!? God help us all if they ever release a document that doesn't look like it was designed 30 years ago, then we'll know America is bloody thinking seriously.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You sound like a metro sexual homosexual.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The word 'metrosexual' usually refers to a straight guy with gay affectations. A 'metrosexual homosexual' is thus a contradiction, or 'oxymoron'.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Your existence is an oxymoron, homosexual.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >aaaa muh graphic design
      It's for cucks. Real men use Times New Roman on black and white slides.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Times new roman on black and white slides is graphic design anon. You have aeshetic considerations and are influenced by them. You just have poor taste if you think USDoD's choices aren't ugly, and a liar if you think justified text is easy to read.

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I for one welcome our new 6.8x51 SIG overlords.

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    personally I like government transparency
    but where do we learn about the secret procurements?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The Drive actually has a decent military section, it's called The War Zone and has been pumping out interesting pieces about secret stuff for years.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      We can't discuss that on internet, let's meet up in the motel. By the way, how healthy are your kidneys?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Hard to say, we know from 2013 snowden shit that the US intelligence apparatus was operating on about ~$50B/year in various black budget projects.

      I think it was estimated in 2009 the DoD black budget was ~$50B.

      And according to a few articles in 2018 Trump requested a black budget increase to ~$80B which included ~$60B for the national intelligence program and then ~$22B for military intelligence programs.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >$60B for the national intelligence program
        eeeh....

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The majority of this is NTM platforms (satellites).
        >t. knower

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't worry about it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The number of national security launches has gone up a lot and they’re very open about their long term plans for US military satellite infrastructure. Can’t find the image but tl;dr
      >megaconstellations of varied types of satellites to communicate, observe, and intercept with lots of redundancy and coverage and the capabilities to rapidly rebuild it after a strike on it
      The US really wants a perfect ballistic missile defense system to end MAD, though no one is certain such a thing is even possible

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Thank god Falcon9, Falcon Heavy, and hopefully eventually Starship are available for these launches at a fraction of what they'd cost just a decade ago.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        MAD was never a thing, push comes to shove it was always a preemptive first strike with the goal of eliminating whoever's ability to launch nukes.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah and the point for both sides is to guarantee a second strike capability that would inflict unacceptable loses. Or at least to curate an unacceptable probability or untenable uncertainty, or the perception of one in the political landscape
          The holy grail for USSF is to end that uncertainty by creating a perfect system of detection and interception. And like a quest for the holy grail, plenty of people think it’s a pipe dream

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >doesn't know what MAD is
          >tries to lecture a weapon's board about its non-existence
          I'll just bet that (You) have all sorts of books and charts and graphs and links to web pages that explain that all in crystalline clear detail.

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Thread theme:

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A fifth of this was actually procured, half of that had already been stripped of all of its copper wire by officers so they can purchase fentanyl. Why do we take your armed forces seriously again when you haven’t won a war since the US-Mexican war again?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine how powerful a fairy tale like this could be if any of it, even one word, was backed up by anything in reality-based facts.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Hate to break it to you but you may be living in the reality bubble. Only a little over an 8th of the world’s population is under sway of the US and her puppets. You may have the skewed perspective.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          False. Anyone not under American control is ontologically non-human

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It might surprise you, but America can actually deliver on what it claims it can do militarily. The fraud is significantly overpaying for what you get. Shocking concept to some “people” I know

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        At least corruption in our MIC just means overbilling the customer and passing the burden to the taxpayer while still getting genuinely good stuff.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That’s what I meant. It sucks, but compared to military corruption elsewhere I’d say it’s pretty good

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fells comfy knowing that the Us bought exactly what it said it would. No more and certainly no less. There’s something about checks and balances that get me rock hard

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Great thread OP

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Great thread, OP.

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you for not being a homosexual. Love from

    [...]

    . No homo.

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    weapons procurement?

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    off topic concern troll
    reply to him again and you're a certified moron

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What? I'm beginning to think maybe he was right and that you are a schizo that needs to take his meds. In the meantime I will be writing letters and calling all congressional offices to demand that they increase purchases of Lockheed Martin's F35, and there's nothing you can do to stop me. Seethe more you Russian and get btfo more in Ukraine. Slava Ukrani!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What? I'm literally just talking about the F35 and how we should purchase more. MIC conspiracy theories are evil cartoon character-tier nonsense. I don't understand why everyone else in here is so upset about us purchasing so many F35's. Personally I think at least half of our air force jets should be F35's by law, they're literally the most advanced and literally the best planes in the world right now.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you have webm's of a literally israeli actress girl wearing that? Is it leftover material from one of your shill threads on /misc/ spamming porn and "khazar milker" memes? Pretty weird that israelites are so obsessed with porn and unhealthy fetishizations. You should bring this up at your next psychiatrist appointment.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          what's wrong with israeli girls, friend? they're cute. look at that girl and tell me you wouldn't cuddle with her while watching a movie with friends. god maybe you'd even hold hands.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >w-why don't you lust after hooknoses? look at this israeliteess actress that was BLEACHED and is at least half white if not more, that's how they all look!

            Why are you so obsessed with israelites and constantly bringing them up? kek did you fall for /misc/ talking points

            >w-why do you keep pointing us out! y-you're obsessed with us! here's some more porn spam and israeliteess "khazar milker" girls!
            Kek. Why do israelites always pretend to not be israelites, and then eventually concede they are in fact israelite posters but that you're mentally ill for knowing it the entire time and noticing them playing their israeli games. Sad!

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I’m not israeli and I don’t ever think about israelites. You keep talking about them though

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                As a white non-Christian I've been called a israelite my entire life (mostly because fly-over white kids can't fathom someone not religious, so if I'm not Christian I HAVE to be a israelite)

                You're never gonna convince a moron like that you're not israeli, even if you had 1000 years of your family tree traced and verified he'd still insinuate you MUST have some israeli ancestors and you just haven't gone back far enough to find them.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                As a non-white Christian that is of middle-eastern descent living in America, I've had a few of these racists confront me before on here about being israeli. They don't seem to understand that although Christianity is an Abrahamic religion, and that Abrahamic religion originates with Judaism, that Christianity is not in fact israeli. I've tried pointing this out but they continue to ridicule and dismiss any talk that doesn't "admit" to israeli influence and control. The fact that my first name is also literally from the Old Testament doesn't help when trying to dissuade these disgusting anti-semitic and xenophobic racists from their ways.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Pro tip
                No1curr

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Standard reply from the standard schizo anti-semitic anti-judeo christian poster. I hope Jesus finds you, anon.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This is the guy upset about the f35 procurement and also seething about the israelites

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Agreed. Why is this guy so obsessed with israelites and his literal cartoon villain schizo image of them? Every time I post, people harass me as being a israelite, and then when I admit that I'm a israelite they just double down and harass me even more. He needs to take his meds and get mental treatment for his israelite obsession. I don't understand what the FRICK his problem is.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This is the guy upset at the f35 procurement and seething about israelites

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I saw this post before once. Why would someone pretend to be someone and something they aren't, even on the internet of all places, and pretend to be other races of people? Who does that shit, you literal schizo?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >what's wrong with israeli girls, friend?
            Dude…really?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Why are you so obsessed with israelites and constantly bringing them up? kek did you fall for /misc/ talking points

  61. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This dude really hates America lol

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I love these threads because it always brings out the most salty foreigners. The smarter shills avoid these threads like the plague

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Note how he derailed a conversation about Chinese interference

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Note how as soon as the one anon brought up the procurement and wasteful spending on such a useless hyped aircraft as the F35, all the MIC israelites immediately began to sperg in the thread. I think Chinese interference is an issue in Canada, as is all non-Canadian interference in Canada, particularly that of western international israelites. What are your opinions on this, anon?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You’ve still not explained what’s fricking wrong with f-35s? And why do you like chinooks?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >useless hyped aircraft as the F35
            mind explaining what makes it useless?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              He doesn't know why, he just knows that it is.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Based knower that doesn't fall for all the traps and pits of useless arguing with israelite shills that will just copy-paste technical specs as always that they themselves don't even understand. Pretty wise of that anon to just know instead and simply understand the superiority of every other fighter jet and aircraft in the American air force such as the F15/F16 and the ever-great F22.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Right. Back on topic for the final solution to the Chinese question.

          Time is also their enemy because of an even worse demographic time bomb than the west has. The one child policy fricked them even though it was need a long time ago

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            China and the west are both in a weird situation. Neither of them want war in the immediate future because both are unprepared for a near-peer conflict. China has spend the last decade trying to modernise to mixed success and they’re very open about the fact that they still haven’t met their goal of mechanising yet. Meanwhile the US has only recently been able to shift gears but it’s rearming for near-peer war with China specifically with much more vigour, focus and long-term vision. However the US navy is the exception having some pretty serious problems in procurement (tale as old as the USN). China, however, believes that on a long curve they can out-produce the US. Once they’ve got carriers and jets “figured out” along with other key technologies they can simply build a frickload and focus their forces for LOCAL dominance while the US has to have GLOBAL dominance (or SUPERGLOBAL if you’re a USSF wanker). This is the Chinese thinking, anyway
            The goal of both parties is to short term prevent war while getting up to speed, and then the moment they’re in a position where they’re stronger than the other to a strong degree of confidence, they want to instigate conflict on their term before the others current rearmament/modernisation program is complete. It’s worth noting that this calculation includes Japanese force restructuring, australia procurement and force restricting projects, some South Korean developments and the completion of bases in the Phillipines and possibly a modernising of the Phillipines armed forces, along with several other less significant forces like Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. I leave out India because I think both the west and China see them as unreliable, dysfunctional militarily and moronic.
            This is why I personally don’t think there will be war between them in the 2020s. I think it’ll be 2035-2045 ish. But it will 100% certain happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Right? What the FRICK is his problem? If he were really a red, white, and blue America-loving patriot, he would be writing all of the congressional offices in both the Senate and House about this outrage that such few F35's were purchased. Lockheed Martin needs more purchases and more funding so they can make more of these beautiful perfect aircraft. I don't understand why we even waste so much time and money purchasing aircraft that were developed 50 years ago if the F35 is so amazing!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You’re the guy upset about the f35 purchases LARPing as the cartoon character MIC villain in your mind

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It’s cute when 3rd worlders try to act human

  62. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This is true. I go for women instead now, rather than girls. I understand that this can be confusing to israelites, seeing as they are widely well known for their sick, criminal, and mentally ill pedophilic sexual interests in little girls.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      mhmm

  63. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Anon, why do you as a israelite keep spamming fetishization video and pornographic images? Why is this behavior so common among israelite posters on this website, and why does their seem to be such a disproportionate and high number of israelite posters on this website?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      why did you take posts on /misc/ and use them to form your world view?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Why are you talking about /misc/? This is /k/. Also, why do you keep posting images known to be used by israelite shills on /misc/? This is all highly irregular.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          the way you're posting you seem to think this is /misc/.

  64. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is he just gonna sit here for hours replying to every post?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      We can only hope

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Probably. He's literally deranged. His rampant anti-semitism and harassing of israeli posters in this thread alone is utterly disgusting. I can only imagine how much this this /misc/ack harasses our people on all the other boards with his anti-semitic schizo conspiracy theories.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This is the guy upset about the f35 procurement and also seething about the israelites

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Name one thing bad about the F35 and criticize the Chinese government about one thing

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The project management has been a shitshow, the F-35B complicates everything and i pray for the day that Beijing gets cleansed by nuclear hellfire

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            kek he’s mad that with the f35B the US gained 11 light aircraft carriers overnight

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >F-35B
            Agree and disagree. It was totally necessary to make a vtol carrier aircraft and the F-35B is based. It also fricked the whole program bad and that’s why now the DoD is making the navy and the Air Force run separate procurement programs

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >project management has been a shitshow,
            That’s not a criticism of the F35 and it’s performance. That’s a criticism of bureaucracy

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