I'm watching this kind of retarded film called Landmine Goes Click. The conceit of the film is that a guy stepped on a landine and can't move. Can someone run me through how landmines work and why they can't put the pin back in to disarm it?
I'm watching this kind of retarded film called Landmine Goes Click.
imagine how a bullet works with the primer detonating the charge inside. pressure activated landmines work the same way. there is no "oh i can't move now that I stepped on the mine". the charge detonates and that's it
Wait so the guy should've died the second he stepped on it? Although they did it was a german S mine if that makes a difference
>incorrect US propaganda
Shouldn't that say inaccurate US training material? Also "propagated by... propaganda"?
You step on landmine, landmine explodes, there's no delay
Can't put a pin back in because that would be like putting the pin back in a frag after you let go of the spoon.
Not always true. There were plenty of mines that detonated after stepoff.
The idea is they would then also have a timer and detonate behind the initial sentry, killing people in the middle of the group.
But you are correct in that most nowadays are just initial pressure trigger or timed after initial pressure.
>Not always true. There were plenty of mines that detonated after stepoff.
List a few.
You have got to be retarded, there is no "singular mine" that does it because nearly all mines could swap out their triggers
http://tgrm.foxed.ca/boobytraps/Britishbt/Britishbt.html
>Trip Mechanism No. 5 Pressure/Release
>This mechanism operated on the ball release principle. It could be operated by a direct downward pressure, release of pressure, or by a twist applied by means of a trip wire.
Please shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about
Maybe post a link to one of these mine fuses then?
A booby trap fuse is something different and not relevant to the conversation.
>These mines don't count, b-because ok?
Literally have a nice day.
Off the top of my head bounding fragmentation (bouncing Bettys) mines are designed for step off because they have to hit waist height, and if they fly up into your foot they're not going to do that.
I'm sure there are more examples but I know for certain they exist places other than myth.
They aren't though.
Bouncing Betty's have a delay element. Once that is burnt through the mine will launch, even if it has to push you to the side.
Nope.
The delay element in a BouncingBetty is to set the height above ground that it detonates AFTER it had launched itself upwards.
Take a look at the original.
See the delay charge? It was there so the leading man would continue on and the whole squad would be targeted.
The delay element is ABOVE the lifting charge, RETARD, it is ignited as the mine body is lifted and burns through as it rises to the designed height, then initiates the main charge.
Look closer idiot.
There are two short delays for timing the height.
There is a long delay between the fuse and the lift charge to set the time between triggering and lift.
The delay still isnt the 'Hollywood meme', it fires whether the guy steps off or not.
Standing on it waiting to put the pin back in etc just means standing there while it fires the mine up through your foot
>the original
Thats not the original, thats the US false delay version.
The actual german original only has the Verzoserung delays in the side chambers, not in the central channel from the fuze to the propelling charge.
The American M16 was copy of the German mine. Right down to the ~4 second delay. Easy to see on the drawings and easy to research if you care to.
Boobytrap switches do NOT include a delay element.
Switches used as pressure-release do NOT function after stepping-off, they are set with and existing weight (usually an attractive item likely to be picked up) and function instantaneously as soon as the 'booby' lifts the weight off the switch.
what is the function of the prongs? Another way to set of the mine?
You can tie wires to them to cover a bigger area.
The prongs give the ability to camouflage the pressure switch or mine-fuze under loose soil or dust so only the thin tips protrude, making it harder to detect visually.
The delays only activate by the functioning of the lifting charge, so the mine has already started rising as they commence burning.
So, the mine has already functioned instantaneously on being stepped on
>feel free to proceed directly to the "hurrdurr only pretending" stage
So how does the fuse fire through the 4-1/2 second delay pellet without being delayed?
EODfag
There is NO anti-personnel mine that 'waits' until the victim steps off.
As
, it came from incorrect training how the S-mine had a delay while the lifting charge raised the mine body up to functioning height.
They all function instantaneously.
>the guy who steps on an S-mine, M2 or M16A1 "BouncingBetty" often survived with a shattered leg as the mine being launched upwards broke his leg and threw him on his ass before the main charge fired, fragging the guys around him who were still standing.
There are 'second-impact' anti-tank mines that arm on the first strike and detonate on the second impact, but they are rare, and specifically designed to defeat mine-flails and mine-rollers then detonate under the tank pushing the clearing device. And they need greater pressure than a normal weight foot to function.
So, theoretically, if you weighed about 150kg and were stomping around, you can step on an AT Mine Fuze and arm it, then step off... but it won't then explode until you stomp on it again.
>if you weighed about 150kg
If you weighed around 90kg and carried 60kg (or more) of gear on you then couldn't you technically trigger an AT mine on foot? Have they accounted for this with newer mines?
OK its literally part of the plot that real landmines blow up thus meaning this was a fake
I wonder if there is ANY type of mine that work like in the movies?
ANY mine at all?
They detonate immediately upon being triggered or can be double trigger(arm, fire) so they go off when the target is on top of it. There is no scenario where a mine does not go off after triggered, you cant hold your foot on it, you cant "put the pin back in" because there is no pin. This is a stupid TV trope, just like suppressed guns sounding like squeeky toys or being totally silent.
what do you gain from mass replying such a stupid fucking post
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Thanks for yours
You are thinking of Mine and if you watched the fucking movie you would realize he did step on a landmine.
Bouncing Betty, but big :DDD
Too bad it likely won't make it to Ukraine.