Im thinking about switching careers to become a fireman. Anything I should know beforehand?

I’m thinking about switching careers to become a fireman. Anything I should know beforehand?

Asking here bc I was told there’s a lot of policemen here that may know firefighters.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hi, career fireman of 5 years in a big city in Canada, ask away. Where are you located?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Southeast United States. I guess first off just no bullshit, what parts of the job do you hate the most? And if given the chance to do it all over again would you?

      It's a good gig. A lot of departments may require you to become a paramedic to be a competitive candidate. All of them that I'm aware will require you to be at least an EMT, but EMTs are a dime a dozen, so if that's all the experience or education you have in a related field, you aren't likely to get hired. Every department is different though, you might ne able to walk in off the street and have them run through an in house course for both your FF and EMT certification.

      I’m not positive but my nearby city that’s hiring new fire fighters doesn’t even say that they’re requiring emt licenses. Explicitly says no experience needed. I come from a completely unrelated IT background.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some departments (mostly major cities) are so understaffed, they are now foregoing the EMT requirement for a pre-hire check and are instead incorporating EMT training into their fire academy. Your jurisdiction may be like that.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm guessing thats not a good thing lol.

          Also yeah that most likely the case. Its one of the fastest growing cities in the country so I doubt they can keep up with the new trouble.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not necessarily a bad thing either, it means you will be far busier than in a fully staffed department and that just makes the day go by faster. Much less time to frick around of course, but you gain experience quicker and could always transfer to some much smaller department that wouldn't mind picking up an experienced fireman.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hey I'm this guy

        Hi, career fireman of 5 years in a big city in Canada, ask away. Where are you located?

        Not really sure how it works in the USA but it's a pretty cozy job here with good pay and benefits. My firehouse if pretty average in terms of call, around 2200 calls per year but I have worked in fire houses with over 4000 calls per year

        Things I hate the most? In no particular order:

        >lots of bullshit EMS calls where there was absolutely no need for us, gets tiring real quick
        >we pay more and more attention to our health and cancer prevention but we are *lightyears* behind europe. And our department is considered quite progressive
        >sometimes, there's just no chemistry with you and the team. My probie year was hard but now I've been with the same gang for 4 years and love it
        >so much freetime that my gf just can't keep up with me for activities and vacations

        But I consider most of these things to be pretty minor. I love my job and honestly, it's the prefect NEET life. Everyone loves you, well paid, cooking/gym/gaming at the firehouse, so much freetime I just game/gym/bike all day. I was hired just shy of my 26th birthday and if I were to do it again, I would have joined as soon as possible at 17 y/o

        What’s the most tragic thing you’ve seen?

        Thankfully, I never had anything too traumatizing but here are some stories of my friends and colleagues

        >girl gets hit by train. Everyone thinks it's just a body recovery mission. Girl is still fricking alive
        >1 y/o baby unresponsive and turned blue because he choked himself with a toy
        >guy had his leg (from under the knee) chopped off by the ex of his gf
        >guy fills his interior compartment with gas, drives to a nearby harbor, explodes. Friend try to rescue him, he was still alive with his skin falling off like chicken

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks for the info anon! Just a few other questions I thought of

          >What sort of people have your comrades mostly been? Chads? Blue collar guys? Normies? Fellow autists?

          >How much does getting woken up in the middle of the night constantly frick with you?

          >What kind of schedule do you run? 24/48?

          >Do you get vacation days?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hey anon I'm

            Hey I'm this guy [...]
            Not really sure how it works in the USA but it's a pretty cozy job here with good pay and benefits. My firehouse if pretty average in terms of call, around 2200 calls per year but I have worked in fire houses with over 4000 calls per year

            Things I hate the most? In no particular order:

            >lots of bullshit EMS calls where there was absolutely no need for us, gets tiring real quick
            >we pay more and more attention to our health and cancer prevention but we are *lightyears* behind europe. And our department is considered quite progressive
            >sometimes, there's just no chemistry with you and the team. My probie year was hard but now I've been with the same gang for 4 years and love it
            >so much freetime that my gf just can't keep up with me for activities and vacations

            But I consider most of these things to be pretty minor. I love my job and honestly, it's the prefect NEET life. Everyone loves you, well paid, cooking/gym/gaming at the firehouse, so much freetime I just game/gym/bike all day. I was hired just shy of my 26th birthday and if I were to do it again, I would have joined as soon as possible at 17 y/o

            [...]
            Thankfully, I never had anything too traumatizing but here are some stories of my friends and colleagues

            >girl gets hit by train. Everyone thinks it's just a body recovery mission. Girl is still fricking alive
            >1 y/o baby unresponsive and turned blue because he choked himself with a toy
            >guy had his leg (from under the knee) chopped off by the ex of his gf
            >guy fills his interior compartment with gas, drives to a nearby harbor, explodes. Friend try to rescue him, he was still alive with his skin falling off like chicken

            >What sort of people have your comrades mostly been? Chads? Blue collar guys? Normies? Fellow autists?
            It's very varied. I'd say the older guys are a lot more blue collars than younger ones. You got chads too but you also have loners/autistics firemen too. To give you an idea, here's my team:

            >40 y/o captain than wants to be chief, pretty vanilla and tame but hates the woke movement
            >38 y/o lieutenant, an excessive autist. Everything he did in life is in excess and for performance. He likes to workout A LOT. He did a full marathon after not sleeping for a whole 24h shift. Super nice but very intense
            >56 y/o engine driver, close to retirement but still stays for fun. He used to be a rafting/extreme sports guide in BC. Has worked with Justin Trudeau and says he's an insufferable butthole. Cooks and he's pretty smooth
            >45 y/o ladder driver, the more sensitive one in the group. He's more into real estate (like lots of firemen) and has a sailboat
            >29 y/o mixed asian guy, normie with rich parents and gf so he doesn't have a sideline (aside from having a cookie business?),
            >30 y/o normie guy, nothing too special about him but loves anime and playing on the Switch
            >me 30 y/o autist, work at my family's bakery, used to also work as emergency dispatcher,
            >34 y/o big buff autist, he's my bro/work wife, I think he's also a channer, turbo racist and hates women but not unironically, works at another fire department too

            1/2

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Has worked with Justin Trudeau and says he's an insufferable butthole

              Does that come as a surprise to anyone?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >he's my bro/work wife
              >bro
              >work wife
              Are you moronic or just a gay?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            2/2
            >How much does getting woken up in the middle of the night constantly frick with you?
            Like I said before, our firehouse is not that busy so i'd say 1/4 nights we have no calls past 10pm, 1/2 we have a call, 1/4 we have more than one. It's not that bad but I often take a nap after my shifts. Other firehouses go out a lot more often and yes it can have an impact on you if you are a heavy sleeper like me. We have 3 guys with CPAP machines in our team

            >What kind of schedule do you run? 24/48?
            7x24h per cycle of 28 days. Here's a sample:
            Week 1: Friday/sunday
            Week 2: Wednesday/satuday
            Week 3: Tuesday
            Week 4: Monday/thursday

            >Do you get vacation days?
            Yes I have 5 weeks this year but as you have seen in my schedule, I get 1 week off every month too. I can also do shift exchanges and stretch it even longer. Right now I have the whole month of march off so I live the perfect NEET life

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Holy shit that time off is amazing. Kinda doubtful it’ll be as good in an American city though.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                American firefighter working for a small Midwestern city. The time off is as good as that guy describes. 24 on and 48 off with 5 days off in a row every month or so. Plus some flexibility with vacation days, shift trades, and time off earned through overtime hours. I'm making more now than I ever could have using my biology degree. The time off and downtime is a blessing but don't join thinking you won't have to work. You'll need to have strong work ethic when you get woken up for the fourth time in one night to go investigate a gas leak, or to be disciplined enough to stay current on your EMS skills so that when you know what to do when you get a call for an unresponsive child.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I work for a medium large city in the southeast US. We run a kelly shift, 24 on 24 off for 3 days then get 4 days off. Its a good job that pays decent and gives decent benefits.

                The anon that said its a crabs in a bucket mentality is absolutely right. If you dont buy in to the bullshit, be prepared to be kept at a distance by most guys you work with that have firefighting as their sole identity.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          EMS/Fire is full of sad workaholics who crab bucket you into acting exactly like them. honestly if you're the kind of person who is attracted to PrepHole (a weirdo loner) you might not enjoy the culture.

          also depending on your city you may not see much fire action, it will be 90% old people or druggies. If you are cool with all of that its a perfectly viable career, just don't turn into a jaded piece of shit in your first month.

          Why combine medical rescue services with firefighting? I understand the benefit of having the training, but in my country in europe it is seperated. Firefighters fight fires and EMS guys do medical stuff. Of course there is some overlap with getting people out of cars etc. but if somebody collapses on the street there is no need for firefighters.
          Am I misunderstanding sth?

          Also about not becoming jaded, I am in my last year of nursing school and ai have decided to try out the operating theater. Can‘t stand the lack of personnel etc on wards and then additionally having to deal with people that should know better and being asses or willfully ignorant. OP is clean and people can‘t threaten you when they are sedated.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            because there are no fires. I'm a firefighter and so I know. In order to keep the charade going we need to do other stuff. Maybe general public is dumb but managers ain't.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              the need for fire and EMS frequently overlap and it is generally pretty efficient to have them cross trained since firefighters are fairly seldom used depending on the location. That way you dont have most of your fire personnel totally idle most of the week. The odd smoke investigation, car crash needing extrication gear, fire alarm, ect comes through once in a while but most of the time you have a fire you need EMS anyways too (smoke inhalation, evaluations for car crash patients, etc)

              I guess, most firemen are village/town based volunteers except for big cities. Thanks.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the need for fire and EMS frequently overlap and it is generally pretty efficient to have them cross trained since firefighters are fairly seldom used depending on the location. That way you dont have most of your fire personnel totally idle most of the week. The odd smoke investigation, car crash needing extrication gear, fire alarm, ect comes through once in a while but most of the time you have a fire you need EMS anyways too (smoke inhalation, evaluations for car crash patients, etc)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What’s the most tragic thing you’ve seen?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your mom

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        My grandfather worked as a firefighter all his life, had a few horror stories.
        >dragged bloated corpses out from under frozen rivers after they'd been in there most of winter every year around spring
        >had to pull the mangled corpses of a family out of a crashed cessna at the air port
        >dealt with a LOT of really bad car crashes
        >worked back when they used to ride on the side of the fire engine to ever fire, had to deal with the accident that brought about the end of that practice for the city dept.
        The upside, the jokes you see about lonely women putting in calls to try and get someone to show up and frick their brains out were 100% real, at least they were when he worked.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a good gig. A lot of departments may require you to become a paramedic to be a competitive candidate. All of them that I'm aware will require you to be at least an EMT, but EMTs are a dime a dozen, so if that's all the experience or education you have in a related field, you aren't likely to get hired. Every department is different though, you might ne able to walk in off the street and have them run through an in house course for both your FF and EMT certification.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only thing that comes to mind besides the obvious risk is a lot of firefighters are coming down with cancer from the fireproofing chemicals in their suits, I don't know if they've got that sorted out yet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      PFAS is the chemical group you are thinking of. While it has been mostly phased out of foam, you are correct in that it is found in "Bunker Gear". I think last I heard about the issue is it currently being taken to court between the manufacturing companies and regulatory groups. Your department will will test you for it but you wont be able to avoid exposure to it.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lots of firemen blogs on youtube

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Worked as a recruiter for an FD and workign with firefighters has led me to hate them. You know the "don't learn chinese" copypasta? It's basically that.

      The extreme vast majority of FDs in the US are volunteer, so there's not many paying jobs and those that are are fairly competitive, unless you're willing to move to wherever the job is. Would recommend starting with wildfire fighting as there is always paying job there and you get instant paid experience. Structural fire is considered a nearly completely different discipline but that's where the more prestigious jobs are with your type 1 engines.

      Sidenote, firemen tend to be b***hy divas with mustaches, they constantly complain about not being rewarded enough, even when their job is 90% sitting around and waiting for a relevant call while playing xbox and working out. If you work in a big (blue) city, you will instead spend the vast majority of your time administering narcan to junkies or hosing out their burnt tents.

      Yes, this shows how little they actually do.

      Hey I'm this guy [...]
      Not really sure how it works in the USA but it's a pretty cozy job here with good pay and benefits. My firehouse if pretty average in terms of call, around 2200 calls per year but I have worked in fire houses with over 4000 calls per year

      Things I hate the most? In no particular order:

      >lots of bullshit EMS calls where there was absolutely no need for us, gets tiring real quick
      >we pay more and more attention to our health and cancer prevention but we are *lightyears* behind europe. And our department is considered quite progressive
      >sometimes, there's just no chemistry with you and the team. My probie year was hard but now I've been with the same gang for 4 years and love it
      >so much freetime that my gf just can't keep up with me for activities and vacations

      But I consider most of these things to be pretty minor. I love my job and honestly, it's the prefect NEET life. Everyone loves you, well paid, cooking/gym/gaming at the firehouse, so much freetime I just game/gym/bike all day. I was hired just shy of my 26th birthday and if I were to do it again, I would have joined as soon as possible at 17 y/o

      [...]
      Thankfully, I never had anything too traumatizing but here are some stories of my friends and colleagues

      >girl gets hit by train. Everyone thinks it's just a body recovery mission. Girl is still fricking alive
      >1 y/o baby unresponsive and turned blue because he choked himself with a toy
      >guy had his leg (from under the knee) chopped off by the ex of his gf
      >guy fills his interior compartment with gas, drives to a nearby harbor, explodes. Friend try to rescue him, he was still alive with his skin falling off like chicken

      >it's the perfect NEET life
      this is pretty much true. You do jack shit and get sucked off by society for doing it.

      I have a friend who recently became one. Apparently it’s sorority house-level drama inside some of those fire stations.

      correct

      >Anything I should know beforehand?
      1. Become as arrogant as possible
      2. Start working on developing a potbelly
      3.Grow a gay mustache
      4. Start training your hair into a mullet
      5. Walk around with a false sense of confidence
      6. Get good at taking pipe
      7. Lastly...when you go work out at the gym with your bunk mates, make sure your walkie is turned up so that every beep/update is heard throughout the gym - nobody can forget that "HE'S A FIREMAN"

      accurate

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    fireman sounds like a another way to say arsonist.
    are you trying to learn what tactics firefighters use?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon… do you believe that arsonists directly combat firefighters?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes, in my head atleast
        sound more exciting

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ok, that does sound cooler.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Go to bed satan

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I like this idea. I will be taking applications for a /k/rack team of /k/ommandos armed with Dragon's Breath shotgun rounds, thermite and a shitload of gasoline. No fatties.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean the fire department does have people who investigate fires to find the cause and determine if it's arson. So they kind of do.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a different anon but I may as well ask here. You guys think I could become I cop if I have self-harm scars? The army rejected me but I'm big, in good shape and not a moronic. Worth a shot?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    EMS/Fire is full of sad workaholics who crab bucket you into acting exactly like them. honestly if you're the kind of person who is attracted to PrepHole (a weirdo loner) you might not enjoy the culture.

    also depending on your city you may not see much fire action, it will be 90% old people or druggies. If you are cool with all of that its a perfectly viable career, just don't turn into a jaded piece of shit in your first month.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Anything I should know beforehand?
    It gets quite hot.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone likes firefighters so you got that going for you

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it true that people decided that it's reasonable and ok to shoot at firefighters and medics?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Different fireanon here, it's relatively uncommon. In the recent shooting of a fire medic, he was acting as a SWAT medic, so he was moreso targeted for being dressed like SWAT. My department also has a SWAT medic program, but I can't remember the last time one of our guys was attacked unprovoked and in cold blood just for being a first responder. It's pretty safe overall as a profession, as opposed to, say, logging.

      Southeast United States. I guess first off just no bullshit, what parts of the job do you hate the most? And if given the chance to do it all over again would you?
      [...]
      I’m not positive but my nearby city that’s hiring new fire fighters doesn’t even say that they’re requiring emt licenses. Explicitly says no experience needed. I come from a completely unrelated IT background.

      One huge downside fireleaf mentioned though sticks out, your crew and officer make or break your experience in the profession, and you have very little control over this depending on the department. My first station made me want to suckstart a shotgun, whereas my current crew are an amazing group of people I spend time with outside of work. It's very hit-or-miss, and the job can attract many toxic personalities, so be warned.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can definitely see the crew sucking making the whole experience shit since you have to spend so much time with them. Just out of curiosity would you be willing to go into more detail about how your first crew? What about them was toxic?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can't totally tear them down, as they were comparatively nice aside from one, but they were all career veterans who were "tapped out", and spent most of the shift alone and were hard to engage with. We did very little training in our downtime, as no one wanted to or felt the need, and it became evident on working incidents. My first "real" fire, where a brick storefront actually exploded 30ft from us, there was no direction or leadership, and our response was chaotic until other more squared-away crews arrived. My EMS field trainer was a genuinely bad person though. He bullied, belittled, and gaslit me over the course of six months, to where I was incapable of making decisive decisions on calls, and I was on the verge of volunteering for deployment with my Reserve unit to avoid going to work at all. My current crew, in contrast, are very positive and motivated, and I completed a department-funded accelerated paramedic course with their help. If you're less of a b***h than me, you may fare better, but the people are what make your experience in the job, not the calls.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >My EMS field trainer was a genuinely bad person though. He bullied, belittled, and gaslit me over the course of six months, to where I was incapable of making decisive decisions on calls, and I was on the verge of volunteering for deployment with my Reserve unit to avoid going to work at all. My current crew, in contrast, are very positive and motivated, and I completed a department-funded accelerated paramedic course with their help.
            This happens in Army too. Went on operation and ended up with the exact same "team leader" and 2IC. Made downtime on an entire force assignment hell.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a friend who recently became one. Apparently it’s sorority house-level drama inside some of those fire stations.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think nightshifts are healthy. I'm always fricked the day after call or no calls.
    I'm not sure about it but I think you will never impress high end women cuz they will likely just see you as "grunt". IF that wasn't a goal or even a possibility i guess it's not a problem.
    I believe your mind atrophies when you just chill and do nothing at the station. At first I think it was cool to get paid(not so much though) to chill but I'm beggining to have more and more doubts.

    When I look at the faces on duty and people from offices having dinners I know i'm dealing with intellectually subpar people. It's an alright bacup career I guess but if you'r young and ambitious I would definetly skip this ancient institution. Since your not making anyone any money nepotism and favoritism plays enormous part. I really hate that there are limited opportunities. The biggest of drawback it's a one-way ticket - if you'r not in commanding officers rank you can't just go into private field mentioning that all you did was rolling hoses and putting out dumbster fires, it aint gonna cut it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      although i actually hate all work so not sure how seriously you want to take this.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Black person you are posting this on a weapons board i dont think you are smart enough to be a firefighter if you cant even find the right frickin board to post this shit on.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Whats the right board then butthole? /adv/ is literally just teenagers with no life experience.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The right board is reddit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I wouldn’t get any genuine opinions on there. If someone can’t say Black person I can’t trust that they’re not holding back on something major. Unironic life rule of mine.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Anything I should know beforehand?
    1. Become as arrogant as possible
    2. Start working on developing a potbelly
    3.Grow a gay mustache
    4. Start training your hair into a mullet
    5. Walk around with a false sense of confidence
    6. Get good at taking pipe
    7. Lastly...when you go work out at the gym with your bunk mates, make sure your walkie is turned up so that every beep/update is heard throughout the gym - nobody can forget that "HE'S A FIREMAN"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon I get some of your dislike but why wouldn't they have their walkies turned up all the way if people's lives could be on the line?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, they do generally have pretty terrible personalities (except smokejumpers), kind of the butch side of the male nurse phenotype

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >/k/ - fighting fires

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    SMOOKERS struck my local refinery

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a firefighter you will just be chillin at the station or on some MVA call 95% of the time, and then 5% of the time you will be working harder than you ever have in your entire life in the most dangerous situation you could ever imagine. Train physically for that 5% every single day and don't become a complacent butthole because it could end up costing someone their life and it will haunt you in every quiet moment or nightmare for the rest of your days

    >t. knower

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    From what I hear. It is hard to get into. But people love you way more than being a cop. Big downside is burns and carcinogens. My nurse friend says their burn ward sees a lot of firemen.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You'll get PTSD from trying to reanimate roasted children. I'm serious. You'll be the first one on the scene most of the time and do a lot of the work that paramedics do.

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