Looks like they were KA-52s and some additional research suggests a few Starstreak kills.
https://censor.net/ua/news/3373231/povitryani_syly_zsu_znyschyly_4_rosiyiski_udarni_vertoloty_za_18_hvylyn
Looks like they were KA-52s and some additional research suggests a few Starstreak kills.
https://censor.net/ua/news/3373231/povitryani_syly_zsu_znyschyly_4_rosiyiski_udarni_vertoloty_za_18_hvylyn
Remember when people said Russia could take on all of NATO at once? Lol.
Remember when Putin said he could be in Berlin in 48 hours?
I mean if poland wasn't in the way he might
lol did you see how they drove their columns up to kyiv? any half-arsed US air response would bring the advance to a halt 20km past any nato border
Berlin is 40km from polish border - so if Poland wasn't...
> Blocks your path
And if they get to Berlin, the city was an hellhole to take in the second World war and that was defended by the last totally worn out troops you can find.
It was supposed to be a fake show of force and Zelensky was supposed to give up right away, but he's a fricking israelite and got bought off by biden and turned it into a real war
I doubt anyone needed to pay him to fight back against an invasion
people tend to defend themselves when attacked
then to add to that before you post BUT LOL DA RUSSIANS ARE GETTING SMOKKKED
There wasnt a war planned, it was supposed to last 2 hours and everyone ewas supposed to go home, thats why the first wave had cardboard armor and shit, suddenly Putin had to organize an actual war out of nowhere on no notice with a force that's mostly geared towards a defence doctrine and thus we've had these last few months
>I mean if things weren't the way they are he might
Sure, Pydor, and if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bike.
he's clearly joking why are you getting offended?
I thought she was a bike because everyone in the village gets a ride
Pretty sure he said Kiev
even thats a be laugh now. He cant even get to Pisky in 48 hours.
Well Russian cars suck. Probably ment in peace times.
Actual quote.
Yeah, he's this moronic.
I mean he did actually have Russian troops in Kiev in two days. So he was technically correct :^)
corpses
clearly he didn't want it
just further proof that the Kiev feint really was a feint
Maybe not moronic. We're talking about Russia. They prolly sold most of their shit for btc and reported all is perfect. From Russia you could virtually buy anything. Anyways. Putin gets intel from FSB (yea, they love us, they would welcome us, just frick off m8, gotta get to Rostow to sail my boat on the Black Sea), GRU (yea, yea, just like FSB said), Zolotov (Rosgwardia is ready as ever, we will shred our enemies with our teeth if needed), Airforce (we have entire UA air forces pin pointed, ready to disable in 2 hours tops), Navy (we can take Odessa, we strong), Army (yea, we cool, not like we goin to any war anytime soon, since we sold some, well most of our gear online). You know, that even before the invasion, you could buy fuel of them for booze??. Remember those fuelless tanks in the beginning?? Russians being Russians. Anyways. Takin that into advantage, Putin's maybe not moronic, but ultra stupid, believing his fellow Russians, wouldn't do what he does. Embezzle money. I mean he had to suspect sth. But i kinda feel, the magnitude of the corruption scale, scared even him.
I mean, technically he could have
Purchased airline tickets and have Russian troops in those city’s within a day if he didn’t ape out
Why do russians constantly talk like supervillains? Do they realize that they're the bad guys?
Imagine if Biden said, "If I wanted, in two days I could have American troops not only in Beijing, but also Shanghai..." ect. He wouldn't come off as brave or stalwart, he'd sound like a crazy psychopath who wants to take over the world.
>If I wanted, in two days I could have American troops not only in Beijing, but also Pyongyang, Tehran, Moscow, Kabul and Damascus
The really crazy thing is that assuming congress played along he probably could, with the possible exception of Beijing
russians culturally dont understand the difference between respect, hate and fear. so they bomb babushkas and talk about nooooking the world
Agree; there's some kind of cultural or linguistic disconnect, as if they weren't socialised properly as kids.
I'm sure he could drop some VDV battalions off near Berlin within 48 hours while the Americans are asleep
He isn't wrong. He would be in a prison in Berlin in 2 days.
Remember Armatard very confidently saying Russia could invade and take over the continental US?
Poor little moron probably mistook the COD:MW2 campaign for real life.
Is what they’re doing right now and winning.
Do not mind..................
honestly, i think Europe would have run out of ammunition in a war of attrition against Russia.
the U.S. really is, unironically, the one thing that would guarantee Europe wouldn't get run over.
I would have thought that before it turns out Russia's stockpiles are either sold off or rotted beyond usability requiring precious time being spent scavenging vast warehouses and open pits for anything usable. Like euros don't exactly have the best track record either but it's a matter of scale.
Hard to supply munitions to the front when outclassed 1:10 in the air
Europe does have quite a few factories unlike Russia nowadays that has very few left.
The internet never forgets.
Rotary aviation has not exactly covered itself in glory in Ukraine even taking into consideration general Vatnik incompetence.
It didn't cover itself in glory in Iraq either. Cobras were getting fricked regularly by Iraqi air defenses.
Plenty were lost in Vietnam and the Soviet’s afghan war but thy at was when supper powers could pump these things out in huge quantities.
Its always been a really risky bit of flying, however if you're taking that amount of ground fire and missiles you'd pull back and tell the infantry to go in there and do their job of suppressing them.
Sticking around until 4 go down?
Damn, that's past the brave point and into the really fricking moronic territory. That's about $50-60mil worth of now scrap metal and they're not exactly overflowing with air crews either
Helicopters basically fly by pulling some bullshit and hoping physics doesn't notice, for all their strengths they have never been a particularly reliable form of aviation
It's just a wing, but it goes in circles instead of just forwards. Then you need another spinning wing at the back to counter the spinning effect of the first spinning wing.
still waiting for that video though
wrecks at least?
Not seen any yet, but the last few months have been excessive in losses for Russia due to the use of aviation to plug gaps in frontlines in the north east.
It would not surprise me that the new commander sent in a few dozen heli's into dangerous areas as a show of force. But that didn't work before, and wont work now.
All it'll mean is Russia is inevitably losing the rest of its airforce.
>And it's a good thing tm
I've seen UA people on Twitter claiming there's footage, and potentially 2 more helis down. Chill down for a day or two
It's cool that 6 copters are toast, but how do we know it was starstreak? I have no doubts starstreak could take them down, but isn't it more likely to be an igla? Even a stinger could be responsible.
>Igla
I've seen videos of iglas being baited by flares from Ka-52 in this war. Helis are one target starstreak would be good against
I've heard rumours from volunteers that flares sometimes work on 2nd generation stingers too, and that the anti-missile laser also burns out their sensors, so they only fire stingers at heli's two at a time.
In fact you'll notice nearly every new manpad video is usually two missiles at once to bypass the laser defence.
>listen up, i was in Syria! We simply sent our helicopters right in their faces and flattened them point blank! Worked out great!
>but sir, hohols have lots of manpads
>Shut up! You send the choppers, or you are joining the VDV! And tell the pilots that if i see them lobbing the unguided rockets blindly from a distance, they will be reassigned to storm Bakhamut with the wagnerites, on foot!
post yfw russia is reduced to using barrel bombs
post yfw russia is the second most competent iranian proxy after syria
honey, what's wrong, you haven't touched your pepega salad
>What do you mean what worked in syria doesn't work in ukraine?
>What do you mean I can't order a retreat from kherson?
You think Egypt will get their money back?
QRD?
>.ua
convincing, i now believe the kiev regime is winning and russia has its back against the wall
yeah
Colonel, what's a russian gunship doing here?
>I have no idea, Snake.
im gonna need some footage, pigbros
How are you Shitbirds developing these lies so quickly? Fricking stop it!
>says nothing about starstreak
>was probably manpads as per the usual
>create startstreak cope thread
Are you from the legendary "proofs?" trio? Big fan.
I'm not asking for anything copelord, I'm just pointing out the obvious.
I'm not OP, just a starstreak autism enjoyer.
after 8 months starstreak still has 0 confirmed kills, just a handful of britcuck copers
There's like a dozen videos of Starstreak/Martlet in use with videos of two starstreak hits on an mi-28 and su-34
Post them, copestreaker
They have been posted to death but you still pretend to never have seen them.
I remember when they tried to pass off a stinger hitting mi28 as a starstreak because that was when it was startreaks turn to be advertised
>Stinger
Armatard you said it was a piorun for the last few months
The Russians have nearly lost every helicopter they invaded Ukraine with
>probably KA52's
>They lost all their aircraft
never change /k/ never change.
>all their aircraft
That is not what it says. That is comparing Russian losses to what was committed at the beginning of the invasion. Obviously Russia did not commit all 3500 of there operable tanks to the invasion, that would have required almost 10% of the invasion force to be tank crew, never mind the Loggies and Mechanics needed to support the tanks.
Likewise, Russia did not commit their entire fixed or rotary wing aircraft forces to the invasion.
Because Russia is too stupid to back off, sue for peace, and lick their wounds, and they keep committing material and blood to the theater to make good their losses, they will eventually loose more of everything that they invaded with than they invaded with.
Including dignity.
>That is not what it says.
>Nearly every helicopter
>That is comparing Russian losses to what was committed at the beginning of the invasion
Did Brosint pick a random number?
Sunk cost fallacy at the geopolitical scale.
>Ships and Boats
When this thing is over, Russia will have no tanks, no air force, little artillery, but a mostly intact navy. What will be the strategic implications of this?
Russian navy will be forced to learn how to not be completely incompetent
>What will be the strategic implications of this?
Voyage of the damned 2.0 the electric boogaloo. Russian Pacific fleet becomes 2nd Black Sea squadron and catches fire on their way around Africa before being BTFO.
Leave the navy to me
what i dont get it , the russian seem to have done a peicemeil invasion.
Eg sent ther troops single file through opposing forces dug in, and been high templared to death.
Why did they not zerg rush with thier 1/4 of a million troops on day 1 and why di the not just mega rocket all the power and water stations on day 1.
teh cities would more or less decintergrate with out water and power.
They couldn't properly transport and supply their smaller initial force, what makes you think they could do it with an even larger one?
Also it seems that they don't have that great of a strategic level bombing capabilities for the Ukrainian theater, their bombers would suffer unaceptable losses and their missiles aren't that accurate and get intercepted at a considerable rate as well, as for indirect ground fire from arty and MLRS, they require them to close the distance, which they did for a while before the lines collapsed.
Turns out war is kind hard.
could theu not make a long line and just walk a 100 -1000 m a day forward along the border consolidate repeat - a week later.
They would advance at a very slow rate which would give Ukraine the chance to prepare defenses and receive more help from the west.
well true, but I think the land they can take without loseing many men would be large front is couple of 100Km long, after 10 - 50 days you coud have 1000 sqm.
Thats a lot, base build to the wall like dune II
>Turns out war is kind hard.
It's funny but Von Clauswitz literally devoted an entire chapter of On War to "War is hard" and it seems like it is the first thing people forget when they are not at war.
Well its not hard for the people who declare them, they're just office slugs and management.
Vlad wont even make a token effort to turn up somewhere to encourage the guys to fight harder and get his Gucci's dirty in the mud now. But the mechanism which tells him 'Being into war is hard' doesn't really exist in Russian society, it just says yes
>the russian seem to have done a peicemeil invasion.
The general crux of it all was the FSB 5th service had sabotaged and bribed all the relevant authorities into not fighting, so the worst they expected was some malcontent in the western half of the country, some rioting and angry soldiers in the east. Run in there, capture/kill Zelenski and the rest of the country rolls over and learns its place. So the rest of the force was really just there as a 'show of force' that wasn't really expected to see much more than some rocks thrown at their BMP's.
That illusion ended pretty much immediately, but it was tracking on-time until Day-2 when the wheels fell off the whole fricking debacle and it spiralled into a complete shambles
I'd love it if it turned out that the Ukranian high command told their officers to keep taking bribes and then turn around and frick the Russians when shit finally happened. This would bring me much joy.
Honestly that's my plan if I ever get into a position of power, milk the frickers for everything they've got and then just laugh in their face when they ask for whatever they were bribing me to do
A smart intelligence officer always has a stick to back up the carrot.
I bet the FSB officers just pocketed the bribe money, while pretending to have ukrainian officers and officials compromised.
Oh, they did don't worry!
145 of them more or less got disappeared or arrested by some other FSB unit and the head of their dept got locked up in some hellhole. The funniest thing of all was Putin put together the 5th service of the FSB as his own little baby to run around funding righties, lefties and anyone else who had the shits with their gov in other countries as a general pain the arse.
Then it blew back in his face
All those things require preparation, they decided that rushing in with so little prep that even their soldiers didn't know until a few hours in that they were invading Ukraine was better.
It's the Plants vs Zombies strategy. Why do you think they made their symbol Z? They learned from EA that the best way to defeat a bunch of sunflowers is using a bunch of unarmed mindless waves.
>Russia lost 75% of all the tanks it has
>not in the theatre, all the ones it has period
Lmao
Well, they probably have more like 5k rather than 3.3k, so losses are likely 50% and not counting reserves.
There's a reason why they started to retrofit t-62.
Also, a lot of tank losses have been gifts to the Ukrainians
3k of actually operational tanks was thrown around for quite a while, maybe even before invasion
Pics or it didn't happen.
100000 helicopters destroyed in nanoseconds
Source: trust me
>no mention of starstreak
>no proof of anything being shot down
At least when the stinger shoots down a cruise missile there was video evidence
The cruise missile shoot down was Martlet - basically starstreak
Martlet is much lower performance than starstreak, but much cheaper, similar guidance though iirc.
>lower performance
It performs differently, because its for different situations, it's not like its a budget version of Starstreak.
Helicopters are absolutely useless facing an enemy with some anti air
Random guys in manpads biking into "safe areas" will cause constant heavy attrition, let alone if you try to attack targets with them
I'm sorry starstreak
I'm sorry Startstreak/Igla/Martlet/any other MANPAD(S) out there.
I'm sorry Startstreak/Igla/Martlet/any other MANPAD(S) out there.
I'm sorry Startstreak/Igla/Martlet/any other MANPAD(S) out there.
I don't buy this. I don't doubt that they shot something Russian down but this seems ridiculous.
fake news
>no photos though, please understand, battery was low
no footage all talk... kek
Starstreak has more than proven itself as the best MANPADS. We don’t need proof to know that this happened. Must be something in the water that the bongs can make something so good
>We don’t need proof to know that this happened
Okraina in a nutshell.
Shoo
last I heard it got postponed until 2026
>russia can mak 1-2 KA-52s pre-war
it's over
Russian commanders played too much Ace Combat. Thinking you can just bank hard to avoid MANPADs / Active Radar.
Russia has 200K conscripts with Wagner instructors? Why not try a cheeky rush from Belarus to Lyiv? And try to hide troops as best as possible in Belarus forests.
Are they going to run there on foot?
yuo are of genius
I believe your statement unsupported by any evidence
>and some additional research suggests a few Starstreak kills.
Where?
Trusting CIA news again?
Where are all the Mi-28?