I'm just getting into guns and I'm making a checklist of the essentials I'll need to get.

I'm just getting into guns and I'm making a checklist of the essentials I'll need to get. What am I missing? I know it sounds silly but I am serious

>Pocket pistol for carrying
>Full size 9mm for power
>10mm for woods gun for bears and large animals
>Full size AR for riots, diasters, political unrest etc.
>Silenced Short barrel AR or Shotgun for home defense
>Sniper for long range
>10/22 for hunting small game and plinking. Maybe 22 pistol
>Finally maybe some historical guns just for fun

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >more than 1 pistol
    >I know it sounds silly but I am serious

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My logic is you need a small pistol for daily carry everywhere. A 9mm for when you got to dangerous areas like the hood and then the 10mm for the woods. I guess you could take the 10mm to the hood but I've never shot one so I don't know how it is

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        should realistically have a backup of your EDC pistol
        in a self defense situation in most states they are going to take your gun and never give it back

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ehh, one of my mates has used has been in two defensive shootings and he got his gun back both times.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick ya mudda

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do you actually like shooting guns?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you ask

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because you seem to have to have a larp to
        >justify
        guns.
        Do you like shooting long range? do you like shooting skeet/sport? do you like shooting plates?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I just shot a gun for the first time 2 days ago so I dunno

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            fair enough.
            then I recommend not making a list now, you have no fricking clue what you actually like and will buy shit you don't care about.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if you want to get into guns then I recommend getting something very fun. a full size 22lr is an absolute blast to shoot and there are lots of good options.
            I have a TX22 competition, which is really nice, especially for the price. another fun one is a pump shotgun (anything not Turkish).
            that's what is going to get you to the range and having fun.
            I think ARs are lousy first choices because they are expensive per unit fun.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is a good question. If you don't actually like shooting gun just buy an ar15

      My logic is you need a small pistol for daily carry everywhere. A 9mm for when you got to dangerous areas like the hood and then the 10mm for the woods. I guess you could take the 10mm to the hood but I've never shot one so I don't know how it is

      You can just double up on a 10mm for a full sized handgun if you really want to.

      Why do you ask

      You don't need to buy half a dozen different guns if you don't enjoy shooting. You can get away with 3 for what you're going for.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >just buy an ar15
        >hit post before finishing my sentence
        An ar15, some kind of carry pistol, and a 22.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You can get away with 3 for what you're going for.
        10mm, Silenced Short barrel AR, and 10/22. Is that the 3?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sorta. If you enjoy firearms then go fricking nuts but if you don't then don't bother dumping thousands of dollars in to specialized weapons for different scenarios when you don't need to. I would buy something like a g19, a 16in AR15, and a 10/22 if I were you. That's a fairly low bar for entry and will be enough for you to decide if you want to purchase more firearms for more specific scenarios.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This, honestly. A carry gun and a basic AR or shotgun for home defense make a lot of sense for most people. 22's for plinking or having fun shooting with friends are always useful. Beyond that it seems kind of silly to make a list because all of the rest of it depends on what you're doing. Consoooooming some silly checklist doesn't make much sense. Start with your basic needs, then pick what you like based on what you're actually doing. It's pretty dumb to go buy a hunting rifle if you're not actually hunting.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Pocket pistol for carrying
            >Full size 9mm for power
            >10mm for woods gun for bears and large animals
            Glock 19 or equivalent covers these for beginners

            >Full size AR for riots, diasters, political unrest etc.
            >Silenced Short barrel AR or Shotgun for home defense
            >Sniper for long range
            16" AR with LPVO+dot covers these for beginners

            10/22 - everyone should have a 10/22, if your dad didn't give you a 10/22 when you were twelve then he failed as a father
            Add 12ga. O/U if you enjoy sport shooting, add .22 pistol if you enjoy bullseye or steel challenge or plinking

            Those are the essentials. From there you can develop skills and experience and determine what you actually need/want instead of being a moron. You don't need a 'sniper' if you only have access to a 100-200y range and aren't hunting bighorn or whatever. You don't need a 10mm bear gun if you don't live where the bears are or regularly go in the woods. You don't need a pump action shotgun unless you are poor and have a $200 budget for your entire collection.

            Best advice in thread, OP. Listen to these anons.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Pocket pistol for carrying
    I would skip pocket pistols and just dress to conceal a larger frame.
    >>Full size 9mm for power
    decent choice, but a 9mm isn't especially powerful. many pocket pistols are 9mm
    >>10mm for woods gun for bears and large animals
    I would carry a rifle for this
    >>Full size AR for riots, diasters, political unrest etc.
    Short barrel AR or Shotgun for home defense
    for long range
    long range what?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and just dress to conceal a larger frame.
      Not going to walk around like Adam Sandler just to carry a gun
      >but a 9mm isn't especially powerful
      Not powerful for the hood?
      >I would carry a rifle for this
      A little too much just for a hike and things like that no?
      >long range what?
      Hunting or political unrest

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pistol for carrying
    Makes sense. Go handle a bunch and see what feels comfortable to you.

    >>Full size 9mm for power
    Whut? 9mm isn't exactly known for being super-powerful, and you already listed a carry gun. What's this for?

    >>10mm for woods gun for bears and large animals
    Are there even dangerous animals in your area? Don't get me wrong, this might make sense if you actually go hiking in Alaska, but I don't think you're actually doing that.

    >>Full size AR for riots, diasters, political unrest etc.
    Makes sense.

    Short barrel AR or Shotgun for home defense
    Put a silencer on your full size AR.

    for long range
    Do you even have anywhere to shoot something like this? I sold my ELR rig because it got real fricking old having to pay $$$ and drive three hours to find somewhere decent to shoot it.

    for hunting small game and plinking. Maybe 22 pistol
    These make tons of sense. Ruger 10/22 and MkIV pistols.

    maybe some historical guns just for fun
    Which ones do you think are fun? This is totally subjective.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What's this for?
      Guys I know always shit talking 380 for not being strong and they carry 9mm. Also pocket pistol I want just have 7 round magazine. So I was thinking baby gun for going to the store and 9mm with 11 rounds for the hood.
      >Are there even dangerous animals in your area?
      I live in Florida and there are black bears, monkeys, and boars but not too much to worry about. Not that dangerous but I plan on moving states soon.
      >Do you even have anywhere to shoot something like this?
      You mean outdoor range? Yeah there is one real close to me
      >Which ones do you think are fun?
      Just ones that I like the look of.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Guys I know always shit talking 380 for not being strong and they carry 9mm.
        Statistically all standard pistol rounds perform the same in real-world shootings. Specifically that's .380, .38 Special, 9mm, .40 S&W, 10mm, .45 ACP. 9mm isn't really any "better" than 380 when it comes to people actually getting shot.

        >Not that dangerous but I plan on moving states soon.
        Worry about a dangerous animal woods gun after you move.

        >You mean outdoor range? Yeah there is one real close to me
        No, I mean a really long outdoor range. Most of them are much too short. Shooting a "sniper rifle" at 100 yards or even a few hundred yards is like owning a badass sports car but having to obey a 20mph speed limit. It's boring. For a gun like that you need a range that's several hundred yards, ideally over a thousand.

        >Just ones that I like the look of.
        Great, collect those. But we can't tell you what they are.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Also pocket pistol I want just have 7 round magazine. So I was thinking baby gun for going to the store and 9mm with 11 rounds for the hood.
        This is pretty much my setup M&P bodyguard (6+1 capacity) .380 and M&P Shield (10 or 13 round mag) 9mm. I like it.

        >Guys I know always shit talking 380 for not being strong and they carry 9mm.
        Statistically all standard pistol rounds perform the same in real-world shootings. Specifically that's .380, .38 Special, 9mm, .40 S&W, 10mm, .45 ACP. 9mm isn't really any "better" than 380 when it comes to people actually getting shot.

        >Not that dangerous but I plan on moving states soon.
        Worry about a dangerous animal woods gun after you move.

        >You mean outdoor range? Yeah there is one real close to me
        No, I mean a really long outdoor range. Most of them are much too short. Shooting a "sniper rifle" at 100 yards or even a few hundred yards is like owning a badass sports car but having to obey a 20mph speed limit. It's boring. For a gun like that you need a range that's several hundred yards, ideally over a thousand.

        >Just ones that I like the look of.
        Great, collect those. But we can't tell you what they are.

        >Statistically all standard pistol rounds perform the same in real-world shootings.
        imo with .380 the concern is shootability. I can't shoot my bodyguard nearly as well as my shield. Although If I could shoot something like a Bersa as well as my shield (idk if I can, never shot one or seen one IRL), I wouldn't mind replacing it with that, although I'd still probably keep my bodyguard around whenever I needed something that small.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >glock 19
    >mk18/m4
    >semi 308
    >pump shotty
    >10-22
    The extra shit like nylon gear and optics is wayyyy more important than having super specific guns for every niche use case. The list above covers your bases, I'm sure other anons will post variations of that same list.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And speaking of "extra shit", that includes training expenses--ammo, targets, range fees, professional instruction. Simply owning a particular gun doesn't mean a damn thing. The question is how proficient are you at using it, and like any other skill that comes from practice, which costs money.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Realistically all you should need is literally any pistol that fits in your pants and a shotfun for break-ins and hunting if you do that. Anything else is larp. Don't cheap out and don't spend too much, on the slim to none chance u actually nail someone for a good reason they might take ur shit and if they rule it a bad shoot it's gone for good. If you're actually in the woods enough to need a bear pistol then I'd say that's also a good buy. Here's my larping list.
    >Full size turnbolt from good manufacturer for large fauna and enemies past 200 yards
    >12 gauge with field barrel and combat barrel switch-out
    >Any gas carbine (ak, sks, ar, m1, etc)
    >Any auto handgun as sidearm or concealed carry in places where open carry isn't an option or practical.
    .22 and .410 are good options for passing time and harvesting game with no bag limit or season(squirrels and rabbits and shit) but I don't see myself going out of my way for one anytime soon.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for staring out go
    >pocket sized gun for CC (Would recommend carrying IWB most of the time)
    >sub/compact 9mm for larger carry (P365, Shield, etc)
    Depending on budget either of the following
    >full size 9mm for HD, plinking and practicing fundamentals
    >.22lr pistol for above minus HD

    IMO I would recommend that for phase 1.

    Phase 2
    >Long gun for HD/civil unrest
    I'd lean 5.56 AR. If a NFA items aren't a big deal for you, go for a silenced pistol. If you're on a budget, just get a 16" unsuppressed
    >Especially if you get an AR or other carbine, .22lr long gun for cheap practice and small game hunting.

    Beyond that just do it based on what you're interested in. If you think skeet looks fun, get a shotgun for that. But don't just buy a "sniper rifle" unless you actually have the motivation and resources to put time into it. Same with any type of hunting.

    >Long version shotgun versus AR/Carbine and HD generally
    Overall I'd say the AR/Carbine is better. Their effectiveness at HD ranges is well above pistols, although not quite that of shotguns. However carbines are much easier to use and they're much better at longer ranges. Consider some civil unrest scenario where you have to make a 30 yard shot on someone chasing your neighbor/family member with a machete and there's other people around. I'd feel way more comfortable doing that with a carbine than a shotgun. When it comes to defensive use, the AR/Carbine is actually more versatile as you basically have the same effectiveness at a very large range of distances, unlike the shotgun that you have to change ammo for to get a desired affect at a certain distance.

    The advantage for the Shotgun as opposed to the AR/Carbine, aside power/damage. Is that personally I find myself more likely to train with it. I mostly shoot pistols and I'm much more likley to take my shotgun and shoot it a bit before my handguns than I am to do the same with my AR, since shooting them <25 yards is boring.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      one more point about the AR/Carbine, get some type of expanding ammo for HD. Don't just rely on M193. There's a lot of energy in .223/5.56 and you want it expending it as soon as possible in a HD scenario.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        okay last point.
        IMO a weapon light is mandatory on HD long guns. A small advantage of carbines is it's easier to mount lights to, but it can still be done on shotguns of course.
        For a HD handgun, make sure you have a flashlight right next to it if you don't have a light on it.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Full size 9mm for power
    Kek okay forenite timmy

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Pocket pistol for carrying
    >Full size 9mm for power
    >10mm for woods gun for bears and large animals
    Glock 19 or equivalent covers these for beginners

    >Full size AR for riots, diasters, political unrest etc.
    >Silenced Short barrel AR or Shotgun for home defense
    >Sniper for long range
    16" AR with LPVO+dot covers these for beginners

    10/22 - everyone should have a 10/22, if your dad didn't give you a 10/22 when you were twelve then he failed as a father
    Add 12ga. O/U if you enjoy sport shooting, add .22 pistol if you enjoy bullseye or steel challenge or plinking

    Those are the essentials. From there you can develop skills and experience and determine what you actually need/want instead of being a moron. You don't need a 'sniper' if you only have access to a 100-200y range and aren't hunting bighorn or whatever. You don't need a 10mm bear gun if you don't live where the bears are or regularly go in the woods. You don't need a pump action shotgun unless you are poor and have a $200 budget for your entire collection.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is cost or time to shoot a bigger limiting factor in your ability to shoot a lot?
    if money is no object, then sure buy all those guns. if you're on a budget but have time to shoot, i would say get a rifle, a medium sized carry pistol, and a 22 pistol/rifle because they're cheap to shoot and fun.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    9mm is fine for woods. Change the load you're using. It's not about the diameter size, it's about how you load it. Go learn ammo.
    You aren't going to be rambo innawoods with a pistol.
    If you ever do decide to visit wilderness or campgrounds, you'll find you actually scare the animals away just from being a bumbling moron in the woods, so don't get gung ho and trigger happy about blasting wildlife because we need them alive for the ecosystems to be good. Only a homosexual kills something for no reason - and don't get yourself put into a stupid position so you can try to make a self defense scenario up. Use your brain and avoid danger, violence and killing as much as possible.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mission dictates gear.
    Or, in other words, buy guns based on your interests and circumstances.

    If you just want the bare minimum then that'd be
    >Carry pistol of some kind, probably a microcompact.
    >If you live somewhere with hot summers or you're often wearing clothes that make it impossible to conceal even a microcomapct then add in a pocket pistol.
    >Rifle for home defense/civil unrest. Specifics don't really matter, pretty much any semi-auto rifle in an intermediate or full-power caliber will do the job almost as well as any other.
    >.22 for training and small game.
    Beyond that it's up to you. You don't need a shotgun just for the sake of having a shotgun, you don't need a 10mm if you don't live in grizzly country (and even then it's arguable), you don't need a hunting rifle if you're not interesting in hunting (and depending on caliber, weight, etc you might be able to hunt just fine with your home defense rifle), you don't need a "sniper" for long range shooting if there are no opportunities for long range shooting near you or if you're not interested in it (although if you're picturing using your guns in some sort of insurgency or shtf wasteland then, yeah, being able to outrange national guardsman and AR-15 wielding bandits would be extremely useful).

    Buy a carry pistol, buy an AR (or an AUG or a FAL or some other fighting rifle) then decide what you want next.
    If you want to get into hunting then buy a shottie, lightweight bolt-action or an AR-10. If you decide you enjoy skeet shooting then obviously you'll need a semi-auto or break-action shotgun. If your conceal carry piece is too big for comfortable carry in the office, buy yourself a pocket pistol. Whatever.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >good
    >lel, roll it into the pocket pistol
    >revolver is also an acceptable option. However I doubt you live in the regions where you'll need something that beefy to deal with the wildlife
    >sure why not
    >could just get a nice sized 16 or 14.5 or even go bullpup and roll the roles together
    >you're never gonna shoot long range, ELR ranges are hens teeth
    >absolutely
    >only if you really enjoy them. Don't buy an SKS for 800 expecting it to rock your world
    Where's your shotgun boy? You have a lot of roles that could be filled by a single gun but no room for a shotgun? Your list seems to have been formed based on youtube videos and not trigger experience. My advice, get shooting and find what you like, worry about roles after you buy the gun

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>good
      >>lel, roll it into the pocket pistol
      That depends on just how small a carry pistol we're talking.

      If by pocket pistol OP means a P365 XL or something in that bracket then, yeah, he doesn't a separate duty pistol for home defense or trips to the hood or whatever. A Glock 19 etc isn't going to be meaningfully easier to shoot and the difference between 15 rounds of 9mm or 20 rounds of 9mm is pretty negligible.
      On the other hand, if OP means an actual pocket pistol, something like a P-32 or LCP, because he spends most of the day wearing basketball shorts or a tucked in dress shirt with no jacket, then it's worth getting a second full-size or compact pistol.

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