If you want to serve, go reserves.

>You have a stable high-paying job and still want to serve? Go reserves.

>No bullshit 24/7
>No formations for ass-chewing
>No fuck fuck games
>You create a network of people and know every guy for a long time (you're not bouncing around a new duty station every 3 years)
>No field day unless mobilization orders

>Blow shit up on weekends with friends

It's peacetime military, imho it's not worth the bullshit to go AD.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do you see regarding the full time reservists? Still looks like most of the benefits without most of the AD fuckery.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reservists are bulled rotten by their respective branches.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lol they can "bully" away, I'm not listening to welfare queens and I'm especially not listening to surface sailors of any kind

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Full timers/AGR’s 100% consist of the worst people on Earth who backstab and suck dick for their positions. Always be weary of them as they are never to be trusted. If you see a moderately attractive female in a full time slot, it is an absolute guarantee she fucked a higher up to get the job.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're thinking of nat guard, reserves is still 100% federal

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm in ANG Cyber so it may be different for me, but its not a bad gig. Full timers can be AGR which is active duty without pcsing, or military technicians which you are technically a civilian but wear the uniform everyday, and are on the GS payscale. Technician pay scales relate to job not rank. So you can have an A1C in a GS11 spot which is 60-75k a year. I did full time for a bit for experience, but the pay was just better in DoD contracting. Best thing about it is getting experience get a 6-figure work from home contracting job.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every neverserved ITT below me who posts about:
    >ZOG
    >Israel
    >le vaxx
    >Biden
    >any 4chan talking point
    This is you

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a hasserved who talks about ZOG and other 4chan talking points. I don't talk about the vax, but I never got it. Now what?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They don't have a counter to that.
        if you disagree with the idea that America fucked away a lot of international good will we could have used against Russia and China with two decades of fucking around in the sandbox the moronCredibleDefense fags will screech at you

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh not the international goodwill, of course that’s what the poltards care about most lol. As if America should give a shit about what the rest of the world thinks about us lmfao.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >haha yeah it's no problem even as all the BRICS countries and third worlds shrug their shoulders and say NATO is responsible for the conflict
            I'm all for physically removing india from the face of the earth, but I'd like to do it at a more staggered pace instead of fighting everyone at once

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get a life and move on, no one cares you “served” also post CIB.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's an israeli conscript who spams that same image when he's bored and on duty (guarding a fucking reservist tank depot lmao)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/sFYrv48.jpg

      >You have a stable high-paying job and still want to serve? Go reserves.

      >No bullshit 24/7
      >No formations for ass-chewing
      >No fuck fuck games
      >You create a network of people and know every guy for a long time (you're not bouncing around a new duty station every 3 years)
      >No field day unless mobilization orders

      >Blow shit up on weekends with friends

      It's peacetime military, imho it's not worth the bullshit to go AD.

      the whole idea of serving and being proud of being in the military is kinda embarasing. It seems most guys do 3 years come back fucked up with join problems and call them selves vets. They only did 3 or 5 years. Yeah props to you for doing what you did but why is your whole life going to be based on what you did for 4 years. There's that guy on youtube marine reacts the guys so cring. He was only in for 5 years but talks like he's the best shit in the world. I dunno the whole military thing is kinda embarasing.

      do people in non combat roles also call themselves vets or is it only the combat or infantry guys?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I enjoyed my time, would do it over again, and was happy to deploy, but I'll never get basing my life on 5 years of cool stuff I did. It's as cringe as those guys who peaked in high-school or college and still constantly wear their school paraphernalia daily and slap it on everything they own.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sounds like someone's mad he doesn't get the respect he used to for being a fobbit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's really gay about veterans like this is that they military service as some higher calling or apotheosis, and it's just not. It's an extremely shitty job where you occasionally get to use very cool equipment that you can't use anywhere else. Believing other people envy you for that fact is delusional. It's the same vibe as guys who peaked playing high school football.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah those are terrible talking points.

      Thank me for my taxes and not fucking your ugly wife. And maybe, I’ll pretend you’re barely cooler than the stolen valor losers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who are you talking to?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Currently serving right now AD. I don't tell anyone except my friends who were wondering where the hell I've been. Just here for the resume padding and GI bill then I'm gone, this shit is cringe as fuck. Might go NG after for the basically free money while hanging out doing work in the dish pit or slinging drinks of some dive I like.
      Meanwhile last time I was on leave there was another guy at my usual pub wearing an Army PT shirt. Swerved. I don't get why people use this organization as a bragging right. Those that have never served will only never understand how fucking stupid all this shit is, and those that flaunt it are asking for either good boy points or nothing but trouble.
      And I'll never understand tacticool larping that's a whole other level.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Apparently he's living rent free in your head which is very based.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >slick sleeve gay calling others neverserved
      LMAO moron you joined a Blackid daycare service and still didn't even do shit. You have no business calling anyone else a neverserved.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They hated him because he told the turn

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah bro, you’re gaming the system really. We’re basically giving money away so don’t get left out.
    Join the army, Ukraine already won the Cold War.
    Join the marines, China ain’t gonna do shit.
    Don’t worry about it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't understand. I *want* to get called up for an actual war, without participating in all the bullshittery beforehand.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everybody want to be big but nobody want to lift no heavy ass weight.
        >mfw reserve/NG friends from AIT have deployed more than I have in AD

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's no active missions going on, the only missions reserves and NG are getting are shit rotations to literal no combat zones in Africa and Poland because they don't get training at all and AD is getting the exact same training by being stateside. The military is pointless rn

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You'd be amazed how many people completely fail to understand that the US's garrisons in Iraq, Syria and Africa (where you have at least a remote chance of seeing combat as non-SOF) are in the low thousands.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This. I joined the Army in 2013 and in AIT one guy who was reclassing had just come back from a deployment to Syria (excuse me "Jordan") and one of the instructors had just come back from a deployment in Egypt.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah they get gungho about an rotation to say Kuwait or Djibouti or something gay like that and say "OMG YOU DEPLOYED" no, you didn't work a live mission, you just fucked off for 9 months. I'm not even remotely interested in any deployment right now and turn down any opportunity to go somewhere simply for that reason. I'd rather wait until something actually kicks off rather than get burnt out on this shit

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This. I joined the Army in 2013 and in AIT one guy who was reclassing had just come back from a deployment to Syria (excuse me "Jordan") and one of the instructors had just come back from a deployment in Egypt.

              In all of those places you will sit on the FOB, it’s not 2015 anymore. Unless you count stray mortar fire as “combat”, and if it’s Africa you won’t even get that.

              Yeah they get gungho about an rotation to say Kuwait or Djibouti or something gay like that and say "OMG YOU DEPLOYED" no, you didn't work a live mission, you just fucked off for 9 months. I'm not even remotely interested in any deployment right now and turn down any opportunity to go somewhere simply for that reason. I'd rather wait until something actually kicks off rather than get burnt out on this shit

              Agreed, now is a good time to just do your AT and hang out on standby

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >be me
          >join army infantry, injured in basic
          >get stationed with a shit unit, never deploy
          >find out my original orders, before injury
          >would have gone to high speed unit
          >they deployed twice during my contract
          >civilian time now
          >feels bad

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >injured in basic
            you literally wgmi if you deployed with a high speed unit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I just wanna go play COD irl and do none of the prep work.
        Spoiler alert, not all the time, but sometimes, there's a method to the madness.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Still gotta get the vaccine though

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw am reserve not by choice
    Fucking hell I hate getting shat on by birds. Bloody hot as hell too in Singapore. I drink 7 litres and pee once in a single day.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Having just attended a course with a bunch of reservist at NG, I can tell you:
    >Blow shit up on weekends with friends
    Is not what goes on during their drill weekends. It’s 50% doing all the admin work we do in the regular army, 30% sitting around, and maybe 20% actual training which you’re doing with equipment that’s two generations behind what the rest of the Army is using. Not to mention most of the people you serve with are old, out of shape, and generally unmotivated. That’s if they even show up.

    If you really want to serve in the peacetime military go SOF.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was geared toward Marines. But I understand the concept.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You're a full-blown retard if you join the Marine Reserves over the National Guard without at least having been an active duty marine. In the Army, the National Guard and Reserves are 50% of the total force strength so they at least have to treat us with respect because they are forced to work with us fairly often.

        In the Marines you will never be treated like a peer to AD. It's literally the worst branch to be a reservist in. They also don't do shit and never deploy. If you wanna be a reservist and actually deploy then join the Guard.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I know reserve Marines get somewhat shit on for not being AD, but you're still a Marine. You still go to Bootcam, you still go to SOI/MCT and to MOS School. I want the title. You're probably not deploying nowhere anyway because it's peacetime now. If a war is in sight, reserve Marines do get deployed quite often.

          >I don't like the Army.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I know reserve Marines get somewhat shit on for not being AD, but you're still a Marine. You still go to Bootcam, you still go to SOI/MCT and to MOS School. I want the title. You're probably not deploying nowhere anyway because it's peacetime now. If a war is in sight, reserve Marines do get deployed quite often.

            If this isn't bait have a nice day. You were warned about how stupid your decision is, now have fun with it.

            >I don't like the Army
            You've never been in the military so you don't know what you like about it. The National Guard deploys ALL THE FUCKING TIME. I'm in a TRADOC Guard unit right now, and there are multiple people in my small unit of 33 people who have deployed in the last year alone. That doesn't even include State Active Deployments, ADOS, or technicians who work full time. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. If you join the Marine Reserve you will go to drill and AT for 6 years then get out like nothing ever happened. They don't deploy anywhere unless there is a war because of how MEF and MEBs work. We deploy all the time because Guard units get called up to fill in for AD overseas and at home.

            For love the of God listen to people who actually know better. National Guard Infantry is full of Marines for a reason.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >there are multiple people in my small unit of 33 people who have deployed in the last year alone
              do they just go places for training? Not active combat right? Also are they reserves or full time?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >do they just go places for training?
                We go for training and also regular deployments.
                >Not active combat right?
                You don't seem to understand what a deployment is. You get deployed somewhere to man a post for a mission. That may or may not be a training mission, or it just to be standby for an emergency. The National Guard absolutely sees combat, but in case you haven't noticed we aren't directly at war with anyone.
                >Also are they reserves or full time?
                I already said it's a Guard unit

                You know dick about the military and it's pathetic that you would join the Marine Reserves just for the title. You're the type of fag who puts EGAs all over his car even though you never went anywhere after boot camp.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you able to request being deployed? I'd consider it a waste if you weren't deployed at all since we're in peacetime.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Are you able to request being deployed?
                Yes
                > I'd consider it a waste if you weren't deployed at all since we're in peacetime.
                What are you even trying to say? Peacetime deployments are the shit. You literally just go on a year long working stay in a foreign country, and if you have a government job get paid double from the Army and your civilian job.

                >Dude, I'm an airline pilot. Airline doesn't pay for drill nor deployment. I don't have a direct experience with big Army, but my dad was an Army O.

                What is it that you're trying to say here?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm saying that given my job, deployment isn't an option.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm saying that given my job, deployment isn't an option.

                Well that's not how things work. If your unit gets deployed, you're going. My state unironically will send the police to your home and job to get you for skipping PREMOB.

                >Anything else you'd like to say that the unintiated might not know?

                If you're an officer it's not a one weekend of month job. Expect at least 30 minutes to an 1 hour per day of Guard outside of drill. Sometimes more, sometimes less. The pay also isn't good.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's why the Marines would be my choice.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go for it then. If you the Army Reserve had no money wait until you see the Marine Reserves.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Excellent answer. Thanks!
                I meant more if I wasn't able to be deployed at all it would be a waste. Anything else you'd like to say that the unintiated might not know?
                I don't work in Gov, but that's my end goal is, I'm hoping to go comm unit so I can also get clearance. You've been a wealth of knowledge, thank you!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You know dick about the military
                yeah I know that's why im asking
                I've gotten steered wrong by people I've talk to and having someone who knows first hand is helpful
                > it's pathetic that you would join the Marine Reserves just for the title
                i'm not that idiot im another anon

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Dude, I'm an airline pilot. Airline doesn't pay for drill nor deployment. I don't have a direct experience with big Army, but my dad was an Army O.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > National Guard Infantry is full of Marines for a reason.

              The Guard as a whole is full of Marines. My old MP unit was about 10% prior 03’s for several years until recently.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've thought about doing CG reserves just for the fuck of it but I'm not getting the goyjuice just to arrest Haitians once a month. If they drop the vax bullshit then maybe I'll join.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed on that, if they dropped the chinkvax it would be much better.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same on the vax.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Have a stable career in IT
    >Really want to join the AF but am turning 30 so I'd take a sizeable pay cut to enlist.
    >Am physically fit with obviously a passion for firearms
    What do I do, bros? Guard doesn't get free college or veteran status, right? Even if you get deployed? Thanks for the info, or if someone is able to point me in a good direction for information.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Guard doesn't get free college or veteran status, right? Even if you get deployed?

      Try Google because your assumptions are wrong. You get veteran status after 180 Days active duty and become eligible for partial GI bill too.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's why I'm asking in the thread. Thanks for your reply.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there's a deep allure in men specifically to join a military and I can't quite understand it. i feel it myself, the comradery, the feeling of doing something you can only do for a limited time, the forever having it under your belt as a vet etc. there is some truth to the fact that everyone who plays as military, militias and gun enthusiasts feel a recursive cringe that they're larping. even if on paper the military is BARELY competent at shooting or navigation anyway

      but on paper the military is fucking atrocious. shit pay, shit treatment, shit jobs. if you're not doing it for the security clearance or the GI bill to go to college it is a complete waste of time on paper. its a 4 year or longer black hole in which everyone who comes out of it is either glad they got out or mentally buck broken in that they're still trapped in the mindset. but, the urge to join is still there

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        also inb4 zog findom cummy hyperborean mommy posts about serving foreign interests and not domestic ones

        if you join the military for patriotism you are the blackest moron neanderthal retard. the only acceptable reasons are to shoot guns, blow shit up, get training in skills and have some fun. i have zero sympathy for the corn fed hicks who join and have their world torn apart when they realise cleaning iraqi airbases with toothbrushes so jets can bomb brown people(based btw) isnt actually that important to american security

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ugh excuse me what the fuck did your initial inb4 say? I think that post gave me anal autism

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you have stable career focus on that. I'm a full 4chantard now, but there's a lot to gain from the military besides the bennies as I'll explain in my other reply.

      there's a deep allure in men specifically to join a military and I can't quite understand it. i feel it myself, the comradery, the feeling of doing something you can only do for a limited time, the forever having it under your belt as a vet etc. there is some truth to the fact that everyone who plays as military, militias and gun enthusiasts feel a recursive cringe that they're larping. even if on paper the military is BARELY competent at shooting or navigation anyway

      but on paper the military is fucking atrocious. shit pay, shit treatment, shit jobs. if you're not doing it for the security clearance or the GI bill to go to college it is a complete waste of time on paper. its a 4 year or longer black hole in which everyone who comes out of it is either glad they got out or mentally buck broken in that they're still trapped in the mindset. but, the urge to join is still there

      >the military is fucking atrocious. shit pay, shit treatment, shit jobs. if you're not doing it for the security clearance or the GI bill to go to college it is a complete waste of time on paper.
      It's not that simple. There's a lot to be said for character building in the military (at least for combat arms type shit, but even some POG shit to a degree).
      Not everyone benefits from it, a lot of people just get demoralized from it, but the shitty parts of the military offer a lot of chances to improve to what can be over simplified as stoicism and/or resourcefulness/confidence. Again, a lot of people get demoralized and just go
      >the world's shitting on me and I can't do anything to stop it.
      But you'll get a lot out of it if you can overcome that and naturally develop a mentality that you understand you can be in a shitty situation, bit still have the agency and will power to mitigate it without getting demoralized. It's something you can't develop just reading books about and shit, you've just gotta learn how to appreciate embracing the suck by actually doing it. No amount of gear or self lead or high speed skills can develop it, you just gotta jump into it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To use a metaphor. One thing that sucks about basic training is having to carry your rifle around with you everywhere. Even though a M16 is only 7 pounds or whatever, when you're carrying it on rucks as well as just all day for 8+ hours, if tires out your arms, even if you're fit, because the type of exercise carrying a rifle around all day isn't the same as going to the gym for an hour or two, moving furniture, etc. It's something you can really only get good at by just doing it. Civilians don't get the opportunity to do this because they can't carry their rifle around with them all day and do multiple rucks a day, really the military is the only way to do that.

        It's shit like that, that can't be quantified like lifting exercises, split times or even glorified in an Instagram post, but it's a real ability that matters. It's understandable why civilians can't do this stuff, however I think many fail to even realize this is a thing.

        Maybe a better example of this is to look at insurgents like the Taliban and Vietcong. Most of the ones doing the fighting weren't people that worked 9-5 white or blue collar jobs and went to shoot cool guns and do military drills on the weekends. They lived relatively primitive agrarian lives not all that different from their ancestors hundreds of years ago and when they became insurgents, they just incorporated some basic military skills and tactics into their lifestyle.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >military will teach me unique skill of carrying a rifle on a sling 24/7 and stoic courage of feeding on vomelet, also mechanized infantry resembles le dignified primitive lifestyle of muh ancestors, Iam /pol btw

          moron, just convert to islam and join isis in Terraria.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Doesn't understand what a metaphor is
            Can we get some non ESL shills/raiders for once? Go back to your discord to seethe about 4chan

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do they pay for college too? Not really excited about paying off college debt for the rest of my life

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Takes his entire life to pay off 20k
      lmao took me six months you lazy fuck

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        think its gonna be more than 20k
        im also not sure I'll get a job straight out of school

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's also nice about the reserves is how diverse they are. If you sign up for the army all the other grunts will be literal retards in one way or another but in the reserves you'll find yourself surrounded with everyone from a carpenter to a judge.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    remember watching a documentry on c4 about some pe teacher who was in the TA it's like the nasty girl of uk

    any way the dude is happy he goes there's, he has this fun time, he ends up stepping on some ied. he doesn't lose a limb but loses all his ability to move his hand. He comes back to uk. His life changes he can't be a pe teacher anymore he goes to rehab to be able to move his hand again its just the saddest shit ever. war is fucked up and it's not glamorse

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Blow shit up on weekends with friends
    >In the reserves
    You'll be lucky if you even do that once or twice a year and no, weapons qual doesn't count you fucking lame ass gay.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am going to highly guess you either just got in, or are a sadist trying to trick people.

    First, always look at National Guard first. They're generally going to pay you more and give better benefits. You will get deployed more, but the extra deployments are just short term disaster work, which is feel good stuff. Look into municipal or state jobs, they normally offer full pay while you're out. Many private companies do not, you will eat losses if you are paid less by the military.

    Now the main point, sure, the reservers are fine in peace time. You get to do some fun stuff, learn some useful skills, it opens the door for jobs when you're young and can help you pay for your education.

    They were not ok in the 2000s. You WOULD get deployed, multiple times. You WOULD struggle to find work because employers realized the reserves were always getting deployed. You WOULD likely end up in Iraq or Afghanistan because that's where the drastic manpower shortage was coming from. You very well might also get stop-lossed and have your contract extended on you.

    I've heard multiple senior officers say that having two wars at once came close to breaking the all volunteer force. I am inclined to agree. Unfortunately, I doubt that we use a draft or raise war taxes for the next war. The public hates sacrifice. They just deny shit is a problem if they have to pay for it (e.g., global warming is fake, RoundUp is good for you, every geopolitical issue is just Israel, infrastructure is fine, etc.).

    Obviously the wars also fucked the debt turbo hard, although somehow still less than the Bush tax cuts. Funny how Boomers slashed their own taxes all through their peak earning years and now get $1.5 trillion in cash payments from SS per year and free healthcare.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, I'm just a dude considering the USMC reserves. There's simply no point in me going AD. I make as much as a 4-star general in a year, I can choose where to live, fully covered medical and dental, travel a lot, bang hotties, and an absolutely cool job (pilot for a major airline). I don't have a degree yet, otherwise I would've gone ANG flying F-15s already.

      Even if USERRA allows me to keep the seniority at my job, the company doesn't pay for drill weekends. I'm way old (26) to deal with the bullshit of 18 y.o. kids getting screamed at by 23 y.o. E-5s and incompetent 23 y.o. butterbars. I just want to serve and have some fun. I certainly cannot deploy OCONUS given my job, so if NG and Army reserves deploy around it's a no-go.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you don’t have a good unit near you, then you probably won’t have the fun you want to have. If your only options are bulk fuels or some other logistics crap, all you’ll do is practice pumping gas or filling out hand receipts.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I certainly cannot deploy OCONUS given my job
        Marine reserves probably deploy more often than NG and Army Reserves

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If it's CONUS for a few days it's fine, if we're talking about two or more weeks that might not be fine

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dude Marine Reserves are the most likely to do big boy overseas deployments. NG and Reserves very highly depending on the type of unit, how much of a cluster fuck they are as opposed to kind of squared away, etc.

            Although one option is to go NG or Reserves and just go AWOL. Apparently they don't go after you at all, even if a cop pulls you over (if you AWOL from AD, they'll ass rape you then if a cop pulls you over). Although going AWOL from NG/Reserves will probably fuck your chances of ever getting a govt job or security clearance.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Again to clarify, I've only heard this 2nd hand. That if you go AWOL from reserves/NG they just scrub you from the rosters and don't put a BOLO on you. However if you go AWOL from active duty, they won't hunt you, but WILL put out a BOLO and when you get pulled over and they check your id they'll see it and seriously fuck you.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ew no. Why do you keep pushing to go AWOL? Ahahah

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because if you just wanna do military shit, but not actually deploy it's a good option as you can do OSUT or SOI and dip.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                AFAIK the USMC reserves don't deploy...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *they actually deploy but it's really limited, like 1000 or 2000 every year out of 30,000/40,000 reserve Marines. Quite unlikely, usually for Infantry.

                Granted it's a small sample size, but all three people I've know who joined the Marine reserves did real deployments and all well after the surge (2015-2018)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well the Corps was huge back then. The overall US Military size was about 3 million servicemembers. The surge boosted the USMC up to ~ 210,000 active duty Marines vs the projected 170,000 Marines for FD2030.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That would sit fine with me. The problem I have is that currently USERRA doesn't require certain companies (airlines in particular) to pay your salary if you're fulfilling your reserve duties.

                There could be a change: https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/employment-law/pages/court-report-userra-may-require-paying-reservists-on-military-leave.aspx

                It allows me to keep seniority but not my salary, which is a problem. Until then, I'm not that willing to join (and hoping they drop the chinkflu vax)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *they actually deploy but it's really limited, like 1000 or 2000 every year out of 30,000/40,000 reserve Marines. Quite unlikely, usually for Infantry.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Dude Marine Reserves are the most likely to do big boy overseas deployments. NG and Reserves very highly depending on the type of unit, how much of a cluster fuck they are as opposed to kind of squared away, etc.

              This is not even close to true

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Marine reserves probably deploy more often than NG and Army Reserves

                They do not. The Army Reserves and NG are 50% of the total strength of the entire Army. They deploy a lot more because they have to, otherwise Active units would have unfeasibly high optempo.

                The Marine Reserves are 15% of the Marine Corps overall strength. Other branches don't use their reserve compenents as extensively as the Army because they are a much smaller portion of the forces. They are true wartime reserves. The only exception is the Air National Guard which is similar to Army National Guard, but is still much smaller in comparison. I don't know who told you that bullshit that USMCR deploys, but they lied.

                >Marine Reserves are 15% of strength
                This just helps my point and both of you are clearly neverserved. They dip into active duty before they go to reserves/NG. When I deployed on AD they filled all our vacant spots with AD soldiers they TCSed to our unit.

                Again, unit type matters greatly as well. A lot of specialized units like specialized commo and intel (cyber, satellite, etc) deploy a lot, but they also do a lot more training in a year than just a 2 week AT. If you're a truck driver in a Iowa NG battalion that actually only has the strength of a company, you're not going to deploy unless there's some surge type situation or you seek one out individually.

                Also to go back to the specialized units again. Those types of units aren't filled with average joes due to how often they go on orders for training an deployments. Nearly all of them have a very similar govt civilians job. For example I work in IT for a govt contractor and nearly everyone is in one of these specialized commo reserve units. The company's okay with it because these are pretty much the only people with the technical skills AND clearances to do the civilian job. Same with intelligence. I know someone who's in a reserve intel unit that does shit and it's the same thing, him and all the other officers have civilian jobs at intel agencies where they do very similar work.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To clarify, the Army has a much deeper pool of AD to pull from and for combat arms they'll pull from AD at all costs before having to call up a nastygirl. The Marines don't have as deep of an AD pool and so have to go to Reservists sooner.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's completely backwards and you're looking at it the wrong way. What you need to consider is the percentage of the force. The USMC's reserve component is somewhere around 10% of their total force, where in the Army it's around 50%. The Army literally must use Guard and Reserve in order to function, a MAGTF won't be broken by lack of reserve support.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've been in the Guard for 2 years, guy. There are tons of people in my unit have deployed within the last two years.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Marine reserves probably deploy more often than NG and Army Reserves

          They do not. The Army Reserves and NG are 50% of the total strength of the entire Army. They deploy a lot more because they have to, otherwise Active units would have unfeasibly high optempo.

          The Marine Reserves are 15% of the Marine Corps overall strength. Other branches don't use their reserve compenents as extensively as the Army because they are a much smaller portion of the forces. They are true wartime reserves. The only exception is the Air National Guard which is similar to Army National Guard, but is still much smaller in comparison. I don't know who told you that bullshit that USMCR deploys, but they lied.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reserves and NG are fine if you choose wisely (Air Force). It's peacetime. The fun is over for a while but there is nothing so glorious as a vested government retirement.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's alright, it's also a total waste of time though 99% of the time. They only point of staying reserves is if you go a job with TS to maintain said TS for your civilian career if you're saying a contractor and know your employer won't pay for a reinvestigation

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've a reservist for 10 years next year in UK military. I still got to deploy in the closing years of afgan, I've still been all over the world on training excerises, shooting and blowing shit up.
    And at the end if it all i get to go home, fuck my GF and work my comfy regular job.
    Most of my full time counterparts hate being in full time and plan to leave, a huge amount just serve 5 years and get out. They have bounced all over the country in shit postings so have no roots anywhere, and most have no idea what to do for a real job or how to perform in one.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >join reserves for the extra 15 or whatever grand per year
    >tied to your area for 6 years
    >if theres a war and you get called up youll lose your job and get paid military poverty wages instead lmao
    Nah bro Im not about losing my house to play ass tag oncr a month

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The money is chump change but you aren't forced to live anywhere and you literally cannot legally lose your job or be evicted from your house on deployment.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Being a goy trooper

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hurry up and terminate your bloodline

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you actually want to protect this country, join the border patrol or coast guard. The rest of the military doesn’t actually serve the citizens of the United States.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >letting migrants go and harassing you for having 5 instead of 6 life vests
      Great thanks

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be 28 year old leaf bro
    >no wife or kids, just job, hobbies and lots of sports

    how many leaf reservists are here? I'm thinking about it. Extra money for working out, shooting and meeting new people sounds cool. Is 28 too old?

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going NG for the sweet bennies since I have a kid on the way and having a kid is cheap as fuck with tricare.
    Also NG has 19th and 20th group. My state has 19th. Hoping to land in the support battalion for Airborne and SFBCCS and some other fun trainings.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the milfags on here, I already make mid six figures, can buy whatever guns/accessories I want, already have a Masters degree, own my own shit, not a welfare queen, what is the point of joining the reserves or any type of military? checkmate?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can have all that and join SF in the guard. Don't be a pussy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can make that much in SF plus all the bennies? How? I make as much as a fucking Colonel in the air force and I'm not even 30.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You legally cannot be fired for joining the reserves or guard. You can keep your 6 figure job and do cool guy shit.
          Now granted, SF in the guard isn't the typically 1 weekend a month/2 weeks a year shit, they work a hell of a lot more than a typical MOS.
          But this is PrepHole isn't it?
          Don't you want to:
          >HAHO jump
          >in full kit
          >on oxygen
          >at night
          >under NODS

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do they train every weekend? how's the schedule work? and wouldn't you have to have a certain score or "area" on the ASVAB you have to obtain?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You need a 110 GT and a 100 CO to do the 18 series jobs. Except 18D is 110 GT and the CO score is swapped for a different score, can't remember off the top of my head.
              I dont consider myself very smart and I qualify for literally every MOS in the army after I studied hard as fuck for the GT category. Only got 79 on the percentile but my lowest line score was 114.
              Anyone can study up and hit the scores they want.
              You also have to pass a test to see if you can learn a 2nd language since all green berets are bilingual.
              As for how often they train, I don't know for sure but I hear it's way way more than conventional guard. They also have opportunities to go to all kinds of schools like free fall, dive, sniper school, ranger school (the leadership course not to be confused with RASP, though I hear they have to attend RASP2 to be eligible for promotion past a certain rank) and all the other cool schools and suck schools.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >OP asks about joining reserves
      >WHY ARE YOU MILFAGS TRYING TO GET ME TO JOIN THE RESERVES!?!?!?
      If you're just trying to flex I was active duty and did a combat deployment and now make 6 figures working from home and I'm still in my 20's too. Now what bitch?

      If you're seriously asking though. One thing I've though about is if I own a house out right, or am very close, in the next ten years. I could go into the reserves to make enough money to pay the bills and have health insurance and all that and not even need to work a civilian job. Although in this scenario I'd probably do free lance type work or something for extra spending money and to stay busy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Join now to start racking up years for the retirement pay my dude.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For you, it'd be if you wanted to do it. Some people literally do it as a hobby, I've worked with a lot of corporate types and have met 3 different S/NCOs that were attorneys in their civilian life.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about the National Guard?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same shit but with actual combat MOSs.
      The Army reserves only infantry is based in Hawaii if I'm not mistaken.
      Guard has SF as well. 19th and 20th group spread between a few states.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is a few other differences like NG can deploy at a state level and reserve units typically send individual soilders to fill billets rather than deploying as a unit, whereas the guard is the opposite and typically deploys as a NG unit. Although usually through volunteering you can fill an individual billet from the guard.

        But yes it's largely the same shit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Although I should add that individual billets are usually for NCOs and above. AD typically doesn't have trouble filling junior enlisted slots and its usually much harder to get promoted in the reserves and guard, so those billets are normally filled by people who got rank in AD and then went guard/reserve as opposed to people who started as junior enlisted in the guard.

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