if you used wing chun in a street fight you’d go to jail for maiming which is 20-life in many states
if you used wing chun in a street fight youd go to jail for maiming which is 20-life in many states
if you used wing chun in a street fight you’d go to jail for maiming which is 20-life in many states
oh yeah?
the anti kung fu brainwashing is so intense it takes two words to dismiss a weapon so powerful as kung fu
Cool sex positions OP, try them on your boyfriend last night?
Can you maim someone by punching them in the neck and solar plexus?
>full power hit with proper technique to the solar plexus and xyphoid process
definitely a fight stopper against a regular jackass
>the same hit to the carotid
disrupts blood flow to brain, unconscious or wobbly
>the same hit to the throat
they could actually die of asphyxiation
>disrupts blood flow to brain, unconscious or wobbly
This is an urban legend, even if you managed to permanently,fully occlude a carotid artery (impossible with a punch), the other three are still working and will keep the brain supplied.
>they could actually die of asphyxiation
The striking power needed to cause enough swelling to occlude the tracea is well beyond punching force, let alone performance dance stuff like wing change.
in a defence class Karens were instructed to run over the neck of an assailant if they ever get the chance of doing it.
would that be enought?
>run over the neck of an assailant
Like specifically run over someone's neck with a car? Are all the assailants pic related?
How utterly moronic do you have to be to think that women's knees work like this?
Wing chun is a fantasy theater "martial art" that was typically non-contact or touch-contact until the 60's and even today is so performative and pussified that virtually all wing chun comps ban ANY type of strike above the neck.
Seriously, imagine training a "self defense" martial art that refuses to allow you to ever actually strike an opponent in the head in either sparring or comps; no other martial art even comes close to how useless and impractical wing chun is.
Pic related is just a sampler of how gay even the "hardcore" full contact wing chun comp rules typically are.
Key take aways:
>No strikes of any kind to the nose, mouth or eyes.
>No punches or kicks of any kind to the head.
>Slapping fighting to the head if it is only allowed if it is a "touch" strength strike.
>Strikes must be "controlled" i.e. must pull punches.
>Strikes must be bridged i.e. your arm must be in contact with the opponent's at the start of the strike.
>Cannot kick below the knee.
>No pins
>No tackles
>No wrestling/submissions if the aggressor has more than one knee on the ground.
>No elbows
>No straight arm locks
And people have the gall to call it a martial art.
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don't thing that with a car they would be really concerned of being chased, but why knot
if is all bullshit explain why you two can't do this.
So stamping on their neck? That's fricking moronic, because nobody is going to let you stamp on their neck unless they're fully unconscious. They'd be better of kicking them on the ground, but I mean any man pathetic enough to get taken down by a woman and then kicked is not a realistic threat.
>If a system has survived decades and centuries, that probably means there is some part of it worth looking at.
The fact that wing chun has survived centuries is the reason that it is now worthless as self defense or sport. Many hundreds of years ago, there might have been a solid base for the art and their fluid blocking thing might have worked against untrained peasants (or it might not have), but wing chung has been huffing its own farts with non-contact training and technique inbreeding for so long that any practical aspects of the art are lost to time, in favor of rarefied, impractical methods that do not work on someone who is fighting back instead of being a compliant training partner.
I mean we're talking about a "martial" art where less than 5% of practitioners have ever sparred and even ring competitions forbid full power strikes or any hits to the head (which is a big improvement from pre-ip man days when comps were all fully non-contact). Wing chun has as much knowledge to teach you about fighting as a couple of kids hitting each other with toy lightsabres.
>Krav Maga
Crab Manga is 99% mcdojo performance art and marketing and 1% practicality.
>alot of techniques originate from the Chinese Martial arts.
MMA is influenced by Jap, Korean and SEA martial arts, not kung fu. Pretty decent bait though.
Up until like 150 years ago European boxing was usually an anything goes sport that incorporated kicks, headbutts, wresting, throws etc. but of course people regularly getting maimed or dying in the ring didn't sit well with modern civilization, so it slowly transformed into what we know today.
>Crab Manga is 99% mcdojo performance art and marketing and 1% practicality.
For how much you know about Boxing you seem to know very little about Krav Maga's formation and (short) history
>The fact that wing chun has survived centuries
Wing Chun's misty origins go back to the late 1800s and anti-Qing rebels in southern China. It arguably didn't exist until 1969 since even that description is hard to verify.
>The Ving Tsun Athletic Association was founded in 1967 by Cantonese master Ip Man and seven of his senior students.[28] The first public demonstration of the Wing Chun fighting system, according to Ip Man, took place in Hong Kong at an official exhibition fight in the winter of 1969
Compare to Shaolin which has 1500 years of clear documentation, or Tai Chi styles that can trace directly back several hundred.
Slap-Fu was never effective, except perhaps for hand fighting on boats. Even then, Tiger and Crane is far more effective with it's deep stances.
Taekwondo is lore practical ans muay thai shit pushed kung fu
Lay of the tequila, fren.
It actually takes very little force to completely stop the breathing of someone on fentenyl.
Zero if they take enough of it.
Reminder that the communists destroyed all the old martial arts traditions and icons and replaced them with fake shit like wing chun
If anybody tells you his kung fu school is older than 100 years he's a moron
Solar plexus shot is legit, I've dropped someone with one before
I have seen no evidence for either of the other ones working
Anons should learn to box (and wrestle/grapple with and without the jacket)
They didn’t destroy them all, my master’s masters all fled during the revolution. Sucks being an MD and kung fu guy when the Red Army comes rolling in.
It hurts to read that.
Sanda 100% depends on the trainer or teacher. Perhaps an explanation, too. It is derived from Shaolin so is essentially kickboxing with throws and grappling. It should be good, can be great but mostly sucks due to poor transmission and training.
Sure but they’ll either die or recover. None of those will maim you, right?
>xyphoid process
You should not mention such things here as a student of the way how can you truly understand when you mind is so loose.
You would get knee pain
I used wing chun once and I still couldn't overcome the thirty Black folk coming at me
50% of murders in America are unsolved
>50% of marriages end in divorce
You have a better chance of getting away with murder than having a healthy relationship
Those are the exact same odds, moron.
most disheartening thing I've read all day.
If it makes you feel better anon those murders are just Black folk that the cops don't bother to investigate
Nice digits btw checked and heil'd
>did u get shot?
>i don’t get shot baby i shoot
Wing Chun is great if you're always holding push daggers in your hands. Otherwise the striking is useless, but some of the foundational stuff can be used.
>t. Wing-chugger
The conditioning and strength training is always useful, particularly stuff like smashing your wrists into other people's wrists for years. It'll let you win a fight against someone who sat on the couch instead. You'd still lose against someone who spent the same amount of time learning boxing, kickboxing or bjj though, even taekwondo is probably better as well as long as you're doing regular full contact sparring.
TKD has a lot of dumb shit but the kicks are extremely useful and pretty much everyone has poached them as a result.
Not true, their kicks suck because they're for point fighting not doing damage. They're quick but have no power. Notice how Muay Thai completely dominates over TKD in MMA?
>Notice how Muay Thai completely dominates over TKD in MMA?
No? Roundhouse kicks, side kicks, front kicks, and back kicks are used a lot.
I agree, just gotta do what Bruce Lee did and find what works for you out of different systems.
Everybody wang chung tonight
I know that stance!
This is bullshit though, human legs bend inwards, not outwards. It's an evolutionary trait which hasn't been phased out yet from tree dwelling.
not sure if you can't read or if you're implying woman are not human
But they are not human :^)
tfw you can sit in the W-position and are not a woman
Every time I see a b***h running like this in an anime I want to beat the nearest slant with a fricking cinderblock.
weird i can sit in this position but my wife cant
>which gun stance?
Well this thread isn't what I thought it was upon first reading the image.
how is pigeon-toe not the worst possible stance without getting silly cross-legged?
Jesus just go mma train for a few years and you're going whoop any wing chung frick before they even do their gay stance...
>art of slapping and mouseboxing invented by women for women
>barely good enough for fighting off pissdrunk horny husbands trying to initiate sex
police, judge and jury will call you every homophobic slur and laugh at your new pink wheelchair.
What's the joke I'm not getting here?
In Britain you would have to register your limbs as offensive weapons, I don't even think you could leave your house without a special loicense.
If you took wing chun thinking that you'd fight like Bruce Lee you're an idiot
Sanda is much better and even then it's inferior to regular old muay thai
this is a bait thread but I’ll repeat what I usually say to these posts.
There is no perfect martial art, and I would hesitate to say that any one is better than any other. That’s because there’s a problem of definition: who decides what is Muay Thai or wing chun or karate? There is no “canonical” version of these things. A martial artist who has done serious practice and sparring using any style as their basis will encounter weaknesses, openings, flaws. Learning and growing as a martial artist means adapting and changing your skills to face different challenges.
If a system has survived decades and centuries, that probably means there is some part of it worth looking at. Otherwise, challengers would have beat up the practitioners long ago.
People shitting on Wing Chun are the same people who praise MMA/Krav Maga without realizing that alot of techniques originate from the Chinese Martial arts.
>nobody knew how to throw a punch until a little chinese man invented it two hundred years ago
Exquisite bait which I will now fall for
Boxing has a richer lineage than any eastern martial art, resembling its modern form at least as far back as Ancient Greece, then through Rome to Britain, where it was a martial art and method of self defence, then became a sporting spectacle. Going through various rule changes over the millennia, at times resembling modern MMA which can also be seen as a spiritual successor of Ancient Greece's equivalent.
To say nothing of wrestling - we were wrestling before we were "human" and nonhuman predatory mammals wrestle too.
Got him with the big country nelson. That is blockable if youre prepared for that and can be blocked with kung fu blocks.
In fact he got caught trying to box..In kung fu logic hes at his most vulnerable while fully extended. Some kung fu preaches punching causes karmic debt and full extension is most vulnerable so they dont punch at all and emphasize blocking. Its how that one guy broke his arm. He was mad nothing was getting through so he decided to punch harder and broke his arm against my impenetrable Kung fu blocking. Right after repeatedly punched his face about 15 times on the counter, toying w him.
Oh and this kung fu logic is right about this karma fighting debt system. Because the kid w the broken arm was the cousin of the kid running around deaf and he wanted to fight after his cousin went deaf. And it was more karma debt accrued when they wanted to go 2 on 1 with a knife after I punched up the other kid and his arm healed. Whoever youre punching's got Sisters and brothers and cousins IRL fites.
Oh and the 3rd fite ended when I talked them out of stabbing me to death by saying hey man. I dont want to fight no more. I fought you and you already so as far as I can tell this is done and to take it any farther is stupid over burning the moronic kid with lit cigarette butts by flicking them at him.I think thats when the one kid kind of changed his mental scope to realize were not fighting to avenge his deaf cousin or his broken arm. We're fighting cuz lil jose is flicking cigarette butts at moronic kids and wants to fite and just bit off more than he can chew and now has to walk around deaf as his karma load. So instead of stabbing me to death he hauled off and slapped the shit out of lil Jose. Which came as a complete surprise. Really nobody wins. Everyone walks away all fricked up including me cuz I got shaky legs from fighting all these morons trying to stab me. It doesnt feel good. Maybe after the fact it feels a little good this kids running around deaf but only because you want him to feel bad like you do. So u say good. Its not like anyone is feeling good about it. I mean you can post your little posts and say no I feel good. But your bullshit and Ill probably break your fingers IRL of your keyboards. Thats not going to be making you feel good.
I like feeling good. Kids make me feel good.
I had an experience like that to. You see there was a martial arts club and many of the members were bullies in the local school an old man trained me however and I entered a competition against them in kar at e. They did not fight fair and tried and succeeded in injuring me but I still won the final by using the flying crane one legged stance. You should have heard the roar of the crowd. I got the girl as well.
ITS SCHIZO HOURS
Time to bate only kids
People shit on wing chun because it's a performative art, not a combat sport. Boxing and MMA utilize movements that have practical effects. If you choose to use martial arts as a lifestyle practice that's up to you, but it's been repeatedly demonstrated that neutered eastern martial arts that are incredibly constrained are utterly useless in a realistic scenario. If you train in boxing and bjj for a year you are going to have a real chance of beating the absolute shit out of someone that is your equal size with no training. You absolutely do not have that same assurance practicing wing chun, which is why just about any video of them crossing against another combat art shows an embarrassingly one-sided fight.
These people are a fricking joke. You wanna waste your life on it, be my guest. But you're going to get fricking smoked if you fight someone that is even fricking interested in fighting, let alone practices it.
A wing chun guy says he hates seeing people "trapped in the art". Here thats not the case. That guy has just never sparred or been in a real fight in his life. He has low experience. This is the case for Kung fu. They say that you level up to know all of the kung fu moves then move into sparring and it takes about a week to stop floundering like a fish in sparring and then another week to actually see any kung fu moves applied to sparring. This is why people say oh, jiu jitsu is good, boxing is good MMA and wrestling is good because the influence on sparring. Kung fu based arts there is not alot of sparring and when there is its within the art. Which does not apply today in real life fights. So its like fighting a surprise south paw. You train Kung fu vs kung fu then this guy starts his own interpretation of boxing or MMA and it surprises you.
Ive been in 2 fights where I only used kung fu. One ended with the guy permanently deaf and running away. The other ended with the guys arm broken. Not to brag because where I am now, with fundamentals of non kung fu I could have easily killed both of them outright. But I consider the Kung fu as the mother martial art and dont appreciate shit talkers.
>where I am now, with fundamentals of non kung fu I could have easily killed both of them outright.
Actually where my opponents are today, are probably leveled up to doing multiple drive bys on your house or chilled out and not wanting beef..So I guess all forms of hand to hand are obsolete and an impotent joke.
Nobody cares what you think homosexual, video was of a master. He very clearly had NOT fought, you are right. And that's because the martial art doesn't actual have any real world application because it's a fricking performative art. Imagine if Tyson got in the ring and started running away like this gay when he was hit in the face once. Wing chun is useless, and so is whatever gay martial art you think you're good at
european historically had less of a need of complex unarmed martial arts, because of rule of diminuishing returns.
the one that get most to earn from fancy martial arts are women and small framed people (asians) because of low upper body to lower body strenght ratio.
upper body strenght is the bottleneck of the cinematic chain of box punching.
european men having not that limit, had always just doing fine with boxing and grappling since at least dawn of history
Boxing is extremely complicated, I dunno what the frick you're talking about.
after little time you go to box gym to practice boxing not learning it.
in ching chong arts you go to the place to learn for years.
if you're not get it this way, is not that boxing is complicated and neither are my post, it's you that are special needs
That isn't English you fricking gunless moron.
>european historically had less of a need of complex unarmed martial arts, because of
Because they concentrated on the armed martial arts. Arms control was more Asian thing.
europe is not the US.
depending on the age we talk about, proper weapons were allowed to nobles only, feudal folk had agricultural tools as weapons, the ching chongs nunchaku was based on an agricultural tools.
later with urbanization, high population density and so more chance of people meeting and killing each other law become even more restrictive.
practical examples: in spain normal folks were forbidden swords and daggers, they had the navaja folding knife which was an all around utility knife, but they were forbidden to have open position locking spring and shit because then they would be to stabby, with refinement they still managed to make it working quite well even without locks, and that's the story of how you get 2 foot long folding knifes.
in france port cities brawls were commons, so that there was a law specifingly giving harsher punisment if the death of someone was caused by a punch (specifically closed fist) so they invented new fighning stiles incorporating kicks and open hand strikes.
small frame mean thin.
lanklet are small framed, manlet may and ofter were tick.
>european men having not that limit
People were midgets even in the 1700s and most Europeans didn't really start getting 'big' (read as: 170+ cms) until the late 1800s.
it's not about size, is about how strenght is distribuited across the body.
forget asians for a second, take example of man and women, the woman is small frames compared to men.
both have to run jump ecc, so both need to have lower body capable of X times their body wheight strength.
then upper body strenght, man with little training can do pull up and so lift at lest 1 X their body wheight, woman can't to pull up for shit unless they train a lot.
that is the bottleneck in kinematic chain of boxing, upper body that can't keep up with the force of lower body.
>he uses a fighting style named after some boomer 80's band
Lol, lmao even
Low quality bait.
EVERYBODY HAVE FUN TONIGHT
EVERYBODY HAVE FUN TONIGHT
ChUnng, eh?
>Be me, Elderly Chang, desperately trying not to shit my robes
>Clench that shit hard, can't do this in front of the students
>"Master, is that stance the secret to your technique?"
>Oh god, please just leave
>"Y-y-yes, young grasshopper. It...balances your chi and...leaves no opening for enemy attacks or something. Now go punch a tree behind the temple or something. I need to meditate!"
>"Yes master, I won't fail you."
>Finally the chucklefricks are running off
>Oh frick no, it's too late
>Absolutely demolish my pajamas with a torrent of brown sludge
>Quickly clean it up before the tards return
>Never tell a goddamn soul
>Now have it as my legacy
Chinese martial arts are so fricking dumb. This has absolutely nothing to do with fighting.
Yet another thing that idiot kung fu nerds don't understand about fighting is that being really really good at one thing is better than rehearsing ten thousand things that look cool that you can't do
Bruce Lee's friend who wrote his lines for him really nailed this one with the ten thousand kicks thing
One big reason boxers win so many fights against people who say "I would just gouge his eyes / kick his groin / kick his shin / headbutt him / strike his throat / dim mak his heart / blah blah blah" is because:
Punching someone in the face is just such a universally useful skill that being good at just that, is better than having a whole arsenal of things you're bad at (because you've never actually done them, you've just pretended to do them)
And training just punching, brings with it a host of other really really useful skills, like instinctive head movement, a good guard, proper understanding of distance and timing, stable stance and tight footwork, etc. You know, all the things that are FUNDAMENTAL to FIGHTING.
Shut up homosexual. It takes a life time to gain amy strength in their weak ass techniques.
>be chink
>design feminin style of fighting
>base it in no way around the hips and generate no power by use of your hips.
>be meme martial art thats worthless
T. Guy who used to shit push kung fu students.
Bruce Lee started to EDC a Model 19 after he became famous