If you sent the US military (or any modern military) to the past people would think they're aliens.

If you sent the US military (or any modern military) to the past people would think they're aliens.

What would a military 100 years in the future look like/compose of?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Compared to every other military on the Planet the American military is basically an invading alien army, only replace "dying of the cold" with "gets bored and goes home"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Descend upon planet in warship so advanced it can hardly be comprehended
      >Annihilate every population center and decimate the global ecosystem with impossible swiftness
      >Against all the planet's armies and all the planet's machines, suffer not even a scratch
      >"k, I'm bored."
      >leaves
      Based Spore galactic stage player

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >invades country
      >says nothing
      >crushes military
      >destroys infrastructure
      >crashes economy
      >gets bored and goes home
      Based

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Delusional mutts.
      I've seem how rusted and outdated half of us ships are.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        post your navy

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bunch of rusted 40yr old ships

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can't help but notice the lack of an image on your post sir

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Half of those ship are about to breakdown. US navy is about to downsize by 50% because you can't maintain your ships anymore

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ?
            can't post navy?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think if you sent an Abrams back to ww1 they would still think its a tank.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And they'd call the Vatican for assistance once they saw the turbine engine.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1922 bros could look at everything we have and be like "wow, future guns", "wow, fufure plane" and "wow, helicopter" but it wouldn't be beyond their grasp at all.
        They were already theorizing about all that stuff already.
        Night vision and computers would blow their minds tho

        The first gas turbine was patented in 1899. Turbomachinery was well understood, their metallurgy just sucked

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder how quickly a 1940's-era group of tech specialists for a glowing think tank could backwards engineer a modern top of the line smart phone. Personally, I think the second they saw the camera functioning the way digital does these days most of them would have stroke. Let alone touch screen shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’d probably only take them a few months max to figure out how any of it works. Nothing we have today technology wise is particularly that far beyond what physicists/mathematicians/engineers in the 40’s already understood.

            Physics pretty much hasn’t advanced at all since then outside of Fourier Optics and Feynman’s contributions.

            The only problem would be actually manufacturing any of it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ehhh. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. It would be basically impossible for even the best 1940s teams to RE any modern technology. They wouldn't even have microscopes that could resolve the largest structural features of any of the ICs or major subassemblies of a smartphone like the battery or memory. They would have no way to dump, let alone read or reverse compile any of the software, firmware or drivers. Even if instead of a working example they were given the tech data package for a smartphone they wouldn't be able to build any of the components of it since the manufacturing methods for every single one of them needed new physics discoveries that wouldn't occur for another 60-70 years.

              People who say "hurr physics hasn't advanced" are either talking about fundamental theoretical physics or aren't physicists. Applied science has progressed at an ever faster rate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s fair, I worded that kind of sloppily. What I was trying to say is that nothing we have technologically is all that far beyond anything that was already understood at a theoretical level, or operating off any principles that weren’t entirely understood by academics of the period. But that none of it could be manufactured.

                But yeah, I was talking about theoretical physics, not applied sciences. My background is in optics, so I’m aware of the advances in engineering. But to the best of my knowledge, there’s not really been much of an actual shift in optical theory since the 70’s with advances in statistical Fourier analysis for remote sensing.

                But I have a hard time seeing someone like Neumann get transported to the present and be all that confused.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I think we agree. They wouldn't be confused but I don't think they'd learn much. I think the most important thing they'd learn would just be from material analysis; that semiconductors were the best way forward for computers. Maybe something about turing completeness. If they could turn it on and keep it powered then they'd learn a hell of a lot about computer science, probably enough to get about 50 years of theory knocked out in probably 5. Other than that it's really hard to see what they'd learn.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would be amused to hear a modern day tech astute industry person try to explain digital technology to an early to mid 20th century scientist without sounding like a magical elf to them. I grant that some of the concepts would be easy and even rudimentary, but others would be extremely difficult to grasp without working examples. It's like science fiction in the early 80's thinking a mere single gig of RAM is an astronomical or even unheard of amount for a personal computer but now have someone try to explain the process of how we got there and why a terabyte of RAM is commonplace.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Wanna know how this touch screen works? Jellyfish bro, we got jellyfish technology.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it is powered by the gods

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your microwave, car, coffee maker and phone WILL have camera in there with a glowing man checking out your balls from orbit every morning before work and you will like it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >herosaurus my beloved

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or the nazis since they built some.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In 1922 the nazis hadn't done anything other then get a little too excited at a munich beer hall

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the U.S. navy already had multiple turbine engine ships in the water by then and were in the process of building more.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How difficult would it be for WW1 forces to defeat an Abrams?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When it runs out of ammo and fuel. The thermal sensor on an abrams means it can see a damn well better than 1914 infantry. WW2 it would still stomp on everything, but would have to avoid certain tanks which it can do. Essentially if you gave it infinite fuel (which it can kinda do already) and infinite ammo. You aren't stopping it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >avoid certain tanks
          Were there actually any ww1 tanks with cannons that could scratch an Abrams armor? Genuine question

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No but there was artillery that could destroy it, and artillery crew still practiced direct fire a lot in those days.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        plenty of large bore artillery in that war, and minefields

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not very if it is alone. They fielded significantly larger artillery back then that would absolutely destroy an M1 with a direct hit, so once it runs out of gas, which will happen quickly, it's just a matter of hitting it with one of the 400lb shells they used to use.

        https://i.imgur.com/O0qa0MK.jpg

        If you sent the US military (or any modern military) to the past people would think they're aliens.

        What would a military 100 years in the future look like/compose of?

        I think people from 1918 would actually be surprised at how little has changed. Truly autonomous drones would be a big change, but those don't exist yet.

        Technological advances run into the hard limits of physics and stop improving as rapidly. It's still hard to get shit into orbit. Planes don't fly much faster than they did decades ago (and with fighters they are generally slower). Innovations are mostly about how to deliver the same sorts of kinetic energy more effectively (EFPs) or accurately (guided shells).

        The big potential game changers would be :
        >Autonomous weapons systems. Not just an AFV that can go from point A to B without crashing, but drone swarms that can carry out entire combat missions alone, dynamics doggos that don't need human prompts to support infantry, etc.

        >Effective high efficiency coil guns, rail guns, or mass drivers. This would allow projectiles to hit much higher speeds, while weapons using this technology would have far lighter ammunition. Penetrating armor would become much easier and evasion would become king.

        >Effective power generation for either of the former, be it small fusion reactors inside armored vehicles for charging, beaming down energy from satalites generating solar power, etc.

        >High functioning laser interceptors. This is the other solid counter to coil guns hurling shit at you at Mach 12, that's still basically standing still compared to light weapons.

        >Cheap orbital launch, likely from coil guns or something similar. No need for bases or carriers, launch drones and craft in front a continent away. Warfare would totally change due to geography melting away.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, this is closer to the truth. I don't think educated urbane Westerners would be THAT shocked at just the sight of modern combat systems. Scientists and engineers trying to analyze them would be very curious about how such tight tolerances are manufactured. LCDs would be very exciting for them. They would probably be very impressed with microcircuitry and scratch their heads over how such a thing could be produced. They'd be super interested in semi-conductors. Something like a turbine engine would give them a boner -- because how they would quickly understand the concept and lead directly to major technical innovations. The most alien thing to them might be single-crystal titanium, nanotubes, and stuff like that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think there will be fusion reactors small enough or cheap enough to be put in a tank within the next 100 years.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The "Planet Fall" books are written by a retired colonel who had tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Great books, but some of the tech is so low tech that it's silly. Like 300 hundred years from now there are still human hackers. Or that humans will even be on the battlefield at all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You really think African's will evolve much 300 years into the future? I can imagine them rushing US cyborgs with flip flops, chinos and those ghetto-hyperblaster AK's from Elysium.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >those ghetto-hyperblaster AK's from Elysium
        underrated tbh

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CWIS systems will outpace missile technology and then we'll go back to using kinetic weapons tbh.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    planes existed, helicopters existed, tanks existed, guns existed...

    So what we have now just more smooth, and faster.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No missiles, drones, nuclear bombs, cyberweapons 100 years ago

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they were experimenting with rudimentary cruise missiles at the tail end of WW1.
        Not a gotcha, I just think they're neat

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        long range shells, balloons, bigger box of tnt, arson in records hall.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, but even more so. We've hit somewhat of a plateau in military tech over the last couple decades. I think the biggest change would be a loss of emphasis on suppressive fire in favor of extremely accurate direct fire via smart optics. The NGSW is the start which is why they're basically giving everyone a DMR.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's some ass-pull predictions in now particular order
    >MBT leans more toward indirect fire than direct, guided by their own drone(s)
    >APS/Laser APS on everything
    >eWAR on every vehicle to counter smart loitering munitions
    >Infantry almost exclusively sticks to their hides or armored transports as walking in the open is practically a death sentence
    >thermal and other band camouflages become very highly advanced to the point thermal imagers are not the edge they are today, but also still necessary equipment
    >drones get bigger and badder, replacing the attack helicopter completely
    Can't think of much else

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Laser APS
      High power laser weaponry/defense would require widespread eye protection, as a reflection of a reflection of a point defense laser would blind unprotected soldiers.
      Passive eye protection could tint/darken your vision too much during the day, and reactive protection would still interfere with traditional optics and night vision equipment, unless all of these are also fitted with high quality eye protection seals.

      The solution is obvious, integrate all optics and protection into one device.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It all makes sense now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the best timeline

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Passive eye protection could tint/darken your vision too
        Most spectacles have this as purchase option already to become sunglasses during day use. The issue with current photochromics is that the tint takes at least a minute to fully darken a given lens. The advancement would be rapid transitioning lenses. Smart glass also already exists that can be programmed to glaze from clear to opaque, but the issue there is cost.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly, it will be easier and cheaper to just get ultra low latency VR headsets and cameras developed and have it so that you don't have to worry about getting blinded by a laser outside the band that your eargear is rated for. Frying a camera is annoying, but easily replaceable, especially if they're designed to be modular with a pop out/in solution which would also allow you to issue upgrades and mission specific equipment while still using a standard platform.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Small, Tank and APC ready drone swarm catapults will 100% be a thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with most of these. I would also add:

      >When infantry comes out is rarely uses their small arms. They mostly use their optics/rifle fire control to direct ground or air drones to hit a target, or to call in guided shells/mortars. Shooting your gun will become an emergency thing you try to avoid since it gives away your position. Over time infantry's main role will be to shepard drones and name higher level mission decisions for them, but even before that it will mostly be calling in drone direct fire or indirect fire using their optics.

      Also I think armor will keep getting better, past the point where higher powered rounds are feasible, leading to a wider use of small, fairly flat trajectory grenades (maybe 20mm) for armored opponents, or just having your drone, which can handle recoil, blast them with .50 BMG.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with most of these. I would also add:

      >When infantry comes out is rarely uses their small arms. They mostly use their optics/rifle fire control to direct ground or air drones to hit a target, or to call in guided shells/mortars. Shooting your gun will become an emergency thing you try to avoid since it gives away your position. Over time infantry's main role will be to shepard drones and name higher level mission decisions for them, but even before that it will mostly be calling in drone direct fire or indirect fire using their optics.

      Also I think armor will keep getting better, past the point where higher powered rounds are feasible, leading to a wider use of small, fairly flat trajectory grenades (maybe 20mm) for armored opponents, or just having your drone, which can handle recoil, blast them with .50 BMG.

      So basically Starcraft 2 with Terran armor? 20-30mm giant rifles to carry around with superhuman exoskeleton upgrades? Like the Anamatrix in the combat suits or Starcraft.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only correct answer

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes they would think these pink and blue haired men with breasts and comically large muttoid zogbots are aliens

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lots of robots, probably. I don't think they'll entirely replace humans on the battlefield (well, not within 100 years), but there will definitely be a lot of 'supplemental' roles carried out by automated weapons/vehicles or weapons systems/vehicles which do the whole 'man-machine teaming' thing.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People would think they were gays

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    space weaponry, though in secret unless that agreement to not weaponize space gets torn up

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How long was the alien war vs Earth in Half-Life 2? The Combine-Earth war. I forget.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hundreds of millions were killed in the seven hour war

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's insane. I wonder how many of those died by nations launching nukes out of pure desperation.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Remember that in HL canon, Earth was already worn out from fighting the Xen creatures coming in from the portal storms. Look at the quarantine zones in HL:A.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wonder how fast modern NATO could conquer the world if we had a portal to 1945?
      It'd be fun if each country has to specifically fight it's past self.
      Canada's going to have a bad time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1945 Russia curbstomps 2022 Russia

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What would a military 100 years in the future look like/compose of?
    Around here? Fuckers probably still use T-64s

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And the US invading Afghanistan might as well have been the Combine attacking. Being some illiterate goat farmer's kid fresh out of the madrassa having to face American air power might feel exactly like Martians hunting them down in War of the Worlds.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      which is funny because war of the worlds was written to ask the question "what if roles were reversed and we were the savages getting invaded?"

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    World War 2 really "canonized" warfare as we know it, so many things were introduced that had never been seen before but afterwards became ubiquitous in warfare to this day, and every nation's arsenals are full of simple refinements on these machines

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >100 years
    Given what people thought about the future in the 70's and 80's compared to where we are today, we may not even have assault ready electromagnetic launchers. On ships a hundred years from now? Sure, but on something the size of a tank, I have my doubts. Miniaturization is always the holy grail.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And another thing, about the Halo series. I never followed the game's lore but I understand that the Covenant were way, WAY more powerful than humanity. Humanity was sort of like the Tau and the Covenant are similar to the Imperium -- that is, a decayed but still gigantic civilization which didn't understand all of their own tech but was still advanced and powerful enough to utterly wreck the younger race if they wanted to.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot what I was going to ask about the Covenant. Didn't ANYONE in the Covenant question why they were genociding humans? The Covenant is specifically a multi-racial, universal empire type. Sure, the higher-ups had their reasons, but at the VERY least wouldn't the Elites be seriously questioning why they were killing humans instead of trying to bring them into the fold?

      I know the answers to your questions but fuck off anyway

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot what I was going to ask about the Covenant. Didn't ANYONE in the Covenant question why they were genociding humans? The Covenant is specifically a multi-racial, universal empire type. Sure, the higher-ups had their reasons, but at the VERY least wouldn't the Elites be seriously questioning why they were killing humans instead of trying to bring them into the fold?

      Elites were zealots - humans were heretics, blasphemous creatures. Only the absolute top tier knew about the human connection to forerunner tech, and even then wouldn't do anything about it. Elites only rebelled because they were replaced by fucking space africans. I wouldn't call humanity Tau either - we are rocking 7.62 real fukken NATO in the fucking future.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Forgot what I was going to ask about the Covenant. Didn't ANYONE in the Covenant question why they were genociding humans? The Covenant is specifically a multi-racial, universal empire type. Sure, the higher-ups had their reasons, but at the VERY least wouldn't the Elites be seriously questioning why they were killing humans instead of trying to bring them into the fold?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That was a specific plot point, the Sangheili respected humans as equals and wanted them to join the Covenant, but the Hierarchs had some secret holy war reason they needed the humans gone. (Humans were one of the pre-halo activation races reseeded into the galaxy, this threatens the religious position of the Hierarchs)
      After the Sangheili were betrayed for asking too many questions, they allied with the humans against the Covenant.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Need my head crushed between Sanghelli Amazon thighs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The novels cover that the Profits figured out after humans were discovered that the Forerunners were genetically human. Since they revered the Forerunners as Gods in their religion, they couldn't exactly let that secret get found out, so they ordered the cleansing of any humans.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At a certain point, warfare will become inflicting damage on a target without sending a single human soldier to maintain it. Autonomous robots, hypersonic glide vehicles.

    I do see man-made organic life becoming weaponized in that time period

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anon people understood quantum mechanics and relativity 100 years ago. Tanks and aircraft were used in mass on battlefields.

    What the fuck are you talking about.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shut up

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    in a hundred years the russians will find a spare in mint condition 1 million extra mosin nagant rifle and revolver also perfectly preserved 150 year old ammo for each weapon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Heh

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it'll have a lot more drones, especially if AI keeps advancing like it has been

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Biologically augmented bones, muscles, senses (eyes that can see more in night).
    Combined with nanomachines to quickly heal up blood loss/organ failures/tissue damages
    Combined with augmented AI in brain for faster decision making
    Combined with augmented combat eye wear for AI/computer assisted tracking of objectives
    Combined with mechanized gear for superior lightweight protection
    Combined with advanced rifles

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Best timeline imo, drones are SOVLESS

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wait till we have drones with wood furniture

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a lot of drones.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is pure jingoism to think that technology will or even can advance infinitely. There will be a point some day when science has finished learning everything that can be learned. There will be a best gun, a best helicopter, a best fighter jet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >There will be a point some day when science has finished learning everything that can be learned
      yeah, maybe thousands of years from now, definitely not in just 100 years
      """scientists""" and """experts""" are vulnerable to dogma that sets back their fields all the time
      we can't even fix the fucking obesity (metabolic health) crisis that has been a problem for decades, largely because we keep eating the processed foods and sugar. but hardly anyone is even aware of the problem.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair, studying the effect of diet on health is extremely hard because we keep discovering new confounders that have effect sizes larger than the original hypotheses: epigenetics and gut flora being the two most recent examples.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not to mention the corruption and food industry shilling
          also that 1 million dead from covid number is directly related to diabetes and other conditions from sugar/processed food consumption

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think you want simple explanations for complex problems enough that you're willing to invent villains with improbable potency to hatch very comprehensible and dastardly but very impractical plots.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >invent villains
              shut your cockholster, you ignorant moron
              https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The sugar industry invented a villain?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                pretty much, yeah

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This only holds true when there are massive wars to spur growth and advancement.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Drone Carrier tanks, just mobile platforms that deploy hundreds of flying autonomous drones. That shit would look like absolutely alien to us.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Oh wow, you guys must all be really happy and fulfilled with all those crazy technological whizzbangs, huh?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Yes.jpg

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >past people would think they're aliens.
    Not if they were close enough to see their faces. Also I think early 20th century would be able to figure out their equipment. Now if you mean the past as like the 18th century, then yeah they would be like gods.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think troops of the future will have backpacks with mind controlled robo-tentacles that penetrate the enemy's assholes and fill them with quick-setting epoxy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm having trouble imagining that. You wouldn't happen to have images of what that might look like, would you? You know, sketches, artistic mock ups? Purely scientific, you understand.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

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