If you had the choice, would you buy a Benelli Supernova or put that $600 into a savings for an M4?

If you had the choice, would you buy a Benelli Supernova or put that $600 into a savings for an M4? I like the 3.5" chamber and pump actions are fun, and I vibe with the aesthetic, but it's a pump. Specifically this model

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    That exact model in your pic was the first shotgun I ever owned. It was great except that the LOP was way too long for my 5'5" manlet frame. If that doesn't apply though, the only downside is the relative lack of aftermarket compared to a Mossberg or Remington

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >aftermarket compared to a Mossberg or Remington
      Try finding a quality forend for a Remmington versamax.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      5’5”

      Jesus man. I’m so sorry

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd splurge on an a300 Ultima patrol or put it in savings for a 1301. Unless it's just a rule of cool purchase in which case I'd go 590a1 or M4 but that's just my aesthetic preferences.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd get the supernova
    M4s are cool but they're just so expensive
    Unless you're loaded or actually doing cool guy shit for a living (doubtful) it's not worth

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Supernova, look for a tactical model with the collapsing stock if you can though most are on the SBS model. A bunch of police model non-SBSes flooded the market recently and that's when I got mine.

    M4 is fine but not worth the asking price. I say this as someone who has owned all of the M-series Benellis. Anything you'd need a shotgun to do, the Supernova will do. M4 exists to flex and is kind of a pig compared to the M2/M3 and 1301 Tac.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      pretty much this.
      I have an M4 and an M2 currently. I've owned a Cordoba and an M3 in the past. The M4 is a great shotgun but it's honestly a) overpriced and b) a one-trick pony. If you really want the best combat shotgun because you really need it or because you've got disposeable income and you're splurging on something cool then go for it. But as far as practical use goes in my opinion the M2 is the best. Straight from the factory you can configure the M2 for anything. You can get SBS barrels, your standard 18" tacticals, longer barrels for hunting or skeet, and rifled barrels for slugs. You can also get the "Comfortech" stock for the M2 which sounds like a gimmick when you first read about it but it honestly does an awesome job reducing felt recoil. M2 also has a huge aftermarket in every possible field: tactical, 3-gun competition, hunting, clays, you name it.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    if it was the supernova vs a 500/870 then i wouldnt mind paying extra for the supernova.
    however if i really wanted a m4 and was sure i wanted that m4. then frick the supernova. imma buy that m4. settling for a supernova will only delay me from getting what i really want and land me with something i have to resell or leave laying around unused later.
    now if you dont that much of a shit about the m4 supernovas fine but never settle.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    you can get a beretta a300 for 900 bucks.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Watching the prices drop for the ultima patrol over the past month. Went from $1099 to $940 on gunbroker. You get a well made semi auto and save all that money for rounds and range/clay time actually shooting it.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What the hell are you going to need the 3 1/2" chamber for? That's almost exclusively reserved for duck and turkey hunting, although you can find buckshot loads available.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >duck and turkey hunting

      Yes.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >That's almost exclusively reserved for duck and turkey hunting
      And even then it's a meme

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >never been geese hunting with steel shot

        I can tell.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Black person where do you see
          >geese
          in
          >duck and turkey

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he's hunting geese with steel shot but not using a 10ga
          why should we be listening to you again?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            10gauge is obsolete with 3.5” 12 gauge. Simple as. You’d’ve known that if you ever did anything.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Supernovas a great. One of my favorite features is the loading gate stays out of the way until you pump it after you load your first shell. No pinched thumbs or caught gloves. You can also get a really comfy 4 position adjustable stock.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get an auto 5 loser.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've heard these are excessively autistic in design and have a lot of problems you need to work out before it's a reliable weapon.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They're reliable as frick. You heard wrong, nerd.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Post yours

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lemme see your shotgun now.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Posts supreme gentleman shotgun

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              nice

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I've heard these are excessively autistic in design and have a lot of problems you need to work out before it's a reliable weapon.
        They're were designed by Browning personally and were in production nearly a hundred years. YOU don't need to work out anything on it.
        The only thing you work on are the friction rings according to the loads you shoot; for that you take a look into the manual.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >only thing you work on are the friction rings according to the loads you shoot
          Or you could just buy an M4, 1301 or 940 and no worry for that shotgun's lifetime.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Even newer auto shotguns struggle to cycle lighter loads, like skeet or trap shells.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >like skeet or trap shells.
              No, they don't. I already provided enough evidence, blow me. Stop buying shitty shotguns sub $800

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mixed opinions in this thread. I really like the M2, 1301, and A300. They're considerations now

      Not what I'm looking for

      What the hell are you going to need the 3 1/2" chamber for? That's almost exclusively reserved for duck and turkey hunting, although you can find buckshot loads available.

      It's cool

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Neither, get a m3 instead. It's just like the m4 except it can switch between semi and pump.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    moron here, why buy a Benelli pump, when you can buy a host of others for less money? M3s and M2s are a thing, too.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Benellis are just a bit more gucci. Nicer fit and finish, and smoother action with no slop or rattle. You're sacrificing aftermarket for that, but not everybody cares

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Okay, sure, I totally get that, but when there's a budget constraint like for OP, I don't get the appeal of gucci.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh yeah, I'm moronic. I thought you were asking why you would buy a Benelli in general

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Granted I'm not sure about US prices but basically the way I see it, under budget constraints, if you want an auto you get an m2 or m3, or something non benelli for a pump.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              NTA, but I honestly agree. There's a reason to spend extra on a Benelli semi over most other semis: they are super reliable and the inertia system is incredibly simple, which means that both ease of maintenance and reliability are improved. Now for a pump shotty? There's nothing wrong with Benellis but an 870 or a Mossberg are already proven rock-solid reliable and have much bigger aftermarkets.

              If you want a gucci pump gun? Get a vintage model. You want a cool pump for maximum memes? Get a SPAS-12.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would go with a Turkish M4, they're pretty much the same thing as a Benelli. Here's my Panzer Arms and it's a dream to shoot. Only 450 USD from my buddy, best purchase I've ever made if you love 12ga shotguns you will love the Panzer M4. I don't really know why you would pay 3x the price for a roll mark...

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not nearly the same as AR lowers and you know it. Someone get the RAID.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >*Breaks*

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Weak, weak bait.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How about 940 pro tactical? Is it any good?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How about 940 pro tactical? Is it any good?
      Beneli M4, Beretta 1301 and Mossberg 940 are the top three semi auto shotguns that exist. All 3 will shoot every load you can buy, all 3 are proven, all 3 have similar features.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have experience or opinions on the Winchester SXP?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The SXP is just a roach version of the 120/1200/1300. Literally buy a used 120/1200/1300 for $150-250 and come out ahead with a better gun. Which is saying something, considering they're already budget guns. The entire line was meant to reduce costs to the point of absolute bare minimum without it being a pipe bomb. Do you really want the final cost cutting measure they could take?

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been swayed a lot toward the M2. With all the money I'd save for a stock M4 I could add a light, optic, and magazine extension to an M2

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Buy once, cry one. Just save up and get the one you actually want and be done with it instead of feeling like you have to buy guns you don't really want and suffer for a few years before getting the one you really want.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't have experience with the Supernova but I've heard that it's a very good gun and given my experience with Benelli I can easily believe that. However if you want an M4 then go with that, it's cool as hell and in a lot of vidya and movies and is also reputable as a good gun.
    >Look up current price
    >Damn near 2 grand
    Boy howdy I remember when that sucker was like 1k but still, buy once cry once. You can always get a Supernova later, they're not particularly expensive and it's not like they're going anywhere.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    go with the Supernova, I bought one years ago and only have good things to say about it

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    do not pay $600 for a super nova

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're an idiot if you spend 600 dollars on a supernova. Get a beretta a300 Ultima patrol or save the cash for a benelli m4. Don't blow your tiny wad fool.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Save up for THE Benelli, or get the Beretta A300 and have something “just as good.”

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      problem with these ultra expensive shotguns is they use the same shells as some Dickenson owner would use!

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        M4 isn't even close to being classified as ultra expensive. If anything, in a different country (UK for example) it would be classified as bottom tier budget price. And they do use expensive shells there if you are really inclined towards going full gucci.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tactical shotgun
    Just get a Nova

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    My ideal home defense shotgun is 20 ga chambered for 3" mag. I prefer that in semi-auto because I can fire it one-handed, with solid follow-up shots, at anything resembling home defense distances (under ~30 yards, but usually 8 to 15). It's not the first gun I would pick up, but you can do a helluv'a lot worse. Use steel BBs with enough charge to exceed 1400 fps; if you can push ~1600 fps, all the better. I'm cool with a 20" barrel, but want it in mod choke. If there is no or insignificant performance drop with 18", all the better.

    Why? That's more than enough gun for home defense against humans. Reloading is way cheap, and you can tweak your charge to optimize performance. You can carry nearly double the number of 20 ga in a sack or whatever for the same weight as 12 ga. Or half the weight for the same number of shells. It works for me because I've shot trap & skeet for decades and I point & shoot instinctively. If you've ever shot skeet, I have smashed doubles on station 4 a few times ... from the hip. Late night visitors on the homestead will get extremely little time to comply and make their case before I call corpse clean-up squad and sue their families for the mess.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Benelli M4 sells for more than 3k€ in Europe and muricans are complaining for less than $2k.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's around 2k€ here

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have experience with the Stoeger M3000?

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Buy a 1301. Inherently superior.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice digits. Must be true.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Inherently superior
      They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sexy

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        That forend is hot. Never liked the Magpul stocks though. I like the standard pistol grip stocks they come with

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy fricking pents. Still like the M2 though

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Digits don’t lie boys

      Join us

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just going to leave this here. Do with it what you will.

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i did the third option and bought an M3, so now i basically have an m2/nova but without an M4 gas system

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are the advantages of a shotgun over an AR or PCC for home defense? I know defensive loads for 5.56 or common handgun calibers take care of overpenetration pretty well and they have a lot more capacity, so where does the shotgun win?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You typically only have time for a few shots before they flee or return fire. A few shots on target with #4 or larger buckshot at in-home distences are basically 100% lethal, while from a 5.56 or 9mm, may or may not be.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Makes sense. I looked up some videos about it and one of the main points against shotguns was their size and recoil, which I guess may not be an issue depending on your size and skill

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone own the tactical 14 inch?

    I'm thinking of buying one. I kind of with the 14" had the mag tube all the way flush with the barrel.

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    is that italien? can you go pump, or auto?

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