If you believe the average sofrep subscriber piston guns are the only acceptable option because DI ARs will melt after 5 rounds and if they don't the gas tube will immediately fill with carbon like a pixie stick with slobber in it. Realistically is the improvement at all noticeable, and if it is does that justify the added cost? I've spent a lot of time with an M27 but I don't think a meme gun like that is fair to judge the entire spectrum of piston guns by.
Brother-in-law is a Marine and he was lead to believe memes from 20+ years ago (7.62x39>5.56x45, .45>9x19, 1911>all, etc.), so I imagine Corps leadership is still on the HK416 hype train, hence the M27 IAR. There's a theoretical advantage to the rod with a 10-12 inch barrel and extended periods without cleaning, but the M27 has a 16" barrel and Marines will be ordered to white glove clean it anyway
Also, there's no such thing as DI, Boomers just appropriated automotive terminology (direct injection) to describe what they don't understand
>7.62x39>5.56x45
This is actually true though
I guess if you’re a retard maybe
>round designed to wound people vs kill them
Really makes you think
Anon, we deserve better bait.
You wish it was b8. Go ask the boys at DOD who decided it was more impactful to wound an opp (and draw more enemy soldiers away from fighting to take care of him) than to down him.
The DoD literally required the new SCHV round had to be as lethal as .308 up until 300 yards and the adoption of the AR-15 was heavily influenced by tales of ARVN and MACV-SOG shooting 5.56 rounds that split the Charlies open.
The "draw more enemy soldiers away from fighting" is a complete fucking meme considering that the DoD had fought off Nork/Chink human wave attacks, was planning to fight the Soviet Union which did not have the infrastructure for quick medevac and was at that point fighting the VC who had the habit of gathering the dead bodies anyway to make Americans unable of telling how much damage they were inflicting on them.
Not that it would matter, as the doctrine for saving the lives of the wounded is WINNING THE BATTLE FIRST and then caring for them. You will lose some of the wounded, but it beats everyone dying because nobody's fighting.
Anon both Russians and chinks switched from .30-30 automatic to 5.56 clones. It's over. It's a legacy round.
>inb4 muh muh muh they still use it
Yeah. Because they suck at logistics, they still use garbage rods too. That doesn't mean they want to.
Maybe at point blank range
They used to be very aesthetic, agreed
They are also piston driven, hence the outer radius of the MAS-44 (compensation for the lack of piston rings) the dwell time of the AG-42 (compensation for the lack of outer radius) and the piston rings of the AS50
>This is actually true though
>7.62 icepicks straight out of the barrel
>7.62 drops like a rock past 200 yards making holdover estimation impossible
>7.62 recoils so hard you can't keep eyes on target using optics
>7.62 recoils so hard you can't see shot placement and correct using holdover
>7.62 is heavy while offering no advantages for being heavy
Being low pressure/ high mass it's closer to a shotgun round than a rifle round.
>7.62 recoils so hard
Twink
>7.62 is heavy while offering no advantages for being heavy
It does have good barrier penetration.
only if you're taking into account that this merit came about because of vets using 14.5 and shorter barrels with m855 as their standard. This means that the slower velocity paired with a round that doesn't like to fragment upon impact with flesh seems like a worse option than the harder-hitting 7.62x39 when compared to the ~16" AKs often used by the enemy. Change the load to M193 and 16-20" barrels and 5.56 is back on top.
You are a retard
The HK is so good looking
I love the 416-C version in particular
>there's no such thing as DI
What are the operating systems of the MAS44 and AG42 family of rifles then?
>Direct injection
Incredible shit post friend
>shit post
How did you think the terminology changed in the 20th century?
>automatic gun versus machine gun
The distinction between these was never an issue, but Boomers didn't get it. So they ignored history and appropriated the term semiautomatic transmission
>short/long stroke piston
These aren't even subtle, lifted straight from automotives because every Boomer is also a rev head. Either the rod is fixed or it isn't, simple as
nice pic for ants
The source was a crummy animation anyway, here is an improved one demonstrating how gas tube AR-15's are ackchyually piston driven: https://youtu.be/wMIBUIN30yU?t=267
An AR style gas system isn't direct impingement anyway. If you want an example of DI, look at a Ljungman or MAS 49. An AR vents most of its gas out the two holes in the side of the bolt carrier that you can see through the ejection port too, so the "le shits where it eats hehe" is just a meme parroted by retards who don't know how guns work.
>patent listing
Ooooooooof
>Askhually mr stoner your wrong and I'm right *snifs* you designed a *snif* piston rifle askhually and not DI
>Stoner literally called his system a direct impingement
Long stroke vs short stroke piston.
>original DI
Short stroke.
>Stoner DI
Long stroke.
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>An AR style gas system isn't direct impingement anyway.
T. youtube shill parroting things other people say
Straight from the horse's mouth (again)
>AR with SVT40 gas system