If the Russians mobilize 200,000-300,000 fresh troops for Spring Offensive

You know this is coming.

Artillery and tanks are good but bombs destroy entire battalion fronts and festungs and kill much faster.

Prob a mercenary group will be raised by the US to fight in the country as well together with CIA types

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >If
    I don't think the Russians can do another mobilization round.
    It would raise too many questions about where the previous 300k went.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like Putin cares

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It would raise too many questions about where the previous 300k went.
      in georgia lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        GO BACK TO GEORGIA DEAD BOY

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It would raise too many questions about where the previous 300k went.
      I can tell you what they will say: Most of them where "send home", some "want to stay in the army to continue fighting" and now it's only "fair" that others take their place who hasnt done their duty til now. Russians will look at each other mutter something not understandable, then they'll clap for 10 minutes and the first guy who stops will be sent to gulag. Glory to the Sovi- Russia.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >where the previous 300k went
      They went to go live on a farm

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >300k
      Over 500k now.
      On top of the 1m reservists activated earlier.
      >It would raise too many questions
      No it wouldn't.
      Russia is not as sane as the USSR.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I doubt these numbers

        300,000 first time (100,000 already out of action)
        and another 500,000 now

        they couldn't support any larger move

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Those numbers are indeed unreliable, but not in the ways you might think.
          The 1m reservists is the official number.
          The over 500k conscripts is roughly based on civilian reports of people who have gone missing or have been reported as conscripted by their relatives.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It would raise too many questions about where the previous 300k went.
      prigozhins second business is a sausage factory

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Prigozhin seems to or at least pretends to give more of a fuck about his prison gangs than the Russian government or people about their soldiers tbh.
        He's actually burying them sometimes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It would raise too many questions about where the previous 300k went.
      they ride the bakhmut eternal shiny and chrome and goida

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russians
      >Questioning the great leader
      They will all die. But they will do so gladly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They've already got some citizen lobby called "Widows for Mobilization" that is allegedly pressuring the government to increase mobilization. It's coming this week.. Watch and see. The Durma is already pretending like they dont want to, but that the citizens really want it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >look at these grieving mothers.. THEY WANT REVENGE! how can we deny them seeing those ukrop pigs skewered and roasted over hellfire for killing their sons?
        >really we do not want this but the people demand it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          KitKat!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/WYbN1xB.jpg

        >look at these grieving mothers.. THEY WANT REVENGE! how can we deny them seeing those ukrop pigs skewered and roasted over hellfire for killing their sons?
        >really we do not want this but the people demand it

        You can trust Russia's "grieving mothers" bro, some of them have been grieving their loss for so many years they've gotten to be good friends with Putin.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kek
          Why are rumorons so bad at propaganda even though they desperately need it to just survive?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They are not "bad" they just do what works.
            E.g. they have a local party in "Saxony" that manages ot attract retards despite being run by obvious FSB assets that get frequent visits, monetary donations and oversight from figures close to Putin.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >r*ssians
      >having realizations
      >asking questions
      lol, lmao even

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >previous 300k
      What previous 300k? No such number existed.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        da comrade, filthy hato lies

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those 300k actually went on vacation to Cuba and enjoyed it so much they are staying there to live happily ever after

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you just going to pretend these 300 000 don't have a family ? Or that they don't have internet, cell phones etc to call them every day ?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So what if they do?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Russia suicides into irrelevance over Ukraine

    Geopolitics are looking up.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >le mercenary cope

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the US doesn't have offensive mercenary groups. the US has already said that you can just join the regular Ukrainian military with no repercussion and the Ukraine has also welcomed this.

    so a mercenary group isn't necessary.

    >I qualify to fight for Ukraine because I am apart of the disapera.
    >won't get VA benefits
    >probably won't get benefits from ukraine.

    better just to wait for escalation and the US regulars.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Prob like a brigade made up of volunteers and CIA, with more information access. They will be used for defence north of Kyiv

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sounds more reasonable. I don't know everything, but the US military probably wouldn't like US veterains joining, even if they were CIA, but and alphabet is A-OK becuase then there isn't a connection, and service after would basically be the same.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Prob like a brigade made up of volunteers
        This is what russians mean when they say mercenary. The concept of generosity is utterly alien to them, so they can't imagine people volunteering for free. They believe the western volunteers are all being paid, hence "mercenaries".

        The russian language may not actually have a word for volunteer, I dunno.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the Ukrainian military is professional, that means every solder is technically a mercenary. even with conscription, it is still professional.

          the Russian military is basically the same way, it just has compulsory service, meaning it forces its population to become a mercenary.

          the US is one of the few nations with no compulsory service, meaning that it boast a 100% volunteer service. its population is just heavily militant to make up for the lack of compulsory service. this means that the US has to tip toe around things because it can see a sudden insurrection at any moment. the benefit of this system is that those insurrections can suddenly turn into self-policing and resolve themselves.

          the American civilian population alone has enough tanks, planes, guns, artillery pieces, munitions, explosives, war-ships, and skilled individuals, that if left alone without the support of the government infrastructure it could take on most 2nd and 3rd world countries... and win... by a large margin... just through private ownership.

          the russian government encourges people to own firearms to build their skills as a solder and fend for themselves. the US government knew full and well that our population wouldn't settle for anything less than all out war, and figure if we were distracted by explosions, lighting things on fire, and killing buffalo that it might be able to actually get something done.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The US has been training Ukrainian pilots for months at this point. No need for mercs with fighter jets and the infrastructure to support them for some reason

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >been training Ukrainian pilots for months at this point
      I shit you not most of it was English lessons till this point. Even ESL ukies required to learn technical jargon first.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I shit you not most of it was English lessons till this point
        Ah yes, they spent 6 months learning jargon despite pilots speaking English. While Ukrainian artillery teams that never spoke German learned how to operate PzH 2000 completely in German in one month.
        Are you retarded?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This may come as a surprise to you, but learning to fire artillery using coordinates and drive artillery is not super complicated for trainer artillerymen.
          Learning to fly a jet traveling at 600mph, equipped with 6 different armaments, 5 different countermeasures, and a control panel that's set up completely differently from a MiG, is actually quite difficult. You are smoking crack if you think 6 months to learn theory of operation is too long for ESLs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You realize it's international law that all pilots must speak and read English in order to cross international borders, right?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No mercenary ground front line unit from USA will show up in Ukraine. Just a little bad luck, and the russians would have the opportunity to show stacks of dead Americans and do humiliating interrogations of the survivors. There are many things to be said about the military USA but they ARE capable of learning, and the 'successes' of Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, Tel Aviv black sites and the Kabul salt pits are events they neither want to repeat nor see reversed. Any American front line volunteers should be dispersed as much as possible among international units where the loss of a few Americans won't become international news or russian propaganda food.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most that volunteer will be nordics, poles and balts, and some Amis

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Example in point, nearly 20 years ago in Najaf

    >On 23 August, at least 15 explosions, many sounding like artillery shells, rocked the area, as shrapnel fell in the courtyard of the gold-domed mosque and gunfire echoed through the alleyways.

    Didn't work that well

    >On 26 August 2004, two F-16s flying out of Balad dropped four 2000 pound JDAMs (Joint Direct Attack Munitions) on two hotels near the shrine which were being used by the insurgents. The successful airstrike dealt a devastating blow to Sadr and led to a hasty settlement with Grand Ayatollah Sistani the following morning which allowed Al-Sadr and the remnants of his militia to leave Najaf.

    Victory through bombs

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >300,000 fresh men
    >4,000 T-14
    >1,500 Su-57
    The bear has woken up...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >300,000 fresh untrained conscripts where 20% desert fall sick die before reaching the front lines
      >300 rusty T-62s from a waterlogged base in the tundra
      >D-15s and D-30s artilleries on their last legs

      versus

      Leopard 2s Marders AMX-10s Bradleys F-16s Paladins etc of 50,000 West European trained and battle hardened Ukrainians

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      translation
      300,000 assorted loose and prolapsed anuses
      4 T-14
      between 3 to15 Su-57, depending on how we count

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the russian professional army couldn't even conquer Kiev, what makes you think mobiks in T-62Ms can?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nobody is going to use fighter-bombers extensively in rukraine because both sides have very good AA.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, both sides just cannot into SEAD/DEAD, there's a big difference.

      >Prob a mercenary group will be raised by the US to fight in the country as well together with CIA types
      The US actively deterred American muslims going to Afghanistan in the 1980s I dont think they'd encourage people this time

      Ukraine is only taking people with previous combat experience, you can check their embassy page regarding US volunteers. They have enough Ukrainian volunteers with zero experience, they don't want worthless volunteers that can't even speak the language.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Prob a mercenary group will be raised by the US to fight in the country as well together with CIA types
    The US actively deterred American muslims going to Afghanistan in the 1980s I dont think they'd encourage people this time

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ...and equip them with what? I don't think Russia have enough egg cartons and cardbard for 20 to 30K mobilisk.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It will take 2 years to train pilots into western aircraft and most western countries are very squeamish about sharing high tech toys like aircraft.
    Also the F-16 is not the best choice for the Ukranians. The Gripen is the only one that would work right now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're fucking brain damaged.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ukrainians run their aircraft from improvised airstrips - most commonly roads - grippen is in fact closest to grass meadow airstrip using fulcrum as you can get

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          F-16s can operate from clean concrete roads or elsewhere. Ukraine has the road and ramp space in the east. They can also operate from the usual runway matting surfaces built and repaired by combat engineers.

          Using pure grass strips in muddy season will fuck hard with fuel trucks and support vehicles. Better to play musical chairs with concrete facilities.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Two years

      Considering they HAVE experience flying Sukhois, I'm skeptical.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You would also have to train all the support staff and put infrastructure in place inside Ukraine.

      >Two years

      Considering they HAVE experience flying Sukhois, I'm skeptical.

      How many mechanics does Ukraine have that can service western aircraft? How long does it take to train all the support staff to just have a squadron operational? What will be the attrition rate? Who will be handling the munitions?
      The entire project is substantially more complicated than training some dozen pilots to fly F16s.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Aircraft can be parked and serviced by NATO techs just over the boarder, roll 10ft into Ukraine to be armed and take off.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bingo.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >how to get nuked by Russia in 3 simple steps

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not very complicated to support the equivalent of deployed F-16 ops since the support can be inside NATO itself.

        Mechanics and avionics tech (I was an engine troop later merged with TAMS and Red X qualified on all systems, avionics prior to that on Phantom and Bronco) can learn enough to be useful in several months and tech reps are just a phone call/zoom session away. Munitions handling is not exotic nor is buildup.

        A real mechanic is a real mechanic. Mechanics who grew up on more "hands on" systems with hydromechanical fuel controls etc will have it easy converting, not hard. I did along with many others. Send them through basic courses (just the techy bits, not the training snotnosed new Airman bits) then FTD at any suitable US base and they're ready to work.Dispersed Ukrainian units will be the equivalent of FOLs while LRU repair can be done in the US or EU (FedEx makes the world go round). Ukraine won't need many back shops, maybe one or two small Gold Flag equivalents.

        Non-deployed functions can be duplicated at any NATO base and there are many creative ways to assist small host units. All the forward deployed need do is provide basic Ops, Life Support, POL, muns etc which is more a matter of warm bodies than high skill except for pilots who are easily trained as Ops officers. Most of what gets shit done is at the NCO/SNCO level.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The US has been training foreign students since before WWII and there is nothing to invent in that respect.

        We have thousands of retired vets who'd jump at contractor wages. Some of those guys already keep the QF-16 program going. Besides training they could do any of their old jobs in support of Ukraine as contractors. F-16s are easy to work on.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Aus airforce here. Conversion course takes about 6 months for a new airframe. This could definitely be shortened as it's mostly dependent on aircraft availability and scheduling. Maintenance staff depending on how specialised they are and prior training could be 2 weeks to just learn how to get it in the air to 3 months for a detailed understanding of all the systems.

        The hardest part is translating everything to Ukrainian and teaching the pilots english. After that it's smoothing what would no doubt dozens of differences between the way the US and Ukrainians operate even between squadrons that operate the same aircraft you can get radically different processes.

        It's takes about 2 years for an individual to become highly proficient and 5 years for a squadron to be considered mature.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It's takes about 2 years for an individual to become highly proficient and 5 years for a squadron to be considered mature.

          That's about right (retired USAFanon here) but that is also under peacetime conditions where high risk is less acceptable. I don't know how literate in English the Ukrainian aircrew are but being bilingual is of course common in aviation.

          WWII shows it can be done (Poles in RAF etc) much quicker but loss rates were not small.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Also the F-16 is not the best choice for the Ukranians. The Gripen is the only one that would work right now.
      The problem is that there's "the best choice" and "the choice that works".
      There's F-16 airframes to spare, and sources for spare parts.
      There's fewer Gripens built, the C/D and E/F being different airframes creates a scenario with limited compatibility.
      If Saab marketing wasn't dishonest and the Gripen actually made some fucking sales, maybe Ukies could get it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gripen fanbois are hilarious. F-16 is easy to maintain in the field and the US has more than ample support for them

      t.viper fixer and more

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia kills off generations of working age men, or makes the smarter ones leave the country for good. All so a clown of a KGB officer can try and gain some clay and a useless port.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And Wagner can get a salt mine.

      Vultures scavenging off Russia's corpse.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why all these fantasies about how RF mobilisation is met?

    It's just supplying equipment, supplying ammunition, same as usual. It's not like those numbers haven't been raised and deleted before.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Suppose Putin were to die this very moment and you were given the role of Russia's new leader. How would you turn this war around?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I immediately start the peace talks. There is no winning this war for Russia and the longer it lasts the more Russia goes to shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As long as Russia does not have to pay additional reparations (that $300 billion is gone though) and the high circle is left alone, it's a win perhaps the only one for Putin. The land including Crimea is gone, now or 300,000 dead Russians later. The West will keep sending ammo, money and intel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mass mobilization, Not a step back order. Full authority to NKVD.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My wife

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tell my troops to do a 360 and march home

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        180

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Withdraw immediately and try desperately to return to the 2014 status quo. Return Luganda and Donbabwe and offer to hold a real referendum in Crimea (which will likely become a new Tartar state that you can negotiate dirt cheap leasing rights). In exchange for this olive branch, all sanctions from west are to be lifted. To save face with the Russian people, I would villainize Chechen behavior during the war- blaming the defeat on them stabbing Russians in the back. Trying to set up the ground work to completely 100% separate Chechens from Russia. Cement Putin's legacy as a hero who stomped the Chechens but was stabbed in the back by them when he was friendly to them. Now the people are dialed into hating irrelevant goatfuckers instead of countries we can make money from.

      Also, I would use the defeat to as an excuse to prosecute the largest profiteers of corruption within Russia. Bring back that general that was stamping that shit out before he got fired. All the while, trying to "Westernize" Catherine the Great style- use funds from massive resource pools to refund the aerospace industry and try to restore some of the 30 year brain drain. Hopefully after 20 years return to a large regional power that can at least keep Turkey and Azerbaijan in check.

      I will likely be killed shortly after prosecuting corruption and Russia will return to the status quo. My legacy will be that of that gay Gorbachev who had the nerve to try to make things better for everyone.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well-written and actually a decent strategy, aside from the whole “holding the corrupt accountable” part. But you did mention that it would be problematic so overall 8.5/10

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chechen here, have a nice day

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He would but u already stabbed him in the back.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Chechen here, have a nice day
          Only real Chechens left are fighting for Ukraine

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Only real Chechens left are fighting for Ukraine

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Did Kadyrov's cum make you feel warm inside when he fucked you as a 12 year old?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Poo poo pee pee
            I'm pro-Ukraine, imbecile, just like 90% of our occupied nation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go full WMD. Either the west bends the knee and surrenders ukraine and eastern europe or the world receives its great reset.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Remember, China has posted an ultimatum to Russia about use of WMDs.
        As have the UK and USA.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Immediately go on the defensive, task Prigozhin and Kadyrov with leading a naval invasion on Odessa so I can be rid of them.
      Assassinate Medvedev and Dugin. Drop a nuke on the Duman while they are in session and blame it on rogue elements in the army.
      Say that Putin was insane enemy of the people and this is all his fault.
      Claim Navlany, Katz and all the other "opposition" figures were just Putin's people.
      Blame the KGB for starting a coup in 1991, succeeding in 1993 and that they have been running the country into the ground since.
      Somehow blame the KGB for the collapse of the USSR as well.
      Steal several kilograms out of the tens of tons of gold plundered from the Warsaw Pact and then broadcast the vault's location and how to get in to everyone.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shoot myself

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go full Stalin and mobilize 1-6 million men and go full war economy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Evacuate every city dweller into countryside

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Deputize every man who has a net worth over 100,000 USD to raise and command a unit of 10 soldiers, deputize every man with a net worth of 1,000,000 USD to raise 100 soldiers and command 5 of the men who are worth 100,000 USD. Deputize the billionaires to raise a thousand soldiers each and command 100 millionaires. Task these forces with the capture of Tbilisi. Execute and seize the assets of those who fail to comply. Pay the regular army in psychedelics and precious metals/garden gnomeels, pay the Rosgvardia in land and mineral rights, steal as much gold as I can, give most of it to Buddist Rebels in SEA/Tibet, give each warlord a spiritual advisor who’s actually just an orphan I’ve IV dripped with DMT for 336 straight hours in a chamber that I pipe Gregorian Chants over a loop of the track “Stress” by Justice and play videos of horses running across the Steppes, nuke the moon, get a new face and sneak out of the country to sale wooden yachts in the South Pacific.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Deputize every man who has enough money to bribe his way out of serving or out of Russia
        brilliant comrade, you and the 4 guys that showed up will really turn this around

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd immediately surrender and flee to the west with my wealth in exchange for peace

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How would you turn this war around?

      There's no way Russia can turn this around by their means, the only way depends on external, out of their direct control, events.

      The best outcome is holding tight as much as possible and try to have a MAGA republican in the White House by 2023, that's pump the Internet Research Agency to eleven because this is the only working weapon Russia currently has, and is working really well (see all the republican opinion makers on Zelensky visit.... Tucker Carson, Turning point USA, the CPAC...) it's funny to think that maybe Zelensky has doomed Ukrainie by siding too close to Biden, triggering the GOP contrarian, visceral, response.

      Before someone tells that the ukraine support is bipartisan, remember, one of the house MAGA holdouts conditions to vote for McCarthy was precisely cut Ukraine aid, and the lend lease needs to be renewed next October-September....

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If Putin dies, I'd say the war is over. There will be a vacuum inside the power structure and possibly a war there. There will be no way they can fight a war at home and abroad as well. Guys like Shoigu and the other defense minister are probably dead or at least fleeing somewhere. The Wagner dude will probably try to go back to Moscow and take the throne. He's the only moron that would continue the war. Everyone else at this point just wants out. Except for the losers on telegram pushing for the war..but those guys haven't left their homes since Gorbachev was in office.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      declare withdrawal to pre 2014 borders. UN governing disputed areas (luhansk, donbass, crimea) and organise elections there for ukr/rus/independence.
      Offer nukes to USA in return for marshall plan

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Without nukes China will steamroll into Vladivostok faster than you can say Putin is a pootie face

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Into the ground. Ruin Russia completely as a political entity, strongly suggest that any republic who wants to secede do so now, launch a big nuke into Moscow and Piter each if possible. Hopefully get defenestrated or shot along the way because my other option would be suicide and I've seen how that ends.

      (blame the tard who decided putting a rabid Russia-hater in charge of that asshole of the worlds was a good idea)

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia has made it clear providing heavy weaponry is red line when crossed nuclear apocalypse begins.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They say that about literally everything.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"We're out of milk! NATO has gone too far this time! NOOK!"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They said they would NOOK when Crimea was attacked.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't they threaten to nuke Poland if they joined EU? lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They threatened to nuke Poland if a single Patriot battery was set up there. Now Ukraine has 2.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Positive Russian development happens
    >NAFO trannies begin intensely shilling about the latest western aid wunderwaffen as if this is going to make any difference
    >NATO/US will join the fighting! I swear!
    I'm not fighting for America's corrupt imperial delusions or dying for a fake democracy that has always been part and parcel of Russia proper.

    Either you gays send me a qt Mail order Ukranian war bride and leave me alone or the Officer Friendly Fire casualty rate will soar.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia keeps winning on telegram
      Yawn.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm not fighting for ... corrupt imperial delusions or dying for a fake democracy
      Sounds like Russia.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine is a fake democracy and Maiden was a color revolution. I have a fren who now lives there and he told me as such back in 2016

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What does fake democracy means?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Democracy as understood by vatnigs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >this fifth columnist told me so!
          Where did the cops who started shooting maidan protesters go?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I know you're used to 99% election votes, Ivan. But not everyone runs democracy like you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that has always been part and parcel of Russia proper
      Ukraine was fully conquered by Russia during the reign of Catherine. Tail end of the 18th century into the 19th and immediately Ukrainians were agitating to retain their culture despite attempted Russification of the region. First chance they could shortly after WWI, they split from the Russians and had to be buttfucked into complying with territorial demands by more than a few different groups/nations. And then elected to leave the union when it finally collapsed. So no, this claim of "it was always Russian" is not correct.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It was always Russian!!!!

      It's been "Russian" for less time than the US has existed and has literally always objected to it. Britain has more of a claim to the United States than Russia has to Ukraine.

      gay.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only positive Russian development is in the HIV sector

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "If the Russians mobilize 200,000-300,000 fresh troops for Spring Offensive"

    "if."

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Prob a mercenary group will be raised by the US to fight in the country as well together with CIA types
    If they haven't done this already it's very unlikely that they will

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Russia doesn't plant their flag in Kiev by Victory Day, then it's over for Putin. The world will know that he can't get the job done and will see him as feckless; like Trump.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >like Trump.
      Trump has still millions of people supporting him, especially the most hardcore magas. Putin already has no support. The most vocal pro war people have been openly shitting on him for months.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Trump has still millions of people supporting him
        so does prince andrew and stalin

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But not Putin.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >If the Russians mobilize 200,000-300,000 fresh troops
    it's barely enough to replace losses and with no tanks and no artillery , just rusty mosins it will be world war one again, russian army will still be overrun and russia will collapse and beg for peace

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it will be world war one again

      Hopefully it doesn't take the Russian army 3 years before they start dragging people out of the Kremlin and into the street.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mobilisation is going to create new planes
    Sure.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck are those guys supposed to be equipped with? Their cocks? They barely had enough gear for their initial invasion force, they most certainly didn't have enough gear for the last conscripts. Their stockpiles of """good""" gear are most certainly depleted or kept for their fantasy war with NATO

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember the 3rd army corps? I do.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Putin needs to raise two more army corps for final victory

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >TWO MORE CORPS
        >(two hundred thousand more corpses)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Six miles of ground has been won
          >Half a million men are gone
          >And as the men crawled the general called
          >And the killing carried on and on
          >How long?
          >What's the purpose of it all?
          >What's the price of a mile?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Another 120,000 men only? Doubt it

        The Bradleys will come 50 every week, equipping a reinforced battalion every week

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the joke is he feeds everything to meat-grinder piecemeal finding himself without any troops when Ukrainians march on Moscow

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fighter jets aren't the best investment for Ukraine.
    It would take a long time to get maintainers trained on them.
    And once they were ready, they would be at constant risk from Russian TBM and cruise missile strikes.
    In the air they would be less defenceless than current UA fighters, but they would still be at a big disadvantage in terms of numbers.
    It would take a lot of fighters to turn things around like ~100 and even then the advantage gained would be limited with the density of Russian SAMs.
    They would be forced to use standoff munitions and if that's the case why not just give Ukraine ATACMs instead for similar effect and far less effort.

    There is a risk that Ukrainian air defences begin to collapse from a lack of radars and long range missiles and then RuAF can start to have more free reign which is dangerous.
    It's this that needs to be prevented, S-300 needs to be backstopped by patriot and there needs to be missile production.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because F-16s drop 2000lb GPS guided bombs

      a couple of nights of this and Kreminna will fall real quick

      they lack that concentrated firepower to blow a hole in Russian defences now that they are all clumped up together having shortened the front

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good chance you lose the F-16s as well.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The war got boring. The only people still enjoying it are stim-fapping gore junkies in need for more dopamine - for me the definition of pure subhuman no matter from which country.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel sorry for a lot of the forced conscripts who are completely against this war. Imagine being locked up for campaigning for democracy then ending up as Wagner cannon fodder. Absolutely shit luck.

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