If Russia does turn to mass mobilization of the population and human wave tactics, would they be able to make any territorial gains, or has technology...

If Russia does turn to mass mobilization of the population and human wave tactics, would they be able to make any territorial gains, or has technology advanced so much that sheer manpower can no longer accomplish the job?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think mass mobilization would turn the tide for Russia. Considering the current logistical problems and how poorly russian professional soldiers are equiped, I'd like to know how the fuck is russia supposed to manage 100k more troops. 200k more? 500k? 1 million? This is the recipe for an even greater disaster.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Presumably the idea is that they won't live long enough to need provisions. Sure, feeding a million people is a lot of work, but you don't have to feed them if they all died charging at enemy positions.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This is the recipe for an even greater pile of dead bodies.
      I wouldn't call it a disaster as long as they're vatniks.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Vatniks won't be the ones fighting, it will be forced conscripts who have no desire to kill Ukrianians. Vatniks are cowards.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. They’re poor as fuck, Putin’s only option is to cut all ties with the West and focus on the territories he has control of.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Human wave stopped working in WW1.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some other wars are calling will you pick up?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is it time to laugh at the Chinese performance during the Third Indochina War again?

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PrepHole is retarded

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Human wave will solve it easily.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >human wave
    >in 2022
    >in Ukrainian wide open field
    Seems like asking to be fertilizer for the sunflowers, anon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      russia is conscripting foreigners, i.e. the ukrainians they kidnapped and "resettled". russia doesn't care if ukrainians fertilize ukrainian sunflowers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Kidnap people that already hate you.
        >give them guns
        What's the next step of your master plan?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's what the barrier troops are for. haven't you been paying attention?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like a Mexican standoff waiting to happen lmao.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            would the chechens rather go back home or fight revolting russian troops

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If they wanted to go back they would have done by now. Kadyrovtsy are the most brainwashed of all Russians.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ukraine just needs to kill the barrier troops first, lol. Wait, the Russian commanders first THEN the barrier troops.

            Fun for everyone.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ask the human waves of Russian conscripts to meet the invisible wall of Ukrainian IEDS, lol.

          Idiots charging forward are incredibly vulnerable to explosions.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's the plan dummy. Pollute the fields with tainted blood and starve out the hohols.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mobilization is going full retard. Whe Russia is done, China can just waltz in and say this is mine.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >winter
    >mass mobilization
    it's going to end up horribly

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Human waves stopped working in WWI anon. Add in heaps of precision weaponry and cutting edge 24/7 imagery, those retards will be walking into sharpnel. Besides, it doesn’t happen in a vacuum - if russia starts the draft to send hundreds of thousands into the grinder, NATO will also escalate. The US alone has ~500 HIMARS (idk how many M270s), maybe we’ll give the ukranians 50 or so. Maybe fighters. Certainly much more small arms and ammo. Maybe tanks.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is that Russia has run out of equipment. They've been fielding T-62 tanks because most of their T-72 and T-80 and T-90 tanks have been blown up. I'm eagerly awaiting their museum piece T-34s.

    Russia is buying artillery shells from North Korea. If they still had Soviet-era stockpiles that were usable, they wouldn't be buying more yet.

    Their artillery is shot out. They were handing out Mosin-Nagants to DPR/LPR cannon-fodder. They're running out of even their shitty R/C model quality Orlan drones.

    Throwing more bodies at the situation just generates more dead bodies for them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they didn't have a high enough proportion of bodies to material in the first place either, more bodies might "help" in that the shitty outdated vehicles could be screened properly, but it's still won't be enough in the face of the quality of their material and their supply situation

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PrepHole is retarded as usual, I see.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just to add, the one thing Putin is going to accomplish with all of this is to leave a lot of desperate young women seeking foreign husbands. I'll definitely go fuck a herd of them when this is all over. Might or might not pick one, depending on whether I can find one who isn't a brainwashed retard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You wish. Monke is going to use them in trade with the bugmen for their pleasure brothels along with perpetual 75% discount on russian oil/gas in exchange for whatever scraps poohbear will give him.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Checks Russian AIDS rates

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Human waves have sort of happened in the post WW2 era in places like Korea and the Vietcong tried it a few times.
    It is extremely bloody in contact with weapon from those eras, the stuff we have now is far fucking nastier to the point they'll get picked up in mustering areas and sent to hell. Add to that, its really not going to achieve much without armour, air force and artillery all giving them some support, otherwise light infantry with no organic AA, anti armour is going to get fucking melted. It'll make VDV drops look positively civilised

    The best bet would be to trickle them into active units as replacements and in some cases, reinforcement company strength units- even then you're really just got the clueless leading the completely confused.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What weapons makes it more deadly? Is it the ability to just artillery strike areas where the enemy is gathering?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its really hard to mobilise a lot of people into a single area, especially if they infantry because they use up heaps of trucks, there will be tents, campfires and all sorts of shit 'happening' that will get picked up by satellites, drones and all sorts of stuff before even half of them probably know where the hell they are.
        After that, they can just either dog them with precision or guided strikes until they're combat ineffective or dispersed enough not to be a threat

        Its not like even in Vietnam when they could hide in the jungle or in Korea by sneaking around in valleys, behind mountains and stuff. Its really open in Ukraine which gives you two choices for moving:
        >Balls to the wall fast in light vehicles
        >Run across in the open on your legs
        Both these are absolutely horrible things even if you do scrounge up some clearing arty on your side, because that just sort of telegraphs your general direction and they radio that back to command who unleashes fire missions so fast it'll make their head spin. Plus none of these fucks will have NVG's so the cover of night isn't real great either.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks for the informative reply. I really wonder what the fuck info putin is receiving at the moment.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            he needs men to push the tanks that shoot but don't move.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If they ever got to the front. Imagine your country doesn't even equip you properly and on the train to the front you're watching videos of airburst artillery
          and ammo cooking off and burning tank crews to death.

          Conscripts are cold, hungry, undisciplined, demoralized. They just hop off the train en route, walk to nearest town, break into the police station and grab guns, and become bandits on the land. Just like Asiatic armies of old.

          I don't think conscripts have what it takes to overthrow Putin. But I do think the situation could become like Haiti where the government controls some green zones and the rest of the country is essentially anarchy lead by FAS ronin.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Daily reminder that the current Russian fertility rate is 1.7 children per woman and the replacement rate should be 2.10–2.14.
    Every Russian death is a "forever" death that will never be replenished unless the fertility rate increases drastically.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's okay, they will just lean into their Golden Horde heritage by importing even more Central Asians

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think the golden horde had to deal with HIV rates at current levels

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro... that's the fertility rate for all of Russia. It's lower for ethnic Russians.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sergei you are of aging now and must serve motherland
      >do yuo plow fertile wife every 9 month
      >or rape conscriptniki for mass moobilizing all day

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It'll increase drastically, once Russia loses and becomes a Thailand tier sex tourist destination.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This argument is so retarded, Western countries (including America) have the same or even lower fertility rates

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly, when you mention russian fertility rates, level of AIDS rate in russia, amount of gayry in the RU army, its very, very bad, tiresome argument.

        But when you mention Western fertility rates, AIDS, fags, etc etc. its a very, very good argument and im just asking questions chud.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly, when you mention russian fertility rates, level of AIDS rate in russia, amount of gayry in the RU army, its very, very bad, tiresome argument.

        But when you mention Western fertility rates, AIDS, fags, etc etc. its a very, very good argument and im just asking questions chud.

        Yeah, but Western countries encourage
        and sometimes reward immigration. Russia, not so much.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But that's a bad thing. You end up with an increasingly large portion of your population being against your own nation.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Russia has more Tajiks than Tajikistan tho

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like Russia is doing something for the environment.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't they already sent their training units to the front?

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a suHispanicious amount of threads rattling about general mobilization in Russia right now. What gives?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a few hours ago the russian duma just passed a series of laws toughening up penalties for resisting or evading mobilization, and for rioting/looting, and the airports just closed, and putin is giving a nationwide speech in a few hours.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Half an hour actually

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stream?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Putin's escalating with referendums on occupied Ukrainian territory and doing stuff that previews mobilization like restricting travel to men aged 18-65 and announcing jail time for draft dodgers. It's basically a mobilization in all but name.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You were supposed to RAP with the children of Ukraine, RAP.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes because Ukrainians have a built in kill limit and will cease fighting and surrender after Russia send sufficient waves of conscripts

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are more bullets than there are Russians in this planet

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This just makes beating Russia that much easier.

    The hordes won't have enough training to be any real threat.

    And destroy their Logistics and Command & Control? They are super-FUCKED when that happens, lol.

    No direction, no supplies. Just death.

    Take out the rear troops (i.e the guys who shoot deserters) and a rout is guaranteed or your money back.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's even dumber than that. By the time those fresh conscripts are actually mobilized, the war will already be over because they had to divert supplies, officers and logistics for the mobilization, and all those were already lacking at the front.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bingo. Stupid Vatniks be stupid.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >would they be able to make any territorial gains, or has technology advanced so much
    wow really interesting insightful questions you garden gnome double moroning garden gnome. Get off the board you glow like vaxine AIDS

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not going to believe Russia is doubling down and outright declaring war and fully mobilizing their military until I see an official public announcement. It seems like an insanely stupid idea, even for Putin at this point, and the man may have gone delusional and possibly a bit whacko cooped up and isolated from his advisors but I do not believe he's THAT fucking retarded. Besides all the reasons like timing and logistics, it would be an admittance of failure up until this point, and a absolutely humongous gamble if he still loses which, given the amount of material support Ukraine has and their sky high morale, is a fair likelihood.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Human Wave stopped working after Korea and even then it just fucking BARELY worked and it accomplished was the near total wipe of almost all their veteran formations in the Chinese Army for distressingly little return investment.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure general winter will kill them all for being "Unequipped to handle his training by cold."

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