>New production, made in USA
>2-6in of rifling
>Company acknowledges it's a meme, projectile immediately begins to tumble out of the 2in model
>6in model retains front sight post so you can put a bayonet on for le funny
>Purely for novelty
Would you buy?
If it is cheap enough maybe
I mean there are several companies like Savage and Remington willing to sell bolt action pistols, no need to shakle yourself to the mosin if you want a reloadable flashbang and fireball spell. That said I'd buy one if it came with a bayonet for maximum CQB capabilities
Fuck no. I bought my mosin for $90. Why would I spend even more for an even worse mosin?
That's MSRP though, and it isn't like you can get a mosin for $90 today anyway
You can in Yuropea, I have toyed with the idea of buying a bubba'd example for pennies and having it turned into an obrez. Although I don't know if there's any way to stabilize 7.62x54R from such a short barrel - I'd want it for big bore silhouette shooting
No. If I want to see a useless bright light accompanied by a loud bang I can just drive into oncoming freeway traffic.
If it was new production and not bastardized surp then't I'd probably say fuck it and buy one
>bubba'd garbage rod
Im gonna pass, anon.
>seen this image for years
>open it once, smile, only see it in thumbnails but never open it
>somehow just now noticed it's a shoop
A new production one was like what, $650, a solid decade ago at shot show. Fuck if I'm paying $1,200 for a fucking mosin, even if it's manufactured as a pistol. You can get retard-caliber revolvers for that much, hell M1 carbine pistols are going for $950 used on gunbroker right now.
There were new production mosins?
I still have the one I bought way back when and anyone who was into guns prior to the last ten years probably bought one for $40-100, and ammo for similarly hilariously great prices. If you evolved at all in the intervening years, you came to be annoyed by the mosin as the bolt sticks and the bores are often beyond usability. This is not just because bolts were force matched after arsenal refurb, it's because they were junk when they were new. Mosins were never anything special, they were a cheap, quick way to an army, and it shows.
They're cool as fuck when they're cheaper than a hi point. Ww1/2 surplus being the best cheapest way to buy a gun is a no-brainer. They're also a great way to learn to clean and maintain your shit. Not that it rewards you but there's a ton of enjoyment in bringing a Mosin from Stick Made Of Grease to rifle.
I wouldn't buy even an original obrez now because the whole selling point was being cheap. Once you were finished being a sucker, you'd have saved your money to put toward a better rifle.
I should post my archangel stock, scoped, silenced one with a timney trigger. And a box of high end soft points. It truly was a different time, when the chassis was a Benjamin and you could just fuck around.
fuck how do the machines still work and how are they in spec?
a .357 could be fun
>projectile immediately begins to tumble out of the 2in model
You'd just need a really fast twist rifling to stabilize the round, like 1 in 3 or 1 in 1
At 1:1 I'm fairly sure the bullet would not grip the rifling but just have the copper stripped from the bullet.
>Although I don't know if there's any way to stabilize 7.62x54R from such a short barrel
>You'd just need a really fast twist rifling to stabilize the round, like 1 in 3 or 1 in 1
None of you understand rifling and stabilisation, do you? Once a bullet hits rifling, it follows that rifling, so it is already spinning at the twist rate a fraction of an inch in. A bullet does not need X rotations to stabilise: at that point, it needs velocity to stabilise. If you use some formulas like Greenhill or Miller, you can find out at what RPM your bullet needs to go, calculators like these make it a lot easier:
Now, the original 1:9.5 inch twist rate of x54R was for the 210 grain early projectiles, but it seems like this was never changed. That means that shorter 140-150 grain spitzers have no problem stabilising, even at lower velocity. The Berger calculator shows that a 155 grain .308 VLD should be fine with a 1:9.5 twist at 2600FPS, nevermind the lighter Soviet surplus .311 stuff. That bullet should still be stable with that twist rate down to a velocity of 600FPS. For reference's sake, GRT estimates that you should reach 600FPS with a 48 grain load of N140 (so big fireball) at a barrel length of 2.5 inches. That is 2.5 inches from the bolt face mind you.
Soviet surplus should therefore be able to stabilise in these guns, provided you properly crown the muzzle, meaning the projectile exits straight and in one piece. This was not a feature of most obrez pistols.
It's more likely that the bullet will survive the internal ballistics, but once it exits the barrel it will explode like an overspun varmint bullet. The jacket just can't hold together the centrifugal force at that point.
>None of you understand rifling and stabilisation, do you?
I don't, I don't have any custom guns yet so it hasn't been relevant to me. Although I wouldn't need to make it that short, apparently you can have a pistol as long as 25in in big bore, which by my Eurostan's laws passes as a rifle.
>Would you buy?
No. There aren’t many guns I wouldn’t, but no.
The barrels aren't long enough to warrent it being a bolt action
I probably would just for the fun of it, but it'd be cheaper just to grab any ol' cheap bolt-action rifle and just saw the barrel and stock of.
The Obrez is a style and doesn't have to be made from a Nugget.