I would like a cape like that

Do they smell as bad as the OZK chemical coat?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You'd be better off with a rope

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP is a fat inbred moron who watches too much capeshit and screams like a troony when his favorite capeshit appears as a camo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      back to your containment board

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Already here buddy

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloaks may see a resurgance in use because they can be decently effective in combatting detection by thermal imaging.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no they aren't
      you need a ridiculous amount of material to be undetected for more than about 30 seconds
      it needs to contain all the heat your body generates so its basically like wearing a -30f sleeping bag

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > be undetected for more than about 30 seconds
        Anon, adding 30 seconds to your detection time is a significant tactical advantage. That's how camouflage works.
        >it needs to contain all the heat your body generates
        No it doesn't. Creating a buffer zone between you and the sensor where the temperature is lower than your body temperature is still useful. I'm assuming thermal cloaks and shelters like those in use in Scandinavia work quite well for this - especially in stationary OPs etc.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a matter of degrees, pun not intented. Even clothes can cut down on your IR sig. Special materials like Goretex can even block IR entirely. The trick is that these materials will inevitably warm up with enough time so you need to constantly cool them down.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      no they aren't
      you need a ridiculous amount of material to be undetected for more than about 30 seconds
      it needs to contain all the heat your body generates so its basically like wearing a -30f sleeping bag

      The goal is not total masking. Look at vehicle IR camo. It's to make you look like something else or at least make you look not like what you are. This is doable because breaking up a human silhouette doesn't require looking like nothing on IR. It's the same principle at work in those Israeli helmet covers, which I think more people would use if they didn't look so fricking stupid.

      This will only get more useful as autonomous spotters become more common. It's not hard to see the advantage of mechanized forces moving with a drone screen out front, and that it would pay to have these be mostly autonomous so that a single operator can manage many. But then if AI is going to point out a possible threat, or fire it off into a fire mission queue for approval (autonomous 60-81mm mortars on IFVs and UGVs will make this quite quick), the AI has to be able to recognize the thing. So looking less obviously like a person will be very valuable, especially as autonomous batteries and mortars become more common (they already exist) because these will probably drastically up fire mission volume, speed, and accuracy in the near to medium future.

      The other technique I have seen suggested is using mortar tubes or artillery to blast slow burning shit into the air around an area. This has the disadvantage of telling the enemy you are trying to mask signatures in an area, although you can do decoys, but it also fricks with the perspective on drones, especially if they arent using two cameras. A bunch of bits of hot debris slowly settling at different altitudes especially fricks with AI image detection. If you can't hide a signal, blanketing an area with noise is an option. And if they already know your general location, this is preferable.

      I would expect to see a lot more smaller mortar tubes on IFVs and UGVs for these reasons. Also because, as drone AD gets better, one of the ways to get eyes on targets before your shit gets taken down is...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ...to fire the drones out of tubes so that they get there quick and fast. You can also string out fires so that drones can act as relays for one another, essentially blasting a network into the air with a volley, and then this carries back spotter data to your now mostly autonomous batteries and widely deployed mortars.

        China's RFP for big bore artillery (230mm IRRC) is widely thought to have more to do with firing drones than that they actually think frick huge artillery needs a comeback. In general, the better smart munitions get and shit like EFP firing shells, the smaller the shells you need. But you need big tubes or MLRS to launch larger drones.

        Both China and the US also have projects to use MLRS to deliver swarms of EFP firing direct attack drones, which would be a nightmare for anyone without AD.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good post, although I don't care how dumb the mitzefzekneztkekz is, I just refuse to associate with anything israeli.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >is
          *looks

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just get a poncho.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've got a Romanian one for larping around. No smell. Mediocre stitching at best and frickheavy canvas material. It'd be interesting to get one with modern materials. Windbreaker, softshell and/or hardshell.

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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous

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