3 days ago a dude took a Daniel Defense AR and tested the Trijicon by pointing it at my managers head from across the room. >but it’s unloaded bro!
Told him to gtfo
Another similar happening >guy walks in with his 8-9 y/o son >carrying an uncased 10/22 (against the rules) >range employee tells him his guns must be cased until he gets to the range >calls employee uneducated and proceeds to flag his son multiple times in the face >gets pissy and leaves a bad google review
>getting mad about someone bringing a gun to a gun range >trembling with fear because someone pointed an unloaded rifle in a particular direction
If you and your friends weren't a bunch of tightly wound cunts, you'd probably have better Google reviews.
Kek. I literally visited a gun store today (Friday) to make a down payment on an Omega 9K, and the employees at that gun store were flagging multiple people with their display guns, including myself. You're retarded if you're paranoid about people flagging others with guns that are clearly not loaded.
The difference is >employee >pick up gun, chamber check, fuck around >autistically >randoms >well I clear everything before I put it in the safe so yeah its been a while but its clear
Because retail employees are so much more competent than all of us.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Gun store/range employees are typically either /k/ tier spergs or redneck spergs who have been using guns their entire lives. Compared to the general gun owning, they’re much more qualified to handle firearms.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I trust the guys I work with every day a lot more than some random homosexual off the street. Also, safety and press checking is hammered into every employee from the day they're hired.
https://i.imgur.com/5ChFIwG.jpg
I should be truthful about that one, I got that pic from my old coworker that moved to Iowa.
I fixed this one first hand tho, and old shrubmaster carbon 15
Lady brought this in because she couldn't get the cylinder open. It had been sitting in a bathroom drawer for 10-15 years
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Lady brought this in because she couldn't get the cylinder open.
You think just firing off a shot or two would have loosened it again?
1 month ago
Anonymous
are those glaser safety slugs? damn, lady
1 month ago
Anonymous
1 month ago
Anonymous
yeah im dumb and knee jerked posted before refreshing the thread i know
1 month ago
Anonymous
Kek that revolver reminds me >finally turn 21 >start getting into guns and handguns >no longer blissfully unaware of simple gun maintenance >ask dad to borrow his SP101 to take to range >Says yeah go for it >it’s in his nightstand drawer where’s it’s sat untouched for maybe a decade >the cylinder is so stiff and crusty and full of dust and pet hair >pop it open and the insides are so crusty >ffs >clean, oil, and lube the shit out of it >tell dad his retarded and he just shrugs >tfw I realize our family’s safety was banking on a crusty 5 shot revolver half loaded with birdshot
1 month ago
Anonymous
Hey you never know. One guy I work with speaks fluent Korean and Japanese and worked near the DMZ when he was in the Air Force. He now unloads trucks with me.
1. That’s the range you went to. Not my store.
2. If a dude is breaking the rules posted **outside** and flags his child- and leaves then he is corrected for this behavior- not the ranges fault
I think it's kind of funny how flagging someone with an unloaded gun is le worst thing in the world, but when you put an unloaded gun in a flimsy plastic case nobody cares anymore where the muzzle of the gun is pointing at. It's like people don't believe in object permanence when it comes to guns.
The case rule is mainly to prevent legal annoyances (soccer moms would call the cops every time they saw a gun in someone's hand). But setting that aside a visibly empty and open action is definitely more safe than one in a case, which for all you know could be loaded with the safety off. In a better world more people would recognize that.
Checked. Few stories on this. >one of the first times I went to range without parent >brought dads .22 rifle >only in a fabric sleeve, no case >customer passing me in the parking tells me to go in and borrow a case first >borrow case, avoid getting yelled at
Another time >buddy and I at local gun shop >he’d been looking to buy a shotgun for a while >Used Mossberg 500 on sale for like 200 bucks >buys it on the spot and a few boxes of ammo >would you like to buy a case with that sir? >na >walks out of shop into busy parking lot surrounded by shops and restaurants >shotgun in one hand, ammo boxes in the other >pops trunk and tosses it all in next to his golf bag
Kekd all the way home.
OP here. Gonna leave y’all with a bit of wisdom taken from my experiences.
Customers: >Asians
Holy shit do Asians love guns. Very trigger happy people. If the whole “gun make small peepee feel bigger” phenomenon actually exists- it’s with Asians. Usually have pleasant experiences with Asian customers tho. >blacks
Zero negative experiences with black customers. Shocking, right? They’re usually not the most knowledgeable but they’ve been very easy going and polite. No argumentation or suHispanicions behavior so far. >Hispanics
Annoying. Ask a shit ton of dumbass questions in broken English and never buy anything. Not all are bad, but god damn Hispanics have been consistently the most suHispanicious customer base by far. >middle easterners
Serious people for the most part. Some are bros who like to shoot the shit, but generally speaking they want to move the process along smoothly and not create problems. >Indians
No Indian customers. Not one. Idk why. Honestly I’m fine with that. >whites
Younger white dudes are great customers. They know their shit and typically know what they want before they get here. Old white boomers on the other hand? HOLY FUCK. Half are extremely entitled, stubborn and condescending…will waste your time with the dumbest questions and requests, only to reject your answer because they “know better than you”. The other half of boomers are very sweet and knowledgeable, they have actually wisdom. >military/ LEO’s
FUCKING RETARDED. All I can say. Average IQ of our law enforcement customers has got to be 85. We’re fucked if another country invades us.
One funny time was when I denied some white chick with a gangbanger (black) boyfriend on suHispanicion of a straw sale. She started crying about racism, saying what I was doing was illegal, and called her dad who was a cop (he hung up on her pretty quick). Management got involved and pushed the sale through to not seem racist. Fast forward several months and I’m on one of my final shifts and she comes requesting information on the gun because her now exbf “stole” the gun. Didn’t say anything to her but just a shit eating from the whole time I was getting her the serial number and other info.
lmao, a while back I had a friend who managed a GS in the Atlanta area and I asked about the worst part of his job and he said >constantly having to go to court to testify about felons trying to buy guns
There was a state police officer who monitored the systems and they were on a first name basis >ring ring >hi >hi anons friend >oh hi anon-cop, another one? >yep, dont let them leave
>state police monitoring gun sales
Let me guess, Virginia?
>mfw I live in Va
wtf. Though I’ve never been held at the store or had problems while buying a gun.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>former VA gunstorefag
Yeah VSP is pretty on the ball with that shit. Got a LOT of phone calls where were asked to try and keep some rando in the store for a while.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I almost got shot for going 79 in a 70 while in VA.
>driving to friend's house after starting HBL >speeding slightly, but other people are passing me >I match speed with the semi trucks >state trooper pulls out and turns lights on >pulls in behind me, I turn my hazards on and start looking for a spot to pull over >finally pull over, start rolling window down >window isn't even down by the time he gets up to it, hand on his gun ready to draw >we make awkward eye contact while the window continues going down, he clearly was expecting a different person when he pulled me over >he mumbles something about my truck, couldn't really hear him >walks back to his car and radios something in >comes back to the window, gets my license, writes me a ticket, and leaves
I think he got a call for a similar vehicle (amber alert maybe?) and mistook me for someone else. I fully believe me being in my OCPs saved my ass that day
1 month ago
Anonymous
>me being in my OCPs saved my ass that day
Nah VA cops don't give a fuck about that, you were just the wrong color to get an asswhoopin. Next time try being black
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/19/1149924822/army-lieutenant-virginia-police-traffic-stop
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yea. That’s Virginia. Shithole due to the proximity to DC.
I lived there for a year, working at a fighter squadron, and that was enough for me, it felt like everyone was always trying to get one over on one another.
No matter where you were, or what you were doing, it’s like everyone was just obsessed with power.
Happy to be out. I’m a regular jackoff again.
https://i.imgur.com/pX5VRzj.png
I work at a gun store. AMA
Do you ever take just fuck around with the guns when the store is closed?
Maybe… give that whore Sako a little fingering?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>when the store is closed?
Nope, literally all the time. While talking to customers, in between customers, before and after opening.
One funny time was when I denied some white chick with a gangbanger (black) boyfriend on suHispanicion of a straw sale. She started crying about racism, saying what I was doing was illegal, and called her dad who was a cop (he hung up on her pretty quick). Management got involved and pushed the sale through to not seem racist. Fast forward several months and I’m on one of my final shifts and she comes requesting information on the gun because her now exbf “stole” the gun. Didn’t say anything to her but just a shit eating from the whole time I was getting her the serial number and other info.
Another one was this old black dude who would larp as a cop with a vest, bodycam, etc., only catch was he didn’t use guns. Definitely not a criminal/felon I believe, this dude was just obsessed with airguns. He’d talk my ear off for like an hour about different types of airguns, and the different neighborhoods/apartments he’d “patrol”.
>Zero negative experiences with black customers. Shocking, right?
Survivorship bias OP. If they intended to use the gun in a criminal way, they most likely wouldn't buy it legally. In other words, you get normal black people
>If they intended to use the gun in a criminal way, they most likely wouldn't buy it legally.
No, they would come into the store to point out the gun they want to their girlfriend, who would buy it easily.
>Zero negative experiences with black customers. Shocking, right? >(X) >Be me >Live in area with high Hispanic population but low (~3%) black population >Best friend's little bro works in an LGS >LGS isn't the best, I'm a hascans hasnods guccifag supreme, they don't have much I'm interested in but I try to support them anyways >They love my dog and my dog loves them so I stop by at least every couple weeks, buy some ammo or whatever >Even then I've seen every stereotypical nog/gunstore interaction short of them trying to rob the place >Ayo lemmeseedat muhfugin glawk mane >Is pointing to a M&P >Always want "dat beam" meaning a laser sight >One bought a Holosun IR then wanted to return "cuz it ain't work" he literally could NOT understand the concept of infrared light >Several have come in with AR pistols or P80 builds they fucked up trying to make them work, never in cases >Attempted straw purchases constantly >Always wit dey babaymama >Always pulling up in Altimas, V6 Chargers, Non-Wrangler Jeep models >I've overheard the in the parking lot scheming, "OK so aks to see dat Draco pistul den aks how much" >Friend's bro says store policy is to run background checks on both people if they're a couple but they only enforce it on blacks or methy/junkie looking Hispanics/whites >Not really LGS related butone guy who works there got his motorcycle stolen out of the parking lot, dude ran from the cops on it and died in a wreck.
I've been working in an LGS in CA for about 8 months now. Not really that surprised by what I've seen. Generally love it because it's small and our owner is based, so we get paid a decent wage but it's definitely hard work because there isn't a lot of us and we are perpetually swarmed with customers.
>Asians
Same experience. Either cool or a bit over-eager. The older ones tend to be dumb and don't listen to any instructions you give them. >Blacks.
Most have been cool. Couple hood rats throwing chimpouts when they got denied, but very much in the minority. Some talk/act a little ghetto but aren't unsafe per se, and we're happy to do business with them so long as the cash is green and background is clean. >Hispanics
Tons of them in our area, but they run the complete gamut from professionals to retarded trash. Absolutely true about asking way too many dumb questions and being indecisive as fuck. >Mideastern
Not too many, but either fairly knowledgeable or complete retard. No in between. >Indians.
We have had a few. Pretty broad spread from normal to clueless to really egotistical. Only consistent trend is bargain hunting and haggling. Always want the best deal, even if it's a difference of a few cents. >Boomers.
Absolutely true. About half of them are insufferable husks that I can barely tolerate. Entitled, opinionated, refuse to follow any rules, wrong about virtually everything and above all massive cheapskates. >Mil/LEO
Most mil have been fairly professional. Cop/ex-cop tend to be the most clueless about laws/rules/safety/prices. We have one guy spend $100 every week or so just to have his Glock and AR cleaned because he doesn't know how, even though we offered to show him so he could do it himself.
Bro there are some very wealthy people who frequent my store. Doctors, lawyers, oil industry retirees, etc. they’ll throw around a few grand like it’s nothing. Come back next week and do the same. Shooting is their hobby and they’ll spend the big bucks on it.
I get it, but it's still incredibly retarded. Knowing how to clean your weapon is guns 101. Even if I was a billionaire I'd still be doing that shit myself. It's my gun, I take care of it.
Do you manufacture your own cleaning solvents, oils, brushes, and patches out of materials you harvested from nature yourself, or do you outsource those aspects of gun care to someone else? Why not outsource the application of those cleaning agents to someone who will do a good job quickly? It's an arbitrary line.
1 month ago
Anonymous
This dude doesn't clean his own guns.
It's a matter of opportunity cost. I was talking to a EM doctor when I was shadowing her, and she broke down her contract. Her base pay is about $250 an hour, and if she does night-time work they throw in an extra $20 per hour. If she goes overtime (over 140 hours a month), she gets an extra $30 an hour on top. So it's not unfeasible that some of these people are making literally $300 an hour.
At that point you have to ask yourself a simple question--is it worth spending $100 for someone else to do something for you that may take you an hour, when 20 minutes of your time is $100. For 1 extra 12 hour shift (EDs usually work in either 8, 10, or 12 hour shifts), that'd be $3,600 in a single night. That buys you a lot of lawn care, garden care, hair care, car maintenance, and gun maintenance that you don't have to do.
Lawn care is one thing, weapon maintenance is completely another.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>This dude doesn't clean his own guns.
I do, but if I were less poor I might not. I guess that's what kids are for so I should probably get on that.
It's a matter of opportunity cost. I was talking to a EM doctor when I was shadowing her, and she broke down her contract. Her base pay is about $250 an hour, and if she does night-time work they throw in an extra $20 per hour. If she goes overtime (over 140 hours a month), she gets an extra $30 an hour on top. So it's not unfeasible that some of these people are making literally $300 an hour.
At that point you have to ask yourself a simple question--is it worth spending $100 for someone else to do something for you that may take you an hour, when 20 minutes of your time is $100. For 1 extra 12 hour shift (EDs usually work in either 8, 10, or 12 hour shifts), that'd be $3,600 in a single night. That buys you a lot of lawn care, garden care, hair care, car maintenance, and gun maintenance that you don't have to do.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Don’t try reasoning with him anon, he’s probably the same type of retard to think you’re not a “real man” if you don’t change your own oil.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Ive been there. I think its a good thing to know HOW to do it, and I know dad taught me how to change brake pads and calipers too. But the second I make more money an hour than it'd cost to pay a mechanic, then I'd be best off paying them.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Not even worth it these days. My car takes synthetic oil and the 5 quarts or whatever it needs is $45 meanwhile just taking it in is only like $55-60.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah, changing oil almost seems to be a loss leader for them, because the cost of the oil + the service is so cheap. Besides that, if I change my own I've got to dispose of the oil and that's a hassle all its own. >inb4 "not my problem"
1 month ago
Anonymous
Stop renting and burn it in your garage stove to stay comfy.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Stop renting and burn it in your garage stove to stay comfy.
I remember I used to be able to just dump used oil at auto zone or some shit. They had a tank in the back, they would let you dispose your oil in there. I haven’t done that shit in years so I’m not sure if they still do that.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You can just give it to a guy at the front counter now. Almost all of the auto stores are obligated to take used oil. Might be a state or federal mandate.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Not even worth it these days. My car takes synthetic oil and the 5 quarts or whatever it needs is $45 meanwhile just taking it in is only like $55-60.
Should say it good to know how to do it, but it’s not worth it these days depending on what type of oil your vehicle uses.
1 month ago
Anonymous
That anon is too poor to concieve that some peoples time is more valueable
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm an ED Doctor and I make less than 80,000 australian dollars per year before tax. Is this woman harvesting organs and selling them on the black market or something?
1 month ago
Anonymous
American docs make far, far more anon. Rural specialists in particular. A brit student and I compared notes, as a resident in my area I'd make 2/3rds of a Internal Med doc's salary in the UK, but in America my salary would quadruple from $55-65 to around 200-250k or more in the States.
1 month ago
Anonymous
*My salary would quadruple or more from around 55-65 as a Family resident (GP) to 200-250k+ as a Family (GP) Attending. She intended to finish medschool in the UK and hop over to join us ASAP. According to her it just didnt seem worth it to be a doc over there when the gov was paying under 100k (adjusting pounds-->USD. Granted, if you break down a residents salary per hour they make minimum wage. But the payoff after is extreme.
1 month ago
Anonymous
But at least you help dudes with floppy dicks get boners anon, you’re doing the Lord’s work.
I mean they're retarded yeah but they've got the money to afford to be that retarded. I'd offer my services as a cleaner for say 100 bucks to wipe down an AR. Don't even have to be that thorough. It's actually kind of a shame it's not more common of a thing, could be a nice side hustle. Free market and all that.
OP here. Good to hear you like the job! & yeah, seems like I live in an area similar to yours except not in Cali. >Indians being obnoxious bargain hunters
This is why I’m glad I never see them here.
I actually like it because I have permission from the manager to knock 5% off any item for any reason, so I can bait them into a sale. If they're hemming/hawing I give them 5% off and they go for it most of the time.
Now when they come beck the next day to cancel DROS because they found out it's 5$ cheaper somewhere else they get hit with the 20% restocking fee, so at that point they're stuck. If they don't come back after that I don't care. We got em on the one sale either way and if they really want to save a few more pennies I don't really want their business anyway. They can go be someone else's problem.
>Asians >Holy shit do Asians love guns.
They go all out. I noticed they like tricked-out ARs and stuff. Fancy stuff. It's all anime for them with the accessories and crazy nonsense.
>blacks >Zero negative experiences with black customers. Shocking, right?
Not shocking. When I've gone to the range or gone to gun shows in my gun-happy state, I noticed blacks would be super polite -- almost overdoing it in some cases. I think it's because the gun scene (so to speak) is traditionally a white male conservative thing and so they want to put on their best face and be really nice, but also want to relate to us and that's a positive thing. I think they're the black version of white liberals trying to relate with black people and wanting to be their friends and being overly nice. I don't work in a gun store and haven't seen any gangbangers where I'm at, but I'm sure they exist.
I'm talking about adults here too, of course. Not some teenagers or whatever.
>Hispanics. >Not all are bad, but god damn Hispanics have been consistently the most suHispanicious customer base by far.
Yes. I've noticed some who look like total fucking gangbangers. They need to clean up their act.
>I noticed blacks would be super polite -- almost overdoing it in some cases. I think it's because the gun scene (so to speak) is traditionally a white male conservative thing and so they want to put on their best face and be really nice
I do this and I’m Hispanic. Judging from this thread, it looks like I need to keep doing it. I can tell the employees think I’m probably just autistic
where are you guys? Here in philly our gun range has 'no draco'/'no sheisties'/'if you smell like pot we're kicking you out' signs everywhere and I doubt it's because of the gentrifying liberals.
OP here. Gonna leave y’all with a bit of wisdom taken from my experiences.
Customers: >Asians
Holy shit do Asians love guns. Very trigger happy people. If the whole “gun make small peepee feel bigger” phenomenon actually exists- it’s with Asians. Usually have pleasant experiences with Asian customers tho. >blacks
Zero negative experiences with black customers. Shocking, right? They’re usually not the most knowledgeable but they’ve been very easy going and polite. No argumentation or suHispanicions behavior so far. >Hispanics
Annoying. Ask a shit ton of dumbass questions in broken English and never buy anything. Not all are bad, but god damn Hispanics have been consistently the most suHispanicious customer base by far. >middle easterners
Serious people for the most part. Some are bros who like to shoot the shit, but generally speaking they want to move the process along smoothly and not create problems. >Indians
No Indian customers. Not one. Idk why. Honestly I’m fine with that. >whites
Younger white dudes are great customers. They know their shit and typically know what they want before they get here. Old white boomers on the other hand? HOLY FUCK. Half are extremely entitled, stubborn and condescending…will waste your time with the dumbest questions and requests, only to reject your answer because they “know better than you”. The other half of boomers are very sweet and knowledgeable, they have actually wisdom. >military/ LEO’s
FUCKING RETARDED. All I can say. Average IQ of our law enforcement customers has got to be 85. We’re fucked if another country invades us.
Asians where I live have all the cool rifles. I haven't seen anyone else with a non-ar rifle or non-pump shotty
LEO’s >FUCKING RETARDED. All I can say. Average IQ of our law enforcement customers has got to be 85. We’re fucked if another country invades us.
Most military only know the weapons they've been trained on.. And seriously, the overwhelming majority only shoot those weapons 1 or 2 times per year. Army requires qualification on assigned weapon annually. Most units only shoot for qualification (sending those who fail to make a sufficient score back to the battle-sight zeroing range to repeat the entire process. If you fail the first time, you could get 40/40 the 2nd time through, but you'll only be recorded as "marksman" (lowest passing range), rather than expert (which 37+/40 normally earns).
The guys who DO tend to know weapons better are those who are in the combat arms: infantry and cavalry in particular, because their livelihood revolves around BEING the guy who has to get that rifle to the right place, at the right time, and then use it in the right way. They take an avid interest in not only the army's standard issue weapons, the other stuff issued to "special" units, but also what other armies are carrying (to know what they could be facing).
However, very few of the weapons military personnel come into contact with are available at the typical gun store... pretty much only pistols. And even then, most likely only M-9 Baretta 9mm (hunk of junk compared to the M1911 .45 ACP)
My friends stepbrother was in the Air Force for 4 years. One day he asked to borrow my friend’s .243 for his son during deer season and he gave it to him. He proceeded to return the rifle with a round in the chamber and the safety off.
Nah, he's just a shabbos goy. He's been taught to self-deprecate every time he talks about race. It's a script. >blacks are actually cool people >I really like all races, but there are a few bad apples in every bunch >but I must say there are some deep flaws with white people
Hate people like this, and I’m not even white. Every time I watch a stand up show and it’s a white guy making the generic “hehe, us whypipo am I right?” it ruins the entire show for me. Fuck you guys for letting yourselves get cucked like this
Nah, he's just a shabbos goy. He's been taught to self-deprecate every time he talks about race. It's a script. >blacks are actually cool people >I really like all races, but there are a few bad apples in every bunch >but I must say there are some deep flaws with white people
Nah, he's just a shabbos goy. He's been taught to self-deprecate every time he talks about race. It's a script. >blacks are actually cool people >I really like all races, but there are a few bad apples in every bunch >but I must say there are some deep flaws with white people
OP here. Apparently you tards can’t read because I also shat on latinos and Indians. How does me dabbing on boomers make me le anti white?
Calm the fuck down. This is my real life experience by going outside and interacting with people.
>Get to your elders and own kind, takes a huge shit on them.
1. He also shits on others
2. The elders and "own kind" are the retards that allowed their countries to be overrun with blacks and all the other garbage California is pushing onto everyone everywhere in the world.
I'm white and I do think there's dumber and smarter races (same with violence), but I'm also not dumb enough to then pretend like tons of whites AREN'T just sheeple/traitors. If whites really were so great they wouldn't be so easily controlled and manipulated into letting their countries be invaded by africans and other crappy races. I WANT whites to be better, but I'm not going to pretend we're oh so based and smart and everything.
Go on, call me a israelite, I know you want to.
Nah, he's just a shabbos goy. He's been taught to self-deprecate every time he talks about race. It's a script. >blacks are actually cool people >I really like all races, but there are a few bad apples in every bunch >but I must say there are some deep flaws with white people
>defending the fucking boomers who sold out your future and are the very fucking reason you're in a multicultural corrupt hellhole while they enjoy their classic cars and McMansions you'll never be able to afford
holy fucking shit you polfags are so goddamn retarded. Imagine simping for "elders" that left nothing for you but overreaching government, a ruined economy, destabilized and degenerate society, and continue to be absolutely fucking insufferable for everyone they interact with.
>blacks >Zero negative experiences with black customers.
I went to a nog town and nog gun store a few times >black family run store, met owner at a gun show first >he had really good deals on XDs when they were changing them to mod 2, $150ish >walk in, tell him what I want and start doing paperwork >3 other melanated gentleman at the counter shooting shit >they include me in the convo, wanna know what I'm buying and where I'm shooting >2 other melanated gentlemen walk in ask for .40sw ammo >both buy a box of winchester white box and hassle the owner on why the price is so high >a noglet teen walks in wanting to buy a glawk >owner suddenly turns serious and yells at him to get the fuck out
Went back a few times because he usually has bretty good prices. Got used to the chatty guys nearly always being there lol.
Asians know better than just bullshit with the counter guy at the gun store
He doesn’t want to hear out bullshit we just do it research online and ignore any upswell bullshit foxalien or boomer safari land bullshit you’re trying to unload on idiots
When do you get shipments of crab legs? My LGS gets in Monday, but I can't go visit them and their range until Wedneday so I don't get them at the freshest.
The crab legs are all we eat on mondays now that caviar is harder to come by. The in house butler takes care of the logistics though.
Alone on a Friday night?
Yes but it’s all good.
God I worked at one of the busiest big box stores in the Houston area, and I’ve had some different experiences than you.
Sorry to hear that bro
Which gun store employee stereotype are you?
The jaded guy who realized that it’s just retail with the added aspect of being surrounded by morons with guns. Also I hate boomers more now. I still try to do my best tho.
What’s the profit margin for the store on a g19?
Depends on the store. Probably like $150ish. Maybe more maybe less.
Peanutbutter? Crunchy for sandwich, creamy on anything else.
How often do you get denials?
Usually not surprised based on how the person looks/acts?
Not often at all. Had my first denial very recently. >2 young Latino dudes, could barely speak English. >had to walk them through the 4473 form like they were little babbies >acted like hardened criminals >not the bombastic type, the monotone, emotionless cold type >ran the dudes info >instant denial >remember that the only words he immediately seemed to understand on the 4473 was “convicted felon”
Lmao
i saw someone come in a gun store one time to do a 4437 and transfer, they had a 11.5 or some shit AR with a stock on it and the employee was trying to explain to them why it's an sbr and why it's illegal and they really weren't getting it
eventually he just told them to leave the store
Yeah we had a 19 year old kid trying to get an SBR. Apparently it’s technically legal somehow but we just told him to call the ATF field office to make sure. We’re not about to give unlicensed legal advice to a kid who wants an SBR.
i saw someone come in a gun store one time to do a 4437 and transfer, they had a 11.5 or some shit AR with a stock on it and the employee was trying to explain to them why it's an sbr and why it's illegal and they really weren't getting it
eventually he just told them to leave the store
Seen something similar. I was standing in line and a dude whipped out an SBR with a foregrip (this was prior to the injunction). Clerk was like putitbackputitbackputitback
We had a cop walk in with a PTR 9 pistol and a collapsing stock, while we were having an ATF audit. I think they thought it was a department gun, which is probably the only reason he didn't get grilled by the agents.
I actually love those phone calls. It’s like a beloved /k/ meme come to life for me. I always tell my coworker afterwards and we have a good chuckle. Those idiots are usually nice people tho.
Ok based. But honestly the biggest problem I have is >people asking for an accessory or about the compatibility of an accessory with their gun- without knowing the exact make and model of their firearm. I cannot help you with technical questions about a gun you know little about that’s sitting at your house.
Also getting calls from impatient dudes wanting to know if their FFL transfers have arrived yet or if “we have all the proper info” from the sellers. It’s like dude, cut the BS. We’ll call you when it gets here. We don’t want a bunch of random ass FFL guns crowing out vault.
>Also getting calls from impatient dudes wanting to know if their FFL transfers have arrived yet or if “we have all the proper info” from the sellers. It’s like dude, cut the BS. We’ll call you when it gets here.
I do that... Im sorry okay.
How can’t you figure this out? You ask them how many shots their gun holds, when they say five you sell them a box of 38spl, if they say six you sell them a box of 38spl. The answer is 38 special how spastic are you?
Who cares what they actually have? They won’t shoot it anyway and you make a sale. I understand there are plenty of rounds usually used in a revolver but that doesn’t make you any less of a spastic.
1 month ago
Anonymous
If he has a shred of ethics in his body, he won't make a sale to an old lady who knows very little about her own firearm. You shouldn't shoot calibers that your gun isn't chambered for, and how fucked up would it be if her gun blows up because she was sold the wrong ammunition? Naturally, he won't make that sale, even though the blame should be entirely on her ignorance of her own weapon.
1 month ago
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>Who cares what they actually have? They won’t shoot it anyway and you make a sale. I understand there are plenty of rounds usually used in a revolver but that doesn’t make you any less of a spastic.
.38spl is the ranch dressing of revolver food. If the customer doesn't specify, that's what they get
Old people in particular have lots of obsolete obscure calibers, not gonna sell an elderly lady a $35 box of ammo she can’t return that might not even work.
I've only been shot at once, which is pretty good I guess. Guns coming from outside must be checked by an employee, otherwise we don't care about flagging with guns from behind the counter. We press check every gun before handing it to a customer anyways. I'm mostly in the back nowadays, doing piddly bullshit like cleanings, parts installs, AR builds, and scope mounts. I have a "it's unloaded Bro" jar back there, right next to my "it's fucked mate" jar.
I like having a bunch of regulars that come by just to bullshit. A number of them will slip me a 20 here and there since I don't usually charge them for my time, just for parts. Although we will install shit for free if you buy the shit from us anyways.
>pic - It's fucked mate
I actually like it because I have permission from the manager to knock 5% off any item for any reason, so I can bait them into a sale. If they're hemming/hawing I give them 5% off and they go for it most of the time.
Now when they come beck the next day to cancel DROS because they found out it's 5$ cheaper somewhere else they get hit with the 20% restocking fee, so at that point they're stuck. If they don't come back after that I don't care. We got em on the one sale either way and if they really want to save a few more pennies I don't really want their business anyway. They can go be someone else's problem.
We can do 5% off for anybody if it will make a sale, but if you're in all the time buying shit you get better discounts. Usually that's 20% over cost, or 15 if we really like them. Our normal margin is about 25% on new guns and optics, and 40% on used or parts/ammo.
I actually like it because I have permission from the manager to knock 5% off any item for any reason, so I can bait them into a sale. If they're hemming/hawing I give them 5% off and they go for it most of the time.
Now when they come beck the next day to cancel DROS because they found out it's 5$ cheaper somewhere else they get hit with the 20% restocking fee, so at that point they're stuck. If they don't come back after that I don't care. We got em on the one sale either way and if they really want to save a few more pennies I don't really want their business anyway. They can go be someone else's problem.
OP here. We do the 5% thing too.
For all the non gun store worker plebs in this thread- next time you’re at a gun store see if they can knock off 5%. Apparently it’s common practice
I guess I'll post some of my fucked up guns. This one was a noveske MG that was at a dead air shoot. Allegedly a 300 blk found it's way into the middle of a random magazine.
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OP here. We do the 5% thing too.
For all the non gun store worker plebs in this thread- next time you’re at a gun store see if they can knock off 5%. Apparently it’s common practice
You gotta be at least pleasant to talk to, otherwise one of those salesmen out front will fuck you with no lube. Don't just ask for a discount outright.
This was a suicide gun I got to clean up. Surprisingly the lady didn't want to sell it afterwards
1 month ago
Anonymous
Always grease your chokes. If you haven't taken them out recently, do it and lube it
1 month ago
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This henry came in on transfer, straight from Henry, during Covid. As soon as the customer picked it up, the stock snapped in half.
1 month ago
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I should be truthful about that one, I got that pic from my old coworker that moved to Iowa.
I fixed this one first hand tho, and old shrubmaster carbon 15
1 month ago
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i have the exact same shit red-dot sitting here in my desk lol
1 month ago
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that wood's grain flow looks very much not ideal for a stock.
1 month ago
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>The machine spirit YEARNS to become a Mare's Leg
1 month ago
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what grease is best for chokes, and anything different for threading?
1 month ago
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https://i.imgur.com/ZYYdT1E.jpg
I like having a bunch of regulars that come by just to bullshit. A number of them will slip me a 20 here and there since I don't usually charge them for my time, just for parts. Although we will install shit for free if you buy the shit from us anyways.
>pic - It's fucked mate
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We can do 5% off for anybody if it will make a sale, but if you're in all the time buying shit you get better discounts. Usually that's 20% over cost, or 15 if we really like them. Our normal margin is about 25% on new guns and optics, and 40% on used or parts/ammo.
Lmao. When I bought my Baikal MP-45 new, it had one factory choke so stuck that it took me and my dad both twisting it out with a contraption we made. In the end the choke and the barrel were too hot to touch from all the friction in the threads.
1 month ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/Y93lLuh.jpg
Always grease your chokes. If you haven't taken them out recently, do it and lube it
https://i.imgur.com/QPL3OS0.jpg
Don't shoot 260 out of a 25-06
Lmao this actually reminds me. >2 months ago >dude tries to use 300blk through a 5.56 barrel AR >blows up >dude leaves >another dude comes in with a 5.56 AR after him, same firing lane >finds an unforced 300blk round on the floor, left by the other dude >loads it in his magazine, blows his gun up too
1 month ago
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who the fuck loads ammo they find on the floor? I don't even bother to pick it up if I literally just dropped it.
1 month ago
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You must be really fat.
1 month ago
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I know a guy who does that. He fills old ammo boxes with found-at-range ammo. He scares me a little because he has the money and ammo stockpile to not have to do that. I pick them up and take them home but MARK them and keep them for reference. I'll probably get enough of them to get an ammo display one day, all unfired.
True, if you’re friendly and easy to work with then we’re more likely to give a discount. If you buy other shit that’s more of a guarantee you’ll get a discount. But the general rule of thumb is- if what you’re buying isn’t in “high demand”, we’ll give you a discount almost 100% of the time. Example: >sig p365 macro
High demand. We sell a lot of them. Likely no discount if that’s all you’re buying. >1911, .22lr pistols, revolvers, less “mainstream” guns, etc.
We’ll most likely give you a discount just to get them off the shelf.
I trust the guys I work with every day a lot more than some random homosexual off the street. Also, safety and press checking is hammered into every employee from the day they're hired.
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Lady brought this in because she couldn't get the cylinder open. It had been sitting in a bathroom drawer for 10-15 years
I asked if he tried to shoot a slug, he swore up and down only birdshot, as it was a duck/dove gun. The barrel ended up looking a bit bulged right there too.
And yeah, rat shot
>Lady brought this in because she couldn't get the cylinder open.
You think just firing off a shot or two would have loosened it again?
Revolvers rotate the cylinder as they fire, and the entire lock work was frozen solid. Not to mention rat shot doesn't have much recoil anyways.
lmao, my parents have the same furniture like those drawers in the back. several thousand miles away from the USA though.
Those are built in cabinets, all our cabinets and display cases were built as the owner is friends with a cabinet maker and everybody scratches each other's backs.
To finish that story, a guy brought in a XD .40 to get sights swapped and "I pulled the mag out in the truck bro." I had been working there about a week by then, and I was mopping on the opposite side of that wall. Dude started fumbling with the gun, trying to take the slide off and failing, when it fired. I came around the corner with my gun drawn and him and the newer than me guy were standing there dumbstruck. We found pic related still spinning on the ground a few seconds later, I freaked out a bit when I saw where it ricochet'd. If it had been an inch to the right, it wouldn't have bounced off the metal stud in the wall and it would've burst through the drywall to come to a stop in my gut. Afterwards I thought it was pretty funny that both him and I were carrying winchester Ranger-Ts, so we both almost caught a nu-black talon.
>it’s unloaded bro jar
I did something like this for myself. After a day at the range I left an empty shell in my shotgun. I had on round left so shot it. Then because I knew it was only one round, I didn’t pump it for another. Got home and later that day I pumped it before putting it away for giggles. My butthole puckered so hard hard when a shell came out. Even though there was no danger the thought that something was inside and I didn’t know it scared the shit out of me. I still keep that shell in my key bowl on my nightstand.
Unironically it feels good. People piss me off, I pray to the Dark Gods whatever I'm serving them is the meal that causes their heart attack. I put in extra effort, sometimes I'll even add another patty too. I want them to come back. I want them here every day of the week, twice a day, and thrice on Sundays. I'm killing them. Slowly. And I take great pleasure in that. Best part is when the ham planets have ham moons with them. You want 10 McChickens? Gladly. Extra mayo? Have some more on the side too, friend. Oh, and you demand I hurry up with your small coke? Take a large. Free of charge. Have a good day, ma'am :).
The last two times I was at the DMV I decided to pay attention to what was causing the most delays while waiting for my number to be called. Turns out it’s the retards who go to the DMV for service who slow everything down, not the DMV employees.
I try and call the DMV every time before I go to double check what I read on the state website for required forms, and they never answer. Usually the online info is correct, but I have been sent back once for two forms of mail which was a pain in the ass.
In general do you like it? Do you have customers that make you go "holy shit a retard like you is allowed to buy guns?". Reletive to other sales jobs do you find the clientele easier to work with?
The part about straw purchases is absolutely true.
Which reminds me, don't buy a .50 BMG in Texas right now unless you want to talk with an ATF agent. They are literally visiting every person that does to make sure the gun isn't going to the cartel. They did a sting at our store because someone was getting a OOW semiauto M2 transferred through us. He was a retarded Mexican, so I don't doubt it was actually intended for a cartel, but they wanted 4473s on everybody that bought a .50 through us and all the stores around us.
are the ATF allowed to make and change laws? no, but they do it anyways. They always get away with it until the supreme court decides to do something about it.
Yes, they are allowed to request 4473s at any time for any reason, and as a FFL you are required to submit them within 24 hours of notification to keep your licensure.
Or you could, you know, say no.
Then they revoke your FFL and you're out of business. The anon you're responding to is retarded, and not me who posted about 50 BMGs. It's not a law, they aren't breaking any laws, nor creating any. They aren't going around arresting random .50 BMG owners for no reason, but that doesn't mean they can't hassle you.
I'll even add to that, during the sting they did at our store, they didn't even arrest the guy. They confiscated the OOW .50 and also the spear lt he brought in at the same time to get a muzzle brake installed (he might eventually get that back since it was actually his), but he walked away and drove home after they were done. There were other signs that it was a straw purchase that got the ATFs attention, the OOW was paid for by a completely different person, who was probably already under surveillance.
His entire rant is 100% accurate to my recollections of working at a gun store. Somewhere around the time you stop flinching when a customer points a gun directly at your chest is when you start thinking maybe gun laws aren't the worst thing in the world.
>Somewhere around the time you stop flinching when a customer points a gun directly at your chest is when you start thinking maybe gun laws aren't the worst thing in the world.
I kinda agree and disagree about this. On one hand, people ARE retarded, tho in large part because of seeing too many shitty media and not taking any time to learn about the real thing. On the other, shitting on the US constitution any more just feels sad.
In countries without the 2A, you can try to come up with sensible gun laws (e.g. age requirements, proof you've never been convicted of anything, MAYYYYBEEE some basic psychological testing (again, maybe)), but in America you can either break the constitution (again) and introduce some retarded law written by people who never held a gun in their life or, well >Somewhere around the time you stop flinching when a customer points a gun directly at your chest is when you start thinking maybe gun laws aren't the worst thing in the world.
There's no law that could prevent retardation short of implimenting strict totalitarian education and iq-based eugenics programs. Hell, maybe if there werent gun laws and smoothbrains could just buy pre-loaded hi points out of vending machines they'd bother gun store employees less.
Some of the worst customers I dealt with in terms of safety as well as general assholery were boomers who had a tendency to espouse the desire for "reasonable gun control" cuck shit, ironically.
>Some of the worst customers I dealt with in terms of safety as well as general assholery were boomers who had a tendency to espouse the desire for "reasonable gun control" cuck shit, ironically.
In my experience, a disturbing number of anti-gun liberals' rationale is "because if I had a gun I know I would [commit an unhinged atrocity] whenever someone [caused a minor disagreement, misunderstanding, or inconvenience]." Gun control seems to be advocated by the people who need it most.
Those aren't the ones I'm talking about, the ones you see at the gun shop are all retarded fuck-you-got-mine boomers that don't like youngins (and browns, but they're too cowardly to admit that openly) being armed, because it ruins the safety blanket and power fantasy their condition 3 1911 provides them. Once you notice it a lot of things start making sense. They want to be the badass gunslinger like in their spaghetti westerns but they don't want to train, so seeing young guys getting ARs and modern pistols and actually training for gunfights and being genuinely interested in firearms and shooting causes them to absolutely shid their pants. They hate Hi Points and Taurus not because they're shitty guns, but because they allow a zoomer mcwagie to have the same firepower they have. There's also no consistency in what level of gun control they want, it's whatever makes sure they have what they want and nobody else.
Boomer buys an AR? >"Well it's all good fun, something something home defense blah blah thinly vieled murder fantasy heh heh, i'm a good ol boy. muh librulz."
Literally anyone else buys an AR? >"WHUDDUH YA NEED THAT FOR?! WHUTZE PLANNIN TA DO WITH DAT THING? JUST AINT RIGHT..."
it's all gun control for thee and not for me. Most of them don't even like guns or shooting, they like the symbolic act of owning them. God I fucking hate them.
[...] >defending the fucking boomers who sold out your future and are the very fucking reason you're in a multicultural corrupt hellhole while they enjoy their classic cars and McMansions you'll never be able to afford
holy fucking shit you polfags are so goddamn retarded. Imagine simping for "elders" that left nothing for you but overreaching government, a ruined economy, destabilized and degenerate society, and continue to be absolutely fucking insufferable for everyone they interact with.
Damn that’s accurate. It really is just a dislike of youngins and gayekeeing a hobby they believe they invented. They also don’t like seeing first time gun owners going straight to modern rifles and pistols instead of going through the long and expensive path they took. They literally want newbies to buy .22s and expensive bolt action rifles, learn to shoot for years, then “earn” modern weapons.
>Somewhere around the time you stop flinching when a customer points a gun directly at your chest is when you start thinking maybe gun laws aren't the worst thing in the world.
Wait until you realize our rules are even bigger idiots.
It's not if idiots should be allowed guns, it's who's doing the allowing that's a bigger issue.
If you buy a used gun from a customer, how much do you pay them below the value that you expect to get from the gun when you sell it forward? What variables go into that calculation?
We look for about 60% of wholesale value, but we're also cheap bastards and we have a (thankfully small) corporate structure to answer to. For a gun that's still available, we take our cost on a new one, and chop off 40%. If it's something out of production, we search gunbroker and the blue book for an average current selling price, and 40% off that. Condition is important too, we don't buy anything broken or with a fucked up finish unless it's something one of the employees or a good, regular customer wants. Scratches and shit are normal wear, but I'm not buying grandad's old Saturday night special with no finish left. It has to look good on the shelf.
We always tell people they are better off selling to someone third party if they want the most they can get out of it. There's a gun show almost every other weekend around here, so it's not super difficult to sell.
>places started gouging hard during the pandemic
No kidding, LGS used to be $15 transfer for any gun, now it's $70 for new firearms and $7 for used. Cheapest I've found for new firearms locally is $40, though I don't even really have the choice since everything new I want is banned as an assault weapon thanks to the state's new AWB. Fuck IL, flat land shithole of a state.
According to a quick search as I don't know off the top of my head, at least 2013-ish. I was surprised to see my small range on the map. Either that means someone screwed around in google maps/earth searching for "shooting range" in various locations in my county, uploading whatever they found, or that means someone here also belongs to my local range...
I think I posted most of my gunstore stories before, and a bunch of them got capped, but highlights were: >the customer who wanted to know if the 38SPL or the 45ACP would work in his 9mm >the guy who wanted "Glock" ammo and refused to tell me which caliber his Glock was in >the time a guy bought three different guns and changed his mind after the 4473 was run each time >all the expired driver's licenses I saw >the guy who wanted a background check run on him before buying the gun >the dozens upon dozens of customers who walked in reeking of weed and asked "can i see dat ayy arr pee mane?"
>the guy who wanted "Glock" ammo and refused to tell me which caliber his Glock was in >the guy who wanted a background check run on him before buying the gun
>the guy who wanted a background check run on him before buying the gun
Lmao this would happen so often to me working at a big box store in a high traffic ghetto area.
>the guy who wanted a background check run on him before buying the gun
Was he trying to make sure he wasn't going to get in trouble for being a prohibited person buying a gun?
>the guy who wanted a background check run on him before buying the gun
Lmao this would happen so often to me working at a big box store in a high traffic ghetto area.
Tbh I had similar curiosities when I first stepped into gun stores. I shot plenty of guns growing up but didn’t know anything about laws and policies. So hearing that you had to do a “background check” like on TV was super interesting and intimidating. Also assumed they could just type your name in the computer and pull up a profile or something and tell you if you qualify. Luckily didn’t actually ask and embarrass myself. I did see some other noob ask that exact question and get a very tired and annoyed answer from the employee.
>what noob lol look at this homosexual guys lmao
This is why I don't interact with gun store employees beyond saying "Can I hold that one please" and "Thanks, I think I'm gonna order this online"
this
With how condescending and impatient LGS employees are, it’s no wonder the gun hobby is dying. No one wants to bother with their autistic gatekeeping anymore and, frankly, I don’t blame them
>There are more gun owners and more guns in private hands today than at any other time in history
in absolute or relative numbers? Because it only matters if the relative numbers are high
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Because it only matters if the relative numbers are high
Anon, do you understand what a "force multiplier" is?
I moonlighted at the local Academy Sports and Outdoors’ gun counter while I was a TA in grad school. I missed colloquiums and didn’t give a fuck I was making that just-above minimum wage pay selling steel.
teal, pink, and purple SCCYs unironically. They fucking love those pieces of shit. Ruger EC9s in similar colors sell well to those demographics too. I dont fucking get it, both guns have atrocious triggers and seem hard for them to rack the slide, but i guess pretty colors offsets usability for them.
Not robbing, burglarized though. Broke in at about 330 AM and were only in the store for 5 minutes. Took them 45 minutes to get through the gates and front door though. Broke all our top glass and took a bunch of pistols, a few ARs, and a PSL. Thankfully they left the used cabinet alone. New guns are replaceable, I can't replace used guns. Last we had heard they were still looking for the 3 guys and a driver. Supposedly a few pistols have been recovered, but somewhere there is a gangbanger with a Hudson H9.
>Get to your elders and own kind, takes a huge shit on them.
1. He also shits on others
2. The elders and "own kind" are the retards that allowed their countries to be overrun with blacks and all the other garbage California is pushing onto everyone everywhere in the world.
I'm white and I do think there's dumber and smarter races (same with violence), but I'm also not dumb enough to then pretend like tons of whites AREN'T just sheeple/traitors. If whites really were so great they wouldn't be so easily controlled and manipulated into letting their countries be invaded by africans and other crappy races. I WANT whites to be better, but I'm not going to pretend we're oh so based and smart and everything.
Go on, call me a israelite, I know you want to.
>If whites really were so great they wouldn't be so easily controlled and manipulated
Getting kinda /misc/ here, but you took the words out of my mouth before I could say them. The parasites are gonna do their thing no matter what, so at some point you have to grow a damn immune system against parasites. Or not, and then you get what you fucking deserve.
>work at a gun store. AMA
What gun are all the israelites buying right now since Israel started bombing hospitals and everyone hates them publicly, making US israelites feel insecure?
Guy at my lgs told me and another customer that guns aren't where they make their money. Ammo and accessories are their big ticket items. Sounds like a load of garbage to me, but it there any truth to it?
Average margins are only about 20-25% on new guns at brick and mortar stores. Online stores are able to get away with about 10% over cost since they don't have as many employees to pay. We get 40% on used guns and parts, so yeah, parts and ammo are more profit.
Guns have a lot more competition since people aren't buying them on a whim like ammo or ear pro
My 1 man local LGS says he doesn't make a ton on new firearms and will often tell me to just buy what I found on gun.deals because he can't match it with his distributor
Every FFL I've had do a transfer takes a million years to tell me that it's the gun has come through or that my paperwork cleared.
Is it this fucking hard to get someone to reach out or are they being lazy dicks on purpose
Home FFL, but apparently he gets a lot of business cause his gunsmithing is pretty good
The gun has to be entered into the gunbook before it can be transferred. Depending on the store, it may only be the manager that can enter it, and if he's busy with other shit it may take a while before he gets in the back to receive inventory. There's nothing more annoying than people coming in for transfers because they got a notification of delivery. Yeah, your shitty canik is here, it's still sitting in the back waiting with the other 20 transfers and 10 boxes of our inventory orders. NICS responses just require someone to check it every so often. Also keep track of your Brady date if you consistently get delayed, they may not remember to call you back to remind you.
Lmao yeah I called the moment I got the delivery notification. To be fair though, I've had issues before with Cabela's taking 2 weeks to deliver a gun and another FFL that just didn't realize my gun came in.
I'm guessing since he's got like 2 workers at most so I guess I can wait another couple days for a call.
Or just call to confirm delivery. That's not so bad. Say you're expecting a box from so and so, and you want to make sure it was delivered correctly. We will occasionally have boxes deliver to our corporate headquarters (thankfully it's only two buildings away) and we will have mini-heart attacks when we can't find the shit at first. I was mostly bitching about the people that just show up right after delivery, expecting to pick it up right then.
The gun has to be entered into the gunbook before it can be transferred. Depending on the store, it may only be the manager that can enter it, and if he's busy with other shit it may take a while before he gets in the back to receive inventory. There's nothing more annoying than people coming in for transfers because they got a notification of delivery. Yeah, your shitty canik is here, it's still sitting in the back waiting with the other 20 transfers and 10 boxes of our inventory orders. NICS responses just require someone to check it every so often. Also keep track of your Brady date if you consistently get delayed, they may not remember to call you back to remind you.
yeah uhhhhh can I get a uhhhhhh box of .30-06 and a uhhhhh VP9 and how about a uhhhhhh whatever weird milsurp pistol you have in the cabinet thanks that'll do it
not OP but assistant manager at a LGS and have quite a few stories at this point
>super young looking Balkan kid comes in >"what's the cheapest gun you have?" >is cool, not everyone is made of money >"we're selling these SCCY handguns for $100 a piece. they're definitely not great, but if you just want something to throw in a cupboard somewhere, you can take it home for a bill >doesn't say anything, just nods >pulls out his phone, starts swiping on it >"do you have a..... "Glock four three x?" >you mean the 43X? >"yeah that one" >this goes on for some time as he continues to ask if we have guns he's clearly reading off his phone >eventually he settles on a Glock 17 Gen 5 >at this point I'm pretty apprehensive but if he passes the NICS check whatever. >tell him I just need his drivers license and a PTC or PTP >gives me his drivers license >18 >doesn't even know what a permit to carry is >"sorry, you have to be 21 to purchase a handgun from an FFL" >"ah alright" >"so whats the smallest shotgun you have?" >lol wut >"smallest or cheapest?" >"smallest" >show him a Mossberg Maverick 88 >he looks at it for about 3 seconds >"i'll take it" >"alright, just gotta have you do a 4473" >"whats that?" >bro >explain how background checks work >"is there any way i can get it without one?" >100% convinced it's a gang related straw purchase at this point. >finally get him to agree to do a 4473 >e-form won't let him go to the next page >he has non-citizen checked >"are you a U.S citizen?" >he is not a U.S citizen >he is a Bulgarian >tell him I can't help him, and I won't sell him anything
fast forward a week
>local PD shows up with a picture of the kid asking if he was at our store >he (somehow) had a legit SSN, as a non-citizen >went to the local big box store, bought a Maverick 88 with a pistol grip (got proceeded immediately cause there was no record of him in the system) >went home and blew his head off with it >they're still waiting on the dental records
They can and non PRs can too if they have some form of govt issued supplemental information (hunting license is most common) in conjunction with their I95.
They can and non PRs can too if they have some form of govt issued supplemental information (hunting license is most common) in conjunction with their I95.
they can, but stores are under no obligation to sell them one
but with the way he was acting it seemed pretty clear to me that this wasnt a case of a non-citizen who had all his ducks in a row and just wanted to get into the hobby
...Huh. Why'd he want to pay for a Glock when he was just going to KYS himself, I wonder?
They can and non PRs can too if they have some form of govt issued supplemental information (hunting license is most common) in conjunction with their I95.
they can, but stores are under no obligation to sell them one
Finally something I know about. My brother in law is a permanent resident from South America. Been here over a decade and recently became old enough to buy guns. Bought a heritage .22 and PSAR-15. Both online and transferred through my local hole in the wall shop. All went well apparently, they barely blinked at his paperwork.
Question related to this
What is the most memorable customer that you had to turn down a gun to because they were obviously not all there or legit?
Politicians think red flag laws are the answer when I think our sellers should have enough common sense to filter out retards
Problem is those common sense judgement calls will end up creating "discriminatory patterns" the ones pushing for gun control don't want to admit are based in reality so it has to be guns for everybody, even the retards.
Not quite the same, but I had a blind guy come in to take a CCW class. He actually did pretty well considering he needed an assistant to guide him into the building.
i really dont end up having to exercise a lot of personal discretion. the only people that get denied are usually people who have a DUI from 4 years ago they just have to straighten out with the sheriffs office. bulgarian kid was def the most memorable. rip my nigga stanimir
>hanging out in back waiting for customers >phone starts ringing >pick it up >"yes hello do you have any glock drum magazines?" >"yeah we've got a few on the shelf" >"excellent, i'll be in shortly" >30 minutes later or so >early 2000s audi r8 in showroom condition comes flying down the street doing like 20 over (we have a bunch of big windows and the shops right on main) >car accelerates into a parking space at like 30 miles an hour >no one comes out for like 5 minutes >finally, 2 young black guys get out >one of them is wearing a nike tech fleece with sweatpants and white hi-tops. other one is wearing a basketball jersey and shorts >herewegoagain.jpg >guys come in, make a beeline for the magazines >guy in the tech fleece grabs a glock promag drum >they walk up to the counter and i start checking them out >"you have the glock 17 right?" (checking to make sure so he doesnt come back and complain about it not fitting) >"thats the one" the guy says cheerfully >he continues >"i've got the glock 17C gen 3. the C actually stands for compensated. i love how the gun feels, but the trigger leaves something to be desired. i believe i'd like to make an upgrade sometime in the near future, which i'm sure would improve my accuracy" >glance over my shoulder to verify john quiñones is not standing behind me >he isn't >ask the guy if he would like a receipt >"oh please, if it wouldn't be too much trouble" he replies, as the machine is already automatically printing his receipt >they leave >exit the parking lot at mach 5
I noticed this at my armored truck job years ago, worked with armed noggs in a bad neighborhood and noticed a rare few would fall into becoming gun autistic to the point of being indistinguishable from one of us. Funny because to the other 99% that pistol mind as well have been a magical staff in terms of basic understanding and proficiency.
>at shop, j chilling >trust fund autist and shop regular comes in >always wearing crocs or dress shoes with cargo shorts and a t-shirt, regardless of weather, season, or time of day >constantly asking us about getting ahold of obscure soviet calibers >he tells me he just got a SCAR and he wants to put a red dot magnifier setup on it, asks if he can go out to the car and get it >yeah ofc bro >comes back in and sets case on the counter, barrel end toward me >i'm tall, so the end of the case (and hence, the barrel) is like 2 and a half inches from my cock >he unzips the case and folds it open >glance down, notice theres a magazine in the gun and the bolt is closed >safety is also off >lemmeclearthat.png >pick up the gun, drop the mag >it's loaded >rack the charging handle >round flies out and hits the optics cabinet
not a homosexual redditor so i didn't kick him out or yell at him or anything, just asked that he makes sure it doesn't happen again. still a little close for comfort
>work at gun store >sell dude a turkshit monastor 12 gauge 870 clone new for $140 >guy brings gun in complaining it wont go into battery and 12 gauge shells wont fit all way >inspect gun >mfw i find a 16 gauge shell seated partially down barrel
Where do you guys get most of your inventory? I'm opening one in the midwest soon and trying to figure everything out. I understand about being direct distributors from brands but I'd love to hear how you guys keep your inventory of parts and ammo and other stuff stocked.
I worked as a gunsmith for the largest gun store in my state and I still have nightmares about that fucking place. People brought in the worst shit, I probably have a story for every single type of gun ever made outside of some oddballs. It was fun to see the cool shit but good god dealing with the worst retards imaginable and fixing other gunsmiths major mistakes was too much.
Story time. Oh btw do you recommend using gun cleaner oil on barrels? Pic kinda related is my bolt after shooting chinky stinky and I got some carbon on my barrel.
When in doubt, ballistol. I've had great luck using it after shooting awful corrosive surplus. You'll have to get used to the smell. Perfume afterwards with G96 gun oil for that sweet scented candle smell.
Speaking of barrels, >Guy dropped off a nice 8mm Gasser revolver >Says it was way too innacurate and the barrel must be shot out >Brought an extra "new" barrel he bought that he said the bullets are noticeably tighter in when he does a muzzle check >Gets checked in to work on >Start working on it later >Do muzzle check with a a 8mm Gasser projectile seems fine, bore is great, dont understand where he is coming from. Test fired fine without any accuracy issues >Muzzle check on the "new" barrel >Incredibly tight, like trying to put a .380 in a .32 >look inside barrel >literally only one land of rifling on the "new" barrel is visible, so corroded and shit that its basically a squeezebore with pits visible up and down the only land >call guy and tell him the "new" barrel is basically useless >adamant that the "new" barrel is tighter and better >okay >coworker is like "yeah he's a retard but he pays us for it" >decide I am not going to make this gun worse in every way and just let my coworker do it
Stuff like this is why I left and never looked back.
No problem, I'll give advice if you want as well. Here's another one I will never forget.
>Guy calls and says he has a Krag sporter he's been working on and he brought it to a gunsmith to install the front sight >After he installed the front sight he can't take the gun apart now >What >Guy brings the krag in >Beautifully done krag sporter, its a full length mannlicher stock, good wood, front band is original and held captive by the sight >wait >front band is held captive by the sight >previous gunsmith installed the stock, installed the front band, and soldered on the front sight IN BETWEEN the arches of the front band >you can now no longer move the front band forwaed and thus you can not remove the stock >stare at for like 5 minutes with the customer, dude is just as dumbfounded as I am >we are both horrified of fucking up the wood >fuck it we ball, I am going to get this front sight off >pray that whoever did this also sucked at silver soldering >sit there for a few minutes with one of those shitty gas station butane torches >see something bubble >wack the sight off into the wall with my mallet >dude sucked at silver soldering, thank god >customer satisfied
Gunsmiths are gunsmiths worst nightmares.
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No problem, I'll give advice if you want as well. Here's another one I will never forget.
>Guy calls and says he has a Krag sporter he's been working on and he brought it to a gunsmith to install the front sight >After he installed the front sight he can't take the gun apart now >What >Guy brings the krag in >Beautifully done krag sporter, its a full length mannlicher stock, good wood, front band is original and held captive by the sight >wait >front band is held captive by the sight >previous gunsmith installed the stock, installed the front band, and soldered on the front sight IN BETWEEN the arches of the front band >you can now no longer move the front band forwaed and thus you can not remove the stock >stare at for like 5 minutes with the customer, dude is just as dumbfounded as I am >we are both horrified of fucking up the wood >fuck it we ball, I am going to get this front sight off >pray that whoever did this also sucked at silver soldering >sit there for a few minutes with one of those shitty gas station butane torches >see something bubble >wack the sight off into the wall with my mallet >dude sucked at silver soldering, thank god >customer satisfied
Gunsmiths are gunsmiths worst nightmares.
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Taking this chance to ask someone experienced a gun question. My PSA AR upper came in the other day. But the front ring plate that holds in the drop in handguards is fucking triangular instead of round. So I have to keep the basic ass handguards in or go through the pain of removing the whole front sight post. Is it even worth going through the process of switching it out? I have an extra round plate to spare but it seems like a lot of work for a $100 upper.
I'm fairly sure midwest industries makes a triangular quad rail. I'm fairly sure because I put one on mine after having the same internal monologue only for a week later the free floats came back in stock. Search for a two piece quad rail and you'll do fine. Be aware, it's a tight fit.
I've always had interest in working at an LGS but I know for a fact that my current job wouldn't allow me to work part time at one and the LGS would not want me around because of my current job
I've never bought a firearm online before, if I have one sent to an FFL do I have to notify them first before I have it sent there or can I just have it sent there and not bother notifying them?
I've only bought guns online and sent them to a handful of different local ranges.
You don't need to call and let them know. This is business as usual for them. Place your order and wait for them to call you when they receive it. Easy peasy.
green texts now
This, tell us your stories elder gun store boomer, please.
How many times has a customer aimed an off the wall gat at you or a coworker? Like the Simpsons.
3 days ago a dude took a Daniel Defense AR and tested the Trijicon by pointing it at my managers head from across the room.
>but it’s unloaded bro!
Told him to gtfo
Another similar happening
>guy walks in with his 8-9 y/o son
>carrying an uncased 10/22 (against the rules)
>range employee tells him his guns must be cased until he gets to the range
>calls employee uneducated and proceeds to flag his son multiple times in the face
>gets pissy and leaves a bad google review
>getting mad about someone bringing a gun to a gun range
>trembling with fear because someone pointed an unloaded rifle in a particular direction
If you and your friends weren't a bunch of tightly wound cunts, you'd probably have better Google reviews.
>t. Small dick homosexual with zero assets who got upset an erroneously perceived slight
Oh hi there! How's your son doing?
Butthurt redneck cuck detected
I'm sure you'll be fine if someone shoot you in the head beacuse you'll just catch the bullet with your teeth, right?
Kek. I literally visited a gun store today (Friday) to make a down payment on an Omega 9K, and the employees at that gun store were flagging multiple people with their display guns, including myself. You're retarded if you're paranoid about people flagging others with guns that are clearly not loaded.
The difference is
>employee
>pick up gun, chamber check, fuck around
>autistically
>randoms
>well I clear everything before I put it in the safe so yeah its been a while but its clear
Because retail employees are so much more competent than all of us.
Gun store/range employees are typically either /k/ tier spergs or redneck spergs who have been using guns their entire lives. Compared to the general gun owning, they’re much more qualified to handle firearms.
I trust the guys I work with every day a lot more than some random homosexual off the street. Also, safety and press checking is hammered into every employee from the day they're hired.
Lady brought this in because she couldn't get the cylinder open. It had been sitting in a bathroom drawer for 10-15 years
>Lady brought this in because she couldn't get the cylinder open.
You think just firing off a shot or two would have loosened it again?
are those glaser safety slugs? damn, lady
yeah im dumb and knee jerked posted before refreshing the thread i know
Kek that revolver reminds me
>finally turn 21
>start getting into guns and handguns
>no longer blissfully unaware of simple gun maintenance
>ask dad to borrow his SP101 to take to range
>Says yeah go for it
>it’s in his nightstand drawer where’s it’s sat untouched for maybe a decade
>the cylinder is so stiff and crusty and full of dust and pet hair
>pop it open and the insides are so crusty
>ffs
>clean, oil, and lube the shit out of it
>tell dad his retarded and he just shrugs
>tfw I realize our family’s safety was banking on a crusty 5 shot revolver half loaded with birdshot
Hey you never know. One guy I work with speaks fluent Korean and Japanese and worked near the DMZ when he was in the Air Force. He now unloads trucks with me.
1. That’s the range you went to. Not my store.
2. If a dude is breaking the rules posted **outside** and flags his child- and leaves then he is corrected for this behavior- not the ranges fault
It isn’t your store, you’re just a wagie there
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I think it's kind of funny how flagging someone with an unloaded gun is le worst thing in the world, but when you put an unloaded gun in a flimsy plastic case nobody cares anymore where the muzzle of the gun is pointing at. It's like people don't believe in object permanence when it comes to guns.
The case doesn't have retarded fidgety fingers that refuse to stay out of the trigger guard.
The case rule is mainly to prevent legal annoyances (soccer moms would call the cops every time they saw a gun in someone's hand). But setting that aside a visibly empty and open action is definitely more safe than one in a case, which for all you know could be loaded with the safety off. In a better world more people would recognize that.
A gun can’t go off in a case unless it’s a sig
Checked. Few stories on this.
>one of the first times I went to range without parent
>brought dads .22 rifle
>only in a fabric sleeve, no case
>customer passing me in the parking tells me to go in and borrow a case first
>borrow case, avoid getting yelled at
Another time
>buddy and I at local gun shop
>he’d been looking to buy a shotgun for a while
>Used Mossberg 500 on sale for like 200 bucks
>buys it on the spot and a few boxes of ammo
>would you like to buy a case with that sir?
>na
>walks out of shop into busy parking lot surrounded by shops and restaurants
>shotgun in one hand, ammo boxes in the other
>pops trunk and tosses it all in next to his golf bag
Kekd all the way home.
Is there a 'Happy Ending' option?
The happy ending is going online and using us as an FFL instead of buying our overpriced glawk brand glawks and p365’s
ding ding.
gun stores are only good for used guns usually.
when bubba boomer actually dosen't know what hes got
OP here. Gonna leave y’all with a bit of wisdom taken from my experiences.
Customers:
>Asians
Holy shit do Asians love guns. Very trigger happy people. If the whole “gun make small peepee feel bigger” phenomenon actually exists- it’s with Asians. Usually have pleasant experiences with Asian customers tho.
>blacks
Zero negative experiences with black customers. Shocking, right? They’re usually not the most knowledgeable but they’ve been very easy going and polite. No argumentation or suHispanicions behavior so far.
>Hispanics
Annoying. Ask a shit ton of dumbass questions in broken English and never buy anything. Not all are bad, but god damn Hispanics have been consistently the most suHispanicious customer base by far.
>middle easterners
Serious people for the most part. Some are bros who like to shoot the shit, but generally speaking they want to move the process along smoothly and not create problems.
>Indians
No Indian customers. Not one. Idk why. Honestly I’m fine with that.
>whites
Younger white dudes are great customers. They know their shit and typically know what they want before they get here. Old white boomers on the other hand? HOLY FUCK. Half are extremely entitled, stubborn and condescending…will waste your time with the dumbest questions and requests, only to reject your answer because they “know better than you”. The other half of boomers are very sweet and knowledgeable, they have actually wisdom.
>military/ LEO’s
FUCKING RETARDED. All I can say. Average IQ of our law enforcement customers has got to be 85. We’re fucked if another country invades us.
God I worked at one of the busiest big box stores in the Houston area, and I’ve had some different experiences than you.
let's hear it anon
One funny time was when I denied some white chick with a gangbanger (black) boyfriend on suHispanicion of a straw sale. She started crying about racism, saying what I was doing was illegal, and called her dad who was a cop (he hung up on her pretty quick). Management got involved and pushed the sale through to not seem racist. Fast forward several months and I’m on one of my final shifts and she comes requesting information on the gun because her now exbf “stole” the gun. Didn’t say anything to her but just a shit eating from the whole time I was getting her the serial number and other info.
lmao, a while back I had a friend who managed a GS in the Atlanta area and I asked about the worst part of his job and he said
>constantly having to go to court to testify about felons trying to buy guns
There was a state police officer who monitored the systems and they were on a first name basis
>ring ring
>hi
>hi anons friend
>oh hi anon-cop, another one?
>yep, dont let them leave
>state police monitoring gun sales
Let me guess, Virginia?
lmao. You got it. I said GA just to add an extra layer of anonymity.
heh. I was skimming, didn't even read that part.
>mfw I live in Va
wtf. Though I’ve never been held at the store or had problems while buying a gun.
>former VA gunstorefag
Yeah VSP is pretty on the ball with that shit. Got a LOT of phone calls where were asked to try and keep some rando in the store for a while.
I almost got shot for going 79 in a 70 while in VA.
>driving to friend's house after starting HBL
>speeding slightly, but other people are passing me
>I match speed with the semi trucks
>state trooper pulls out and turns lights on
>pulls in behind me, I turn my hazards on and start looking for a spot to pull over
>finally pull over, start rolling window down
>window isn't even down by the time he gets up to it, hand on his gun ready to draw
>we make awkward eye contact while the window continues going down, he clearly was expecting a different person when he pulled me over
>he mumbles something about my truck, couldn't really hear him
>walks back to his car and radios something in
>comes back to the window, gets my license, writes me a ticket, and leaves
I think he got a call for a similar vehicle (amber alert maybe?) and mistook me for someone else. I fully believe me being in my OCPs saved my ass that day
>me being in my OCPs saved my ass that day
Nah VA cops don't give a fuck about that, you were just the wrong color to get an asswhoopin. Next time try being black
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/19/1149924822/army-lieutenant-virginia-police-traffic-stop
Yea. That’s Virginia. Shithole due to the proximity to DC.
I lived there for a year, working at a fighter squadron, and that was enough for me, it felt like everyone was always trying to get one over on one another.
No matter where you were, or what you were doing, it’s like everyone was just obsessed with power.
Happy to be out. I’m a regular jackoff again.
Do you ever take just fuck around with the guns when the store is closed?
Maybe… give that whore Sako a little fingering?
>when the store is closed?
Nope, literally all the time. While talking to customers, in between customers, before and after opening.
I swear I've been to where you work and heard that story before.
Another one was this old black dude who would larp as a cop with a vest, bodycam, etc., only catch was he didn’t use guns. Definitely not a criminal/felon I believe, this dude was just obsessed with airguns. He’d talk my ear off for like an hour about different types of airguns, and the different neighborhoods/apartments he’d “patrol”.
Wait you know BOLT FORCE?
>Zero negative experiences with black customers. Shocking, right?
Survivorship bias OP. If they intended to use the gun in a criminal way, they most likely wouldn't buy it legally. In other words, you get normal black people
Not him but no fucking shit dude
Wow Sigmund Freud is posting amongst us
Applies to all races retard
>If they intended to use the gun in a criminal way, they most likely wouldn't buy it legally.
No, they would come into the store to point out the gun they want to their girlfriend, who would buy it easily.
>Zero negative experiences with black customers. Shocking, right?
>(X)
>Be me
>Live in area with high Hispanic population but low (~3%) black population
>Best friend's little bro works in an LGS
>LGS isn't the best, I'm a hascans hasnods guccifag supreme, they don't have much I'm interested in but I try to support them anyways
>They love my dog and my dog loves them so I stop by at least every couple weeks, buy some ammo or whatever
>Even then I've seen every stereotypical nog/gunstore interaction short of them trying to rob the place
>Ayo lemmeseedat muhfugin glawk mane
>Is pointing to a M&P
>Always want "dat beam" meaning a laser sight
>One bought a Holosun IR then wanted to return "cuz it ain't work" he literally could NOT understand the concept of infrared light
>Several have come in with AR pistols or P80 builds they fucked up trying to make them work, never in cases
>Attempted straw purchases constantly
>Always wit dey babaymama
>Always pulling up in Altimas, V6 Chargers, Non-Wrangler Jeep models
>I've overheard the in the parking lot scheming, "OK so aks to see dat Draco pistul den aks how much"
>Friend's bro says store policy is to run background checks on both people if they're a couple but they only enforce it on blacks or methy/junkie looking Hispanics/whites
>Not really LGS related butone guy who works there got his motorcycle stolen out of the parking lot, dude ran from the cops on it and died in a wreck.
I've been working in an LGS in CA for about 8 months now. Not really that surprised by what I've seen. Generally love it because it's small and our owner is based, so we get paid a decent wage but it's definitely hard work because there isn't a lot of us and we are perpetually swarmed with customers.
>Asians
Same experience. Either cool or a bit over-eager. The older ones tend to be dumb and don't listen to any instructions you give them.
>Blacks.
Most have been cool. Couple hood rats throwing chimpouts when they got denied, but very much in the minority. Some talk/act a little ghetto but aren't unsafe per se, and we're happy to do business with them so long as the cash is green and background is clean.
>Hispanics
Tons of them in our area, but they run the complete gamut from professionals to retarded trash. Absolutely true about asking way too many dumb questions and being indecisive as fuck.
>Mideastern
Not too many, but either fairly knowledgeable or complete retard. No in between.
>Indians.
We have had a few. Pretty broad spread from normal to clueless to really egotistical. Only consistent trend is bargain hunting and haggling. Always want the best deal, even if it's a difference of a few cents.
>Boomers.
Absolutely true. About half of them are insufferable husks that I can barely tolerate. Entitled, opinionated, refuse to follow any rules, wrong about virtually everything and above all massive cheapskates.
>Mil/LEO
Most mil have been fairly professional. Cop/ex-cop tend to be the most clueless about laws/rules/safety/prices. We have one guy spend $100 every week or so just to have his Glock and AR cleaned because he doesn't know how, even though we offered to show him so he could do it himself.
>We have one guy spend $100 every week or so just to have his Glock and AR cleaned
Jesus christ.
Bro there are some very wealthy people who frequent my store. Doctors, lawyers, oil industry retirees, etc. they’ll throw around a few grand like it’s nothing. Come back next week and do the same. Shooting is their hobby and they’ll spend the big bucks on it.
I get it, but it's still incredibly retarded. Knowing how to clean your weapon is guns 101. Even if I was a billionaire I'd still be doing that shit myself. It's my gun, I take care of it.
Do you manufacture your own cleaning solvents, oils, brushes, and patches out of materials you harvested from nature yourself, or do you outsource those aspects of gun care to someone else? Why not outsource the application of those cleaning agents to someone who will do a good job quickly? It's an arbitrary line.
This dude doesn't clean his own guns.
Lawn care is one thing, weapon maintenance is completely another.
>This dude doesn't clean his own guns.
I do, but if I were less poor I might not. I guess that's what kids are for so I should probably get on that.
It's a matter of opportunity cost. I was talking to a EM doctor when I was shadowing her, and she broke down her contract. Her base pay is about $250 an hour, and if she does night-time work they throw in an extra $20 per hour. If she goes overtime (over 140 hours a month), she gets an extra $30 an hour on top. So it's not unfeasible that some of these people are making literally $300 an hour.
At that point you have to ask yourself a simple question--is it worth spending $100 for someone else to do something for you that may take you an hour, when 20 minutes of your time is $100. For 1 extra 12 hour shift (EDs usually work in either 8, 10, or 12 hour shifts), that'd be $3,600 in a single night. That buys you a lot of lawn care, garden care, hair care, car maintenance, and gun maintenance that you don't have to do.
Don’t try reasoning with him anon, he’s probably the same type of retard to think you’re not a “real man” if you don’t change your own oil.
Ive been there. I think its a good thing to know HOW to do it, and I know dad taught me how to change brake pads and calipers too. But the second I make more money an hour than it'd cost to pay a mechanic, then I'd be best off paying them.
Not even worth it these days. My car takes synthetic oil and the 5 quarts or whatever it needs is $45 meanwhile just taking it in is only like $55-60.
Yeah, changing oil almost seems to be a loss leader for them, because the cost of the oil + the service is so cheap. Besides that, if I change my own I've got to dispose of the oil and that's a hassle all its own.
>inb4 "not my problem"
Stop renting and burn it in your garage stove to stay comfy.
I remember I used to be able to just dump used oil at auto zone or some shit. They had a tank in the back, they would let you dispose your oil in there. I haven’t done that shit in years so I’m not sure if they still do that.
You can just give it to a guy at the front counter now. Almost all of the auto stores are obligated to take used oil. Might be a state or federal mandate.
Should say it good to know how to do it, but it’s not worth it these days depending on what type of oil your vehicle uses.
That anon is too poor to concieve that some peoples time is more valueable
I'm an ED Doctor and I make less than 80,000 australian dollars per year before tax. Is this woman harvesting organs and selling them on the black market or something?
American docs make far, far more anon. Rural specialists in particular. A brit student and I compared notes, as a resident in my area I'd make 2/3rds of a Internal Med doc's salary in the UK, but in America my salary would quadruple from $55-65 to around 200-250k or more in the States.
*My salary would quadruple or more from around 55-65 as a Family resident (GP) to 200-250k+ as a Family (GP) Attending. She intended to finish medschool in the UK and hop over to join us ASAP. According to her it just didnt seem worth it to be a doc over there when the gov was paying under 100k (adjusting pounds-->USD. Granted, if you break down a residents salary per hour they make minimum wage. But the payoff after is extreme.
But at least you help dudes with floppy dicks get boners anon, you’re doing the Lord’s work.
I mean they're retarded yeah but they've got the money to afford to be that retarded. I'd offer my services as a cleaner for say 100 bucks to wipe down an AR. Don't even have to be that thorough. It's actually kind of a shame it's not more common of a thing, could be a nice side hustle. Free market and all that.
OP here. Good to hear you like the job! & yeah, seems like I live in an area similar to yours except not in Cali.
>Indians being obnoxious bargain hunters
This is why I’m glad I never see them here.
I actually like it because I have permission from the manager to knock 5% off any item for any reason, so I can bait them into a sale. If they're hemming/hawing I give them 5% off and they go for it most of the time.
Now when they come beck the next day to cancel DROS because they found out it's 5$ cheaper somewhere else they get hit with the 20% restocking fee, so at that point they're stuck. If they don't come back after that I don't care. We got em on the one sale either way and if they really want to save a few more pennies I don't really want their business anyway. They can go be someone else's problem.
I wish we had more Asians than Hispanics in this country..
Move to Arizona. Im so fucking tired of mexicans and their disgusting music and culture. Not to mention hearing spanish all the damn time.
>Asians
>Holy shit do Asians love guns.
They go all out. I noticed they like tricked-out ARs and stuff. Fancy stuff. It's all anime for them with the accessories and crazy nonsense.
>blacks
>Zero negative experiences with black customers. Shocking, right?
Not shocking. When I've gone to the range or gone to gun shows in my gun-happy state, I noticed blacks would be super polite -- almost overdoing it in some cases. I think it's because the gun scene (so to speak) is traditionally a white male conservative thing and so they want to put on their best face and be really nice, but also want to relate to us and that's a positive thing. I think they're the black version of white liberals trying to relate with black people and wanting to be their friends and being overly nice. I don't work in a gun store and haven't seen any gangbangers where I'm at, but I'm sure they exist.
I'm talking about adults here too, of course. Not some teenagers or whatever.
>Hispanics.
>Not all are bad, but god damn Hispanics have been consistently the most suHispanicious customer base by far.
Yes. I've noticed some who look like total fucking gangbangers. They need to clean up their act.
my dad has a mossberg 500 exactly like that, down to the ancient relic choate stock
>I noticed blacks would be super polite -- almost overdoing it in some cases. I think it's because the gun scene (so to speak) is traditionally a white male conservative thing and so they want to put on their best face and be really nice
I do this and I’m Hispanic. Judging from this thread, it looks like I need to keep doing it. I can tell the employees think I’m probably just autistic
i'd imagine autistic shoppers are the easiest to deal with, given a sperg's proclivity to adhere to protocol.
I just don’t like making people angry
where are you guys? Here in philly our gun range has 'no draco'/'no sheisties'/'if you smell like pot we're kicking you out' signs everywhere and I doubt it's because of the gentrifying liberals.
If you're the guys with the magnifying glass at the front counter, I'm a member so I think you and I probably speak to each other at least monthly.
Asians where I live have all the cool rifles. I haven't seen anyone else with a non-ar rifle or non-pump shotty
LEO’s
>FUCKING RETARDED. All I can say. Average IQ of our law enforcement customers has got to be 85. We’re fucked if another country invades us.
Most military only know the weapons they've been trained on.. And seriously, the overwhelming majority only shoot those weapons 1 or 2 times per year. Army requires qualification on assigned weapon annually. Most units only shoot for qualification (sending those who fail to make a sufficient score back to the battle-sight zeroing range to repeat the entire process. If you fail the first time, you could get 40/40 the 2nd time through, but you'll only be recorded as "marksman" (lowest passing range), rather than expert (which 37+/40 normally earns).
The guys who DO tend to know weapons better are those who are in the combat arms: infantry and cavalry in particular, because their livelihood revolves around BEING the guy who has to get that rifle to the right place, at the right time, and then use it in the right way. They take an avid interest in not only the army's standard issue weapons, the other stuff issued to "special" units, but also what other armies are carrying (to know what they could be facing).
However, very few of the weapons military personnel come into contact with are available at the typical gun store... pretty much only pistols. And even then, most likely only M-9 Baretta 9mm (hunk of junk compared to the M1911 .45 ACP)
My friends stepbrother was in the Air Force for 4 years. One day he asked to borrow my friend’s .243 for his son during deer season and he gave it to him. He proceeded to return the rifle with a round in the chamber and the safety off.
Free bullet.
Went down the whole list of rapers, robbers, thieves and thugs, oh they're sooo cool. Get to your elders and own kind, takes a huge shit on them.
Found the israelite.
Nah, he's just a shabbos goy. He's been taught to self-deprecate every time he talks about race. It's a script.
>blacks are actually cool people
>I really like all races, but there are a few bad apples in every bunch
>but I must say there are some deep flaws with white people
Hate people like this, and I’m not even white. Every time I watch a stand up show and it’s a white guy making the generic “hehe, us whypipo am I right?” it ruins the entire show for me. Fuck you guys for letting yourselves get cucked like this
NTA but jfc you fags get frazzled easily lmao
OP here. Apparently you tards can’t read because I also shat on latinos and Indians. How does me dabbing on boomers make me le anti white?
Calm the fuck down. This is my real life experience by going outside and interacting with people.
>How does me dabbing on boomers make me le anti white?
Because he's a boomer with no self-awareness
>Get to your elders and own kind, takes a huge shit on them.
1. He also shits on others
2. The elders and "own kind" are the retards that allowed their countries to be overrun with blacks and all the other garbage California is pushing onto everyone everywhere in the world.
I'm white and I do think there's dumber and smarter races (same with violence), but I'm also not dumb enough to then pretend like tons of whites AREN'T just sheeple/traitors. If whites really were so great they wouldn't be so easily controlled and manipulated into letting their countries be invaded by africans and other crappy races. I WANT whites to be better, but I'm not going to pretend we're oh so based and smart and everything.
Go on, call me a israelite, I know you want to.
Im not sure who youre talking to but i wanna call you a israelite
>defending the fucking boomers who sold out your future and are the very fucking reason you're in a multicultural corrupt hellhole while they enjoy their classic cars and McMansions you'll never be able to afford
holy fucking shit you polfags are so goddamn retarded. Imagine simping for "elders" that left nothing for you but overreaching government, a ruined economy, destabilized and degenerate society, and continue to be absolutely fucking insufferable for everyone they interact with.
You fuckers really don't go outside, do you?
You sound like an insufferable person. Glad I don’t do business with you
>blacks
>Zero negative experiences with black customers.
I went to a nog town and nog gun store a few times
>black family run store, met owner at a gun show first
>he had really good deals on XDs when they were changing them to mod 2, $150ish
>walk in, tell him what I want and start doing paperwork
>3 other melanated gentleman at the counter shooting shit
>they include me in the convo, wanna know what I'm buying and where I'm shooting
>2 other melanated gentlemen walk in ask for .40sw ammo
>both buy a box of winchester white box and hassle the owner on why the price is so high
>a noglet teen walks in wanting to buy a glawk
>owner suddenly turns serious and yells at him to get the fuck out
Went back a few times because he usually has bretty good prices. Got used to the chatty guys nearly always being there lol.
>a noglet teen walks in wanting to buy a glawk
>owner suddenly turns serious and yells at him to get the fuck out
elaborate more please
I’m Asian but everyone assumes Mexican
Asians know better than just bullshit with the counter guy at the gun store
He doesn’t want to hear out bullshit we just do it research online and ignore any upswell bullshit foxalien or boomer safari land bullshit you’re trying to unload on idiots
I too used to work at a gun store. Good luck
Thanks /k/ommrade. Only been at it for a few months. Hope to gtfo when I finish my degree soon.
When do you get shipments of crab legs? My LGS gets in Monday, but I can't go visit them and their range until Wedneday so I don't get them at the freshest.
The crab legs are all we eat on mondays now that caviar is harder to come by. The in house butler takes care of the logistics though.
Yes but it’s all good.
Sorry to hear that bro
The jaded guy who realized that it’s just retail with the added aspect of being surrounded by morons with guns. Also I hate boomers more now. I still try to do my best tho.
Depends on the store. Probably like $150ish. Maybe more maybe less.
Yeah I can give you 23 kisses anon
Alone on a Friday night?
Which gun store employee stereotype are you?
What’s the profit margin for the store on a g19?
Can you get me a ks-23?
Crunchy or creamy?
Peanutbutter? Crunchy for sandwich, creamy on anything else.
Not often at all. Had my first denial very recently.
>2 young Latino dudes, could barely speak English.
>had to walk them through the 4473 form like they were little babbies
>acted like hardened criminals
>not the bombastic type, the monotone, emotionless cold type
>ran the dudes info
>instant denial
>remember that the only words he immediately seemed to understand on the 4473 was “convicted felon”
Lmao
Yeah we had a 19 year old kid trying to get an SBR. Apparently it’s technically legal somehow but we just told him to call the ATF field office to make sure. We’re not about to give unlicensed legal advice to a kid who wants an SBR.
>>not the bombastic type, the monotone, emotionless cold type
pls tell more about how did they behave?
Why, so you can larp as a gangbanger instead of Ryan Gosling?
yes. also not much exp with real criminals, just curious (to know what to look for).
Probably like this.
>menacing music plays in the background
>Crunchy for sandwich, creamy on anything else.
My nigguh
imagine denying Lalo
How often do you get denials?
Usually not surprised based on how the person looks/acts?
i saw someone come in a gun store one time to do a 4437 and transfer, they had a 11.5 or some shit AR with a stock on it and the employee was trying to explain to them why it's an sbr and why it's illegal and they really weren't getting it
eventually he just told them to leave the store
Seen something similar. I was standing in line and a dude whipped out an SBR with a foregrip (this was prior to the injunction). Clerk was like putitbackputitbackputitback
We had a cop walk in with a PTR 9 pistol and a collapsing stock, while we were having an ATF audit. I think they thought it was a department gun, which is probably the only reason he didn't get grilled by the agents.
You saw, you didn’t seen
>I saw
>I've seen
Both would be valid.
He didn’t start with “I”, therefore seen is not correct. Get a basic grasp on English and everyone around you won’t look at you like you’re a nagger.
>He didn’t start with “I”
>what are implied subjects
Grammar opinions discarded, nagger.
Learn English, mutt
no u
>"Learn English"
>Can't into implied subject
Non-native speaker detected, YOU learn English, you denisovanoid ching-chong.
yall got any clipz fo a nine?
I actually love those phone calls. It’s like a beloved /k/ meme come to life for me. I always tell my coworker afterwards and we have a good chuckle. Those idiots are usually nice people tho.
Most annoying customer question(s). Thank you. I'm tryin' hard to not be THAT customer. You're welcome.
Ok based. But honestly the biggest problem I have is
>people asking for an accessory or about the compatibility of an accessory with their gun- without knowing the exact make and model of their firearm. I cannot help you with technical questions about a gun you know little about that’s sitting at your house.
Also getting calls from impatient dudes wanting to know if their FFL transfers have arrived yet or if “we have all the proper info” from the sellers. It’s like dude, cut the BS. We’ll call you when it gets here. We don’t want a bunch of random ass FFL guns crowing out vault.
>Also getting calls from impatient dudes wanting to know if their FFL transfers have arrived yet or if “we have all the proper info” from the sellers. It’s like dude, cut the BS. We’ll call you when it gets here.
I do that... Im sorry okay.
All good bro. I’m rather impatient myself. Just know we want to get it to you ASAP.
Had multiple instances of old ladies being irritated we didn’t have “revolver” ammo.
How can’t you figure this out? You ask them how many shots their gun holds, when they say five you sell them a box of 38spl, if they say six you sell them a box of 38spl. The answer is 38 special how spastic are you?
32-20, 38 colt, 38 S&W, 32 S&W, 44 special, 45 long colt, etc.
Who cares what they actually have? They won’t shoot it anyway and you make a sale. I understand there are plenty of rounds usually used in a revolver but that doesn’t make you any less of a spastic.
If he has a shred of ethics in his body, he won't make a sale to an old lady who knows very little about her own firearm. You shouldn't shoot calibers that your gun isn't chambered for, and how fucked up would it be if her gun blows up because she was sold the wrong ammunition? Naturally, he won't make that sale, even though the blame should be entirely on her ignorance of her own weapon.
>Who cares what they actually have? They won’t shoot it anyway and you make a sale. I understand there are plenty of rounds usually used in a revolver but that doesn’t make you any less of a spastic.
.38spl is the ranch dressing of revolver food. If the customer doesn't specify, that's what they get
Old people in particular have lots of obsolete obscure calibers, not gonna sell an elderly lady a $35 box of ammo she can’t return that might not even work.
I've only been shot at once, which is pretty good I guess. Guns coming from outside must be checked by an employee, otherwise we don't care about flagging with guns from behind the counter. We press check every gun before handing it to a customer anyways. I'm mostly in the back nowadays, doing piddly bullshit like cleanings, parts installs, AR builds, and scope mounts. I have a "it's unloaded Bro" jar back there, right next to my "it's fucked mate" jar.
Lol. I feel for you. A LGS gunsmiths/armorers job is under appreciated. God bless
I like having a bunch of regulars that come by just to bullshit. A number of them will slip me a 20 here and there since I don't usually charge them for my time, just for parts. Although we will install shit for free if you buy the shit from us anyways.
>pic - It's fucked mate
We can do 5% off for anybody if it will make a sale, but if you're in all the time buying shit you get better discounts. Usually that's 20% over cost, or 15 if we really like them. Our normal margin is about 25% on new guns and optics, and 40% on used or parts/ammo.
OP here. We do the 5% thing too.
For all the non gun store worker plebs in this thread- next time you’re at a gun store see if they can knock off 5%. Apparently it’s common practice
I guess I'll post some of my fucked up guns. This one was a noveske MG that was at a dead air shoot. Allegedly a 300 blk found it's way into the middle of a random magazine.
You gotta be at least pleasant to talk to, otherwise one of those salesmen out front will fuck you with no lube. Don't just ask for a discount outright.
Don't shoot 260 out of a 25-06
This was a suicide gun I got to clean up. Surprisingly the lady didn't want to sell it afterwards
Always grease your chokes. If you haven't taken them out recently, do it and lube it
This henry came in on transfer, straight from Henry, during Covid. As soon as the customer picked it up, the stock snapped in half.
I should be truthful about that one, I got that pic from my old coworker that moved to Iowa.
I fixed this one first hand tho, and old shrubmaster carbon 15
i have the exact same shit red-dot sitting here in my desk lol
that wood's grain flow looks very much not ideal for a stock.
>The machine spirit YEARNS to become a Mare's Leg
what grease is best for chokes, and anything different for threading?
Lmao. When I bought my Baikal MP-45 new, it had one factory choke so stuck that it took me and my dad both twisting it out with a contraption we made. In the end the choke and the barrel were too hot to touch from all the friction in the threads.
Lmao this actually reminds me.
>2 months ago
>dude tries to use 300blk through a 5.56 barrel AR
>blows up
>dude leaves
>another dude comes in with a 5.56 AR after him, same firing lane
>finds an unforced 300blk round on the floor, left by the other dude
>loads it in his magazine, blows his gun up too
who the fuck loads ammo they find on the floor? I don't even bother to pick it up if I literally just dropped it.
You must be really fat.
I know a guy who does that. He fills old ammo boxes with found-at-range ammo. He scares me a little because he has the money and ammo stockpile to not have to do that. I pick them up and take them home but MARK them and keep them for reference. I'll probably get enough of them to get an ammo display one day, all unfired.
KEK that’s some Vietnam level booby trapping dropped weapons level shit.
retard brain is a powerful thing
True, if you’re friendly and easy to work with then we’re more likely to give a discount. If you buy other shit that’s more of a guarantee you’ll get a discount. But the general rule of thumb is- if what you’re buying isn’t in “high demand”, we’ll give you a discount almost 100% of the time. Example:
>sig p365 macro
High demand. We sell a lot of them. Likely no discount if that’s all you’re buying.
>1911, .22lr pistols, revolvers, less “mainstream” guns, etc.
We’ll most likely give you a discount just to get them off the shelf.
>Allegedly a 300 blk found it's way into the middle of a random magazine.
sabotage, MACV SOG style
As if by the book, right?
The fuck happened to that choke?
Is that .357 rat shot?
I asked if he tried to shoot a slug, he swore up and down only birdshot, as it was a duck/dove gun. The barrel ended up looking a bit bulged right there too.
And yeah, rat shot
Revolvers rotate the cylinder as they fire, and the entire lock work was frozen solid. Not to mention rat shot doesn't have much recoil anyways.
Those are built in cabinets, all our cabinets and display cases were built as the owner is friends with a cabinet maker and everybody scratches each other's backs.
To finish that story, a guy brought in a XD .40 to get sights swapped and "I pulled the mag out in the truck bro." I had been working there about a week by then, and I was mopping on the opposite side of that wall. Dude started fumbling with the gun, trying to take the slide off and failing, when it fired. I came around the corner with my gun drawn and him and the newer than me guy were standing there dumbstruck. We found pic related still spinning on the ground a few seconds later, I freaked out a bit when I saw where it ricochet'd. If it had been an inch to the right, it wouldn't have bounced off the metal stud in the wall and it would've burst through the drywall to come to a stop in my gut. Afterwards I thought it was pretty funny that both him and I were carrying winchester Ranger-Ts, so we both almost caught a nu-black talon.
Is that another skin table?8pt2va
That's just old formica
lmao, my parents have the same furniture like those drawers in the back. several thousand miles away from the USA though.
IIRC I saw the "it's unloaded bro" jar. Want to see the "it's fucked mate" jar.
>it’s unloaded bro jar
I did something like this for myself. After a day at the range I left an empty shell in my shotgun. I had on round left so shot it. Then because I knew it was only one round, I didn’t pump it for another. Got home and later that day I pumped it before putting it away for giggles. My butthole puckered so hard hard when a shell came out. Even though there was no danger the thought that something was inside and I didn’t know it scared the shit out of me. I still keep that shell in my key bowl on my nightstand.
How does it feel to sell death?
i don't think he'd know, ask a liquor store / smoke shop
Ask a McDicks worker
Unironically it feels good. People piss me off, I pray to the Dark Gods whatever I'm serving them is the meal that causes their heart attack. I put in extra effort, sometimes I'll even add another patty too. I want them to come back. I want them here every day of the week, twice a day, and thrice on Sundays. I'm killing them. Slowly. And I take great pleasure in that. Best part is when the ham planets have ham moons with them. You want 10 McChickens? Gladly. Extra mayo? Have some more on the side too, friend. Oh, and you demand I hurry up with your small coke? Take a large. Free of charge. Have a good day, ma'am :).
You got some demons, Anon. You should get out of retail. Find something less toxic for your mindset.
>t. picrel
Former LGS employee here. It feels good.
Really good. I'm sure you got pfizered a lot.
Former gunstorefag here, it was the best feeling in the world. My LGS even had a robbery in the parking lot.
Ask someone at the DMV, people get robbed of years of their life there.
The last two times I was at the DMV I decided to pay attention to what was causing the most delays while waiting for my number to be called. Turns out it’s the retards who go to the DMV for service who slow everything down, not the DMV employees.
>Turns out it’s the retards who go to the DMV for service who slow everything down, not the DMV employees.
Pretty much the same as any post office.
I try and call the DMV every time before I go to double check what I read on the state website for required forms, and they never answer. Usually the online info is correct, but I have been sent back once for two forms of mail which was a pain in the ass.
In general do you like it? Do you have customers that make you go "holy shit a retard like you is allowed to buy guns?". Reletive to other sales jobs do you find the clientele easier to work with?
Does this anon's fuming come off as familiar in any way?
The part about straw purchases is absolutely true.
Which reminds me, don't buy a .50 BMG in Texas right now unless you want to talk with an ATF agent. They are literally visiting every person that does to make sure the gun isn't going to the cartel. They did a sting at our store because someone was getting a OOW semiauto M2 transferred through us. He was a retarded Mexican, so I don't doubt it was actually intended for a cartel, but they wanted 4473s on everybody that bought a .50 through us and all the stores around us.
Are they allowed to do that?
are the ATF allowed to make and change laws? no, but they do it anyways. They always get away with it until the supreme court decides to do something about it.
Or you could, you know, say no.
Yes, they are allowed to request 4473s at any time for any reason, and as a FFL you are required to submit them within 24 hours of notification to keep your licensure.
Then they revoke your FFL and you're out of business. The anon you're responding to is retarded, and not me who posted about 50 BMGs. It's not a law, they aren't breaking any laws, nor creating any. They aren't going around arresting random .50 BMG owners for no reason, but that doesn't mean they can't hassle you.
I'll even add to that, during the sting they did at our store, they didn't even arrest the guy. They confiscated the OOW .50 and also the spear lt he brought in at the same time to get a muzzle brake installed (he might eventually get that back since it was actually his), but he walked away and drove home after they were done. There were other signs that it was a straw purchase that got the ATFs attention, the OOW was paid for by a completely different person, who was probably already under surveillance.
His entire rant is 100% accurate to my recollections of working at a gun store. Somewhere around the time you stop flinching when a customer points a gun directly at your chest is when you start thinking maybe gun laws aren't the worst thing in the world.
gun laws are never worth it
if they personally inconvenience me they shouldn't exist simple as
>Somewhere around the time you stop flinching when a customer points a gun directly at your chest is when you start thinking maybe gun laws aren't the worst thing in the world.
I kinda agree and disagree about this. On one hand, people ARE retarded, tho in large part because of seeing too many shitty media and not taking any time to learn about the real thing. On the other, shitting on the US constitution any more just feels sad.
In countries without the 2A, you can try to come up with sensible gun laws (e.g. age requirements, proof you've never been convicted of anything, MAYYYYBEEE some basic psychological testing (again, maybe)), but in America you can either break the constitution (again) and introduce some retarded law written by people who never held a gun in their life or, well
>Somewhere around the time you stop flinching when a customer points a gun directly at your chest is when you start thinking maybe gun laws aren't the worst thing in the world.
There's no law that could prevent retardation short of implimenting strict totalitarian education and iq-based eugenics programs. Hell, maybe if there werent gun laws and smoothbrains could just buy pre-loaded hi points out of vending machines they'd bother gun store employees less.
Some of the worst customers I dealt with in terms of safety as well as general assholery were boomers who had a tendency to espouse the desire for "reasonable gun control" cuck shit, ironically.
>There's no law that could prevent retardation short of implimenting strict totalitarian education and iq-based eugenics programs.
>Some of the worst customers I dealt with in terms of safety as well as general assholery were boomers who had a tendency to espouse the desire for "reasonable gun control" cuck shit, ironically.
In my experience, a disturbing number of anti-gun liberals' rationale is "because if I had a gun I know I would [commit an unhinged atrocity] whenever someone [caused a minor disagreement, misunderstanding, or inconvenience]." Gun control seems to be advocated by the people who need it most.
Those aren't the ones I'm talking about, the ones you see at the gun shop are all retarded fuck-you-got-mine boomers that don't like youngins (and browns, but they're too cowardly to admit that openly) being armed, because it ruins the safety blanket and power fantasy their condition 3 1911 provides them. Once you notice it a lot of things start making sense. They want to be the badass gunslinger like in their spaghetti westerns but they don't want to train, so seeing young guys getting ARs and modern pistols and actually training for gunfights and being genuinely interested in firearms and shooting causes them to absolutely shid their pants. They hate Hi Points and Taurus not because they're shitty guns, but because they allow a zoomer mcwagie to have the same firepower they have. There's also no consistency in what level of gun control they want, it's whatever makes sure they have what they want and nobody else.
Boomer buys an AR?
>"Well it's all good fun, something something home defense blah blah thinly vieled murder fantasy heh heh, i'm a good ol boy. muh librulz."
Literally anyone else buys an AR?
>"WHUDDUH YA NEED THAT FOR?! WHUTZE PLANNIN TA DO WITH DAT THING? JUST AINT RIGHT..."
it's all gun control for thee and not for me. Most of them don't even like guns or shooting, they like the symbolic act of owning them. God I fucking hate them.
this
Damn that’s accurate. It really is just a dislike of youngins and gayekeeing a hobby they believe they invented. They also don’t like seeing first time gun owners going straight to modern rifles and pistols instead of going through the long and expensive path they took. They literally want newbies to buy .22s and expensive bolt action rifles, learn to shoot for years, then “earn” modern weapons.
PvE vs PvP, sounds like they need to git gud
>Somewhere around the time you stop flinching when a customer points a gun directly at your chest is when you start thinking maybe gun laws aren't the worst thing in the world.
Wait until you realize our rules are even bigger idiots.
It's not if idiots should be allowed guns, it's who's doing the allowing that's a bigger issue.
If you buy a used gun from a customer, how much do you pay them below the value that you expect to get from the gun when you sell it forward? What variables go into that calculation?
Depends on how destitute they look
We look for about 60% of wholesale value, but we're also cheap bastards and we have a (thankfully small) corporate structure to answer to. For a gun that's still available, we take our cost on a new one, and chop off 40%. If it's something out of production, we search gunbroker and the blue book for an average current selling price, and 40% off that. Condition is important too, we don't buy anything broken or with a fucked up finish unless it's something one of the employees or a good, regular customer wants. Scratches and shit are normal wear, but I'm not buying grandad's old Saturday night special with no finish left. It has to look good on the shelf.
We always tell people they are better off selling to someone third party if they want the most they can get out of it. There's a gun show almost every other weekend around here, so it's not super difficult to sell.
Thanks for the info. That's around what I expected.
can I shot 45 with my 9mm?
what is your ppr on 5.56?
How much do you charge for transfers? A number of places started gouging hard during the pandemic.
>places started gouging hard during the pandemic
No kidding, LGS used to be $15 transfer for any gun, now it's $70 for new firearms and $7 for used. Cheapest I've found for new firearms locally is $40, though I don't even really have the choice since everything new I want is banned as an assault weapon thanks to the state's new AWB. Fuck IL, flat land shithole of a state.
>$40 transfers
I feel bad for you. Try and find better FFLs. My choice is $15-25 depending on where.
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=772301#
wow im surprised to see anons in my area. how old is that map?
According to a quick search as I don't know off the top of my head, at least 2013-ish. I was surprised to see my small range on the map. Either that means someone screwed around in google maps/earth searching for "shooting range" in various locations in my county, uploading whatever they found, or that means someone here also belongs to my local range...
I think I posted most of my gunstore stories before, and a bunch of them got capped, but highlights were:
>the customer who wanted to know if the 38SPL or the 45ACP would work in his 9mm
>the guy who wanted "Glock" ammo and refused to tell me which caliber his Glock was in
>the time a guy bought three different guns and changed his mind after the 4473 was run each time
>all the expired driver's licenses I saw
>the guy who wanted a background check run on him before buying the gun
>the dozens upon dozens of customers who walked in reeking of weed and asked "can i see dat ayy arr pee mane?"
>the guy who wanted "Glock" ammo and refused to tell me which caliber his Glock was in
>the guy who wanted a background check run on him before buying the gun
>the guy who wanted a background check run on him before buying the gun
Lmao this would happen so often to me working at a big box store in a high traffic ghetto area.
>the guy who wanted a background check run on him before buying the gun
Was he trying to make sure he wasn't going to get in trouble for being a prohibited person buying a gun?
I think he was just hoping the government had forgotten he was a felon or something
Tbh I had similar curiosities when I first stepped into gun stores. I shot plenty of guns growing up but didn’t know anything about laws and policies. So hearing that you had to do a “background check” like on TV was super interesting and intimidating. Also assumed they could just type your name in the computer and pull up a profile or something and tell you if you qualify. Luckily didn’t actually ask and embarrass myself. I did see some other noob ask that exact question and get a very tired and annoyed answer from the employee.
Yeah we can’t see anything related to your criminal history, we simply get a PROCEED, DELAY, or DENY.
Yeah I got that now. But people coming into shops totally fresh just hear background check and imagine you pulling up a full report or something.
>what noob lol look at this homosexual guys lmao
This is why I don't interact with gun store employees beyond saying "Can I hold that one please" and "Thanks, I think I'm gonna order this online"
>t. the noob
this
With how condescending and impatient LGS employees are, it’s no wonder the gun hobby is dying. No one wants to bother with their autistic gatekeeping anymore and, frankly, I don’t blame them
>the gun hobby is dying
There are more gun owners and more guns in private hands today than at any other time in history
>There are more gun owners and more guns in private hands today than at any other time in history
in absolute or relative numbers? Because it only matters if the relative numbers are high
>Because it only matters if the relative numbers are high
Anon, do you understand what a "force multiplier" is?
A300 ultima patrol or 940 tactical? Which is a more solid choice?
The 940s I’ve seen felt like floppy, rattle traps, I’ve shot several of Beretta’s semi’s and they’re all way nice.
I moonlighted at the local Academy Sports and Outdoors’ gun counter while I was a TA in grad school. I missed colloquiums and didn’t give a fuck I was making that just-above minimum wage pay selling steel.
>ask gun store employee a question already knowing the answer
>he confidently gets it wrong
just say "I don't know" man cmon
whats the most common gun you see women, twinks, and the elderly purchasing?
teal, pink, and purple SCCYs unironically. They fucking love those pieces of shit. Ruger EC9s in similar colors sell well to those demographics too. I dont fucking get it, both guns have atrocious triggers and seem hard for them to rack the slide, but i guess pretty colors offsets usability for them.
Anyone ever tried robbing the place, if yes what happened to them?
Not robbing, burglarized though. Broke in at about 330 AM and were only in the store for 5 minutes. Took them 45 minutes to get through the gates and front door though. Broke all our top glass and took a bunch of pistols, a few ARs, and a PSL. Thankfully they left the used cabinet alone. New guns are replaceable, I can't replace used guns. Last we had heard they were still looking for the 3 guys and a driver. Supposedly a few pistols have been recovered, but somewhere there is a gangbanger with a Hudson H9.
Is this shoot straight in WPB Florida or does every gun store look exactly the same
not a question but sorry for askin' so many dumbass questions I wasn't raised right.
If you are still here OP, what's the most popular guns overall?
Looking for deals on cabelas and found this
So basically they thought he was straw-buying?
>If whites really were so great they wouldn't be so easily controlled and manipulated
Getting kinda /misc/ here, but you took the words out of my mouth before I could say them. The parasites are gonna do their thing no matter what, so at some point you have to grow a damn immune system against parasites. Or not, and then you get what you fucking deserve.
>So basically they thought he was straw-buying?
idk he probably was being sketchy af and they denied him for whatever reason.
Is it acceptable to look through the reticle at the floor, hand on grip & back stock
>work at a gun store. AMA
What gun are all the israelites buying right now since Israel started bombing hospitals and everyone hates them publicly, making US israelites feel insecure?
Do you sell guns?
How often are blank women straw purchasing for felons? I’ve seen two gun purchases rejected for this in this year just as a customer
You guys carry a Walther Q4 SF?
Guy at my lgs told me and another customer that guns aren't where they make their money. Ammo and accessories are their big ticket items. Sounds like a load of garbage to me, but it there any truth to it?
Average margins are only about 20-25% on new guns at brick and mortar stores. Online stores are able to get away with about 10% over cost since they don't have as many employees to pay. We get 40% on used guns and parts, so yeah, parts and ammo are more profit.
100% this. margins on handguns are even worse, sometimes as low as 5%
I think it would depend on the customers the store expects to sell to
I worked at a restaurant that made more money on Alcohol sales than the food
Guns have a lot more competition since people aren't buying them on a whim like ammo or ear pro
My 1 man local LGS says he doesn't make a ton on new firearms and will often tell me to just buy what I found on gun.deals because he can't match it with his distributor
Every FFL I've had do a transfer takes a million years to tell me that it's the gun has come through or that my paperwork cleared.
Is it this fucking hard to get someone to reach out or are they being lazy dicks on purpose
Home FFL or store? Because home FFLs that just do transfers are usually pretty good.
Home FFL, but apparently he gets a lot of business cause his gunsmithing is pretty good
Lmao yeah I called the moment I got the delivery notification. To be fair though, I've had issues before with Cabela's taking 2 weeks to deliver a gun and another FFL that just didn't realize my gun came in.
I'm guessing since he's got like 2 workers at most so I guess I can wait another couple days for a call.
Or just call to confirm delivery. That's not so bad. Say you're expecting a box from so and so, and you want to make sure it was delivered correctly. We will occasionally have boxes deliver to our corporate headquarters (thankfully it's only two buildings away) and we will have mini-heart attacks when we can't find the shit at first. I was mostly bitching about the people that just show up right after delivery, expecting to pick it up right then.
The gun has to be entered into the gunbook before it can be transferred. Depending on the store, it may only be the manager that can enter it, and if he's busy with other shit it may take a while before he gets in the back to receive inventory. There's nothing more annoying than people coming in for transfers because they got a notification of delivery. Yeah, your shitty canik is here, it's still sitting in the back waiting with the other 20 transfers and 10 boxes of our inventory orders. NICS responses just require someone to check it every so often. Also keep track of your Brady date if you consistently get delayed, they may not remember to call you back to remind you.
fastbounding shit is not hard and honestly if the gun is in the store at all it should be fastbound in that day
if the customer is there just book his gun in so he can take his property and leave. you can bound in the gun as he fills out the 4473.
no wonder regular people hate gun buying experience
>I work at a gun store. AMA
Yeah, can I get uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
I was looking at a handgun and the sales man was like “hey let’s keep that gun pointed at me okay”
Because I had it pointed at the wall where nobody was
yeah uhhhhh can I get a uhhhhhh box of .30-06 and a uhhhhh VP9 and how about a uhhhhhh whatever weird milsurp pistol you have in the cabinet thanks that'll do it
not OP but assistant manager at a LGS and have quite a few stories at this point
>super young looking Balkan kid comes in
>"what's the cheapest gun you have?"
>is cool, not everyone is made of money
>"we're selling these SCCY handguns for $100 a piece. they're definitely not great, but if you just want something to throw in a cupboard somewhere, you can take it home for a bill
>doesn't say anything, just nods
>pulls out his phone, starts swiping on it
>"do you have a..... "Glock four three x?"
>you mean the 43X?
>"yeah that one"
>this goes on for some time as he continues to ask if we have guns he's clearly reading off his phone
>eventually he settles on a Glock 17 Gen 5
>at this point I'm pretty apprehensive but if he passes the NICS check whatever.
>tell him I just need his drivers license and a PTC or PTP
>gives me his drivers license
>18
>doesn't even know what a permit to carry is
>"sorry, you have to be 21 to purchase a handgun from an FFL"
>"ah alright"
>"so whats the smallest shotgun you have?"
>lol wut
>"smallest or cheapest?"
>"smallest"
>show him a Mossberg Maverick 88
>he looks at it for about 3 seconds
>"i'll take it"
>"alright, just gotta have you do a 4473"
>"whats that?"
>bro
>explain how background checks work
>"is there any way i can get it without one?"
>100% convinced it's a gang related straw purchase at this point.
>finally get him to agree to do a 4473
>e-form won't let him go to the next page
>he has non-citizen checked
>"are you a U.S citizen?"
>he is not a U.S citizen
>he is a Bulgarian
>tell him I can't help him, and I won't sell him anything
fast forward a week
>local PD shows up with a picture of the kid asking if he was at our store
>he (somehow) had a legit SSN, as a non-citizen
>went to the local big box store, bought a Maverick 88 with a pistol grip (got proceeded immediately cause there was no record of him in the system)
>went home and blew his head off with it
>they're still waiting on the dental records
that took an unexpected turn
Shit thats not the ending i expected
...Huh. Why'd he want to pay for a Glock when he was just going to KYS himself, I wonder?
>he (somehow) had a legit SSN, as a non-citizen
Ah yes, somehow...
Can permanent residents not own guns?
They can and non PRs can too if they have some form of govt issued supplemental information (hunting license is most common) in conjunction with their I95.
they can, but stores are under no obligation to sell them one
what these guys said
but with the way he was acting it seemed pretty clear to me that this wasnt a case of a non-citizen who had all his ducks in a row and just wanted to get into the hobby
this part still perplexes me
Finally something I know about. My brother in law is a permanent resident from South America. Been here over a decade and recently became old enough to buy guns. Bought a heritage .22 and PSAR-15. Both online and transferred through my local hole in the wall shop. All went well apparently, they barely blinked at his paperwork.
Question related to this
What is the most memorable customer that you had to turn down a gun to because they were obviously not all there or legit?
Politicians think red flag laws are the answer when I think our sellers should have enough common sense to filter out retards
Problem is those common sense judgement calls will end up creating "discriminatory patterns" the ones pushing for gun control don't want to admit are based in reality so it has to be guns for everybody, even the retards.
Not quite the same, but I had a blind guy come in to take a CCW class. He actually did pretty well considering he needed an assistant to guide him into the building.
i really dont end up having to exercise a lot of personal discretion. the only people that get denied are usually people who have a DUI from 4 years ago they just have to straighten out with the sheriffs office. bulgarian kid was def the most memorable. rip my nigga stanimir
Fuckin hell that ending. Is the gun for sale cheap now? Asking for a friend.
another time
>hanging out in back waiting for customers
>phone starts ringing
>pick it up
>"yes hello do you have any glock drum magazines?"
>"yeah we've got a few on the shelf"
>"excellent, i'll be in shortly"
>30 minutes later or so
>early 2000s audi r8 in showroom condition comes flying down the street doing like 20 over (we have a bunch of big windows and the shops right on main)
>car accelerates into a parking space at like 30 miles an hour
>no one comes out for like 5 minutes
>finally, 2 young black guys get out
>one of them is wearing a nike tech fleece with sweatpants and white hi-tops. other one is wearing a basketball jersey and shorts
>herewegoagain.jpg
>guys come in, make a beeline for the magazines
>guy in the tech fleece grabs a glock promag drum
>they walk up to the counter and i start checking them out
>"you have the glock 17 right?" (checking to make sure so he doesnt come back and complain about it not fitting)
>"thats the one" the guy says cheerfully
>he continues
>"i've got the glock 17C gen 3. the C actually stands for compensated. i love how the gun feels, but the trigger leaves something to be desired. i believe i'd like to make an upgrade sometime in the near future, which i'm sure would improve my accuracy"
>glance over my shoulder to verify john quiñones is not standing behind me
>he isn't
>ask the guy if he would like a receipt
>"oh please, if it wouldn't be too much trouble" he replies, as the machine is already automatically printing his receipt
>they leave
>exit the parking lot at mach 5
interaction made me less racist im ngl
kek, gun autism really does transcend race. You either have it or you don't
I noticed this at my armored truck job years ago, worked with armed noggs in a bad neighborhood and noticed a rare few would fall into becoming gun autistic to the point of being indistinguishable from one of us. Funny because to the other 99% that pistol mind as well have been a magical staff in terms of basic understanding and proficiency.
Before anything else, we are all boys.
more recently
>at shop, j chilling
>trust fund autist and shop regular comes in
>always wearing crocs or dress shoes with cargo shorts and a t-shirt, regardless of weather, season, or time of day
>constantly asking us about getting ahold of obscure soviet calibers
>he tells me he just got a SCAR and he wants to put a red dot magnifier setup on it, asks if he can go out to the car and get it
>yeah ofc bro
>comes back in and sets case on the counter, barrel end toward me
>i'm tall, so the end of the case (and hence, the barrel) is like 2 and a half inches from my cock
>he unzips the case and folds it open
>glance down, notice theres a magazine in the gun and the bolt is closed
>safety is also off
>lemmeclearthat.png
>pick up the gun, drop the mag
>it's loaded
>rack the charging handle
>round flies out and hits the optics cabinet
not a homosexual redditor so i didn't kick him out or yell at him or anything, just asked that he makes sure it doesn't happen again. still a little close for comfort
asking us about getting ahold of obscure soviet calibers
/msg/ on suicide watch
Why do blue states suck so much cock and balls? Is it the fag genes? I want to buy Gun powder and primers online and they wont let me.
Do you do free transfers? Why would I even bother coming in here?
>work at gun store
>sell dude a turkshit monastor 12 gauge 870 clone new for $140
>guy brings gun in complaining it wont go into battery and 12 gauge shells wont fit all way
>inspect gun
>mfw i find a 16 gauge shell seated partially down barrel
i hate the general public
Where do you guys get most of your inventory? I'm opening one in the midwest soon and trying to figure everything out. I understand about being direct distributors from brands but I'd love to hear how you guys keep your inventory of parts and ammo and other stuff stocked.
I worked as a gunsmith for the largest gun store in my state and I still have nightmares about that fucking place. People brought in the worst shit, I probably have a story for every single type of gun ever made outside of some oddballs. It was fun to see the cool shit but good god dealing with the worst retards imaginable and fixing other gunsmiths major mistakes was too much.
Story time. Oh btw do you recommend using gun cleaner oil on barrels? Pic kinda related is my bolt after shooting chinky stinky and I got some carbon on my barrel.
When in doubt, ballistol. I've had great luck using it after shooting awful corrosive surplus. You'll have to get used to the smell. Perfume afterwards with G96 gun oil for that sweet scented candle smell.
Speaking of barrels,
>Guy dropped off a nice 8mm Gasser revolver
>Says it was way too innacurate and the barrel must be shot out
>Brought an extra "new" barrel he bought that he said the bullets are noticeably tighter in when he does a muzzle check
>Gets checked in to work on
>Start working on it later
>Do muzzle check with a a 8mm Gasser projectile seems fine, bore is great, dont understand where he is coming from. Test fired fine without any accuracy issues
>Muzzle check on the "new" barrel
>Incredibly tight, like trying to put a .380 in a .32
>look inside barrel
>literally only one land of rifling on the "new" barrel is visible, so corroded and shit that its basically a squeezebore with pits visible up and down the only land
>call guy and tell him the "new" barrel is basically useless
>adamant that the "new" barrel is tighter and better
>okay
>coworker is like "yeah he's a retard but he pays us for it"
>decide I am not going to make this gun worse in every way and just let my coworker do it
Stuff like this is why I left and never looked back.
Kek thanks gunsmith bro
No problem, I'll give advice if you want as well. Here's another one I will never forget.
>Guy calls and says he has a Krag sporter he's been working on and he brought it to a gunsmith to install the front sight
>After he installed the front sight he can't take the gun apart now
>What
>Guy brings the krag in
>Beautifully done krag sporter, its a full length mannlicher stock, good wood, front band is original and held captive by the sight
>wait
>front band is held captive by the sight
>previous gunsmith installed the stock, installed the front band, and soldered on the front sight IN BETWEEN the arches of the front band
>you can now no longer move the front band forwaed and thus you can not remove the stock
>stare at for like 5 minutes with the customer, dude is just as dumbfounded as I am
>we are both horrified of fucking up the wood
>fuck it we ball, I am going to get this front sight off
>pray that whoever did this also sucked at silver soldering
>sit there for a few minutes with one of those shitty gas station butane torches
>see something bubble
>wack the sight off into the wall with my mallet
>dude sucked at silver soldering, thank god
>customer satisfied
Gunsmiths are gunsmiths worst nightmares.
Captcha: ASSWR2
Taking this chance to ask someone experienced a gun question. My PSA AR upper came in the other day. But the front ring plate that holds in the drop in handguards is fucking triangular instead of round. So I have to keep the basic ass handguards in or go through the pain of removing the whole front sight post. Is it even worth going through the process of switching it out? I have an extra round plate to spare but it seems like a lot of work for a $100 upper.
I'm fairly sure midwest industries makes a triangular quad rail. I'm fairly sure because I put one on mine after having the same internal monologue only for a week later the free floats came back in stock. Search for a two piece quad rail and you'll do fine. Be aware, it's a tight fit.
I've always had interest in working at an LGS but I know for a fact that my current job wouldn't allow me to work part time at one and the LGS would not want me around because of my current job
What do you do?
I work a public job
Local level
everyone has worked at a gunstore, fuck this thread
I've never bought a firearm online before, if I have one sent to an FFL do I have to notify them first before I have it sent there or can I just have it sent there and not bother notifying them?
I've only bought guns online and sent them to a handful of different local ranges.
You don't need to call and let them know. This is business as usual for them. Place your order and wait for them to call you when they receive it. Easy peasy.
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