I will never forgive America.

I will never forgive America.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >We will not accept anything smaller than 7.62
    >Hey guys have you seen this new 5.56 round?
    Fricking Americans I swear to god. This was the future in 1950 and you destroyed it for NO reason.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We didn't have the right powder at that point and bullpups r gay

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      it was clearly superior to the 7.62mm that became 7.62mm Nato in testing, including the american testing. it perfromed better than the opposition in testing of the gun and perfectly met the design brief.

      essentially the americans went full fudd only to turn around 15 years later and insist on a even smaller cartridge and 50years after that decide that maybe something between the two was better.

      thing is the american pre selectin program studies - operation salvo- flattly concluded that the approach the british were taking was better.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >EM-2 adoption is halted by American insistence on using 7.62x51
    >FN FAL (Right Arm of the Free World) sees mass adoption throughout NATO, and the rest of the world
    >G3 is adopted by many nations as well
    I get that the EM-2 looks cool, but the way things worked out was the superior path anon

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Could the FAL and G3 be chamber in .280 british

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        iirc FAL was designed for it (or a similar cartridge)

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        FAL was originally chambered in .280 and was redesigned for 7.62x51 on the proviso that the US adopted the FAL. The US turned around and adopted the M14 after the changes were made anyway

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >US adopts FAL
          >conscript military gets deployed to Veitnam
          >gets their shit pushed in by AK's
          >M16 gets adopted anyway
          There is absolutely no practical difference between the M14 and FAL, both would have been cucked to semi auto only, and both use 7.62x51mm. The real change would have been adopting the FN MAG.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The FAL was just a better designed rifle in general. While the M16 would have probably been adopted either way, the FAL is far superior to the M14, the old brass just didn't like the idea that America would use a rifle that they didn't make and they had some strange obsession with the Garand.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >FAL is better!
              >semi auto 20 round magazine fed 7.62x51mm rifle
              >M14
              >semi auto 20 round magazine fed 7.62x51mm rifle
              They are the exact same thing.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                M14 has, among other things, a sporter stock profile that makes it harder to manage on full auto, an action with its locking surfaces totally exposed to the elements so it'll eat shit any time it's not clean, dry, warm, and sunny out, a safety catch that you have to stick your finger inside the trigger guard to operate, and no good or even slightly unbad way to mount an optic short of throwing the barreled action in a chassis that makes the gun weigh 15 lbs
                all so that we could save a few pennies reusing M1 Garand tooling, which no M14 part actually does, and adopt a rifle that was designed here
                literally the only saving grace of the M14 is that the inch pattern abomination we were going to adopt looks like dogshit

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    EM2 just shows that British no longer had the backbone to maintain the empire.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe but the SLR sure did

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Maybe but the SLR sure did
        only against the unarmed, against the armed not so much, in the end though what really lost the bongs everything, their allies, economy, friends, military, good reputation abroad was (you)

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine how awful that gun must have been that the sa-80 was adopted over it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It was a better gun then the SA-80

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        How stupid do you have to be to believe that? Not a rhetorical question btw. The em2 could have been resurrected when they looked at the two and decided to go with the 5.56 but they decided to go with the sa80 design instead.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        A nerf gun is a better gun than the SA-80

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sexiest looking bullpup ever IMO. America is cool as frick though.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If you really wanted it, you would've become a super power to strong arm your allies and feed your military industrial complex

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >get Kel-Tec m43
    >chamber it in .277 Fury

    The EM2 rides again.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Those homies are crazy

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >15 MOA
    >destroyed itself in 2000 rounds
    >round is just cucked 7.62x51mm
    >belt fed machine guns would be nearly ineffective
    7.62x51mm was the correct choice.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Used it in H3VR. Feels like absolute shit to control in VR. Imagine in real life

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes, a videogame is totally real life.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We do not need your forgiveness.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it would've just been ditched immediately like every one that's not the aug you noguns bong

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    An AR-10 in .276 Pedersen would be miles better, limey bullpup gay.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  15. 1 year ago
    sage

    guns shit

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >form-fitting chamber cover
    I'm usually pretty unimpressed by the "bullpup bad because explosion close to face" argument but this one could probably have stood another trip across the drawing board.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The EM-2 has always been the peak dunning-Kruger effect example for newbies.

    The cartridge (even in previous iterations) was hardly much more controllable in full auto, the firearm was notoriously inaccurate and unreliable, and not having a cartridge suitable for use in a GPMG would’ve massively limited the firepower of every British military element larger than Joe Schmo with his EM-2. Just to clarify, going with 7.62x51 was the wrong choice, but that doesn’t automatically make .280 in the EM-2 the right one either.

    Just as some conjecture, it’s likely that adoption of .280 British as a half measure between a full power and intermediate rifle round would’ve moronic the eventual progress of NATO in transitioning to a true intermediate cartridge.

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