I will never forgive America. Posted on February 28, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor I will never forgive America.
>We will not accept anything smaller than 7.62
>Hey guys have you seen this new 5.56 round?
Fucking Americans I swear to god. This was the future in 1950 and you destroyed it for NO reason.
We didn't have the right powder at that point and bullpups r gay
it was clearly superior to the 7.62mm that became 7.62mm Nato in testing, including the american testing. it perfromed better than the opposition in testing of the gun and perfectly met the design brief.
essentially the americans went full fudd only to turn around 15 years later and insist on a even smaller cartridge and 50years after that decide that maybe something between the two was better.
thing is the american pre selectin program studies - operation salvo- flattly concluded that the approach the british were taking was better.
>EM-2 adoption is halted by American insistence on using 7.62x51
>FN FAL (Right Arm of the Free World) sees mass adoption throughout NATO, and the rest of the world
>G3 is adopted by many nations as well
I get that the EM-2 looks cool, but the way things worked out was the superior path anon
Could the FAL and G3 be chamber in .280 british
iirc FAL was designed for it (or a similar cartridge)
FAL was originally chambered in .280 and was redesigned for 7.62x51 on the proviso that the US adopted the FAL. The US turned around and adopted the M14 after the changes were made anyway
>US adopts FAL
>conscript military gets deployed to Veitnam
>gets their shit pushed in by AK's
>M16 gets adopted anyway
There is absolutely no practical difference between the M14 and FAL, both would have been cucked to semi auto only, and both use 7.62x51mm. The real change would have been adopting the FN MAG.
The FAL was just a better designed rifle in general. While the M16 would have probably been adopted either way, the FAL is far superior to the M14, the old brass just didn't like the idea that America would use a rifle that they didn't make and they had some strange obsession with the Garand.
>FAL is better!
>semi auto 20 round magazine fed 7.62x51mm rifle
>semi auto 20 round magazine fed 7.62x51mm rifle
They are the exact same thing.
M14 has, among other things, a sporter stock profile that makes it harder to manage on full auto, an action with its locking surfaces totally exposed to the elements so it'll eat shit any time it's not clean, dry, warm, and sunny out, a safety catch that you have to stick your finger inside the trigger guard to operate, and no good or even slightly unbad way to mount an optic short of throwing the barreled action in a chassis that makes the gun weigh 15 lbs
all so that we could save a few pennies reusing M1 Garand tooling, which no M14 part actually does, and adopt a rifle that was designed here
literally the only saving grace of the M14 is that the inch pattern abomination we were going to adopt looks like dogshit
EM2 just shows that British no longer had the backbone to maintain the empire.
Maybe but the SLR sure did
>Maybe but the SLR sure did
only against the unarmed, against the armed not so much, in the end though what really lost the bongs everything, their allies, economy, friends, military, good reputation abroad was (you)
Imagine how awful that gun must have been that the sa-80 was adopted over it
It was a better gun then the SA-80
How stupid do you have to be to believe that? Not a rhetorical question btw. The em2 could have been resurrected when they looked at the two and decided to go with the 5.56 but they decided to go with the sa80 design instead.
A nerf gun is a better gun than the SA-80
Sexiest looking bullpup ever IMO. America is cool as fuck though.
If you really wanted it, you would've become a super power to strong arm your allies and feed your military industrial complex
>get Kel-Tec m43
>chamber it in .277 Fury
The EM2 rides again.
Those bros are crazy
>destroyed itself in 2000 rounds
>round is just cucked 7.62x51mm
>belt fed machine guns would be nearly ineffective
7.62x51mm was the correct choice.
Used it in H3VR. Feels like absolute shit to control in VR. Imagine in real life
Ah yes, a videogame is totally real life.
We do not need your forgiveness.
it would've just been ditched immediately like every one that's not the aug you noguns bong
An AR-10 in .276 Pedersen would be miles better, limey bullpup fag.
>form-fitting chamber cover
I'm usually pretty unimpressed by the "bullpup bad because explosion close to face" argument but this one could probably have stood another trip across the drawing board.
The EM-2 has always been the peak dunning-Kruger effect example for newfags.
The cartridge (even in previous iterations) was hardly much more controllable in full auto, the firearm was notoriously inaccurate and unreliable, and not having a cartridge suitable for use in a GPMG would’ve massively limited the firepower of every British military element larger than Joe Schmo with his EM-2. Just to clarify, going with 7.62x51 was the wrong choice, but that doesn’t automatically make .280 in the EM-2 the right one either.
Just as some conjecture, it’s likely that adoption of .280 British as a half measure between a full power and intermediate rifle round would’ve retarded the eventual progress of NATO in transitioning to a true intermediate cartridge.