I was thinking about going to Bosnia because it's beautiful, but this country seems to be on fricking hard mode

I was thinking about going to Bosnia because it's beautiful, but this country seems to be on fricking hard mode
>landmines everywhere
>probably the second most bear dense country in Europe after romania
>more bears per square km than in most places in the US
>a lot of wolves
>most venomous snake in Europe that will probably kill you if it bites and you won't seek help

Any Bosnians on the board who could tell me if sleeping in the woods is safe out there? What precautions should I take? Any tips?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you go to the bear heavy area there probably isn't as many land mines, if you go to the landmine heavy area there probably isn't as many bears.
    Since landmines and bears would cancel each other out.
    See it's not so bad.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bears can smell landmines, dumbass

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How does it know that a landmine is going to blow it tf up?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're offput by the smell of the serbs that put them there.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            perfect country for tourism if you're serb

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Using bears to get rid of landmines is the most metal shit I've heard all week

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Using bears to get rid of landmines is the most metal shit I've heard all week
        Get Manowar on this right now.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dude there is as many brown bears in Yellowstone as there is in all of Bosnia. Bosnia is 10 times the size. Ofc most of thd USA has less bears m8 theres no bears in Hawaii, there should be though.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was talking about the average, of course there are going to be a lot of bears in national parks in the US.

      Also Bosnia is more like only 3-4 times the size of Yellowstone. And when you consider the fact that bears avoid urban areas and farmlands and stay mostly in the wilderness (which there isn't that much of compared to the US), chances of meeting one as a hiker are pretty high. I wouldn't be surprised if it was more likely to spot a bear in Bosnia than in Yellowstone.

      Just look at the stats of Romania for example (most amount of bears in the EU). There were 154 bear attacks on humans between 2016-2021 (5 years) which rounds up to like 31 a year, and 14 people died. There are around 12 bear attacks yearly in the US.

      There are almost 3 deaths by bear yearly in Romania, while in the US it's less than 1. And to remind you, Romania has 20 million inhabitants, while the US has like 350 million.

      Unironically Europe is more fricked when it comes to bears (if you live in a country which has them of course). You're much, much more likely to meet one and get attacked and die compared to the US, statistically.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The average is irrelevant. Some states lower the average by there being none and some states raise the average by there being fricking heaps. The fricking heaps states have way more than Bosnia.
        Not reading the rest.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you would have read the rest you'd know that it's much more likely to get killed by a bear in European places like the Balkans than in the US, despite the average population, density or other things, but whatever.

          Literally the statistics say so.

          But whatever, ignorant muttoid is an ignorant muttoid.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not really how statistics work since there are also more people available and living near bears to be killed by bears in Romania. 20 million compared to 500k in Wyoming. They're both the same size btw . I just counted 6 grizzly killings in the 2010s in Wyoming. So in that time, 240 bears killings should have gone down in Romania yeah? Idk how many happened but surely not that many.

            But it's kinda fricked because millions of people visit Yellowstone every year right. So it's impossible to actually figirebyour the stats. You have to look at how many people are in bear territory at any given time. That's where you get your solid number to work off.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I read it dumb frick. Why are you talking about the Entire US. You are not talking about all of Europe are you. You're not going to get killed by a bear In Hawaii bro.
              Now, like I said. You've got more people living in the Balkind than you have in Wyoming, there are villages everywhere and farms all through the mountains. You have a lot more people available to be killed by bears there. You have 20m people living there in Romania.

              While in Wyoming, you have a population of 500k and around 500k visiting each month. So let's say that's how many ptare in Wyoming. 20 times as many people live in Romania as there are in Wyoming. Conveniently there are also 10 times as many bears in Romania. So how many bear deaths were there in Romania between 2010 and 2020? You're telling me there should have been 30? Well there were 6 bear deaths in Wyoming in that decade. So you were more likely to die from a bear in Wyoming than you were in Romania.

              Now don't give me "all of USA" bullshit because we aren't talking about france and fricking Belgium here either are we.

              >You are not talking about all of Europe are you
              Even if I was, the entire Europe is pretty similar to the US when it comes to bear attack amount statistically, but whatever, it's maybe a 10% difference per capita I believe.

              I never said that Wyoming isn't a hotspot or some shit.

              The thing is that the hiking/camping culture in Europe is not as big as in the US. You don't get 500k hikers in Romania each month with a substantial amount of them camping in the wild at night, most tourists and hikers sleep at hotels, and density of bears matters in a situation of camping, because Wyoming is almost completely wild and has less bears, while Romania is pretty urbanized and there are human settlements everywhere. Most people in Europe have never camped in the wild in their entire lives.

              Bear populations are more dense because if you count out all the villages and the forest within 5-10k of their vicinity, the 6000 bears would be fricking densly packed, and if you'd decide to camp in the wild, a chance of encountering one would be much higher I bet. I was mostly asking if sleeping in the forest is safe, because with so many bears in Bosnia, I don't really know.

              If Romania was a touristy hotspot for hiking and other outdoorsy stuff like Wyoming is, I believe that there would be many more bear attacks and deaths each year.

              You're looking at the problem from a perspective of an American I believe, and I get it, not your fault, you don't really know how the out culture and hiking works here.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The thing is that the hiking/camping culture in Europe is not as big as in the US.
                clueless mutt.
                hiking in usa is a Thing, something you plan for and make into a whole lot of fuzz just to go glamping once a year, hiking in europe is daily life, its going for a evening walk, maybe even going to school, and in some regions its through bear heavy ares. most americans dont live in areas or have work days that let them go on hikes daily you cant even leave your house without driving.
                pic related give you a clue, i hiked in finland and sweden many times never seen a bear, then again northern bears are scared of humans since they rarely see them, balkan bears live among them and are more used to them, they wont run away just from your scent.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Man, I'm from Europe and I live in a rural area.

                I totally agree with what you said. Yeah, "hiking" is more common in Europe, but most people here don't even consider that hiking. What to a mutt would be hiking, most Europeans would consider just taking a walk to the forest.

                That's why there isn't really a culture surrounding it. We don't have that many geargays, most people do day hikes and if they do a longer hike they sleep in hostels or in private fenced camping areas with access to everything, and in a lot of countries setting up a tent or even sleeping in a bivvy is straight up illegal.

                There are a lot of things that have a culture in the US while not having a culture in Europe because they're so commonplace. Like bike commuting for example. Americans are making a whole fricking lifestyle out of this thing and /n/iggers on reddit are constantly posting images of their shitty bikes and making a fuss about riding 5km to work each day.

                To me it's as weird of a concept like making a subculture out of car commuting and posting pictures of your stock Toyota Yaris. Funny.

                Anyway, still, while hiking in Europe is common, overnight camping in the wild is definitely not.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hiking in europe is daily life,
                Lemme stop ya right there. Walking in a city isn't hiking.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                we have this thing called nature here, and we didnt erase it all like americans did. one can live in a city and have barren mountains or wast forests within a short days hike from home, or just take a bus there or drive the 20min it takes. this topic is balkans anyway and its one of the places this is very real. you have internet i suggest you look it up yourself before making a fool of yourself again.
                pic related houston...

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ...on the same zoom level as sarajevo.
                by the time you have driven out of houston during rush hour a sarajevogay has walked from his home to the nearest peak. and then you still have to drive another few hours to find a decent place to hike and then drive back again.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're fricking tiny though. I always thought the Balkin mountains were a big wilderness and then I actually looked at it on Google earth and the actual area of mountains is like the size of an average mountain range in NZ that shoots off the southern alps thats not even significant. And that's just compared to NZ, North America has ranges that make the whole southern alps look tiny.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the delusions of eurotards never cease to inspire and amaze

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ...and same zoom level over random usa...

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ... vs europe
                so who lives closest to nature?
                as a poster above said
                >What to a mutt would be hiking, most Europeans would consider just taking a walk to the forest.
                we can walk in the forest from our home, you cant. suck to be you.
                >inb4 alaska or the rockies
                you dont live there, its like a dutch claiming out-points on behalf of the alps or the nordic mountains. oh wait... he can, because he is closer to that than most of you!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The entire western half of the lower 48 is mountainous. About a 1/4 of the eastern half is mountainous. The middle flat area ironically has no population (except the area on the Great Lakes which are faint freshwater lakes which is crazy on its own). There is vastly more nature in the US than Europe. The big flat Great Plains is never more than 6 hours drive from mountains btw.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I live in a high rise in the US and there is a creek in the back yard I can follow for miles through the woods all the way to a great lake.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                our nature mogs yours any day of the week. zoom out you moronic Black person.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I read it dumb frick. Why are you talking about the Entire US. You are not talking about all of Europe are you. You're not going to get killed by a bear In Hawaii bro.
            Now, like I said. You've got more people living in the Balkind than you have in Wyoming, there are villages everywhere and farms all through the mountains. You have a lot more people available to be killed by bears there. You have 20m people living there in Romania.

            While in Wyoming, you have a population of 500k and around 500k visiting each month. So let's say that's how many ptare in Wyoming. 20 times as many people live in Romania as there are in Wyoming. Conveniently there are also 10 times as many bears in Romania. So how many bear deaths were there in Romania between 2010 and 2020? You're telling me there should have been 30? Well there were 6 bear deaths in Wyoming in that decade. So you were more likely to die from a bear in Wyoming than you were in Romania.

            Now don't give me "all of USA" bullshit because we aren't talking about france and fricking Belgium here either are we.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like the type of place where people will either be really nice -- come into my home, you are guest. Here is tea. We eat special cake when guest arrive. Welcome!" -- OR they are going to rob you of everything you own and leave you standing there bloody and bare-footed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, people in the Balkans are generally nice. I've been to some countries there and I've generally had cool experiences with the folk there.

      Countries that you've described don't really exist in Europe, since there are no genuinely Africa/Middle East level impoverished and crime ridden regions in Europe. Nobody is going to steal your shoes anywhere in here, unless you're wearing $2000 Jordans in the wrong hood or you've messed with the wrong people and they want to humiliate you or some shit. The entirety of Europe is safer than most of the US.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The entirety of Europe is safer than most of the US.
        you forgot that bosnians are muzzies. and the situation there is quite tense now because of the recent flareup with serbia.
        now is probably not the best time to visit as a christian

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Muzzies are friendlier to tourists and visitiors than christians because of their religion.

          The problem with most Muslim countries is that most of them are poor or have terrorists so you have a higher chance of getting robbed by some crooks or getting kidnapped. Ordinary people are usually more welcoming than in most places in Europe, outside of the Balkans which again, are a mix of Muslim and Slav customs, and both are very friendly to visitors.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >people
        >balkans
        Pick one.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          cope all you want burger, but the balkans are safer than most of europe and your Black person infested continent

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick it I read the rest. Why are you now talking about Romania, is that where we are going now?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I gave it as an example of an European country with the most statistics on bear attacks available, that has a pretty similar urbanization and bear density to Bosnia on average, which also happens to be Balkan and have similar landscapes.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >getting chased by Bosnian bear
    >no tree to climb up
    >Bosnian bear treads on landmine
    >gets blasted 50ft into the air
    Sounds based tbh

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol,
    /out/oids arguing over who's forest are more dangerous is the like the boring rural white guy version of Black folk arguing over who's hood is the hardest.

    >Yo homie come around d'ese Adirondacks, y'all homies gon' be food once da bear smell yo ass around, n'om sayin?
    >Y'all never know when it gonna get real out in d'ese Cadcades, b***h. Shit ain't no joke, homie. We out here doing d'is shit everyday, ya feel me?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And of course all of these people making these impassioned arguments almost never go outside. I love this board.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine being worried about bears, just make noise and they wont bother you

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I live in Bosnia,am a member of the Bosnian search and rescue service and hike regularly,minefields are all properly marked and just download Minefields.info and you should be safe,as for bears it is the same as in every other country,bring protection against bears,set up a perimeter etc. Try not to stray away from the hiking paths marked by red and white circles or lines and always listen to Minefields.info,just like via Dinarica all trails have been made to go around minefields and you should be safe to go off the path if you want to camp,as for snakes learn to differentiate them,only 2 types of deadly venomous snakes in Bosnia which are poskok and šargan,you can check bhhuatra.com for that,always wear hiking gaiters when walking and dont lean on any trees before looking,clean your campsite well and you should be fine

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bring protection against bears
      What's the gun laws in Bosnia?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're meh,if you're over 18 you can carry a fake gun that shoots blanks long as you have the receipt,for a real handgun you need to ne 21 but they will very likely refuse you if you are younger than say 26,as a foreigner you cant bring in your own guns,as for hunting rifles and such you need to be a member of a hunting club at least 1 year and get their approval after which you can purchase and own semi auto rifles,bolt action etc.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you give 800 dollars to Muhamed's cousin and he digs up one of many 30 year old m70's that was buried in his back yard

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for a quality answer. I'm probably going to buy a ticket for July. Hopefully you don't have to rescue me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who do you rescue most, from what country I mean. Also do you have some good story's?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We mostly rescue other balkaners,usually drunken hunters,as for foreigners its of varying nationalities,often germanics and an odd amount of poles and czechs

        My funniest story is when some guy went to his vikendica(roughly translating to weekend house) that is in the mountains and that weekend we had a lot of heavy snow and he hasnt called home in 3 days so we were sent to look for him,when we got to his mountain home we entered and found him balls deep in his wife

        That same winter we were sent for a guy that said he is going for a walk,we found him on the 2nd day just as we were about to head home hanging from a tree,he was so frozen when we went to take him down the rope he was tied to snapped like a twig

        A drunk driver also once crashed off a cliff leadinv into a river and its a very steep decline but the car was caught by the shrub on the side of the cliff before it fell,it was to impractical and dangerous to cut the car up and there was a good chance it'd fall and it already moved a few times so we were told to cut his body up,we used machetes and saws and it was very laborious and some parts were very hard to get to and the car was always swinging and creaking and if you were standing at the wrong place it could crush you if it went down

        My first call for a person was 84 year old man last seen returning from the mosque,we searched for him for a week,we had lots of volunteers and it was a big thing,9 days after someone reported a body in a small river completely opposite of where he was found,his body was very bloated like a balloon,his skin was a bluish white and the small was so horrid I had to get an old covid mask and spray it with deodorant and put it on,when we grabbed by his arms to pull him from the water the skin of the arm my colleague was holding slipped off like a glove from the elbow down,he was so big he couldn't fit in a body bag so we had to wrap him in cling foil and load into a van.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >and an odd amount of poles and czechs
          Lmao, I'm OP and I'm Polish. Maybe Bosnia attracts Poles for some reason and we're pretty dumb.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's full of illegal immigrants trying to reach europe, also smugglers and human trafficking

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't bosnia predominantly muslim? I wouldn't bother.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >being scared of non immigrant muslims in an european country because you've watched too much propaganda on fox news and cnn so that the sheep citizens can justify and accept the wars in the middle east
      yup, the usual mutt stuff

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >non immigrant muslims
        muslim "bosniaks" are literally turks/descendants of turks

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Still better than Serbians. I think I would rather be African than Serbian (but perhaps would rather be Serbian than Indian).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well shit, you better not look up the of Europe from the years 1600-1900 and look up how much Turks mixed with the Balkan population overall because you might get really surprised.

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