I want to move out west but I think I'm going to stay on the east coast to be closer to family. Help me justify my decision by giving me copes. Tell me why western North Carolina is somehow more desirable than Utah or Colorado. I'm currently visiting Asheville and was surprised by the size of the mountains I've seen so far (didn't get any pictures), but I need more copes, the lush deciduous forest meme isn't cutting it
Colorado is blown out and Utah is mostly desert.
>t. spent 25 years in CO and live in UT.
I like the desert
Maybe you'll love it here, but where I live summer is about 6 months long and brutally hot. The northern part of the state from Ogden south to Provo along the Wasatch Front is what I consider heavily populated, mirroring the Front Range in Colorado. I'd say the worst thing from an PrepHole perspective is the distance you must travel to get into the high backcountry, but my perspective is likely skewed because I lived in a small mountain town in CO for so long. If you're cool with driving a few hours to get away from the crowds, and then hiking another couple of hours to lose the crowds again, then just research the cost of living in the west and that should get your mind right.
I did. People out here are great but flakey as hell. That's simply because there are no consequences. Very chill, weed is cool here. Virtually limitless possibilities if you live in a big city, cool ass people if you life in a small town. Really cant go wrong.
In terms of hiking you can see for fricking ever in the west. Its mind boggling to an east coasty like me. 20-30 miles in some cases.
Frick the east coast! I am never going back there. You are all a bunch of self loathing wienersuckers.
wish i could go there but i wouldnt know where to go. the west coast crowd seems to have infiltrated and ruined the west and the middle
You can. Stop making moron excuses.
Somewhere around the Phoenix Metro Area. Do your research because, as is true with any major city, this place is 80% slum and about 20% top tier living. You could actually die if you moved into the south west end of the city, that place is dangerous.
>moron excuses
I have no money and I gotta be with these people who raised me.
That's better, at least you admit its because of your own inaction and babylike tenancies.
>tenancies
>Still manbaby
Get fricked moron.
And then you turn around and call people rootless
Where did you move to?
> Very chill, weed is cool here.
Opinion discarded. lol
>dude I just love the hustle and bustle of the big city
I don't think this is the board for you, but you already knew that.
>stay on the east coast...Help me justify my decision by giving me copes
No skinwalkers, not many anyway.
Maine and the NE in general has the highest concentration of skinwalker stories.
That's because nobody knows anything about skin walkers. If they did, they'd know they're an Arizona/New Mexico thing...
My biggest concern would be the housing market. My wife has worked in the mortgage industry for 12 years. Last year they closed 211 mortgages in February. The year before that and even during the Covid lockdowns it was around the same. She said there were more in 2019, but did t give a number. This year they’re predicting 65 closures. So it’s all coming to an end, maybe.
Housing in the entire country has skyrocketed in price, but a lot of markets in the western half of the country saw larger increases, percentage wise. Logically they stand to lose more.
It’s probably the worst time in history to buy a house (and, maybe, to sign a lease).
The Carolinas are great. I grew up in FL and moved to the Charlotte area in NC in 2004, about a 1 hour drive from the foothills and 2 hours from the mountains. Moved to the SC Upstate area in 2020 and now live about an hour from Asheville. Plan on moving deeper into the mountains in the coming years. Great scenery and if you avoid the tourist areas, there is plenty of remote land and getaway spots. I recommend the Carolinas, but I'm partial....
Asheville area here, I love western NC. Lived out in the Rockies for a few years and it was cool but moved back to NC because Appalachia felt more like home to me. Different kind of mountains but just as much of an outdoor vibe. I dislike the city but being in proximity to it is nice just for the convenience of stores and good food and work. Actual bumfrick western NC is more cheap than around Asheville but there's very little in the way of amenities, so its a tradeoff of how self-sufficient you want to be.
Why does it have to be better than Utah and Colorado? There's plenty of good PrepHole shit where you live. You don't need "copes". You need to appreciate what you have in your region if you don't want to move or can't for whatever reason. You can always go to other places on vacation.
Moving to CO was the best decision I ever made. Sorry, OP.
check out Oakhurst California
>inb4 spergs hate on California
we have the most beautiful and the most varied scenery in the country. im an hour and a half away from beautiful beaches, Yosemite, kings canyon/sequoia, and other lesser known Sierra Nevada trails and camping that blow basically every other state out of the water.
I have surfed and ski’d in the same day many times
but you have to make good money, or at least decent money
i don't think the people shitting on cali are really trying to deny how beautiful it is, it's more the politics, taxes, and overcrowding that are the issues.
not a meme
the east is nicer forests
they come alive in spring
idk if i'd say either side's forests are really better, i think personal taste plays into it a lot
east is superior
this is simply an objective truth
have fun in the west with the busloads of chinese tourists and the strict permitting requirements to go anywhere or do anything other than BLM desert
insecure much? lmao
2nd part about permitting isn't even true outside maybe the coast, like what are you even referring to?
all sorts of places in the west, and hell even in the adirondacks are tied up with permitting regulations, if you want to camp there's a lottery or you need to pay for it or reserve in advance etc.
to be fair GSMNP is the same way but the West is very restrictive in general with where you can go and when.
And, the climate just sucks.
I deny that it is beautiful. It is dry and lifeless and there's a reason it was settled last.
>the West is very restrictive in general
this just isn't true in my experience, i can go dispersed camp in my national forest whenever i feel like it and don't have to tell anyone, never heard of anything like what you're talking about
>there's a reason it was settled last
this also literally isn't true, cali was the first state founded in the west during the gold rush lol. how do you not know this shit? i thought education on the east coast was supposed to be good?
>in the west
California is a literal garden of Eden, there's no where in the country, with a better climate. East coast climate is generally just as bad as the interior west , either too cold or too hot
>California is a literal garden of Eden
*laughs in 4 million dollar home that is still really smol*
east coast climate is fine especially in the central and southern part
>but the West is very restrictive in general with where you can go and when.
this is complete bullshit. I can hike into any National forest and camp wherever I like, whenever I like. No permit needed. So, I have 17 million acres in my home state in which I can camp without a permit. You are not only wrong and moronic but You have never been out west- Vegas and the Grand Canyon doesnt cut it.
>have fun in the west with the busloads of chinese tourists and the strict permitting requirements to go anywhere or do anything other than BLM desert
this guy again. You are always so very wrong. why is that?
>objective truth
>they come alive in spring
forest out West are alive all year round.
Lived in both.
NC and VA
and the NW
Both are fine.
I would take either.
Find a good community in either anon 🙂
I'm an autistic loner, I want to go be alone in the desert. Asheville is mobbed asf by tourists, all the trailheads are packed, shit is not bussin. It's probably better outside of town but that's means more driving
i grew up in the swampy south and moved up to the north west (not washington or oregon, more like wyoming, idaho, montana area) about half a year ago, and so far i love it. one of the biggest upsides aside from the obvious is the availability of public land. i still sit out on my porch in the morning just because i haven't gotten used to being able to see hills and mountains. i moved away from my family too anon, i think it's worth it. just call them once a week and it's basically the same, plus when they come to visit you can show them all the cool camping spots you found.
Colorado fricking sucks. The nature is great but cost of living is fricking gay and the people are obnoxious wooks and stacys who still think dubstep is the best music in the world. Also the weed is terrible compared to the West coast.