I want to buy a target flintlock pistol as my first foray into black powder shooting. It looks fun as hell.

I want to buy a target flintlock pistol as my first foray into black powder shooting. It looks fun as hell.
Does ANYONE here have one? Like a 'yazel' or some other brand? They're kinda rare so this is a long shot.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is some weird shit, I love it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah they caught my attention for sure.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/hGQ1Yi2.jpg

        Wow, this is neat.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So uhhh is the breech plug super deep or what? Usually you locate the touch hole right in front of the breech face if possible, and on normal muzzleloaders the plug is only about a half inch long.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Some target flints actually use backwards facing locks so that the touchhole can be closer to the rear

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >backwards facing locks
        Scandalous! There will be Hell to pay when the gunmaker's guild hears of this heresy!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Some are even on the left side. Heresy

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck is this and why do I want one now?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      External moving parts are cool and octagons are sexy

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is there anything boomers won't put 1911 grips on?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      muh dick

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So does anyone here own one or no

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ...these are still restricted weapons in Canada, aren't they?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      probably

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lol yeah, well prohibited now I guess

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Context?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How to identify a pregnant flintlock pistol

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          high capacity powder kegs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        dangerous assault flintlocks were banned alongside glocks and other handguns so "gangsters" in Toronto can no longer use them to settle "beefs"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          for

          Context?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/xrf1NA3.png

          lol yeah, well prohibited now I guess

          Anyone can just fucking make a muzzleloading pistol lol.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Anyone can just fucking make a muzzleloading pistol lol.
            Do idiots like you have an idea how hard it is to make a flintlock lock or how much skill was required to make a flintlock or percussion pistol? before you answer go and fucking do it. In the meantime get the fuck off this board.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              you don't have have to make a flintlock, you can make a matchlock and it's much simpler

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I mean with the wonderful thing known as hardware stores flintlocks are pretty easy, mild steel pan, spring loaded hammer with a trigger, and a bit of pipe

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Trudeau would castrate you publicly for defying his decree.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              He'd be too busy hiding just like last time

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This is the process that a expert gunsmith in that field had to go through to get the best results.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does that thing take 1911 grips and triggers? What a beautiful clusterfuck of a design.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      trigger shoe is 1911 but the trigger is just a nice flintlock one I think

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      grip is a SW 41

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    aight I have a gunbroker alert now. you fucks better not outbid me on one of these flinteenlocklevens

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      oh fuck
      https://www.gunbroker.com/item/955255572

      someone stop me

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ah shiet
        Thats really tempting.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >someone stop me
        Why would I do that?
        Also pick up some spare flints, they always break at the worst possible moment.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nice, thanks for posting that link, you have effectively spoonfed me with the answer to my question regarding the breech plug. I think I will save these images from the listing and tuck that folder away as inspiration for a future project, I think it would be fun to make one of these from a straight octagon blank in .36 or .40, but instead of mounting it on a pistol frame I would make the grip myself and hopefully figure out a way to use set triggers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          to use a set trigger you just use a set trigger lol. Don’t cheap out on the lock though

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I meant double set triggers, I'm not sure how I'd inlet the long trigger plate through the solid wood grip while still allowing access to the adjustment screw, but I'm sure after some brainstorming I could come up with a workable solution. For the lock I would probably just buy a Chambers or Kibler late Ketland.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You can get compact single-set triggers, you want a pistol sized double lever double set? Yeah idk, I’d have to look over the various suppliers. Single sets are scary from a safety perspective anyway

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          so, it looks like they have a rear threaded cap for the barrel and then an internal threaded section with the plug?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's what it looks like to me, yeah. Thread the breech a few inches down for the fully threaded plug, since you don't need to worry about timing a tang with a barrel flat fitting the plug is probably extremely easy, especially if you're turning those breech threads yourself you probably already have the tools needed to make a perfect fit on your first try. I've been thinking about this throughout the day and would probably mount the lock in reverse like

            https://i.imgur.com/ZceGAla.gif

            grip is a SW 41

            posted. That would put the sear bar right above the triggers, I need that since I want to use traditional double set double levers. It would also probably negate the need for such a deep breech plug and effectively lengthen the barrel.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              the Kiblers are meant for basic inlet mounting it looks like. The yazel's lock appears to use two socket cap screws in the frame (the lock itself has tapped holes?), which I assume just has generous inletting as the lock is torqued against the pistol frame. That method seem to be a requirement for this sort of pistol. What's your plan for that?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's what it looks like to me, yeah. Thread the breech a few inches down for the fully threaded plug, since you don't need to worry about timing a tang with a barrel flat fitting the plug is probably extremely easy, especially if you're turning those breech threads yourself you probably already have the tools needed to make a perfect fit on your first try. I've been thinking about this throughout the day and would probably mount the lock in reverse like [...] posted. That would put the sear bar right above the triggers, I need that since I want to use traditional double set double levers. It would also probably negate the need for such a deep breech plug and effectively lengthen the barrel.

                ok never mind looking at both sides, and comparing yazel/10-ring models, the cap screws aren't the same as the pins/screws holding the lock in.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That is a good question. I won't have a lock bolt going through the bolster since there will be no bolster to speak of. Relying on the wood stock to hold everything together does not seem prudent. I have a late Ketland in front of me right now and there's about 3/4" between the bottom of the lock plate and where the touch hole would be located, there's room below the lock bolster and above the mainspring for a bolt in line with the tapped hole that's traditionally located at the front of the lock plate in front of the mainspring bend. I think the only way this could work is if I used a skinny 13/16" barrel and installed extra chunky lugs under the barrel and affix the lock bolts through those. Just mocking things up with my hands makes it seem like this would clear the trigger with ease. I'm just not sure if traditional barrel lugs would be robust enough for this application. Thanks for asking that question, it has given me lots to think about.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you mean when the bolster is flat against one of the barrel flats, the lock isn't 'tall' enough for the sear to be accessible?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There should be enough room under the barrel for the sear to be able to have full range of movement if I'm looking at things correctly. A picture is worth far more than I can try to describe with words, but the two bolts I've highlighted help form the foundation of the important stuff being secured to the stock. The hole for the lock bolt is drilled through the breech plug bolster, and the tang bolt secures the trigger plate to the stock. These are all metal/metal connections, with the wood stock acting kind of like a washer is how I imagine it. With no tang or bolster I will need to find alternative methods to secure everything without relying on wood screws to hold it all together. The Yazel pistol creator was smart and used metal for the grip, I am dumb and will continue to try to find a way to use wood.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ah I see. here's a wood one to examine

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting, a different approach than what I'm envisioning but still a good reference to have on hand, mucho thanko

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No but I want one now

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I live in New England, can I just like go out to the rocky woods area by my house and find flint on the ground randomly? How did they get it back in the day, flint mines?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >How did they get it back in the day, flint mines?
      yes. there's a shitload of Flint in Wiltshire, England so they probably just popped it on a ship and sent it where it needed to go.
      Incidentally, Asian guns stayed Matchlock for a long time after flintlocks were invented because there isn't much flint in Asia.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I should read a book

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There's a reason Flint, Michigan is named what it is. There's more in the Appalachians and outside some state parks near the Great Lakes that's really high-quality for both knapping and making gunflints. The West coast has very poor deposits by comparison, mostly amorphous quartz, chert, and agate. Most of the Native tools up here in the PNW were made of bone, teeth, fire-hardened wood, and pecked basalt with a few high-status items made from the jade deposits out in Puget Sound or meteoritic iron traded down the coast. And most of the woodworking was steam-bent cedar because it was so hard to make woodworking tools that weren't literally beaver teeth mounted in a chisel body, friction drills, or a shitty basalt adze -- you had to split everything or laboriously hollow it out, no sawn planks.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I sorta want to thread one of these (yikes, threading octag barrel) and pin/weld a homemade silencer on the end. ATF still "allows" that right? For black powder shit?
    Nothing will be supersonic out of em right, even with heavy loads?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the gunbroker one doesn't have a half-cock, I checked with the seller. Isn't that a bit unsafe? what's the loading operation then/

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