>vatnik poster 1: Bakmut is the cornerstone of the entire Hohol defense in the east and Wagner is about to take it >vatnik poster 2: Bakmut is of no strategic relevance and the oikrainians and the khokols will die en mass defending it
Funny how there was a big textdump post made literally yesterday by some delusional vatnig claiming that Bakhmut was the key to the entire front, and Ukraine losing it would mean imminent russian victory
Bakhmut isn't important in itself, but if bakhmut fall it opens a straight path to Kramatorsk which is very important for Ukraine strategically. Ukraine doesn't need to defeat Russians in bakhmut but they need to keep them stuck there.
Wasn't bakmuth a target for the Russian push which is irrelevant now because of the loss of lyman but Wagner keep pushing because its in their contract
>send wave after wave of troops against Ukie defenses for MONTHS >they all get wiped out >lose so many men you get counter-attacked and start collapsing
>The plan was for Ukraine to cave shortly after the initial invasion
LOL no the plan was to use this conflict to punish economies worldwide and set the stage for the israelites in power to make whatever claims they want
The reason france left is because all these butthurt Africans rather have the Chinese/russBlack folk to turn them into slaves than to do diplomacy with the French.
Wagner is Putins personal warcrimes squad. Until the Ukraine war they spent their time butchering their way around Syria and various parts of Africa. In Ukraine though they learned that combat gets a lot harder when the other guy can shoot back.
>I thought Wagner were the best troops Russia had
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH YOU DID WHAT HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHSHSHAHAHSHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHSHA
It's not even that ridiculous of a statement. PMCs (or whatever alternative cope word Russia uses for mercs) are the only troops they have not severely affected by corruption, and they are among the most experienced. Of course, most of them are dead now, but all this applies to VDV as well.
Here's what Chapter 24, Article 208 of the Russian Criminal Code says: >1. Creation of an armed formation (unit, squad, or any other group) that is not envisaged by a federal law, and likewise operating of such a formation, shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of two to seven years.
Anyone who joins Wagner is a criminal under Russia law, so of course it's gonna be corrupt as frick.
http://www.russian-criminal-code.com/PartII/SectionIX/Chapter24.html
They might still be even after recruiting literal untrained convicts.
Reminder: Bakhmut holds no strategic or tactical whatsoever
Ukies will waste many lives and equipments trying to storm the Wagner defensive line and fortifications
>Wagner is on the defensive after slamming into Bakhmut since June
holy shit, sounds like theyre loosing
muchas obligadas
Oh really?
When Wagner were making gains there they were telling us that once bakhmut falls, the entire Eastern front falls with it.
Back when Lyman was still a thing, and Izium was still a thing, it was an essential point to break through for encercling the ukies.
Now that that is gone, its just a fortified defense point and literally the dumbest part of the donbas defense to attack directly
>vatnik poster 1: Bakmut is the cornerstone of the entire Hohol defense in the east and Wagner is about to take it
>vatnik poster 2: Bakmut is of no strategic relevance and the oikrainians and the khokols will die en mass defending it
Get your fricking stories straight man
This was what the KMT said about capturing Yan'an in the Chinese civil war.
Funny how there was a big textdump post made literally yesterday by some delusional vatnig claiming that Bakhmut was the key to the entire front, and Ukraine losing it would mean imminent russian victory
Bakhmut isn't important in itself, but if bakhmut fall it opens a straight path to Kramatorsk which is very important for Ukraine strategically. Ukraine doesn't need to defeat Russians in bakhmut but they need to keep them stuck there.
Exactly, So it is important both in terms of tactical and strategical impact
Wasn't bakmuth a target for the Russian push which is irrelevant now because of the loss of lyman but Wagner keep pushing because its in their contract
VATNIKSISTERS
>Twitter screencap
>No proof
frick off, wake me up when the Ukros bombard Tokmak
Wagner is Dirlegang now
They always were.
The original Wagner was pretty decent. They had decent gear and were trained ex-military. But they are all dead now. What is left are convicts.
>convicts
ackshually they're called "profit centers"
>pretty decent
If by "pretty decent" you mean "absolutely average infantry by western standards" then sure, it's pretty high bar for russia after all.
>russians larping as german elite soldiers
russians got their asses kicked against germany with 12 to 1 death rate
. what do you expect
Two more, "two more weeks" posts and Wagner will turn it around and Bakhmut will fall.
I honestly am all up for Ukraine killing as many russians as possible, but twitter threads are lame asf
wasn't gayner scraping the bottom of the barrel for warm bodies?
>send wave after wave of troops against Ukie defenses for MONTHS
>they all get wiped out
>lose so many men you get counter-attacked and start collapsing
what the FRICK was the plan here?
The plan was for Ukraine to cave shortly after the initial invasion. Everything since then has been damage control and panic.
>The plan was for Ukraine to cave shortly after the initial invasion
LOL no the plan was to use this conflict to punish economies worldwide and set the stage for the israelites in power to make whatever claims they want
botbro the brainlets at one of the propaganda rags in moscow published the mission accomplished article 4 days after the recent invasion
Comrade, recheck your information
There is no panic in Bakhmut
Wagner lost most of its best guys long ago, now it's basically a few kommissars leading shtrafniki into slaughter.
>france was losing to this in africa for the last decade
How pathetic is the frog army then?
The reason france left is because all these butthurt Africans rather have the Chinese/russBlack folk to turn them into slaves than to do diplomacy with the French.
>spend 8 months trying to take a medium-sized town
>fail
So this is the power of the Russian Federation...
this is what happens when you dont have millions of supplies form america like in ww2. russian gays think they are stronger than they actually are
Wagner is Putins personal warcrimes squad. Until the Ukraine war they spent their time butchering their way around Syria and various parts of Africa. In Ukraine though they learned that combat gets a lot harder when the other guy can shoot back.
>best troops Russia had
It's not a high bar
>I thought Wagner were the best troops Russia had
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH YOU DID WHAT HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHSHSHAHAHSHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHSHA
It's not even that ridiculous of a statement. PMCs (or whatever alternative cope word Russia uses for mercs) are the only troops they have not severely affected by corruption, and they are among the most experienced. Of course, most of them are dead now, but all this applies to VDV as well.
PMCs made of convicts may or may not be corrupt.
Here's what Chapter 24, Article 208 of the Russian Criminal Code says:
>1. Creation of an armed formation (unit, squad, or any other group) that is not envisaged by a federal law, and likewise operating of such a formation, shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of two to seven years.
Anyone who joins Wagner is a criminal under Russia law, so of course it's gonna be corrupt as frick.
http://www.russian-criminal-code.com/PartII/SectionIX/Chapter24.html
>a criminal under Russia law
and taking part in planning of an offensive war by itself is 15 years in Russian prison