i think russia is going to win.
they are proving that they are going to pay the price to win.
they can pay 500,000
and another 500,000
and another 500,000 after that.
their country will be knocked out of the great powers.
but they are willing to pay that.
Ukrainians have the supremacy of will, they will pay any price to remain independent. Orcs will mutiny if they keep dying by the thousands. Happened in 1917.
simply said, the comic in green shirt has anti christ features. how else do you explain, when he visits Belarus, a coup took place. then when he visited France, the Notre Dam burned down. And he visit Oman, the Sultan have died. He visits Turkey, and an earthquake arrives. One trip to USA leads to a snow storm, and before that, the impeachment of a president..? etc.. it is a duty for us as humanity, to remove him and those who supported him. We will win. humanity always has
Stop believing israeli lies.
This has nothing to do with Judaism. The president of Ukraine himself is israeli. Knock that shit off.
ok boomer
fricking esl arma tard
only two buzzwords? you can surely do better than that
Who the frick are you talking about Mr Schizo
zelinsky im geussing
Most of these events are fairly uneventful by "happenings" standards but
>he visited and there was a snow storm
Are you fricking baiting us with this shit? That's your sign of the antichrist?
actual IESLB
He visited poland and nothing happened you frick pile of shit
Even the Anti-Christ takes pity on Poland.
stop blowing up children, you fricking demon
>belarus
>france
>oman
>turkey
ok so far he's only harmed shitholes God would want smitten, and snowstorms happen in USA all the time
>they will pay any price to remain independent
lmfao wtf u guys are not independent
>pay any price to remain independent
When a bunch of American senator's moronic family members are all on the boards of companies dealing with your natural resources, you likely aren't all that independent.
>independent
>remain
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>this much seething about Ukrainian independence
I really is like sunlight to these roaches.
hey man the last country to try triumph of the will against the slavs didn't really work out. I'm pretty sure the orcs still lose to guns made after 1950, let's stay on that line.
>lose your already tenuous GP status
>economy down the shitter for possibly decades
>speedrun demographic collapse even further
>"winning"
It's like saying Japan actually won ww2 because people jack off to anime nowadays
NATO can pay 5 billion for each of these waves lmao
we will see.
the ukies were able to make gains this fall because they outnumbered the russians like 3-4 to 1.
and the gains werent exactly impressive.
that wont be the case anymore.
>the ukies were able to make gains this fall because they outnumbered the russians like 3-4 to 1.
Lmao
>Loses Kherson, Kharkiv Oblast
>Meh, not impressive.
>Gains Soledar salt mine
>This is the greatest military victory in modern history.
>gains werent exactly impressive.
Taking 12 000 km2 of land in the northeast, plus the whole goddamn city of Kherson isn't impressive? Mate, you're a moron.
They have already lost 1 million Russian men in the 18-40 age group who NOPE'd the frick out of Russia as soon as they heard about conscription.
These happen to also be the smartest men 18-40 in Russia
>300,000 didn't change anything
>Let's mobilize 500k civilians, this time will work.
It stabilised the front. Without it we would be getting Kharkiv level kino every week.
It being peak mud season stabilized the front.
Both played their role.
>kharkiv counteroffensive
>kherson counteroffensive
>ukrainian net gain in december
it sure did bud
24/7 ukraine shills can never give a straight answer. kharkov was guarded by understrength battalions and dnr morons and kherson was 1. a withdrawal and 2. a result of months of shaping by HIMARS. as of right now ukraine cant do offensive actions without giving up bakhmut and reciving more aid in the form of afvs. when ukraine gets 600 more afvs and howitzers then something can happen
Ukraine only has 8 brigades at Bakhmut. They've got more than enough force for the rest of the Vatniks.
>kherson was 1. a withdrawal and 2. a result of months of shaping by HIMARS
So what you are saying is that Ukrainian military actions forced the russians to withdraw from Kherson?
>kharkov was guarded by understrength battalions and dnr morons
Didn't know the most prized ruski mongolian First Guards Tank Army, Fourth Guards Tank Division etc units are "some dnr morons"
Get your facts straight you homosexual israelite lover pidorussian
Dude i know you know how understrength they were. What was it? Like 30% strength across the board? Frick off. Also.. israelite lover??? If i cared about shit like that id shill for israeli led ukraine. But i choose to look at things objectivly rather than rooting for the good guys or bad guys like u
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/israeli_Museum_and_Tolerance_Center
Idgaf about da jooz but how does this make you look right lol. Azov was in israel weeks ago and the majority of ukraines gov are of israeli heritage. The russians have been arming enemies of israel for decades. Russia losing a prolonged war is entirely in israels favor
>The russians have been arming enemies of israel for decades.
Russia is home to the only israeli ran territory outside of Israel
Oh so your moronic. Ok
My moronic what?
>Azov was in israel weeks ago
Why are you making shit up?
>he hasn't been following developments between azov and the adl
>officially annex kherson
>send mobiks to defend
>lose hard
>"we dint want it anyways"
>thinking giving up your "own" ground is a sign of tactical genius
vatniks never cease to amuse me
>"It's not different at all, is it Boris? HAHAHAHA!"
US/EU are recovering their ammo production capacities and Ukraine already got financial aid commitment from both US and EU for 2023 to keep the country running so I don't see how Russia will be magically able to break Ukraine. Unless Russia comes up with something huge and unexpected.
>something huge and unexpected.
Russia has none of this mojo. They will lose a nuclear war and that's the ultimate unexpected. We also understand their intelligence institutions more than they do and can just wear them out.
Old Russia is now dead. Ukraine revolting against ancient Russian slavers is what did it. Maybe the Russian people will be 'freed' to decent East Europe standards.
Now that it's apparent that Hungary, Romania, Transnistria, the Baltics, etc could all be around Czech Republic or even 1980s Austria levels of independent and decent.
Russia is a cancer to the entirety of Eastern Europe. W/o Russia, Poland is a lot better of in general.
Russianism must go, it is going. Putin and Ukraine broke the old Russia for a while, maybe forever. More mobilizations, more longer they remain down, put down forever if another wave. Ukraine survives, the minimum they're looking at now is Poland levels of free and independent, with even less Russia involved. That's a hard win for Ukraine.
Russia will be fighting on their tribal fiefs for the next 200 years at least. Best case for Putinism.
Russians have a vicious Imperial mindset. They think anything they conquer is "theirs". They're dinosaurs in the modern age. It's fitting they call themselves "The Third Rome" since it's clear they never experienced the Renaissance, LOL. The only way to get them to frick off is to beat them senseless. They only respect naked force.
You never met a slav woman or any woman at all. Stfu incel.
The Russian woman on the left isn't bad looking but the Ukrainian on the right is almost as hot.
In all seriousness, whenever i hear Russian apologists their "political realism" and "great power mentality" sounds much more like what you would expect during the 1800s such as at the Congress of Vienna then during the modern era. Extremely primitive line of thinking
Hey, come on man. The Baltics are already Czechoslovakia / Austria levels decent.
Yawn.
Target Russia's command structure.
Target its fuel supplies.
Target its ammo depots.
Target where the troops sleep at night.
Target their food supplies.
Target the military factories.
Target the locomotives and the rail hubs.
Stir up unrest inside Russia itself.
Continue to raise new Ukrainian forces.
Shore up Ukrainian air defense.
Strangle the supply of chips to Iran and Russia.
Improve Ukrainian Logistics & Medievac.
Strike the weak points of Russia's armor, and it will collapse. Death by 1,000 cuts.
Based Charlie Magne poster
Correct.
I advise Ukraine to remember two quotes.
>“No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for HIS country."
>"Kill all they send, and they will stop coming."
>Target Russia's command structure.
>Target its fuel supplies.
>Target its ammo depots.
>Target where the troops sleep at night.
>Target their food supplies.
>Target the military factories.
>Target the locomotives and the rail hubs.
>Stir up unrest inside Russia itself.
>Continue to raise new Ukrainian forces.
>Shore up Ukrainian air defense.
>Strangle the supply of chips to Iran and Russia.
>Improve Ukrainian Logistics & Medievac.
Armchair generals out in force tonight
>same vatBlack person create the same threads
did ukies blow up another pack of 600 mobiks?
also why do you think that ukies arent willing to pay 1 500 000 lives?
you are literally neighbours that share similar stubborn mentality except ukies actually have superior weapon and generals.
Russians are idiots to think anything will make the Ukrainians surrender. They're too fricking stubborn to give up.
Once the West realized the Ukrainians were diehard about fighting, they armed them freely.
>did ukies blow up another pack of 600 mobiks?
Unironically yes they did LMFAO
mongoloid wienerroaches scattering every day
Actually historically Ukrainians (at least in the section formerly under Austro Hungarian rule) were more outgoing and somewhat more individualistic while Russians were harsher and withdrawn. In short, Russians have always been homosexual Sovieticus
The breakdown in social order and troop discipline will be epic, officers will be getting fragged left and right.
Ukraine should shamelessly encourage such behavior via propaganda.
LOT of conscripts would cap an officer for a ticket out of Russian hell.
Imagine if they started offering say 1-5k USD for proof of dead Russian officer
>So many troops
Uh.....how many OFFICERS does Russia have left to lead this pathetic rabble?
500K drunk, starving, Russians in a field without heavy weapons is more of a threat to itself than Ukraine.
There will be barrier troops in the rear. But if they're HIMAR'ed, there will be nothing to stop the Russians from going, "Frick this noise! Frick this place!". They'll either run away or surrender, lol.
Lets start by defining "win" first, shall we? At this point I honestly don't understand what exactly the vatniks are dieing for besides maybe sheer stubbornness and for the megalomania of an illness ridden gremlin in moscow
I understand why they like 40k so much. Besides living in the same bleakness, at this point they also fight for a reason long forgotten without hope of victory chasing after a golden age that never really existed
Meh. Russia will collapse, and its women will be Ukrainianed.
Russian women are something else man. All Slavic women are somewhat insane but Russian ones are a special breed. Very prone to cheating, vain, insufferable after a while, malicious in some cases even.
And its also very bizarre how many of them are literally prostitutes. I mean ok I understand there's a lot of human trafficking going on but a lot of them dont mind becoming prostitutes before exploring other options
They sound like something out of a sci-fi breeding stock porno.
Look at her. She needs to be KHOKHOLED
With an enormous belly forcing her lower uniform to unbutton and her shirt to ride up.
Do not fall for such a trap
Of course IRL Russian women aren't worth a damn. I only recommend Russian women for Rule34 with Ukrainian "punishers".
One Russiabro in an old Syrian bred described Russian women as "feral prostitutes".
Didn't russia *just* make a propaganda video showing how great their women are, and trying to entice people to come frick the women in russia, because western women are gay or something?
Sunk cost fallacy, they've sunk too much into this war for them not to win. If they don't make some kind of return, they are fricked economically (which they probably irreversibly are already) and politically.
you're the homosexual who literally was telling me the "russian central bank would run out of money"?
e.s.l.
>attempts to shift the conversation
Nafogays literally were trying to tell me Russia would "run out of money" and collapse like the soviet union last thread, lol
that's rich coming from the c**t who spams nafonafonafonafonafo every thread
always tell the nafogay where they're from and that they don't belong here
In the same sense that I might win a rigged carnie game by paying $200 to win a $20 prize playing ring toss.
They might just win down the road. But not all prizes are worth winning.
Russia can mobilize all they want. It won't magically spawn competent officers, fix their logistics, etc.
They can't even competently run their existing invasion force! Imagine the STRAIN on their logistics an extra 500,000 would create!
Worse part is the smartest and most wealth will just flee the country everytime they mobilize.
Several of the ExUSSR states had pretty big booms this year due to all the fleeing high skill or wealthy russians.
Georgia had somewhere over a 100% increase in captial this year due to the middle class russians fleeing in the fall.
The current braindrain is far worse than the collapse of the USSR in the 90s
Mind you this isnt a russia will collapse tomarrow but its a long poisin
What even is the prize anymore. Resources? They've smashed up the country to get them, and its not like Russia is short of any itself. A lot of nations won't trade with you now either.
Population? Good one, they have either been killed, fled, or actively hate you now.
, plus you've killed and maimed hundreds of thousands of your own people
Clay? Why does the biggest country in the world need more land.
Prestige? The whole thing has been an embarassesment
Oh no, please don't kill all of the young men in Russia, that would totally suck lol
Especially without trucks or other such proper transport. The infantry will be forced to mass together due to lacking winter clothing. Sitting ducks.
All my favorite camprostitute femboys are russian tho and I want them to live.
I don't know what is it about russia that their dudes hit puberty with either the character creation gender slider max to the right and look like actual orcs, or with it max to the left and look better than most women.
Regardless, I want them to live so that Dugins dark vision of Russias future come true. Nubile russian twinks vill own nothing and vill be happy. There vill be HATO BVLLS going door to door and it vill be ME.
you WHAT
>I don't know what is it about russia that their dudes hit puberty with either the character creation gender slider max to the right and look like actual orcs, or with it max to the left and look better than most women.
It's just mimicry as an evolutionary strategy: if they look like women then the other Russian men will be less likely to try and rape them
Hello,
This is Marshall Luigi Cadorna
I am telegraphing from year 1917.
After 12 failed offensives at Isonzo and losing almost million men, i have come to suprising conclusion:
It turns out that with these newfangled machineguns and mortars , simply sending human waves of poorly armed, barely trained and unmotivated recruits against prepared defensive positions simply does not work all that well.
I hope this information is still useful people in 2023 .
I'm telling you this because I am in Hell and it's bad enough as it is without a bunch more goddamned Russians showing up.
The odds have always been in Russia's favor. Everyone claiming lopsided fatality ratios for AFU/RF is simply lying. On the balance Russia can take more and I seriously doubt NATO wants to put their forces on the frontline
+15 rubbles
I shouldn't find any of this funny bros.
https://twitter.com/KhersonFrom/status/1611379641276661760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1611379641276661760%7Ctwgr%5Ead4c86f9f2cd8ffeaf89da9c37cc030baf46a0e3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.russiadefence.net%2Ft8883p825-russian-special-military-operation-in-ukraine-35
https://twitter.com/Sprinter20000/status/1611841901082349570?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1611841901082349570%7Ctwgr%5Ead4c86f9f2cd8ffeaf89da9c37cc030baf46a0e3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.russiadefence.net%2Ft8883p825-russian-special-military-operation-in-ukraine-35
/k/ users drafting /uhg/ users to fight against /chug/ users colorized.
The santa going door to door handing draft notices is my favorite.
>Ukraine says
>"Russia will probably do what Ukraine has already done"
uhu yeah, what else? Is Russia going to ban all men from leaving the country? Bomb its own cities? Sell all the land to Black Rock? Sell all the grain with no ability to produce more next year? Ban anti-LGBT speech? Borrow astronomical amounts of money that guarantees its population debt slavery for centuries? I'm probably missing a few things.
>Ukraine bombs its own cities
Stop drinking the vodka poisoned by Chernobyl.
>https://www.google.com/search?q=ukraine+ban+anti+lgbtq+speech
enjoy homosexuals
You can't win this war Russia. Give up.
500,000 troops without proper gear or competent experienced officers.....put into killing range of people who have been terror-bombed for months?
Ukrainian civilians will tear them apart with their bare hands, absolutely eager for revenge. EVERYONE in Kyiv will shoot at them.
>we can bend reality by gaslighting
that time is over mutt
>b-but what aboot...
lol seethe and dilate
The REALITY is you are locked in a Sunk-Cost Fallacy filled with Diminishing Returns.
>>b-but what aboot...
>lol seethe and dilate
I told you in
that exactly what you said about Ukraine is doing Russia, you illiterate Black person
>what about x
>no you can't say what about X!
Woman mind. Transition already homosexual.
https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+ban+anti+government%20+speech
Enjoy Black person
>https://www.google.com/search?q=ukraine+ban+communist+party
>https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+communist+party
>https://www.google.com/search?q=communist+party+usa+donetsk
Anon, but that's exactly what's Russia is doing ...
> Bomb its own cities? Ban anti-LGBT speech?
source?
Ironically enough Russia did bomb its own cities to instigate the second Chechen war
It was supposed to be seen as Chechens bombing apartments but then some police officers who actually did their job for once found some suspicious people hanging around apartment planting stuff who turned out to be FSB who just happened to be performing a drill involving what would happen if bombs were planted. Similarly chemicals were found in the bombs which would have been prevalent at a local military base. Oh and also those who wrote this definitely died of natural causes
>Ban anti-LGBT speech?
for fricks sake I know a bunch of you homosexuals moved into this board last February but please for the love of God make this place smell less of reddit, that's all I will ever ask.
They have become a US colony, is what you are trying to say.
Historically that is how regional powers are made and how even the most bombed to shit nations became economic superpowers.
Ukraine's not a colony of America's. They will be a MAJOR regional ally.
>colony
just how many american are in ukraine right now?
Like... a thousand ish? Maybe? And most of those are probably civilians, with the remainder Foreign Volunteers who joined the Yuktobanian army to stop Erusea's latest shitfit.
These. No matter how bad Ukraine gets battered in the next few years America and its citizens are way too invested to give up on them. Once secure borders are established I expect a country on par with Germany, Japan, SK, or worst case Vietnam or Kuwait.
>B-but you gave up on Iraq/Afghanistan
Ukrainians have shown they're smart and unified enough to accept American generosity/cooperation and that is the single defining trait of a successful nation.
>Bomb its own cities?
Because it didn't happen during chechen war?
>Either align yourself with impoverished Russia or totalitarian China
Hmm
>LGBT
Bro don't be a fricking homosexual
>Blackrock
is this a new cope? thats the third time i saw it mentioned today
I've been thinking of it too. My guess is that someone made another Zeitgeist movie or Andrew Taint said something and the global underclass is happy that it learned a new word.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/28/zelenskyy-blackrock-ceo-fink-agree-to-coordinate-ukraine-investment.html
blackrock owns virtually all of the US housing market. It is the epitome of federal-reserve backed fake corporations. It's going to own Ukraine just like the burgers did with Iraq
what's fake about it?
Blackrock is the new George Soros because Blackrock tells companies that they won't invest unless the company pretends to be woke.
Note "Pretends" to be Woke, they don't actually care if the company is woke as long as they pay Hoteps to insult their employees.
Russia lacks the capabilities to make that sacrifice worthwhile. They can spend every last ruble and every last drop of HIV-positive Russian blood and they will still lose.
Russia mobilized 300,000 conscripts in the fall and they still lost a shit load of ground. I'm pretty doubtful that 500,000 will make a big enough difference keeping in mind how Russia is equipping these conscripts. The most useful thing they could do with them would be to zerg rush Kyiv again in hopes of pulling some of Ukraine's reinforcements away from the Southern/Eastern regions.
>Putin made no announcements about 500k but trust Ukrainians like they have read Putin's mind via telepathy.
this board is more delusional than /uhg/ over at /misc/.
Curb your autism, this thread is about the possibility of them doing it not that it's confirmed they are.
ukie shills basically just make shit up all the time. When I have got them going off-script they stuff like
>battalions "regenerate" losses like in HOI when not engaged in fighting
>Russia has no infantry antitank weapons
>Ukraine has more artillery than Russia
>There is a 10:1 loss ratio of Ukranians to Russians
>Force ratios literally do not matter (lolwut)
>putin iz gonna be couped/has cancer
etc. They're not honest posters, they're shills who cycle a few talking points to try and create a distorted image of the war. If you trip them up they'll just revert to script and start posting war guro and start over again
>"Regeneration"
It's called rotating out a unit, letting it rest for a while, and refreshing its ranks with new men. It's only sorcery to Vatniks.
oy vey we grow back men just like corn trust us we neva have issues with casualties
>ukie shills basically just make shit up all the time.
im sure they do. are Ukies still killing russians? yes? good. then everything is going just fine.
my mail order bride from Ukraine is still on the way. I 100% intend to upload facial abuse pics with a big ol' Z sharpied on my hand for the troons to melt down over. Thanks for drafting her boyfriend to certain death monke
thats nice. i dont engage in such conduct, but i hear people from failed states often indulge in such practices. the way i hear it is you have been ritually humiliated so thoroughly that the only way you cannot feel utterly broken is by victimizing others. there is hope though. maybe the national toilet you call home has something the US wants, and we can colonizer you. you might have to wear a dress for a while.
>Buys Ukrainian mail order bride
>6-8 week delivery time
>She finally arrives!
>Opens cardboard box
>Inside is a deflated blowup doll, a picture of the drones the Ukrainians bought with your money, and note that just says "thx gay".
imagine how mad this board is going to get when I upload a picture getting sucked off with my gun in the foreground and a big Z on the stock
You'll have to post pictures when she shows up in just two more weeks.
Well, you won't be posting on this board for a few weeks after the next Russian front collapse occurs, so it will have to be after that.
>my evidence i'm not a braindead gullible moron is a twitter shot of a twitter shot of literal whos venting off their opinions which i take at face value
>Russia has no infantry antitank weapons
That's true and Anglin is israeli.
They do have some, but it doesn't have a great track record
>eddym87861638
very organic not at all trollfarm twitter user chiming in
>"Don't trust the media!" and his evidence is some Twitter screencap with a definitely organic tweet from a NameNumber account with awful grammar
>cannot actually respond to the post but instead deflects because it's right on the money
I like the Anglin post because it accurately reflects talking to these homosexuals. There is usually zero factual basis and they make shit up all the time. Especially Ukranian losses
>There is usually zero factual basis
him quoting a literal glavset twitter account pretending to be german is a factual basis for judging the situation in germany?
>There is usually zero factual basis and they make shit up all the time
ok, provide a "factual basis" that makes this statement
>Russia has no infantry antitank weapons
wrong.
>NOOOOOO IGNORE MY SOURCE AND ACCEPT THE NARRATIVE PROVIDED, QUESTIONING ME IS A FALLACY NO ITS NOT ALLOWED NON O NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>battalions "regenerate" losses like in HOI when not engaged in fighting
What's it like being as dumb as you are?
ah yes comrade "First name + random numbers" with no profile picture can personally attest that to defy the will of the glorious Russian empire is to bring despair and destruction upon yourself. i have been demoralized comrades, i must be of demanding at once we cease all support to the ukranian rebels and demand a peaceful resolution on President Putin's terms
has no infantry antitank weapons
This honestly seems to be true, where did all the fancy RPG-29s go?
is a 10:1 loss ratio of Ukranians to Russians
Also true, cry more.
the loss ratio is 100,000 to 100,000 give or take. 1:1
Cope
direct figures from usgov and repeated by nato before they started trying to backpedal
I’m genuinely awestruck that you put that pic up, it’s literally nested copium
First it’s a Twitter post (lol)
Second it’s of Anglin (btw why do every anti-democracy homie be looking like Humpty Dumpty?)
Third Anglin himself is posting another Twitter thread
Fourth the ‘own” in the latter is a faceless account with what looks like an auto generated name posting Rus copium bullshit
What shill farm doing?!?
oh nooo, i totally agree, first name + random numbers on twitter is totally right, i'm german and i am totally freezing in this *looks outside* 10°C with no snow or similar harsh weather conditions having fallen during the entirety of winter, pleaaaaase help us russia its so unbearabale uuuuoooooowowowowowoh
>this board is more delusional than /uhg
not even close, ukraine can be discusssed critically here (except for the uhg fugitives) whereas any comment that breaks the ukraine wienersucking dogma on uhg gets you labeled vatBlack person
Maybe.
Maybe they are willing to pay the price of their Tsar’s imperialism, while scrapping their graveyards off their 1960s soviet crap.
But the Ukrainians are willing to pay the price of freedom while equiped with western gear from a dozen of the richest countries.
What choice Russia offers to them? Dying with weapons in their hands or raped and tortured to death in a basement.
Frick the Russian hordes of slaves.
Frick their bloody senile dictator.
And frick the warmongering America too.
Discovering the torture rooms meant for CHILDREN alone has no doubt filled the Ukrainian hearts with absolute hatred for the Vatnik invader.
But hey, Russians have a talent for making Ukrainians fricking hate them.
>That day, Anastasia, a medical nurse and masseuse at the home, arrived at the home to find strange vehicles and people she did not recognize in front of the property.
>“When I entered the premises, [another nurse] tells me ‘Probably today they will be deporting the children,’” Anastasia, who requested to use an alias for security reasons, told The Daily Beast.
>Anastasia found a moment to slip out of the home before Russian authorities arrived to carry out the deportation. But a video of the event that was posted to Telegram by a Russian official in Kherson showed women taking young children out of the home and loading them onto two buses that were accompanied by ambulances, several men in fatigues including at least one heavily armed soldier, and a Russian political party official. The video shows the official kissing one of the children, and ends with the convoy of vehicles pulling out of the home’s gate, leaving the property empty.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-46-ukraine-toddlers-were-disappeared-by-putin-in-one-fell-swoop
I used to be more apprehensive about hating russians as a whole, having bought into the its the leadership, not the people meme but no. They cast, vast majority of them are absolutely vile, disgusting creatures, a cancer upon the planet. Frick them and their wienersucking supporters in the west, traitors all.
I just hope that when this all ends the ukies can can save those kids
America does not warmonger.
America is the symbol for peace and democracy.
Don't make us come to your country and bring you freedom, peasant.
this but unironically
Same level as peacefull muslims claiming Islam means Peace, and if you disagree they will cut your head off.
How effective would a suppressor of that length be and can any ID it?
It honestly is amazing that the general public doesn't hate Russia more at this point. Someone will obviously say "well they're all brainwashed by the mainstream media to hate Russia" but truthfully while the average person if asked would say they dislike Russia, most have a largely apathetic attitude in their day to day life. Russia however has forcibly deported thousands of Ukrainian torture, engaged in horrific acts of torture on film (burning a man's eyes out, raping an infant, castrating a man with a box cutter before JFKing him, etc), and has slaughtered massive amounts of civilians. The moral repungancy of their actions should inspire nothing less then support for the complete annihilation of the Russian state.
I also used to be much more sympathetic towards Ruskies, believing them to be suffering under a tyrant and just wanting to be free. Then a took a class on Russia (tuaght by a Russian citizen and Orthodox Christian) and learned that Russians actually like Putin and support the actions of their government. At this point my attitude is that the Russian people will get what they wanted and they will get it good and hard
>obviously bong
>post ends with seethe about Americans
awesome
noooo russia will collapse in two weeks i swear
>using the "two weeks" meme as a vatnik
do you morons need to steal everything? even memes?
Stubbornness can only win wars for a defender, a stubborn attacker will just bleed a lot then lose anyway.
>their country will be knocked out of the great powers.
>but they are willing to pay that.
Restoring Russia to USSR-levels of great power is the goal of it all, so no, they (well, Putin, the one who matters) are not prepared to pay that.
how the ukraine/nafo shill talks:
>[foreign aid fixation] HIMARS HIMARS HIMARS BRADLY
>[Cherrypicked Guro] KEKEKKEKE RUZZZIA LOOK AT THE DEAD!!
>[whenever a reversal comes up tries to shift the convo to some propaganda victory] KHERSON! SNAKE ISLAND! GHOST OF KIEV! (100% real)
>[strawmans unreasonable objectives] BAHKMUT! 2 WEEKZ TO KIEV!
the purpose is to keep /k/ommandos focused on arguing myopic propaganda talking points rather than getting an accurate concept of the war. NAFO gays aren't even here to change minds so much as shit the place up
go back to /leftypol/, homosexual
>errybody who disagrees is leftypol!
>doesn't dare shill on pol because he knows he'd get btfo
post gunz
/misc/ = /leftypol/
Also, you're brown and gay.
are you literally moronic
No, I'm not a brown satanic thirdworlder who hates white people.
I'm truly disappointed how many Thirdies support Russia. This is the most BLATANT war of genocidal IMPERIAL conquest in recent history, and they are buying into Putin's ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT?!
Anti-imperialism my ass.
You now understand that they were never mad at the imperialism, they were just mad that they didn't get to be the imperialists
>doesn't dare shill on pol because he knows he'd get btfo
Yes that's real reason why people aren't posting on leftypol.
Fricking thirdies...
I'm white and own a firearm. If you don't meet either of those criterion you're not worthy of this site
>I'm white and own a firearm.
🙂
Trannies can't answer my simple question without deflecting
>Are you white?
>Do you own a Firearm?
If no; gtfo
>Trannies
shoo shoo tourist
>I'm white and own a firearm.
Sure, Rajesh.
Most pro-Russia people are like that, yes.
>[strawmans unreasonable objectives] BAHKMUT!
So a guy (who is whining about nafo, natch) admits that Bakhmut is an "unreasonable objective"?
Good to know.
>foreign aid fixation
Foreign aid is why Ukraine is going to win so it makes sense to fixate on it. The equipment needed to stop tanks and planes is specialized and expensive, and Russia can't make as much of it as the west.
Oh for frick's sake, do you ever read my posts? I hammer the same basic points home over and over.
nobody ever reads your posts you schizophrenic moron
And yet Vatniks remember me enough to invoke my RETIRED name, rent-free, lol.
>noo that wasn't me that was my vatnik personality
you aren't fooling anybody you deranged schizo
>that pic
all me btw
I really like this post because it describes all vatBlack person shilling to a tee, though as usual, with the labels conveniently switched.
The people posting unironically “two more weeks” have been you shilling homosexuals ever since Kherson fell, we’ve been parodying it because of how fricking stupid you are.
>[strawmans unreasonable objectives] BAHKMUT! 2 WEEKZ TO KIEV!
But i thought this was a reunification war to unite the ukrainian people and russia and to denazificate ukraine with their satanic LGBT black magic? bahghdad fell in 21 days. 2 more weeks!
tell me, do you spend a lot of your free time in random gay discords?
I wonder why...
Do you remember 3rd army corps?
I don't.
They nearly lost control of Dagestan in their initial push to mobilize 300k, so how do you think the population is going to react to a mobilization of 500k only a few short months later when Russia’s lot in the war still hasn’t improved and most civilians now know how poorly mobiks are treated and outfitted? There’s a reason the monke waited so long to mobilize and it’s because he fears he’s going to incite mass riots by the moms who still love their godforsaken Russian sons.
Russia is reaching the limits of how much it can mobilize without serious unrest.
Ukraine is that unassuming guy in the suit who nobody thinks is a military threat, but totally is.
exactly how much Charles Offdenson BL is out there? Seems like there would be a lot.
He's got a lot of artwork, being the ensemble darkhorse of the show.
>Russia is reaching the limits of how much it can mobilize without serious unrest.
Nah, it can use much more force. Russians crave harsh masters and if Putin is smart enough to go full Stalin the nationalist will suckle his wiener like starving Serbs.
"Have you ever tried living your life and not sucking dick?"
This is the shit that revolutions are born from. Hoping we all get up watch another October Revolution except even more despair from the common Ruskies.
It's most likely to happen from the ethnic minorities this time in Russia. That mobilization hit them hard.
They're dispersed, distant, poor and weak. Centuries of Kremlin masters have expended them and one benefit of their dying first is that removes potential fighters.
Problem for Putin is that enough of them survive to be a political problem.
i just don't see putin ever giving up on power the way gorbachev did. he has moscow filled with so many loyal police and secret police that it seems unlikely any revolution will take place there. seems more likely to me that kremlin will more or less lose control of anything that isn't saint petersburg and moscow, and russia will mostly entropy into nothing and become governed by gangsters once more. maybe if putin becomes unable to extract wealth from his surroundings then maybe things will just flat out collapse
So in a week I can open an offtopic thread, post this and laugh at morons when it doesn't happen?
Will I get banned for offtopic threads? Because nobody seems to be.
We're gonna find out real fast whether you're right or not
when is these supposed winter offensives supposed to launch anyway?
i believe this. makes sense to concentrate most force around melitopol. losing that would be a disaster. which is why i think the ukies will attack somewhere else.
>when is these supposed winter offensives supposed to launch anyway?
the ground still has not frozen solid.
The only question then is.....who attacks first? Ukraine or Russia?
Ukraine, Russia has lost the capacity for major offensive actions
>the ground still has not frozen solid.
ive been watching the weather reports. there was a couple of days of -10C. but its been hovering around the slush zone for weeks. when the frick does it get cold in ukraine?
atacks might occur based on local weather conditions.
What if there is basically NO time where the ground freezes long enough for an offensive?
Of all the vehicles available to either side which has previously PROVEN itself best in muddy conditions? Tracks supposedly work in mud but most seem roadbound in this war.
MT-LB
>find out real fast
Not necessarily, it might take years but they have no way to win a war of equipment attrition against the west so when they didn't win fast they guaranteed eventual defeat. All that's left is the question how long they want to turn blood into cope.
we're gonna see chain guns firing canister shot by the end of the year aren't we?
>i think russia is going to win.
>they are proving that they are going to pay the price to win.
>they can pay 500,000
>and another 500,000
>and another 500,000 after that.
>their country will be knocked out of the great powers.
>but they are willing to pay that.
Uh, must I point out enough Ukrainian civilians fricking HATE you? More than enough to form an endless insurgency?
Because they formed an endless insurgency in the occupied territories right? Wait....
>but x railroad blowup/carbomb/whatever
The people who did that are not locals. Maybe if Russia took Kiev they would rise up but they didn't
How do you think Kherson became so hard for Russia to hold?
Partisans. They endlessly harassed collaborators and occupiers.
No??? It was HIMARS blowing the only two bridges across the Dnipro. The collaborators that blew up were products of the sbu doing its job, not some local deciding to take matters into his own hands
Funny, that's not what the partisans say.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-kherson-partisan-killings/32160431.html
First off the first guy they are interviewing in tht is insane and should be committed doing stuff like that and saying you feel good about it is gross.
Anyway you know damn well this is an isolated case and this isn't happening anywhere else that guy was literally a psychopath. The things that actually impact the war like railroad sabotage or blowing up collaborators are sbu ops. Now if you want to count informers as partisans than sure theres mass partisan ewarfare but I wasn't thinking about that
Nonsense. We can tell you were never in such a situation so you revert to over-socialized programming. Why is it not righteous and good to slay evil? It really is that simple.
>"I do not like the phrase 'a good Russian is a dead Russian,' though," he said after a silence, adding that most of the Russian soldiers who rode in his taxi "were brainwashed by propaganda" and "had no choice but to serve in the army."
>"War is an evil thing and there is nothing good about death," he said, parking his car next to the Antonivskiy Bridge, which spanned the Dnieper but had been destroyed by the retreating Russians a couple of days earlier.
literally the same article interviewing a normal dude informer that had 10000x more impact than the psycho who would look for drunk soldiers to stab to death. its not normal to feel joyful about killing anyone and it takes a toddlers brain to realize that random russian soldiers are not hanging out with putin and talking about how they should bomb kiev more or something. also dont equate your moral code to mine. i dont like seeing anyone die regardless of "social programming" and if you do then its probably a result of 100s of hours of liveleak damaging your brain
>the Russian troops don't want to be here either, they are brainwashed or have no choice!
They are still the ones firing artillery into urban centers, raping people and commenting atrocities. All on the name of violent regieme change that wants to subject the country to Putin/Moscow control.
>if you do then its probably a result of 100s of hours of liveleak damaging your brain
I think it's quite the opposite. I share the notion that death is neither good, nor necessary, and I've been in damn near every gore thread in the last 10 years.
I think it's the kids who've never actually seen real carnage that are the most hungry for it. Can't blame em anymore, social media bleeps out words like
>Death
>Kill
>murder
>rape
But leaves full blown cursing and sex right out in the open. These kids are being given a violence fetish, and it's the result of making aggression taboo.
sure man, if anything russia has done well in this war so far, it's how they well they understand ukrainians
They barely have 500 tanks left even T-62s in the north east of Ukraine. That's why they are attacking bakhmut because they own the built up ground next to it. to attack over open ground with mostly infantry is suicide.
Most of the tanks I think between 1000-1500 are in the south. 3-4 divisions worth.
You are assuming that Ukies are not going to do anything about it.
Ukies are already training 1 million more men for the fight. That is why the forbid them to leave at the very beginning of the war.
Officers and specialists are training in the west and they will have the best equipment on the world and the best training to use it.
It's going to be a very high price for Russia. This is not Afghanistan or Vietnam, with poorly equipped farmers hiding in the terrain. They are going to have a WW2 level of pounding coming their way, but there is no Western supplies and no massive re-enforcement coming from the east this time.
They will never recover if they don't leave.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/14/pictures-british-troops-train-ukrainian-army-recruits-combat/
>2 million Ukrainians
They should be able to get to 3 million by the start of next year, at this rate.
x above them are brigades. l = a company, ll = a battalion, lll = a regiment
I am going to be pro-vatnik if Russia fully takes Bakhmut because Ukraine told us from now on one Ukrainian city won't get captured again.
Russia won't. Signs are Wagner's leader is preparing to pin the resulting failure on Russia's regular military.
>Ukrainian city
>city
Bakhmut, the israeliteel of the east, the Jerusalem of Orthodox Christians, the Constantinople of Ukraine.
>lose Bakmut to Russia
>hehe it was a Russian city anyways so it doesnt count :^)
>we never wanted those Russian citizens anyways :^)
>their country will be knocked out of the great powers.
I think NATO is willing to make that trade
OP molests children.
Most of those will be rotation units and very few, a couple thousand maybe, will actually be at the frontlines. They'd need about 800 000 conscripts in order to have a meaningful increase of manpower on the front. If they are fully equipped and properly trained of course. They could mobilize 1 million men and send them to Ukraine if "they are willing to pay the price" but the fact that they haven't declared full mobilization is a clear indicator that they aren't willing to. They're rotating out exhausted units, replenishing casualties, and will stick to attrition warfare because that's all they can do.
I'm of the opinion they probably will win if only through attrition, but any victory will be bittersweet. At best, Russia will become a increasingly isolationist propaganda state exactly like the Norks, barely holding it together. Worst, the federation collapses and/or Chinese worm their way into Russian society to undermine and erode them into a future vassal state. Bowing down to the bugmen, a fate worse than death.
>Russia is willingly to pay any price for victory.
>Loses anyway.
guys we are going to have to call on the alliance of NAFO, reddit and /uhg/ to fight off /chug/ when they shitpost here that bakhmut has fallen so be ready.
nafospammer sucks donkey wieners
/k/ is NAFO territory since February 2022.
we are not that gay anon.
>their country will be knocked out of the great powers.
>but they are willing to pay that.
So national suicide by cop is a victory if you manage to beat your national ex-wife into a coma in the process?
>conscripts
lol
5000 of those wagner mercenary Black folk are worth more than 50,000 drunk russian meth head conscripts
Russia doesn't really win wars.
Except ww2 where their human wave attacks were aided by US air power, fuel, equipment, food.
The copium is so thick here I almost passed out, holy shit.
Even if Ukraine surrenders RIGHT NOW, Russia's economy is fricked.
All of their men have either died in the war, fled Russia to avoid the war, or broken their limbs to avoid the war.
Now they're facing the same problem as China, where the majority of their population will be retired people, creating a massive recession.
No matter what happens in Ukraine, Russia loses. They wasted a shitload of money, resources, political leverage, and good men.
oy vey da sanctions will stop Putlerrrr
>aging population below replacement
exactly the same as the west?
The difference is that people are willing to actually immigrate to the West.
Meanwhile, Russians and Chinks wanna get the frick out ASAP since they know that their nations are shit.
The West may be Garbage, but at least it's recyclable garbage.
multicultural societies have huge problems associated with them and that box isn't even open yet
>https://pdfhost.io/v/Ai.TNQcgj_v10_Biological_Ethnocentrism_The_Negative_Impact_of_Racial_and_Ethnic_Diversity_Upon_Societies_and_Individuals_Final.pdf
if memory serves the eastern nations have the exact same fertility problem as the west and are below replacement
>if memory serves the eastern nations have the exact same fertility problem as the west and are below replacement
currently true, but unlike Western Europe, the East has a lot more people of child bearing age to have kids.
They're still showing to be more stable than the societies with only one ethnicity, so long as the immigrants can properly integrate.
The problems in the West are mostly caused by a poor economy, meanwhile the problems plaguing the East are because they treat their people like an easily disposable resource instead of, well, people.
The fact that people are still willing to immigrate to America despite how shit things have been here whilst NOBODY wants to immigrate to Russia or China is telling for which nation is more stable.
>more stable than societies with only one ethnicity
>your source? There isn't one
exactly the opposite is true. Multiracialism has been the cause of nearly every modern armed conflict or war. What people call "integration" is genetic admixture. Populations admixing a small number of migrants is simple enough; when large numbers are imported enmasse huge racial-political clefts begin to form and that's exactly what diversity inc is doing
eastern europe doesn't have kids because they can't afford them
only the EU and Changs. The rest of the West and Eastern Europe are still having kids.
>All of their men have either died in the war, fled Russia to avoid the war, or broken their limbs to avoid the war.
You're talking about perhaps 2% of the population here. Absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.
>You're talking about perhaps 2% of the population here. Absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Pic related. They already didn't have enough men to service their women, now its even worse with 100k+ KIA by the Ukes.
It's okay, Chinamen will service their women.
Chinaman can't even service his own women, what are they gonna do with females that are akin to bears on bathsalts?
Floridaman will service the Russian women
The very chart you posted yourself shows that there's an excess of men in every age group below 35, which are the most relevant cohorts for babymaking. It's only above 35 when enough men of a generation have died from work accidents, alcoholism, other poor health conditions, etc that an excess of women (now hags) comes to pass.
That said, neither Russia nor Ukraine can afford to lose any military age men and the war will only exacerbate their already apocalyptic demographics. Unless Putin intends to create state sponsored rape and breeding farms for female slav zoomers, I have no idea how Russia intends to reverse this trend. Russian fertility isn't quite as bad as it was immediately after the Soviet collapse, but it's still way below replacement. And the territories Putin intends to conquer have the exact same problem but even worse. Ukrainian population numbers have already gone down 20% since 1990 with no end to their demographic crisis in sight.
Then again, I suppose that's a problem Putin doesn't have to personally worry about, since he's already at death's door anyway. His successors are sure to be grateful to inherit such a putrid rotten corpse of a former Empire.
>i think russia is going to win.
Very questionable outcome. Ukraine is only getting more and more support from the free world in the form of weapons and intelligence. If they really start running low on troops, they'll just start employing foreign PMCs (proper ones, not fools like Wagner).
>their country will be knocked out of the great powers.
Anon, they won't just lose their status as a great power (though I would personally argue that they already lost that status long ago). They are going to lose their entire country. Their demographics are in the toilet, and losing even more men on the frontline in Ukraine will cause their country to collapse even faster. There is no long-term winning for Russia if they keep this up.
>they can pay 500,000
>and another 500,000
>and another 500,000 after that.
I've read this novel series before, and spoiler: the Church still loses the war in the end
is this like the third world rotation of nafogays on night shift or something. necroing a very dead thread
dude it's been hours and you're still sucking donkey wieners
>500,000
Bitch, they didn't even managed their 300k "partial" mobilization.
Okay, what did Ukies do now? Did the salty mines became Wagner's grave?
How are they even going to house those troops, let alone feed or arm them?
What does it do to the russian economy if the mobilize that many people?
How exactly are they going to win?
Amusing that russians would think that as "win"
just like they took huge parts of ukraine last time they moooobilized 300k, right.
Now I'm sure they will take 200k worth of more territory right?
Going by that they will need to moobilize every single man woman and child in russia including putler in order to still lose the war by pre 2014 borders.
Because Russia is too scared to use real effective weapons like chemical and nuclear weapons against a near peer adversary.
Post more russians winning.
shiiiiiiiiiiet, wrong day
More russian victories against artillery strikes.
Russia can't win.
Simple as.
Their military can't even capture Ukraine, which for a competent military should be the "easy" part.
The idea that they could occupy/pacify/police it?
lol. lmao. no.
>Russia can't pacify Ukraine
latest /k/ope on par with the ww2 shit
>send in riot cops amidst first wave thinking Ukraine will surrender
>it fricking doesn't
>start throwing explosives at civilians instead
>they still fricking haven't
wew lad
>maiden is the same as an insurgency
My post describes events post 2021, not prior.
>reading comprehension
which doubtlessly has no relevance to the discussion at all. Sorry I don't keep up with leddit fake news shit
So they are taking the british empire rout to kill Germany
I hope that Russia wins, makes peace with NATO and both sides unite and exterminate poolacks
I have bad news, hombre. Russians are the new poolack.
frick off with these slide replies back to /chug/
Have the polacks done their best to sabotage the world economy? Commit genocide against white Christians? Pledge allegiance to Ping & Kim?
Yeah, no.
The poolack is your friend. He dreams of killing Russians in their beds.
>Have the polacks done their best to sabotage the world economy?
Yes. They are leeching gibs from white countries and give nothing in return
> Commit genocide against white Christians?
Yes. They were killing German civilians in the 1930s and started ww2
> Pledge allegiance to Ping & Kim?
Yes
Brown hands typed this
>Yes. They were killing German civilians in the 1930s and started ww2
Wasn't it supposed to be DA JOOOOOOOOOZZZ?
Anyways, whoever did that is based beyond belief. All the Mongolic kraut sub-human huns had to be put in their place, and they were. Now they're nice, docile little Europeans.
Cope poolack. Soon you will be history
Even the 3rd world savage that has no idea what civilisation in, is worth more than a poolack
I lowkey agree.
Russia will completely destroy their future for a little gain.
They have a history of doing that and i mean before ussr. Its all learned in schools and lives in peoples minds
>they are proving that they are going to pay the price to win
How are they proving it? Support for the war dropped from 80% to 30% with the first wave of mobilization, before the corpses started returning.
deaths russian army: ukranian army is 6:1
deaths: wounded
russian army 1:2
ukranian army 1:4
A ukranian 15,000 dead with 60,000 wounded (some fully recovered) and russian 90,000 dead and 170,000 wounded is fully compatible with what we are seeing, and is in line with EU numbers and US numbers.
After mobilizing extra 100,000 regular reserves from april till august, the Russian army has 100,000 regulars left in Ukranine and 100,00 mobiks, and putting in another 100,000 mobiks now. They lost 1/3 of mobiks in 2 months to different reasons such as mobik jumping on another mobik's leg. They are losing 500-1000 dead a day and same that in wounded, only goes 1:2 when losing a front.
the ukranians need weapons that kill faster than artillery and 226mm rockets.
I can fix that.
*assign most of the russian casualties to mercenary groups and private armies*
Ukraine:Russia 1:1
There, it looks better now.
t. Accountant/Auditor
not true, my numbers don't count wagner scum
ukies hate it because it's true. If that's accurate they're only operating with slightly over half their army
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-russia-von-der-leyen-death-toll-1763553
>von-der-leyen
>if I ignore the article, it'll go away
US army guys have said the same
This is just a pointless waste of life. Why don't the russians frag their officers? Why aren't there more people like zinan?
Because their holy mission is to exterminate hohols.
i thought russians and ukrainians were brothers?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/israeli_Autonomous_Oblast
Imma just leave this here for all you antisemitic Vatniks....
That fricking flag though lmao
>Can't take bakhmut after 8 months of trying
Yeah, Russia probably isn't going to win the war, OP
So based on previous muttBlack person cope records and scaling of muttBlack person projections, that means mutts lost 50,000 conscripts just to keep bakmutt occupied and slow down those wagner mercs with human wave tactics
consult a doctor
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