According to Ben Wallace the UK defence minister the Belfast factory that makes NLAW and Starstreak has been flooded with enquiries but the main problem is making them fast enough. Getting hold of these fantastic UK weapons is harder than getting a PS5. Suspect you'll be seeing a lot more of these two soon.
John Delorean couldn't get those piss-soaked Irishmen slapping together cars on a mountain of cocaine and promises of a future, I doubt Belfast can pull off an increase of 'production' of high-tech missiles.
The Ukrainian minister of defense confirmed that a stinger took down an su-30. Why hasn’t the starstreak managed to down any fast movers?
https://sys.PrepHole.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kyivpost.com%2Frussias-war%2Fwatch-video-shows-moment-russian-jet-shot-down-over-ukraine.html
It’s not fire and forget like the stinger its manually guided. It’s no good against anything fast moving because the operator has to continually paint the target with the launcher
This has to be cap. There’s no way the UK would design a non fire and forget MANPADS. That time keeping the launcher on target would leave the shooter extremely exposed
Unlike stinger, piorun and igla, starstreak uses a low visibility launch propellant, so the worry about exposure is less of a issue because it wont be spotted by a fricking bright white visible trail anyway like nearly all other manpads are.
>It’s not fire and forget like the stinger its manually guided
SACLOS isn't manual guidance, that's MCLOS. All the operator has to do is keep the weapon pointed in the rough direction of the target and the missile and base unit do the rest. At mach 4 engagement speeds are similar to that of a rifle bullet or tank round, plus you are immune to all modern decoys. Insane levels of accuracy and high probability of kill. We've all seen the videos of stinger getting spoofed into clouds of flares from the first week of the invasion.
>All the operator has to do is keep the weapon pointed in the rough direction of the target and the missile and base unit do the rest
That’s a huge flaw right there.
It's better than having to shoot a second missile because the first missed, oh wait too late he's now out of your tiny range. plus lets be real, MANPAD operators are't at risk of getting shot by their targets in the same way ATGM operators are. Most of the time the pilot is completely oblivious and unable to fight back against a guy on the ground with a missile.
Stinger is so slow that it doesn't even have the energy to engage high speed manoeuvring targets at range. Unlike Starstreak which can hit 9g targets at a max range twice that of stinger.
Then why have there been so many more stinger kills reported by the military than starstreak? Is it just because there are more stingers in the AO? I know IGLA is the most numerous but idk about the starstreak numbers
1 year ago
Anonymous
More stingers around probably. I don’t know why you guys fight so hard both missiles are capable and both have done well in Ukraine.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Numbers wise statistically the Stinger is by far the worst performing manpad in Ukraine.
1. Igla
3. Martlet
4. Piorun
5. Starstreak
6. Strela
7. Stinger
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Numbers wise statistically the Stinger is by far the worst performing manpad in Ukraine.
Can you back that up with anything other than seethe and envy? Stinger shot down an su-30, no other MANPADS did
1 year ago
Anonymous
It’s killed missiles, nets, helicopters, and drones. Post the statistics you are referring to
I'll leave it to you to inform yourself and make an educated decision. Until then, stay mad and make a Warriorthread.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No you made the claim about statistics. What numbers were you looking at. Share the information if you want to be taken seriously
1 year ago
Anonymous
I was just saying that because I don’t like stinger. Jesus Christ get a fricking life
1 year ago
Anonymous
I was just saying that because I don’t like stinger. Jesus Christ get a fricking life
>Samegayging when mad
Aww isnt he cute
1 year ago
Anonymous
I’m a third party who is also interested in how the poster of
Numbers wise statistically the Stinger is by far the worst performing manpad in Ukraine.
1. Igla
3. Martlet
4. Piorun
5. Starstreak
6. Strela
7. Stinger
came by those numbers.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I am also a third party from warrior oblast who is curious to see these numbers
1 year ago
Anonymous
It’s killed missiles, nets, helicopters, and drones. Post the statistics you are referring to
>We've all seen the videos of stinger getting spoofed into clouds of flares from the first week of the invasion.
I haven’t. Please post them. It’s only fair to post the bad parts of stinger as well. Even if it’s been duped the fact that stinger has kills on missiles and jets is pretty telling
I don't think stinger has even gotten to 12 kills total, let alone in a month. It's really not in the same league, must be why the DoD calls stinger obsolescent.
It only has to be fast enough to shoot down jets and missiles. And since it’s done that it’s speed isn’t an issue. I bet you think the mig-25 is the best jet because it’s the fastest
samegay copegay imagine being happy with a small NEZ. I bet you're like 5ft 6 lmao
It was a su-30 killed by a stinger.
Also cool video. I love seeing starstreak videos from that setup. Looks super fricking comfy chilling in there and downing drones and shit all day
1 year ago
Anonymous
The vehicle mounted version also a has a sweet passive horizon scanning system to alert the operator of incoming targets. Just got to sit inside and cycle through things until you see something you want dead, push a button and the system does the rest.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Neat. MANPADS/ shorad are very interesting to me. Ever since I was in the marines and a LAAD team was attatched to my rifle platoon I’ve found them to be extremely interesting. Any good video games that can serve as an outlet for my MANPADS autism?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Wargame red dragon or it's less arcadey (and less fun) sequal WARNO?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Thanks
1 year ago
Anonymous
Definitely looks like a 30. I’m willing to believe the defense minister
1 year ago
Anonymous
No it’s piorun and an su-57
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's less than 12. Post 12 here so that you can match Starstreak's one month total. You can't, don't even try. So just say sorry to starstreak.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why would I say sorry? I’ve never said a bad word about starstreak? Are you feeling ok
1 year ago
Anonymous
see
https://i.imgur.com/iNJDBCw.png
Why can't you say sorry to starstreak?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yea I get that but why do you think I made those threads or this thread. I like the fim-92 and startstreak. In fact all MANPADS tickle my pickle
It only has to be fast enough to shoot down jets and missiles. And since it’s done that it’s speed isn’t an issue. I bet you think the mig-25 is the best jet because it’s the fastest
If you’re a Russian pilot, what’s your best option if you get painted by a Starstreak system and a missile is launched?
If flares don’t work, do you just have to take evasive manoeuvres and beg that it works?
Counter intuitively show it your ass and hope that the penetrator gets chewed enough or explodes before penetrating your titanium tub and then punch out. That also makes you a smaller target since the system is laser guided
Why can't you say sorry to starstreak?
OP has been done dirty.
Why does warrior live rent free in your head?
Warriortard shill falseflag spam thread 34926
Warriortard is a broken man these days, he spends most of his time pretending to be a South Korean or defending the Stinger
How does it feel to get bonged so hard that you waste away your life trying to troll people we are actually the ones living rent free in your head?
Why haven’t more countries adopted it?
According to Ben Wallace the UK defence minister the Belfast factory that makes NLAW and Starstreak has been flooded with enquiries but the main problem is making them fast enough. Getting hold of these fantastic UK weapons is harder than getting a PS5. Suspect you'll be seeing a lot more of these two soon.
Proof?
John Delorean couldn't get those piss-soaked Irishmen slapping together cars on a mountain of cocaine and promises of a future, I doubt Belfast can pull off an increase of 'production' of high-tech missiles.
This town has other famous constructions.
I watched that video of him, he's a very impressive guy, glad he's remained at defence regardless of who the PM is.
I'm just not impressed is all, anon.
The Ukrainian minister of defense confirmed that a stinger took down an su-30. Why hasn’t the starstreak managed to down any fast movers?
https://sys.PrepHole.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kyivpost.com%2Frussias-war%2Fwatch-video-shows-moment-russian-jet-shot-down-over-ukraine.html
It’s not fire and forget like the stinger its manually guided. It’s no good against anything fast moving because the operator has to continually paint the target with the launcher
This has to be cap. There’s no way the UK would design a non fire and forget MANPADS. That time keeping the launcher on target would leave the shooter extremely exposed
He is talking about the stinger. Not SS.
Stinger is fire and forget I don’t think he’s posting about stinger. He’s probably referring to the saclos ss
Unlike stinger, piorun and igla, starstreak uses a low visibility launch propellant, so the worry about exposure is less of a issue because it wont be spotted by a fricking bright white visible trail anyway like nearly all other manpads are.
>It’s not fire and forget like the stinger its manually guided
SACLOS isn't manual guidance, that's MCLOS. All the operator has to do is keep the weapon pointed in the rough direction of the target and the missile and base unit do the rest. At mach 4 engagement speeds are similar to that of a rifle bullet or tank round, plus you are immune to all modern decoys. Insane levels of accuracy and high probability of kill. We've all seen the videos of stinger getting spoofed into clouds of flares from the first week of the invasion.
>All the operator has to do is keep the weapon pointed in the rough direction of the target and the missile and base unit do the rest
That’s a huge flaw right there.
It's better than having to shoot a second missile because the first missed, oh wait too late he's now out of your tiny range. plus lets be real, MANPAD operators are't at risk of getting shot by their targets in the same way ATGM operators are. Most of the time the pilot is completely oblivious and unable to fight back against a guy on the ground with a missile.
Stinger is so slow that it doesn't even have the energy to engage high speed manoeuvring targets at range. Unlike Starstreak which can hit 9g targets at a max range twice that of stinger.
stinger just isn't very good.
Then why have there been so many more stinger kills reported by the military than starstreak? Is it just because there are more stingers in the AO? I know IGLA is the most numerous but idk about the starstreak numbers
More stingers around probably. I don’t know why you guys fight so hard both missiles are capable and both have done well in Ukraine.
Numbers wise statistically the Stinger is by far the worst performing manpad in Ukraine.
1. Igla
3. Martlet
4. Piorun
5. Starstreak
6. Strela
7. Stinger
>Numbers wise statistically the Stinger is by far the worst performing manpad in Ukraine.
Can you back that up with anything other than seethe and envy? Stinger shot down an su-30, no other MANPADS did
I'll leave it to you to inform yourself and make an educated decision. Until then, stay mad and make a Warriorthread.
No you made the claim about statistics. What numbers were you looking at. Share the information if you want to be taken seriously
I was just saying that because I don’t like stinger. Jesus Christ get a fricking life
>Samegayging when mad
Aww isnt he cute
I’m a third party who is also interested in how the poster of
came by those numbers.
I am also a third party from warrior oblast who is curious to see these numbers
It’s killed missiles, nets, helicopters, and drones. Post the statistics you are referring to
>We've all seen the videos of stinger getting spoofed into clouds of flares from the first week of the invasion.
I haven’t. Please post them. It’s only fair to post the bad parts of stinger as well. Even if it’s been duped the fact that stinger has kills on missiles and jets is pretty telling
Starstreak had 12 kills in 4 weeks. Probably up to 100 now if you include martlet kills.
I don't think stinger has even gotten to 12 kills total, let alone in a month. It's really not in the same league, must be why the DoD calls stinger obsolescent.
Why is stinger so slow? I wish i was a Satarstreak speed chad.
Better performance. So far it’s the only MANPADS in Ukraine to kill a su-30. Stinger chads are up big
samegay copegay imagine being happy with a small NEZ. I bet you're like 5ft 6 lmao
>can’t refute stingers success
>I bet you’re short!
Thanks for the concession
Still waiting on you posting 12 stinger kills in total to match Starstreaks one month total. ( don't worry, I know you can't)
Been posted in another thread
Now it’s your turn to match stingers success. Post a starstreak kill on a fast jet like the su-30
How long are stingergays going to milk the su30 kill?
It's a starstreak kill, it's also an Su-34 not an Su-30
kek no. The UKranian minister of defense specifically confirmed it as a stinger kill. You’re opinion isn’t changing that.
Not my fault that a defence minster can't tell a 30 from a 34, why can't you?
Also HOT OFF THE PRESS Another Starstreak/Martlet kill video.
>https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1588005838299578371?s=20&t=creIFZHfkxFZgY6ZWN0yAg
It was a su-30 killed by a stinger.
Also cool video. I love seeing starstreak videos from that setup. Looks super fricking comfy chilling in there and downing drones and shit all day
The vehicle mounted version also a has a sweet passive horizon scanning system to alert the operator of incoming targets. Just got to sit inside and cycle through things until you see something you want dead, push a button and the system does the rest.
Neat. MANPADS/ shorad are very interesting to me. Ever since I was in the marines and a LAAD team was attatched to my rifle platoon I’ve found them to be extremely interesting. Any good video games that can serve as an outlet for my MANPADS autism?
Wargame red dragon or it's less arcadey (and less fun) sequal WARNO?
Thanks
Definitely looks like a 30. I’m willing to believe the defense minister
No it’s piorun and an su-57
That's less than 12. Post 12 here so that you can match Starstreak's one month total. You can't, don't even try. So just say sorry to starstreak.
Why would I say sorry? I’ve never said a bad word about starstreak? Are you feeling ok
see
Yea I get that but why do you think I made those threads or this thread. I like the fim-92 and startstreak. In fact all MANPADS tickle my pickle
It only has to be fast enough to shoot down jets and missiles. And since it’s done that it’s speed isn’t an issue. I bet you think the mig-25 is the best jet because it’s the fastest
No one appologized yet... Let's get this shit going!
Im sorry starstreak!
My "im sorry starstreak" meme has literally broken this florida cuck. Yes we should all start doing it again.
I'm sorry starstreak.
If you’re a Russian pilot, what’s your best option if you get painted by a Starstreak system and a missile is launched?
If flares don’t work, do you just have to take evasive manoeuvres and beg that it works?
I doubt that Russian pilots even know that any MANPADS are targeting them. Probably more humane for the pilots that way anyway
>If you’re a Russian pilot, what’s your best option if you get painted by a Starstreak system and a missile is launched?
eject
Counter intuitively show it your ass and hope that the penetrator gets chewed enough or explodes before penetrating your titanium tub and then punch out. That also makes you a smaller target since the system is laser guided