I read a green text once of a marine in Afghanistan tricking a tribal elder into giving information by using a glowstick and claiming he'd taken ...

I read a green text once of a marine in Afghanistan tricking a tribal elder into giving information by using a glowstick and claiming he'd taken his soul with it, are there any other stories of the military taking advantage of superstitions? Or just superstitious/paranormal encounters in general.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Thats most likely fake tbh

    Annie Jacobsen's book "Phenomena

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >are there any other stories of the military taking advantage of superstitions?

    Not really a "superstition" but I've heard that in Afghanistan, pointing a gun at someone and demanding information wouldn't get you anything but pulling a knife and threatening them with it, usually worked.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I remember something like that from Iraq.
      Someone with an M4 wouldn't intimidate them, but have someone with a shred of authority and a pistol and they'd be meek as a lamb.
      The given explanation was that during Saddams reign, the rifle wielding grunts weren't the ones to worry about, but the pistol wielders i.e. officers, were the ones that decided wether you lived or died in the next second if they didn't like your tone.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Reminds me of a video where a convoy of humvees is patrolling some urban area in Iraq. Some stupid Iraqi driver keeps bumping into the rear vehicle of the convoy. Turret gunner trains his weapon on the driver and gets no response. Iraqi bumps into them again and gunner draws his M9. Driver hits the brakes and backs up. Might not have gone down exactly like that but it gets the point across.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Or just superstitious/paranormal encounters in general.
          an SA goon wrote a bunch of (probably fake) stories of ghosts in the early 00s. Look at the "50 Foot Ant" ones. (they are not about a giant ant, that's just the dude's username)
          https://nothotbutspicy.com/para/

          Not quite superstitious, but I know in Canada they at some point mandated that ballistic eyewear should not use dark lenses. The kits you get issued come with interchangeable clear, dark, and orange high-contrast lenses. They said to not wear the dark ones when interacting with locals because "They can't see your eyes", but this could be fuddlore (or just unit-level stuff) and was more for PR than superstition. The idea was that dark sunglasses make you look too scary to noncombatants, and they'll sympathize with you better and generally be more cooperative if you look like a helpful nerd instead of a spooky oper8or killmans.

          not really a supersition, but I had an NCO who was in a stinger unit in the beginning of Iraq and they took their normal vehicles over there, but weren't given any missiles.
          They glued soda cans upside down in the missile tubes and when dismounted would have a guy who would point his arm at stuff and the guy controlling the missile point would point it at the same thing so the Iraqis would think he was controlling it with his arm.

          I've heard similar about Iraq. No one gave a shit about having a rifle pointed at them, but if someone pulled out a pistol everyone who scatter.

          >le pistol mean more than le rifle
          this is fuddlore and I've heard a variation about it from every country NATO has fought in since its inception. I've even heard the same thing about gangbangers in both NA and russia, that tooling around with an AK doesn't scare anyone but as soon as you do the bandit shooting stance with a shitty hi-point homies know it's real.

          the only plausible variation I've heard is that because so many people carry rifles around, they're desensitized to them, and have a vague understanding of RoE (and have their own versions of "[heavy weapon] is a warcrime against infantry!!" fuddlore) so they don't react as much to vehicle weapons, but will still flip out if you point ANY personal firearm at them. including rifles. I could believe that one since vehicle weapons are also kinda omnipresent but probably the operator is covered/far away enough and slew around without shooting anything often enough that you can't gauge their intent the same way you can when someone is actively pointing a gun at you specifically.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Dark lenses make you look like a gay to normies or gestapo or some shit. this actually makes sense. Hiding your eyes is disrespectful and demonstrative of mistrust or ignoring social convention

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I never saw any official regs on it, but I heard it from enough people who had actually been to afghanistan that I believe it. But it sounds stupider because the issued glasses we use are fairly transparent from outside even with the dark lenses.

              Mirrored lenses are actually banned by real and easily available regs, for similar reasons. Not only do they make you look like a tryhard doofus, it also ticks off officers who can't see if you're maintaining eye contact.

              One I personally heard (in that my superior tried to write me up on it) that I know for a fact is fuddlore is that the orange lenses are also banned because they're special anti-laser glasses. They aren't, but if you're lucky enough to get brand new peepers instead of re-issued 90 times ones, they come with the full catalog of extra lenses and they do offer some that are anti-laser. But they're red for identification and have special polarizing film. The orange ones are just clear orange plastic like a LEGO piece and don't really do much even as sunglasses.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The story I heard is that with the Iraqi army, the enlisted soliders didn't have the authrotiy to kill civilians, but the officers and ba'athist police did and they just assumed that about Americans and thought whenever a pistol came out shit was getting real.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I could believe it. sounds like it's an inversion of the more western idea of cops with pistols are whatever, but cops with rifles mean SOMEBODY is getting shot today

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      not really a supersition, but I had an NCO who was in a stinger unit in the beginning of Iraq and they took their normal vehicles over there, but weren't given any missiles.
      They glued soda cans upside down in the missile tubes and when dismounted would have a guy who would point his arm at stuff and the guy controlling the missile point would point it at the same thing so the Iraqis would think he was controlling it with his arm.

      I've heard similar about Iraq. No one gave a shit about having a rifle pointed at them, but if someone pulled out a pistol everyone who scatter.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        another one I heard was Iraqs thinking the salt buildup on people's gear and uniforms being ice from their vests being personal A/C units.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I remember something like that from Iraq.
      Someone with an M4 wouldn't intimidate them, but have someone with a shred of authority and a pistol and they'd be meek as a lamb.
      The given explanation was that during Saddams reign, the rifle wielding grunts weren't the ones to worry about, but the pistol wielders i.e. officers, were the ones that decided wether you lived or died in the next second if they didn't like your tone.

      Reminds me of a video where a convoy of humvees is patrolling some urban area in Iraq. Some stupid Iraqi driver keeps bumping into the rear vehicle of the convoy. Turret gunner trains his weapon on the driver and gets no response. Iraqi bumps into them again and gunner draws his M9. Driver hits the brakes and backs up. Might not have gone down exactly like that but it gets the point across.

      not really a supersition, but I had an NCO who was in a stinger unit in the beginning of Iraq and they took their normal vehicles over there, but weren't given any missiles.
      They glued soda cans upside down in the missile tubes and when dismounted would have a guy who would point his arm at stuff and the guy controlling the missile point would point it at the same thing so the Iraqis would think he was controlling it with his arm.

      I've heard similar about Iraq. No one gave a shit about having a rifle pointed at them, but if someone pulled out a pistol everyone who scatter.

      It's probably that the further away you get from an identifiable service weapon, the more it feels like a personal attack. Slewing a cannon at you, it's like, "Cute, he's trying to intimidate me. ok :)", it's almost a looney tunes sight gag. Waving an M4 at you is a soldier satisfying his duty and acting in accordance with policy so you should probably listen to him, but the situation is still reasonable and under control. Waving an M9 at you, this guy is genuinely upset and making things personal but still probably understands the gravity of the situation. A knife, this dude is losing his fricking mind and going caveman mode. I think that applies regardless of the context or culture.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >regardless of the context or culture.

        Some cultures are so far gone their internal logics are now inscrutable to genetically intact, modern, progressive actual Humans.

        https://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars

        >Arab political culture is based on a high degree of social stratification, very much like that of the defunct Soviet Union and very much unlike the upwardly mobile, meritocratic, democratic United States.
        >Arab officers do not see any value in sharing information among themselves, let alone with their men. In this they follow the example of their political leaders, who not only withhold information from their own allies, but routinely deceive them. Training in Arab armies reflects this: rather than prepare as much as possible for the multitude of improvised responsibilities that are thrown up in the chaos of battle, Arab soldiers, and their officers, are bound in the narrow functions assigned them by their hierarchy. That this renders them less effective on the battlefield, let alone places their lives at greater risk

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yea no, these kids saw thier parents brains painting the street from guys with handguns and that's what stuck.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's a matter of expectations. No civilian really thinks they'll die from a tank or even a machinegun so they don't view them as really threathening.
        But a pistol? It's a perfectly "enough" weapon to get shot with.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Weirdly they were scared of pistols. You'd have guys riding in the hatch of a LAV pointing pistols at cars to get them out of the way, but they wouldnt budge for an LMG though. Something to do with pistols being used for executions I think.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Knives are just plain intimidating. They've been around long enough that the lizard brain instinctually recognises them as a threat, and nobody wants to touch (or be touched by) the pointy end. It's the reason why they use bayonets for crowd control. The rifle itself may be the more deadly part, but the bayonet is what really makes them keep their distance.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >AI slop image
    >fake and gay story likely from a POG who probably never took a step beyond the fence

    Quality thread OP.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      quality contribution, Pytor

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That movie is so fuggin underrated.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is indeed. It's kind of a British version of "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" in terms of adventure and the casting of two big stars.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not superstitions and I don't recall it exactly, but there was some lenghty intel subtitled recording of two guys trying to figure out how is it possible that planes come from underground (probably just hangar covered by soil). I don't remember details, it might have been just a guy trying to explain it to the tribal elder, but I remember how hilarious it was. They didn't have a clue, like "how comes that the planes have no propellers?", "it goer 1km underground, I saw them building a lift that could raise the whole village", "there is 1000 jets inside" and much more, it went on and on until it wasn't funny anymore, like 10 minutes. Sorry I forgot the most...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      if you live in any military town, you'll hear tons of HOT LORE like this about historic forts and stuff. Supposedly there's secret tunnels under the Halifax harbour, St-Jean has a secret air base under it from the 60s, decorative tanks in parks are totally fully operational and just need a key to start and roll off the monument, all kinds of stupid shit.

      Also there's a reserve army unit in Montreal that has a teeny tiny tank parked outside it just chilling in the parking lot. It's deactivated and decorative and like 50 years old but people always "joke" about that being Canada's strongest MBT whenever they drive past it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The thing to bare in mind about these stories is Afghans for some reason love tell people made up unlikely stories that don't really go anywhere about how they traveled to Khandahar with an onion in their belt which was the style at the time to prevent red mercury poisoning.

      Sometimes its a face/status thing to seem like they are in the know but often they are just fricking with strangers for their own amusement since there's not much to do in rural kunistan province or whatever.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Iraqi people literally called the occupying US soldiers, "the israelites".

    So I guess the best trick of all was the one perpetrated by the US officials who convinced all those troops they were fighting and getting blown up for America and not for Israel.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I heard a story from a buddy that they downloaded pron remotely on a taliban leaders computer and when they called in IT support (along with a bunch of other guys) they blew up the hut

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      and yet Osama himself had a copy of Yoshi's Island on his laptop...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that's my literal favorite game; i knew he and I had something in common

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i wasnt even kidding, one of the things that came out was a shortlist of software on his computer, and among it was a bunch of emulators. one of the roms was yoshis story. iirc the homie was using Snes9x like a real bro

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He also had episodes of Detective Conan which you can watch on the CIA's website

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i wasnt even kidding, one of the things that came out was a shortlist of software on his computer, and among it was a bunch of emulators. one of the roms was yoshis story. iirc the homie was using Snes9x like a real bro

          that's my literal favorite game; i knew he and I had something in common

          and yet Osama himself had a copy of Yoshi's Island on his laptop...

          I heard a story from a buddy that they downloaded pron remotely on a taliban leaders computer and when they called in IT support (along with a bunch of other guys) they blew up the hut

          weren't there kids on the compound with him and his wives? I find it far more likely that he had that stuff to entertain his children than him being some sort of "just like us" weeb

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            probably, but think of the propaganda value! Osama was just like the chud hacker PrepHole!!!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And bleach

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've heard stories that Iraqis/Afganis didn't like Coalition troops wearing sunglasses because they thought they were x-ray specs and all the western dudes were eyefricking their women and teaboys under their burkas

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    death to ai Black folk

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. pilot about to lose his job to wacky algorithms

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not a chem light, but I had a guy who was great at targeting for us. Knew how to use all of the technical doodads.
    We lost power once and brought out tea lights and he didn’t know where the light was coming from. Spent a few minutes thinking it was capturing the sun.
    Weird shit.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Contributing.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Operation wandering soul.
    The yanks flew around in nam blasting this shit on loud speakers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It is the Vietnamese belief that the dead must be buried in their homeland, or their soul will wander aimlessly in pain and suffering. Vietnamese feel that if a person is improperly buried, then their soul wanders constantly.

      The vietnamese are Dark Elves. It makes sense when you think about it.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bacha bazi boys

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Smile sessions?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Technically not military but the CIA faked vampire attacks in the philippines to fight communism
    They'd kill a guy from a patrol of huk fighters, drain him of his blood, and leave him in a spot where he'd get spotted

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