I hope the universe where the XM29 OICW was adopted is doing okay. What do you think they're up to?

I hope the universe where the XM29 OICW was adopted is doing okay. What do you think they're up to?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    posting the opposite of this thread where i'm making the same uninspired joke idk man

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well if eternal darkness is anything to go by, it could be going better

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nu/k/ homosexuals doesn't recognized it
    they thought it was new chink gun

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you think they're up to?
    complaining that their arms are tired from spending all day holding 20lb guns

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would hope they'd have managed to lighten it a bit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but enough about the BAR

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1996 Rifle is way too heavy

        >B-but the BAR is worse

        What a moron

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The XM29 was a lot bigger than it needed to be. Much of the launcher receiver is empty, particularly around the barrel, and front and back of the magwell. In a post-smartphone era the scope only needs to be Acog sized. I think we could make it work, maybe not in 2001 but certainly today.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never understood why everything from that era had to have a plastic shell that made things double the size they should be.
      The Chinks seem to have grasped the idea with theirs, which is still weird in all the wrong places but seems like something you can realistically carry around with you.
      The side by side prototypes I think were cooler, and I say this both from the perspective of this universe and the one where XM29 got actually adopted.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The magazines would probably make reloading a b***h. Wonder how bad this would be if the 20mm had a tube magazine or if they kept the side by side aspect but gave it the bullpup magazine, though honestly in retrospect the KE rifle should have been a bullpup.
        Here is the sleek, spacegat version. If not for the weird magazines I could see this appear in some sci-fi game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The SxS prototypes were even more ergonomically shit though

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably too occupied with the squirrels to post in that reality's version of this thread. Or was that the YF-23 timeline?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We just introduced instantly programmable grenades of different variety, from usual proximity over-the-barrier types, to autonomous suicide grenade drones.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With body armor continually getting better and lighter and being able to reliably stop multiple rounds of 5.56mm (which doesn't tend to cause that bad of BABT), and with UGVs becoming more common and being more robust than people, I can absolutely see these coming back.

    We'll be working on better 20-25mm grenade systems anyhow because direct attack drones will probably use these for infantry until autonomous aiming systems get really really good, good enough to hit targets with bullets when firing down on them from 500-2,500 feet.

    The larger projectile makes wind less of an issue when firing down like that and gives you some margin for error with HE.

    Armor can help with frag but blast waves turning your brain to spaghetti seems very hard to defend against.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Interestingly, pressure waves seem to also be what causes the worst BABT. .308 and .30-06 can snap cadaver's sternums and ribs without penetration, or kill about half the pigs shot in the chest (this was .30-06 out of 24 inch barrels IIRC at near point blank range, but it did kill them without penning).

      What seems to result in death is not the broken bones, which are quite survivable, but the localized pressure waves fricking up organ tissue or disrupting the heart.

      I suppose this is maybe partly the motivation for 6.8mm? Studies on BABT get significant wounds for animals with full powered rounds but 5.56mm not really, and then pistol calibers definitely not.

      Anecdotally, I've seen at least two reports from Afghanistan of soldiers getting broken ribs from non-penning rounds, but I never learned what they were. Probably 7.62x39 just based on probability.

      I imagine that even if some wonder material can stop 12.7mm or 14.5mm your insides are likely fricked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ah right, the pressure waves also collapsed lungs. That was the other big contributor.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    being invaded by the Combine I think

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >teeny tiny barrel
    >ever-increasing engagement ranges

    I think that world replaced it almost immediately when hitting the sandbox, maybe building onto some of the concepts like a ballistic computer, and essentially ending up with current Sig developments we have now with smart scopes and pseudo-battle rifles. Just because that universe made a poor choice doesn't mean they'd stick with it. At best, we'd end up with the same concepts as the airburst munitions but in 40mm. Maybe for how bad the OICW actually turns out to be as a primary infantry rifle, the XM8 project would actually see some love, given it provides a more sensible modular platform than XM29.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What do you think they're up to?
    Shooting up more 'roids to let the poor bastard riflemen actually carry the obese thing.

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