I have seen both Russians and Ukrainians firing howitzers from a very low angel.

I have seen both Russians and Ukrainians firing howitzers from a very low angel.

What is the purpose of using modern howitzers as 18th century canons?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing wrong with that, it's called direct fire and is preferably not done by modern howitzers but there are shells for it. The Soviets had very high velocity field guns much like the AT ones used in WW2, in production, up to like 1980.

    Oh btw "low angle" if used with the max charge can still be like 4 km. It can even be indirect fire if you have a hill or trees in the way.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks that is interesting

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seen Ukraine? Its all flat territory bro.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    US military doctrine defines howitzers as "any cannon artillery capable of both high-angle fire (45° to 90° elevation) and low-angle fire (0° to 45° elevation)"
    I don't see the problem

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have seen both Russians and Ukrainians firing howitzers from a very low angel.

      What is the purpose of using modern howitzers as 18th century canons?

      pretty much all Howitzers used today are actually Gun-Howitzers as they can be used in both direct fire and indirect fire roles.

      I think the VatBlack folk still field Anti-Tank guns.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >45° to 90°
      Hummmm.
      > Sets up 90° firing solution.

      So ... exactly how long does the shell take to return to sender?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not Important comrade
        Is just very skillful shoot and scoot training technique
        If you cant pack up and leave before shell come back home then you fail the test tovarish

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's used in windy conditions, or if you are a skilled ninja rope operator

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        setting gun at 90° doesn't mean it will be 90° in relation to earth if you are at sloped terrain you moron

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Destroying targets you stupid bluegummed streetshitting subSerbian cow worshipper.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You often see 100mm AT guns on both sides - basically a T55 gun on an artillery carriage.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rapira is not much like the D-10, you are speaking out of ignorance

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t know why but Rapira being used in the 21st century is so cool to me somehow.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This seems like a pretty cost-effective thing to have for a lot – a tank for what has to be less than half the cost for any application where you don't have to move it during battle. And moves on roads fast, truck uses less fuel, etc. Defensive emplacements, shoot and scoot, etc.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >scoot
        it's not scooting nowhere, pal

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Soviets had a frickton of direct fire AT cannons lying around as surplus, which is why you see both sides using them because they can still be employed as budget howitzers.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      how long before they bring out the 3-in field gun?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Was probably propaganda bs but i remember people saying they already were a few months ago, there was a video of one being towed behind a truck with a flat tire i believe

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Donbabweans probably already dug some out of some local museum

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        does anyone have the picture of the russians with a centurys old cannon they looted? i think it was Kherson, early in the war

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Reminds me of when I googled a certain artillery peace, because knew came out that Russians were deploying it in Ukraine and the first picture that shows up is from an Artillery museum I've been to in mid 2000

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        any arty that they have ammo for has seen use at this point i think.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, the Soviets unironically believe in direct-fire gun artillery
      Probably cause of the lack of 4km range ATGMs

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >No, the Soviets unironically believe in direct-fire gun artillery
        They BELIEVED in it, and only until it was obvious that a towed artillery piece was going to get destroyed and ATGMs had better penetration anyway. The APFSDS ammunition the F-12 thing fired had only about 225mm of penetration at 1000m where the T-62 was hitting 350mm at 2km.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          They still have direct fire gun battalions today

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but the Russians are moronic, the Soviets at least had a bit of sense. There's going to be a Ukrainian tank commander in a Leopard 2 who suddenly feels oddly German the moment he comes through some bushes and sees a Russian AT gun line.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's just because they are poor and dumb enough to buy into thinking numbers will always win over capability.

              They use them as howitzers for the most part, and then as anti-bunker guns
              Learned it in Grozny I think

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's just because they are poor and dumb enough to buy into thinking numbers will always win over capability.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What is the purpose of using modern howitzers as 18th century canons?
    Cannons are artillery, going back to the days of muskets. Howitzers are just cannons with large, explosive shells that can fire arcs over very long distances. Mortars are the same idea on a smaller scale.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >angel
    HAHAHAHAHA
    Omfg.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    D20 and 30 are very easy and fun to use for direct fire. All you need is a scope. I think the soviets used the rpg on the howitzers too.
    Im sure it's a good tool for bunkers, ambushes on roads and ofc defending the battery pos.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    low angle means faster time to impact

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    direct fire IDF weapons

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    18th to 20th century canons are kino

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

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