I have seen both Russians and Ukrainians firing howitzers from a very low angel.
What is the purpose of using modern howitzers as 18th century canons?
I have seen both Russians and Ukrainians firing howitzers from a very low angel.
I have seen both Russians and Ukrainians firing howitzers from a very low angel.
What is the purpose of using modern howitzers as 18th century canons?
Nothing wrong with that, it's called direct fire and is preferably not done by modern howitzers but there are shells for it. The Soviets had very high velocity field guns much like the AT ones used in WW2, in production, up to like 1980.
Oh btw "low angle" if used with the max charge can still be like 4 km. It can even be indirect fire if you have a hill or trees in the way.
Thanks that is interesting
Seen Ukraine? Its all flat territory bro.
US military doctrine defines howitzers as "any cannon artillery capable of both high-angle fire (45° to 90° elevation) and low-angle fire (0° to 45° elevation)"
I don't see the problem
pretty much all Howitzers used today are actually Gun-Howitzers as they can be used in both direct fire and indirect fire roles.
I think the Vatmorons still field Anti-Tank guns.
>45° to 90°
Hummmm.
> Sets up 90° firing solution.
So ... exactly how long does the shell take to return to sender?
Not Important comrade
Is just very skillful shoot and scoot training technique
If you cant pack up and leave before shell come back home then you fail the test tovarish
It's used in windy conditions, or if you are a skilled ninja rope operator
setting gun at 90° doesn't mean it will be 90° in relation to earth if you are at sloped terrain you retard
Destroying targets you stupid bluegummed streetshitting subSerbian cow worshipper.
You often see 100mm AT guns on both sides - basically a T55 gun on an artillery carriage.
Rapira is not much like the D-10, you are speaking out of ignorance
I don’t know why but Rapira being used in the 21st century is so cool to me somehow.
This seems like a pretty cost-effective thing to have for a lot – a tank for what has to be less than half the cost for any application where you don't have to move it during battle. And moves on roads fast, truck uses less fuel, etc. Defensive emplacements, shoot and scoot, etc.
>scoot
it's not scooting nowhere, pal
The Soviets had a fuckton of direct fire AT cannons lying around as surplus, which is why you see both sides using them because they can still be employed as budget howitzers.
how long before they bring out the 3-in field gun?
Was probably propaganda bs but i remember people saying they already were a few months ago, there was a video of one being towed behind a truck with a flat tire i believe
Donbabweans probably already dug some out of some local museum
does anyone have the picture of the russians with a centurys old cannon they looted? i think it was Kherson, early in the war
Reminds me of when I googled a certain artillery peace, because knew came out that Russians were deploying it in Ukraine and the first picture that shows up is from an Artillery museum I've been to in mid 2000
any arty that they have ammo for has seen use at this point i think.
No, the Soviets unironically believe in direct-fire gun artillery
Probably cause of the lack of 4km range ATGMs
>No, the Soviets unironically believe in direct-fire gun artillery
They BELIEVED in it, and only until it was obvious that a towed artillery piece was going to get destroyed and ATGMs had better penetration anyway. The APFSDS ammunition the F-12 thing fired had only about 225mm of penetration at 1000m where the T-62 was hitting 350mm at 2km.
They still have direct fire gun battalions today
Yeah but the Russians are retarded, the Soviets at least had a bit of sense. There's going to be a Ukrainian tank commander in a Leopard 2 who suddenly feels oddly German the moment he comes through some bushes and sees a Russian AT gun line.
They use them as howitzers for the most part, and then as anti-bunker guns
Learned it in Grozny I think
That's just because they are poor and dumb enough to buy into thinking numbers will always win over capability.
>What is the purpose of using modern howitzers as 18th century canons?
Cannons are artillery, going back to the days of muskets. Howitzers are just cannons with large, explosive shells that can fire arcs over very long distances. Mortars are the same idea on a smaller scale.
>angel
HAHAHAHAHA
Omfg.
D20 and 30 are very easy and fun to use for direct fire. All you need is a scope. I think the soviets used the rpg on the howitzers too.
Im sure it's a good tool for bunkers, ambushes on roads and ofc defending the battery pos.
low angle means faster time to impact
direct fire IDF weapons
18th to 20th century canons are kino
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THAT'S IT CUSHING GIVE EM DOUBLE CANISTER