I have pic related pond on my property and would like to get the water cleaner. Is there anything I can put in it to do so? I want to avoid draining it if possible
I have pic related pond on my property and would like to get the water cleaner.
I have pic related pond on my property and would like to get the water cleaner. Is there anything I can put in it to do so? I want to avoid draining it if possible
Let me fricking google it for you
if you can get power out there a smallish pump will help circulate the water and allow it to remain cleaner naturally.
also, this:
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>Can someone help me with X?
Just Google it moron.
So What is the point of this board?
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You have the option of contributing the change you would like to see, as opposed to joining in critique.
>Some friendly suggestions for posting:
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read the sticky.
Salt. Lots of salt.
Put some laundry detergent in there and swirl it around. Make sure to get the stuff with phosphates in it (it's good for the plants).
Yea OP, just grab your huge spoon to stir it like soup.
on my way to give OP a hand
why? does it stink?
Op don't mix the salt and laundry detergent together it will make mustard gas
Mustard gas has great cleaning propertys though
did you try putting it in rice?
a small pump to oxygenate the water.
you could get a big aquarium pump, attach a hose with tiny small holes in it to let tiny bubbles fizz out and attach the hose to a rock so it will stay under water.
judging from the picture it seems to me that the water is pretty clear already.
this. as neurotic dirt-and-water anon apologized, there's dirt under them thar waterz. With exposure to sun, and fish farting in it, it will only get so clear.
consult a civil engineer to make sure altering the pond won't frick up anything important
t. Rent seeking engineer that's never done anything himself
>just trial and error the wetland bro
fuk ur stupid
sees water near dirt
>wetland
>so i says to the DNR i says
I'm all for "frick you my property i do what i want" but the water cycle ain't yours, bro.
Kek, where I used to live civil engineers diverted water flow from a river to a "better" flood control channel...
that artificial channel required annual dredging under the watchful eyes of civil engineers...
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later on civil engineers approved building along that channel...
after destroying the natural flow of water at the river mouth (actual wetlands) birds including endangered ones began using the flood control channel for nesting...
then under pressure from environmentalists civil engineers stopped dredging that artificial channel because it bothered the birds in what was now declared "wetlands"...but is 100% unnatural..
first big rains a couple years later, massive flooding in homes adjacent to that channel built with assurances that it couldn't happen from civil engineers...
massive_damage_payout.exe
to staunch the flow of damage payouts, authorities order civil engineers to develop solution...
civil engineers "solve" problem by cutting weir in one side of channel opposite homes so channel exit can remain plugged and silty stormwater can flood into adjacent natural harbor entrance...
silt exiting weir reinforces and amplifies effects of natural sandbar at harbor entrance so it too becomes more hazardous with swells running... home flooding along channel is only slightly mitigated in minor rain events.
All because civil engineers fricked with the water cycle and starry eyed morons got mad whenever it was suggested that they and the powers they serve arent the owners of the water cycle who know what's best and get to call anything they want "wetlands", so shut up.
>one time pros failed to see emergent change in ecology
>but i know how to terraform
Stock it with fish.
>starry eyed morons got mad whenever it was suggested that they and the powers they serve arent the owners
Yeah turns out they don't like that.
>natural resources belong to the ordained priests, not to you, peasant
>2nd peasant with his own ideas shows up to the it's-dirt-and-water-not-wetlands hackathon
Simp who wants to be seen as supporting reason and science keeps insisting that a pond he knows nothing about *MUST* be crucial to the natural order, and also that an attempt to improve the water quality is "terraforming" even when it's entirely possible that it's very existence is the result of DIY dirt work by untrained labor....that may orcmay not have even intended to create a reservoir of any kind.
No, it's WETLAND!!!!
>keeps insisting that a pond he knows nothing about *MUST* be crucial to the natural order,
it's the opposite, moron. we don't know anything about the pond, so it would be a good idea to consult a professional and see if altering it would affect anything or not.
It’s a fricking pond mate. You can see the size of it. He’s not even altering the damn thing, just wants a cleaner pond on his property.
Could be the nearby plants or decaying debris in the bottom of the pond.
https://www.waterboards.ca.gov/water_issues/programs/swamp/docs/cwt/guidance/3159.pdf
So why didnt you reccomend that a geologist, and a botanist and a paleontologist and local native elders and forensic investigators that specialize in identifying and dealing with historical cultural artifacts, human remains and other evidence of crimes all be called in as well, since we don't know if that water filled depression might be important for reasons connected to all of those fields as well?
You don't know that it doesn't have priceless relics hidden in the silt at the bottom or that it's the site of a culturally important ancient mass burial the identification of which is beyond the scope of a civil engineer.
And no, none of this is any more of an exaggeration than claiming that improving water quality in a tiny private pond presents unknown environmental risks that only a professional can assess.
A professional who, BTW, if he does the assessment in an official government capacity and is dead wrong and destroys the site or its market value is virtually immune from any repercussions along with the legal authorities he works for.
>So why didnt you reccomend that a geologist, and a botanist and a paleontologist and local native elders and forensic investigators
because a civil engineering encompasses environmental engineering.
we get it bro you've got a stick up your ass because a mean old engineer told you you did it wrong that one time.
>engineer
>immediately talks about something in somebody’s ass
checks out
Thanks for letting us know what part caught your attention
>no u
pretty sad tbh
>reccomend
stay mad
Talk about ponds or frick off. You are shitting up the thread.
>continues to contribute 0 value
...is that your special way of asking what exactly a civil engineer might speak to regarding pond diy-ing? Because we can, if that's what you are struggling mightily to say (but first you have to, you know, say it)
>stay mad
at what?
I was making fun of engineers.
and immediately outed yourself
anon I feel like you’re mixing posters up
oh you. it's a single chain of replies up to
so...
get some help son
i’m done replying to you
>confirmed mad
>if he does the assessment in an official government capacity and is dead wrong and destroys the site or its market value
>if if if
OP is the one wanting to do anything to the pond. The assessment would help identify risk. Are you ok?
And what happens when the government official demands things or insists on doing it a certain way ?
Why would you want a "professional" anywhere near ur land
>assumes DNR doesn't already know about it
>"it's just dirt and water"
>hates how bossy civilization can be
>"maybe someone made that unintentionally, better assume that's the case"
>rages when someone disagrees with him
good thing the government
>what happens when the government official demands things or insists on doing it a certain way?
Among other things, most of us reflect how the world doesn't always revolve around >i wanna
>better be safe and take the risk
>How do I make it cleaner?
>Put things that shit in it
Fish absolutely do clean a body of water like that. They eat the organic bits floating around and what they excrete becomes indistinguishable from silt.
>Stock it with fish.
wrong. The opposite would help, getting as much fish out as possible and maybe replacing with "cleaning" organisms like clams etc.
>consult a civil engineer to make sure altering the pond won't frick up anything important
lol frick off
not to rub salt in your wounds, but anon is likely driving around in a car using wheels he didn't reinvent all by his bootstrappy self, that DoT shill
Get a windmill aerator.
>Get a windmill aerator.
This. Best solution.
>windmill aerator
Huh, never heard of that before. Cool, good idea
a pond must have water constantly flowing in to and out of it to be healthy.
That's not true, you can use certain plants like Water Hyancinth, duckweed, water lilies and more that help greatly filter the water, you can use fish like Siamese Algae if warmer, or pond loach. Using both a mixture of fish and plants can keep a pond decently clean.
A circulating pump with a strainer.
I have a similar pond and was excited when I saw this thread, but it's full of unhelpful homosexuals going off topic.
-remove local debris
-aerate the pond if low/no flow of freshwater
-add a hunk of limestone
>source
my fishtank
>unhelpful
>no advice or context
Air pump, as other anons have said. Cheapest option is to run PVC pipe into the pond as air line with holes to release bubbles. You'll quickly figure out if you missed a spot because dense algae will grow outside the bubbled area thanks to the extra oxygen in the water. This can look interesting in big ponds, forming distinctive green rings.
Barley straw will clarify the water. I use to to keep my duck pools clear for an extra few days. But I learned of it because people use it for their ponds.
>Barley straw will clarify the water
Interesting, how does that work?
It's got some sort of enzyme that clings to thinks and makes them sink to the bottom.
Ah, I see. Like a fining agent in winemaking.
Hay bale
I saw an interesting tube video of redneck pool cleaner that may work for this. Essentially just pumping water through a 5 gallon bucket filled with cotton pillow stuffing and replace the cotton when it's dirty. Cheap and easy enough to try it
Cotton pillow stuffing works well enough for mycology, at least when compressed and dry. If it filters effectively when wet, I'm sure it'd make a fine filter.
>Is there anything I can put in it to do so?
No, and the county, state and Feds would be up your ass if you try.
It's on private property. Nobody will ever know. WTF are you on about?
>This Black person who thinks the EPA cares about "private property".
Get a pond aerator, then stick it up your ass
a couple of anons in this thread have said the pond needs continual flow in and out. This is correct.
The pic looks like the ground is flat, so there is no natural drainage into the pond. It is basically just a rain filled hole and will not likely improve. It will eventually fill in over the course of tine.
If you could build the banks up and get a grade going toward the water it will buy you a few years.
as it is now, it appears very shallow. Sunlight is hitting the bottom and causing algae and moss to grow. Google it, but I have heard silver nitrite kills aquatic weeds.
Also, they make non toxic dyes for ponds that helps block sunlight hitting the bottom. this can stop new growth because something something chlorophyll
Pretty solid advice tbh
You should install a solar powered pump or something for a filter and waterfall
Then how do you get rid of the dye?
get what they call a grass carp. These are highly regulated fish and only available from a hatchery. They are made sterile at the hatchery. They are so regulated that a hatchery employee will release it in the pond. They are about $20 plus delivery expense.
it will make short work of those weeds and clean the water
>highly regulated
*this triggers the free spirit*
>only available from a hatchery
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>They are so regulated
*breathing becomes labored*
>a hatchery employee will release it in the pond
mfw what is this planet
>plus delivery expense
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>it will make short work of
you've already lost free spirit's interest
This 100%. However ONLY if you don't care about other fish in the pond. Carp will eat it down so there's only sediment in the bottom and destroy any fish eggs. But if you only want it to look good with minimal effort, this is your solution.
>people still repeating this myth
That's not true. Some of the best bass fishing is in carp heavy bodies of water. My personal pond has loads of carp and robust populations of bluegill and largemouth.
That said, grass carp aren't the same as the common carp. It's a misnomer. They are common in golf course ponds and can get huge. They eat a shocking amount of vegetation. I foul hooked onto one at a local golf course and it was a wild battle.
>I have pic related pond on my property and would like to get the water cleaner.
Dig out an area next to it, fill with pond foil and dirt to make a swamp filter. Pump water from bottom of pond into swamp filter.
Get a big pump basket, or it will grind a lot of small fish and tadpoles through the pump.
Hire a specialist for this op. I bet make it aerobic with a pump and then adding some shelf/shallows with the right combo of filtering plants is the way. But seriously ponds are tricky and you need a local expert.
Pond looks fine to me in that picture. Id just leave it alone.
Pump and fast growing plants
Just put enough plants in it that clean the water you moron. There's a shitton of plants that will purify your water
>Is there anything I can put in it to do so?
No. The solubility of dissolved oxygen in the water increases with decreasing water temperature. That dissolved O2 is what is driving the microbial life that is keeping the water from being clear.
There is a chad face on the upper right in the tree leaves, looking to the left.
goldfishes and other carps
is this thread an ebyn reddit raid?
you frickers don't realize how much water there is in local water cycle
there's NO chance that removing one small pond will have any consequences
environment destroying projects are so going big that, ironically, every single one of them was caused by "professionals" (because one man couldn't accomplish them)
>*so fricking big
Handwringing do-gooders are the original concern trolls and we are now many decades into axworld whete in order to present as "caring" and "good" you must uncritically accept and promote the handwringing do-gooder mantra that "if only ONE ______ is saved, it's worth the cost".
Logic/reality that shows how shallow and stupid a premise this is makes them seethe and respond with a never ending string of unrealistic and unlikely hypotheticals where their fear might be founded, but any hypothetical presented to them that doesnt work in their favor is dismissed, no matter how realistic and likely it might be.
>there's NO chance that removing one small pond will have any consequences
>one more pond bro. just let me drain one more pond *gets the shakes*
you seem to be doing most of the concern trolling and seething
See, there's that stupid hypothetical worst case scenario strawman argument again, presented as a quote because personal attacks that misrepresent people's actual words to vilify them and ascribe monstrous, pathological motives to anyone who disagrees is the handwringing doo-gooder virtue signaller's stock in trade.
SO fricking predictable, thanks for proving the point.
>See, there's that stupid hypothetical worst case scenario
>we are now many decades into axworld whete
>presented as a quote because personal attacks that misrepresent people's actual words
>"if only ONE ______ is saved, it's worth the cost"
>to vilify them and ascribe monstrous, pathological motives
>the original concern trolls
>handwringing doo-gooder virtue signaller
>Logic/reality that shows
>thanks for proving the point
no need to thank me, that was all you
>hypothetical
>misrepresent
>vilify
>handwringing
>disagree
>thanks
you're welcome
clams the solution is clams and lots of them
It looks pretty clean to me
Chlorine pool tablets < a bucket> to start then add bleach in quantity until it turns crystal clear.
Before you do anything, is there anything downgrade of the pond? What is seasonal rainfall like in your area? How high is the water table? Do you see rare animals around that habitat?
OP needs someone to assess pond-effect precipitation.
Israeli carp. Yes, I'm aware they will make your white fish give everything to support the black fish, but they eat the algae.
It's a nested pipe with an airstone... the bubbler creates the circulation, and aerates the water... good stuff.
Airate the water. Place 2 or 3 air hoses in the water and have a pump on land in a shed.
I want to keep the looks, remove the lake. make a giant square hole, dump concrete till you have a square basement, then some metal frameworks/pillars to hold up see through black glass. then put the water back. So it appears to be a lake but in reality there is some sick ass living place underneath there that is naturally lit from above but invisible from the outside world.
You'll need to consult an engineer for that
copper sulfate
noooo think of the heckin' unintended consequencerinooooes
plant certain aquatic plants that clean the water like the other anon said. (duckweed, etc.)
if you want this to be a nice area and have a nice clean, but natural, pond, then it may be worth having the water tested at a lab. knowing the pH, nitrogen richness, and oxygenation, will go a long way in helping you know what needs to be done.
if it's eutrophic, then take nitrogen and phosphorus out (via physically removing plants that capture it well)
fixing it really depends on the natural/ecological stuff
if you want to chemically nuke it like some morons here suggest, it'll just make it worse in the long run.
Look into polyglutamic acid
Nihonjin science will fold your pond water 10,000 times until it's sharp and strong
peepee poopoo caca
aerator, air lift pumps will increase gas exchange for the same power as an aerator, fresh water mussels eat stuff, pine sapwood will filter water slowly.