I have a very strange hypothetical. What if you had a military force where the average grunt was a pretty good frogman?

I have a very strange hypothetical. What if you had a military force where the average grunt was a pretty good frogman? In terms of basic infantry skills they operated like any other infantry force, but they all happened to have dive training. How would they operate?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I guess you'd have grunts that could dive if needed. Could be handy if you lived on Mother Base.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they'd all dive to their positions
    >can't dive on land
    cave diving

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    About the same as any other infantry force except when there's sizable lakes/rivers/oceans nearby, I'd wager

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What if you had a military force where the average grunt was a pretty good frogman?
    The Finns have a military force where the average grunt is a world-class cross-country skier.
    It seems to make a difference in certain kinds of wars. Winter ones say.

    >they operated like any other infantry force, but they all happened to have dive training
    I imagine they'd be very dangerous in amphibious landings. No need for landing craft, just offload them 1km out and let them all swim ashore at night into random cliffs and rocks that aren't covered with bunkers and MG42s and pre-sighted with artillery.
    Then they can form up and attack a beach or port from land to prepare a secure landing sight for the heavy equipment.

    Kinda like an amphibious market garden.

    After that, it becomes irrelevant again.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty pointless actually. Now if every infantry man was a trained in some combat engineer skills, that would be extremely useful.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Now if every infantry man was a trained in some combat engineer skills
      What's more useful though, 1000 grunts with engineering training or 3000 riflemen and 30 with engineering training?

      Training costs time and money. Engineering training quite a bit more.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let me guess, you are 12 and came to /k/ because you saw some "special grown up" forces in your digital toy video games.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. I'm contemplating what would happen if the sea nomads ever militarized.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Caesar had it right. Make your soldiers all double as carpenters and make them build their own ships.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All navies used to do that.
      Every sailor could do some woodwork, that's not super difficult.
      There'd still be actual ship's carpenters who would direct them and knew what needed to be done, would pick out trees for new masts and stuff like that.
      They'd just offload the grunt work to the deckhands, no need to spend hours planing a new mast when you have 50 sailors at your command who can work simple tools.
      I'm sure the romans were similar.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This would probably be a pretty solid idea for an island nation. Pretty good shot most of their "territory" is open sea. If you're not planning to fight anywhere else, meaning your forces are focused specifically on homeland defense, having your base infantry specialized for home conditions is a good idea.

    For the majority of nations though it'd be a HUGE waste of resources.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Then you would have a force that was wasting a ton of resources on a niche skills that even dedicated, specialized frogman units don't get enough use out of. Even the SEALs have been b***hing about going back to frogman shit after 2 decades of GWOT land warfare.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I was gonna say even our specialized blue water special forces never uses their diving ability as it is
      I heard a story about a dam assault in Iraq where seals used diving…can’t imagine there’s been much more than that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I heard a story about a dam assault in Iraq where seals used diving
        lol
        They'd have had to special order a bunch of diving shit to be airdropped to them so that they can go for a swim to assault something they could have just JDAM'd.

        I mean, it's cool and all and more elegant and surgical so that's kino but damn is it not a cost effective way to execute an assault. Reads like sentiment and ego making the decision.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Devil's advocate right before the first Iraq invasion in the 90s, a SEAL team did do some sneaky shit to fake a naval invasion that psyched out Saddam into thinking there was gonna be an d-day Iraq edition. There is a place for that sort of unit, but I wonder how much of it could be replicated with various drones these days. Surely something like hydrographic recon could be done easily enough with a drone.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >sneaky shit

            They literally called all the press who then met them with TV cameras on a Kuwaiti beach. Everyone watched it on CNN, including Sadam Hussein. It wasn't a contested landing, they did nothing but look cool and make the moronic Iraqis think the M.E.F. would soon be right behind them. The real use for the Seals is all the spy shit you don't hear about until 40 years after it happens.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They'd fill all their foxholes with water and only stick their eyes up.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They wouldn't kill ships with missiles, they'd swim up to them and board them like it was a COD mission

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