The division is between retards who muh-berries-reee and non retards that comprehend how aggressively invasive and destructive these fuckers are.
A blackberry? I don't get it.
Specifically the Himalayan blackberry--the native trailing are fine because they don't grow as fast and don't grow remotely close to as large as the Himalayans.
It's literally just a provincial Washington or Oregon residence thinking they're thought and memes are universal
>People who actually live around diverse biomes don't like fucking up diverse biomes with highly invasive plants
Fun fact: you're retarded.
>The division is between retards who muh-berries-reee and non retards that comprehend how aggressively invasive and destructive these fuckers are.
I love the berries and I want all those ghetto neighborhood shanties to also know how much I love them.
Great to pick them, although i feel a bit bad i'm stealing all the birds fruit, at the same time horror when these grow in your own garden unchecked.
Blackberries are not a crop you have to worry about leave gleanings for. They're maintenance free kosher plants.
the joke is they are dividing people on either side of the brambles.
because holy fucking hell these mofos are invasive. delicious, but invasive.
>t oregonian with 7 acres, of which half is covered in these fags.
Just cut and tarp. Don't worry, there's plenty left on any highway median.
My old Bernese used to strip the whole plant, leaves, thorns, berries, and all, when he got a hankering for them.
>My old Bernese used to strip the whole plant
I know they're big chonkers, but damn he must have been part deer too if he could chew on them without issue.
>Doesn't care about environmental impact at all
They grow so well through the unmaintained concrete on Martin Luther King street. Don't you have some PVC products to shill for your micro (plastic) greens or something? Yes you care so much about the environment that you would rather see me buy mcdonalds then plant blabckberry bushes. Talk about lost priorities.
>Incoherent wordspew
Feel bad about being retarded.
These aren't nearly as much of a problem as english vines in the PNW. They mostly only grow in distrubed and populated areas, I never see them on hikes just in neighborhoods. I enjoy them more now, alongside our other native Rubus.
Ask me how I know you're a Puget sound dwelling retard. These thrive in the lowlands and are all around the Olympic peninsula all the way down into Oregon. Himalayan blackberries and Ivy are the two most invasive species in the region. Nothing you city retards love more than moving to rural areas, cutting down the trees, and introducing invasive species than justifying their retardation (like you just did) with their ignorance.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You actually don't know what you're talking about. Himalayan blackberries don't have nearly the ecological impact as many other invasive plants. They are a class C noxious weed.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>t. puget sound retard confirmed
Yes, the political committee in Seattle decided not to create massive expenditures for the timber industry with shit science and good goy like you don't question any of it.
If the EPA did its job it would be illegal to farm lumber in a temperate rainforest like the subhumans in the Congo and Amazon. They intentionally miscategorize endangered species as well and for the same reason.
You don't know anything about Washington or science.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Endangered species have been the biggest opponent to the lumber industry in the area. What science are you quoting that claims that blackberries are the worst invasive plants in the area? You are a poltard conspiracy theorist.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, he is.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Brain dead seattleite continues to spew lumber industry propaganda
You live on bell hill don't you? You clearly aren't the type of person who comprehends scientific publications else you'd realize how retarded you sound.
>huge thorns: prevents trampling >unpalatable leaves: prevents defoliation >juicy, attractive berries full of seeds: increases area
Himalayan Blackberries are absolutely s-tier invasives
City retards have no idea. The thickets spread aggressively from urban areas and the entire Olympic peninsula is ringed by urban areas and clear cuts. The timber industries and private land developers absolutely don't report or care about invasive species that's why that city moron doesn't comprehend anything.
Yes, he is.
Ok Don lemon, tell us more about how clearcutting prevents forest fires.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Blackberries grow primarily in disturbed areas. Other invasives are more dangerous to forested areas and difficult to remove. Maybe you don't actually go PrepHole and just walk around the neighborhood. I'm sure you see lots of blackberries there.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Grow primarily in disturbed areas
Lamo--you don't understand anything but..
Ok retard, now look at the aerial photos of WA state and see all the fucking clear cuts?
You seattlites are beyond retarded. Your argument supports everything I just said and outlines how detached you are from reality.
I almost guarantee you aren't a native Seattleite but you're obviously very dumb.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
this, 100%
that's what happened on my land, W clear cut it in like 2008, then replanted. by the time we bought it in 2019 it had a ton of 20' foot trees, but every clearing was completely infested with blackberries, and the foot every tree has canes climbing up the branches.
when a forest is logged, there's enough light at ground level, and invasive shit takes over. it takes a few years for the trees to get tall enough after reprod to block out enough light .. but after this, at least once you clear the understory it doesn't grow back.
i like blackberries just fine, but they're cockblocking my morel's, and i'm not okay with this.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's a travesty how they treat the lowland temperate rainforests...the little that is left.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
also
the pnw has several species of native blackberries (and other berries) that are bountiful and delicious (and free).
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Specifically the Himalayan blackberry--the native trailing are fine because they don't grow as fast and don't grow remotely close to as large as the Himalayans. >[...]
You forgot to mention the native black berries taste better too. Humalayan's are only good for jams and jelly's.
The PNW has a shit ton of berries in general. Two types of huckleberries, Oregon grapes, two types of elderberry, I think there are at least three types of trailing blackberries, thimbleberries, salmon berries, wild strawberries, several types of blueberries, cranberries, currents... and the less popular but still edible ones--salal, snowberries, twin-berries and you can even eat yew berries if you spit out the seeds.
>Specifically the Himalayan blackberry--the native trailing are fine because they don't grow as fast and don't grow remotely close to as large as the Himalayans. >
It's literally just a provincial Washington or Oregon residence thinking they're thought and memes are universal
You forgot to mention the native black berries taste better too. Humalayan's are only good for jams and jelly's.
The birds do not consider the berries to be their private property, that's us. They can always find more berries as long as people respect the environment and do not take more than they need. It grows back.
And the ecology is complex. Certain animals harm the environment, so hunting them is a way to protect the environment. Down here it's the kudzu, which just grows super fast and covers everything. However, it's not useless. It's used as a medicine to stop alcohol cravings for alcoholics, as it contains medicinal alkaloids. Typically a concentrated extract.
I've actually been thinking about making some kudzu extract to mix with local legal hemp extract, to treat withdrawal symptoms for recovering alcoholics. I think it could be a very effective medicine to give to people with alcoholism. Stops the cravings, treats the withdrawal.
Unlike other plants that do the exact same thing...? I still don't understand why this is supposed to be divisive. I've never heard anyone argue about blackberries.
you're ignoring the razor sharp vines that choke out everything else.
but yes, at least there's an upside to them compared to something like kudzu or hispanics
Kudzu grows from Florida to New Jersey, and as far west as West Virginia and East Texas. However, a small patch of it has been found in Clackamas County, Oregon. No one is sure where it came from.
>invasive species elucidated
...I need you to dial back your power level display sir. Goatheads and how they got to the USA is... well, I only have so many ways to ban evade homojannemangays obsessed with subhuman cocks.
the vines are by no definition, razor sharp. they are more of a gripping thorn like a tiny rose thorn rather than a fuck off and die actually razor sharp opuntia thorn. If you have even the most mediocre of workgloves and a little dexterity, they are quite easy to pull out. their little chutes are connected so well to the mother plant that you can basically just yank entire canes and roots out when you pull on it.
People need to quit bitching and moaning and just learn how to manage them. They are not a weed because no weed could possibly give the most delicious fruit; better than 99% of the nicest, fanciest produce department. It's a weed in the same way that a catfish is a pest.
Catfish are reigonal and live in water you inbred mutt, they can't hop out of a lake to infest a neighboring lake. You subhumans always prioritize your personal gratification over environment.
Himalayan blackberries are cancer loved by subhumans and retards.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just for that drivel, I'm going to seed bomb as much blackberry as I can this year.
You can fuck off back to yurop or whatever sad place your kind spawned, ya invasive species.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I am the invasive species
already knew that, Juan
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And yet the same species of catfish are found in completely isolated waterways across the entire continent. They are getting there the same way every invasive species gets there. FUCKING BIRBS.
never had a problem with rubus shrubs, though i live in a climate where they don't do particularly well and the native ones are more prolific. i always like eating them when i find them out bush
They grow near me but I never get any because my dog eats all the berries. He goes crazy on them, like a bear, and he can get the tall ones cuz he's an Irish wolfhound so he's tall
As a landscaper with the registered pesticide certificate as a landscaper, I get called to spray for these damn things a lot. First you have to cut it back at this time of year until it's nothing but little stubs so they can grow for a few months then you use glyphosate mixed with some trimix for added Vigor to kill them. Selden get any of it growing back but they will grow back from seeds since they're usually ubiquitous and old flashes
These aren't nearly as much of a problem as english vines in the PNW. They mostly only grow in distrubed and populated areas, I never see them on hikes just in neighborhoods. I enjoy them more now, alongside our other native Rubus.
These fuckers killed my mother. Little scratch, got infected, severe allergic reaction to antibiotics. From mostly fine to braindead in a couple of hours.
The division is between people who think they're great and people who think they're the greatest.
I murder the fuck out of Himalayan blackberries.
The division is between retards who muh-berries-reee and non retards that comprehend how aggressively invasive and destructive these fuckers are.
Specifically the Himalayan blackberry--the native trailing are fine because they don't grow as fast and don't grow remotely close to as large as the Himalayans.
>People who actually live around diverse biomes don't like fucking up diverse biomes with highly invasive plants
Fun fact: you're retarded.
Clearly I was correct and struck a nerve.
>The division is between retards who muh-berries-reee and non retards that comprehend how aggressively invasive and destructive these fuckers are.
I love the berries and I want all those ghetto neighborhood shanties to also know how much I love them.
Blackberries are not a crop you have to worry about leave gleanings for. They're maintenance free kosher plants.
Just cut and tarp. Don't worry, there's plenty left on any highway median.
>My old Bernese used to strip the whole plant
I know they're big chonkers, but damn he must have been part deer too if he could chew on them without issue.
>Doesn't care about environmental impact at all
>It's soo yummy!
indeed you are a retarded urbanite that probably loves soda and McDonald's.
>Doesn't care about environmental impact at all
They grow so well through the unmaintained concrete on Martin Luther King street. Don't you have some PVC products to shill for your micro (plastic) greens or something? Yes you care so much about the environment that you would rather see me buy mcdonalds then plant blabckberry bushes. Talk about lost priorities.
>Incoherent wordspew
Feel bad about being retarded.
Ask me how I know you're a Puget sound dwelling retard. These thrive in the lowlands and are all around the Olympic peninsula all the way down into Oregon. Himalayan blackberries and Ivy are the two most invasive species in the region. Nothing you city retards love more than moving to rural areas, cutting down the trees, and introducing invasive species than justifying their retardation (like you just did) with their ignorance.
You actually don't know what you're talking about. Himalayan blackberries don't have nearly the ecological impact as many other invasive plants. They are a class C noxious weed.
>t. puget sound retard confirmed
Yes, the political committee in Seattle decided not to create massive expenditures for the timber industry with shit science and good goy like you don't question any of it.
If the EPA did its job it would be illegal to farm lumber in a temperate rainforest like the subhumans in the Congo and Amazon. They intentionally miscategorize endangered species as well and for the same reason.
You don't know anything about Washington or science.
Endangered species have been the biggest opponent to the lumber industry in the area. What science are you quoting that claims that blackberries are the worst invasive plants in the area? You are a poltard conspiracy theorist.
Yes, he is.
>Brain dead seattleite continues to spew lumber industry propaganda
You live on bell hill don't you? You clearly aren't the type of person who comprehends scientific publications else you'd realize how retarded you sound.
City retards have no idea. The thickets spread aggressively from urban areas and the entire Olympic peninsula is ringed by urban areas and clear cuts. The timber industries and private land developers absolutely don't report or care about invasive species that's why that city moron doesn't comprehend anything.
Ok Don lemon, tell us more about how clearcutting prevents forest fires.
Blackberries grow primarily in disturbed areas. Other invasives are more dangerous to forested areas and difficult to remove. Maybe you don't actually go PrepHole and just walk around the neighborhood. I'm sure you see lots of blackberries there.
>Grow primarily in disturbed areas
Lamo--you don't understand anything but..
Ok retard, now look at the aerial photos of WA state and see all the fucking clear cuts?
You seattlites are beyond retarded. Your argument supports everything I just said and outlines how detached you are from reality.
I almost guarantee you aren't a native Seattleite but you're obviously very dumb.
this, 100%
that's what happened on my land, W clear cut it in like 2008, then replanted. by the time we bought it in 2019 it had a ton of 20' foot trees, but every clearing was completely infested with blackberries, and the foot every tree has canes climbing up the branches.
when a forest is logged, there's enough light at ground level, and invasive shit takes over. it takes a few years for the trees to get tall enough after reprod to block out enough light .. but after this, at least once you clear the understory it doesn't grow back.
i like blackberries just fine, but they're cockblocking my morel's, and i'm not okay with this.
It's a travesty how they treat the lowland temperate rainforests...the little that is left.
also
the pnw has several species of native blackberries (and other berries) that are bountiful and delicious (and free).
The PNW has a shit ton of berries in general. Two types of huckleberries, Oregon grapes, two types of elderberry, I think there are at least three types of trailing blackberries, thimbleberries, salmon berries, wild strawberries, several types of blueberries, cranberries, currents... and the less popular but still edible ones--salal, snowberries, twin-berries and you can even eat yew berries if you spit out the seeds.
>Specifically the Himalayan blackberry--the native trailing are fine because they don't grow as fast and don't grow remotely close to as large as the Himalayans.
>
You forgot to mention the native black berries taste better too. Humalayan's are only good for jams and jelly's.
Great to pick them, although i feel a bit bad i'm stealing all the birds fruit, at the same time horror when these grow in your own garden unchecked.
The birds do not consider the berries to be their private property, that's us. They can always find more berries as long as people respect the environment and do not take more than they need. It grows back.
And the ecology is complex. Certain animals harm the environment, so hunting them is a way to protect the environment. Down here it's the kudzu, which just grows super fast and covers everything. However, it's not useless. It's used as a medicine to stop alcohol cravings for alcoholics, as it contains medicinal alkaloids. Typically a concentrated extract.
I've actually been thinking about making some kudzu extract to mix with local legal hemp extract, to treat withdrawal symptoms for recovering alcoholics. I think it could be a very effective medicine to give to people with alcoholism. Stops the cravings, treats the withdrawal.
>The birds do not consider the berries to be their private property
commie scum
the dinosaurs had their time
Only if you live in the north west.
A blackberry? I don't get it.
they spread everywhere and form impenetrable dense thickets
Unlike other plants that do the exact same thing...? I still don't understand why this is supposed to be divisive. I've never heard anyone argue about blackberries.
It's literally just a provincial Washington or Oregon residence thinking they're thought and memes are universal
Tbh.
>iai
most plants dont form brambles idiot
the joke is they are dividing people on either side of the brambles.
because holy fucking hell these mofos are invasive. delicious, but invasive.
>t oregonian with 7 acres, of which half is covered in these fags.
>Doesn't own atleast a propane flamethrower
you're doing it all wrong
7 acres, so you at least have a decent lawn tractor. Cut them down with the mower deck
oh no an edible sweet berry spreads too much, how horrid
you're ignoring the razor sharp vines that choke out everything else.
but yes, at least there's an upside to them compared to something like kudzu or hispanics
You can eat kudzu dumb dumb. Or turn it into meat.
Kudzu grows from Florida to New Jersey, and as far west as West Virginia and East Texas. However, a small patch of it has been found in Clackamas County, Oregon. No one is sure where it came from.
You should getting a better info source. It's all over Maine.
It's causing problems with fiddle head harvesting.
Let’s say hypothetically I wanted to bring it to California, Oregon, or Washington because I fucking despise the left coast. Would it cause harm?
no cause they would appreciate a new species to increase the somewhat lacking biodiversity of the region
>invasive species elucidated
...I need you to dial back your power level display sir. Goatheads and how they got to the USA is... well, I only have so many ways to ban evade homojannemangays obsessed with subhuman cocks.
I don't have the words to describe my hate for goatheads.
>the razor sharp vines
get your work glove on you bitch
>choke out everything else
choke out yourself cunt
you edgy little zoomer.
thats DOOMER to you, cunt
the vines are by no definition, razor sharp. they are more of a gripping thorn like a tiny rose thorn rather than a fuck off and die actually razor sharp opuntia thorn. If you have even the most mediocre of workgloves and a little dexterity, they are quite easy to pull out. their little chutes are connected so well to the mother plant that you can basically just yank entire canes and roots out when you pull on it.
People need to quit bitching and moaning and just learn how to manage them. They are not a weed because no weed could possibly give the most delicious fruit; better than 99% of the nicest, fanciest produce department. It's a weed in the same way that a catfish is a pest.
>gloves
oh shit, why didn't I think of that? god dammit anon, you saved the day.
Catfish are reigonal and live in water you inbred mutt, they can't hop out of a lake to infest a neighboring lake. You subhumans always prioritize your personal gratification over environment.
Himalayan blackberries are cancer loved by subhumans and retards.
Just for that drivel, I'm going to seed bomb as much blackberry as I can this year.
You can fuck off back to yurop or whatever sad place your kind spawned, ya invasive species.
>I am the invasive species
already knew that, Juan
And yet the same species of catfish are found in completely isolated waterways across the entire continent. They are getting there the same way every invasive species gets there. FUCKING BIRBS.
hush, adults are speaking
never had a problem with rubus shrubs, though i live in a climate where they don't do particularly well and the native ones are more prolific. i always like eating them when i find them out bush
Always happy to see one of these. Aside from the berries, you can make surprisingly good tea out of the leaves.
Tea from the leaves? How’s the flavor
I want to grow either blackberry, or raspberry, or black raspberry in my yard. The species native to Eastern US. Which should I plant?
raspberry
They grow near me but I never get any because my dog eats all the berries. He goes crazy on them, like a bear, and he can get the tall ones cuz he's an Irish wolfhound so he's tall
My old Bernese used to strip the whole plant, leaves, thorns, berries, and all, when he got a hankering for them.
My poodle does this with blueberries. Luckily there's more there he could eat and lots.of highbush
Does enchanted super berry real?
=/
does 4 times more juicy enchanted super berry as in ops pic real or not? =/
Damn that red part looks like my asshole right now
As a landscaper with the registered pesticide certificate as a landscaper, I get called to spray for these damn things a lot. First you have to cut it back at this time of year until it's nothing but little stubs so they can grow for a few months then you use glyphosate mixed with some trimix for added Vigor to kill them. Selden get any of it growing back but they will grow back from seeds since they're usually ubiquitous and old flashes
These aren't nearly as much of a problem as english vines in the PNW. They mostly only grow in distrubed and populated areas, I never see them on hikes just in neighborhoods. I enjoy them more now, alongside our other native Rubus.
>most divisive plant
You spelled "tasty" wrong.
The only divisive thing about them is that I won't share with anyone, they are all mine.
>huge thorns: prevents trampling
>unpalatable leaves: prevents defoliation
>juicy, attractive berries full of seeds: increases area
Himalayan Blackberries are absolutely s-tier invasives
>live in the PNW
yeah
They can drown every god dammed plant in the country and use it for compost for all I care. This plant actually does something.
How do thimbleberries taste?
less tart than most other wild berries
drier ouyet texture--slightly fuzzy
seeds are small and numerous
fall apart easily when ripe
Sounds terrible. The best thing about berries is the tartness.
I collect them as they ripen and then freeze them until I have enough to make preserves
These fuckers killed my mother. Little scratch, got infected, severe allergic reaction to antibiotics. From mostly fine to braindead in a couple of hours.
and somehow I can't start a cutting of it to save my life