I don't get it. Why can't armies use tactical nukes in war?

I don't get it. Why can't armies use tactical nukes in war? If you airburst, the radiation is negligible and the damage is huge. It's the perfect weapon. I understand dropping megatons on cities, but on a front with only soldiers, a 30 kt airburst wouldn't hurt any civilians and the contamination would not even remotely be a problem. Russia should start using them, and then the US would give the Ukrainians some. The taboo is just retarded.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sweetie, nukes are fake, okay?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now imagine using them like conventional explosives, now see lunar landscape in war, you get idea.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >now see lunar landscape in war,
      Looks a lot like the Somme in WWI

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    slippery slope argument
    a well founded one

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cluster bombs did the same job cheaper.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3km radius
    Well, that would help russia to actually hit shit, but I don't think the cost of a nuke even comes close to the cost of 5 vehicles and 50 soldiers that will be killed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You could easily delete a base or a logistical hub with that thing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A logistical hub has enough ammo to do the work for you with a 100lbs bomb

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so can most competent bombing nowadays

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. The radiation is not, in fact, negligible, and the contamination is indeed a problem. 30kt is only "small" relative to bigger nukes. Little Boy was 15kt, Fat Man 21kt. It's a big blast.
    2. It pushes everyone up the nuclear escalation/proliferation ladder. Start flinging around nukes and those with them will use more and more. Those without them will have to have them to compete, which means the NPT is dead, which means every rando nation starts aiming for nukes either directly or buying them off Pakistan or something. Small nukes are HARDER, not easier, than big ones. Nukes everywhere raises massively the odds of non-gov orgs getting them also.
    3. They're not actually very useful militarily. The damage from an airburst will do shit against hardened/armored military targets. It's a LOT more in the favor of advanced countries to just keep stuff conventional.
    >The taboo is just retarded.
    No, but OP is a gay 100% of the time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The radiation is not, in fact, negligible, and the contamination is indeed a problem.
      >They're not actually very useful militarily. The damage from an airburst will do shit against hardened/armored military targets
      You're actuality retarded and I feel explaining this to you would be like talking to a brick wall

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I cannot comprehend that radiation/fallout which will contaminate things, thermal that will set big areas on fire for awhile causing lots of pollution, etc to make it shitty for civilians after the war simultaneously isn't going to stop the protected soldiers inside a tank/ifv/apc
        >y-you're t-the r-re-retard ;_;
        Yeah.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because retards would use them on civilians anyways and cause all kinds of collateral damage.
    Just look at Russia. They can't resist bombing McDonalds, shopping malls, and schools already with their drones and rockets. It would just take one moron pissy that his company isn't pushing fast enough or that his favorite cumscript died to start lobbing them at anything manmade.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a 30 kt airburst wouldn't hurt any civilians
    I hope this is a joke.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If the battle is happening in the middle of the Sahara or Siberia or Moscow or somewhere like that with no humans around it might be true, but yeah that's not where most wars are fought.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Moscow or somewhere like that with no humans around
        lel

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"hey fuckboy, we have nukes and you don't so we're taking all your shit"
    >wtfffff why is everybody rushing to build nukes???/

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the damage is huge
    That's the fucking thing! It is a disproportionate and sudden use of force, which effortlessly can erase entire defensive or offensive plans, rendering conventional forces exceptionally vulnerable or outright irrelevant.
    Introducing their significant and unpredictable force into the conflict naturally disrupts any conventional long-term strategy by encouraging usage of rapid and overwhelming force, so that one can guarantee the neutralization of hostile tactical nuclear weapons as quickly as possible. And the easiest way to achieve this A1-priority is through more nuclear attacks, even if just tactical.
    And as quickly as fortunes can turn in such an environment, where entire armies can be rendered crippled in mere minutes and hours, who's to rule out executing an operational or strategic strike to counterbalance this loss?

    At least with strategic weapons there is usually some warning of the attack or the preparation of one. But tactical weapons can be, as pictured, be just about anywhere and attack without warning. In that sense they're more dangerous to planners and commanders and harder to counter in a non-escalatory manner.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      good tank

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Escalation, brinksmanship

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would U.S. Leaders Push the Button?
    Wargames and the Sources of Nuclear Restraint.
    By Reid B.C. Pauly

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5b9d3f0f9f87703767ff0084/t/5dd1fc0201bff5552dbfd242/1574042627240/Pauly+-+Would+US+Leaders+Push+the+Button%3F+-+IS+Article.pdf

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Drone delivered Davey Crockett is the future of warfare.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are your thoughts on tactical nukes being used on soldiers of your country by the enemy or dropped on your cities?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The smaller warheads usually scatter far more radioative material given their blast yeild compared to large nuclear warheads. Granted, certain modern tactical weapons are designed well enough so that the reaction will reduce this, but dropping 10x 5kt warheads will distribute far more radioative material then dropping one 50kt warhead.

    tldr; big nukes "burn" more efficiently

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I understand dropping megatons on cities, but on a front with only soldiers, a 30 kt airburst wouldn't hurt any civilians and the contamination would not even remotely be a problem.
    Once the genie's out of the bottle, there's no way to stuff him back inside.
    Once you give grunts nuclear toys not even God himself would stop them from bombing a base, an airfield, a hospital, an apartment block.
    Just look at the completely emotionless shooting of everything Russians are doing today. Had USSR included nukes in their regular arsenal, those would already be polluting anything from Kiev to the most remote villages on the Polish border.

    Soldiers are dumb as shit, ideally without morals and most fucking certainly not people who think things through or engage in philosophical discussions about the damage caused by reckless escalation.
    They're just a bunch of scared apes with funny toys and buttons that remind them of crayons they eat at lunch.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Negligible radiation do not exist in civi speak.
    It's either safe or instant soul-destroying cancer.

    Using the nuke first would make you the attacker

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