Hypothetically if the Kuznetsov just burns to cinders like it has been trying for the past 3 decades. Would the Russians even have the resources to replace it?
Hypothetically if the Kuznetsov just burns to cinders like it has been trying for the past 3 decades.
Lol no. They'd be better of just shipping that piece of shit to China since the chinks like them so much.
>shipping that piece of shit to China
The Kuznetsov might as well be a wooden sailing ship as far as the Chinese are concerned. Its only buyer would be India so it can be scrapped on the beach by monkeymen
>Hypothetically if the [Russian Materiel] just burns to cinders like it has been trying for the past 3 decades. Would the Russians even have the resources to replace it?
No.
Kuznetsov was built in Ukraine. Unless they retake and rebuild it without bankrupting themselves in the process it's not possible.
do they even have a drydock or slip way large enough to do that?
There was a floating drydock but it don't float so good no more
honestly, does it even get any real tactical use as it is, or is it just an expensive showpiece?
You can't be taken seriously if you don't have a carrier. Even if it is a piece of shit YOU STILL HAVE ONE!
the same goes for all Russian surface ships
they should beach that thing in territoriality disputed waters or something
>is it just an expensive showpiece?
It's the "Russia is a naval superpower" ship, we can't scrap it, please understand.
They scrapped half of their nuclear battle cruisers.
Does the other half technically still float on the surface?
The most rational explanation is that it’s their way to keep some modicum of institutional knowledge about carrier operations intact.
Truth be told they don't really need a carrier. Carriers are for expanding your sphere of influence across the globe. They are mostly land locked and their navy is primarily there for coastal defense. If the party is going down that close to the mainland they don't need a carrier since it is easier to sortie from a land base. They need to spend their potatoes on land warfare and an air force. Their nukes and subs can still exert pressure globally but they don't need to be conducting pin point strikes and meddling in others affairs. That is our job. That is why we got 11 of the bastards, to be all up in everyone's business.
>some modicum of institutional knowledge about carrier operations intact.
given how their syria deployment went, that aint much
that would mean whatever is trapped below decks finally escapes
the Russians can't risk that
>Mazut! It is Mazut and nothing else. Nyet you cannot look below deck. Many advance Russian technology. Go away.
No but seriously how the fuck did they capture a red drake and get a pipe that big up it's ass?
if they could have replaced her they would have long ago done it
Perhaps maybe not. They just have to project power, not actually use it. If they lose the carrier entirely then they are "super power" with no carrier. It is embarrassing.
China benefits despite it's carriers being largely useless because people see it as a beginning of a larger long term build up, Russia gains nothing from fielding that husk
>resources
maybe
>ability to manufacture
lol no. i'll give them a maybe if they would annex mykolaiv and win the war, but neither will happen.
I thought they had a dry dock big enough to facilitate anothers construction, That is where they are retrofitting it now anyways.
They have a drydock large enough for refits (but not the cash to actually refit it). They however does not have a slipway large enough to manufacture new ships of that size. All Soviet carriers was produced in Ukraine.
Current Russia is in a full clown war economy that is being held together by foreign help through indirect means and one foreign bank with SWIFT access.
Everything else is superficial. To my grest shame, both big helpers are Austrian companies. I'm seriously considering packing up my stuff and moving to another cunt, because the constant russian dicksucking is getting on my nerves. Pic related is the Austrian company that still somehow manages to export to Russia and keep artillery barrel production going.
This is the first part of the article.
Excuse my homosexualry.
>we didn't give them all the machines they have, so that's like we didn't give them any, right? ...right?
Did I lose something in translation or situation, or is that really the argument they're making?
can't they trade oil and gas to China to get ot rebuilt to 001 standard?
also they should consider buying the 001 and 002 to make it a class of 3 ships that can do proper rotations
They would just give it a trendy new paint scheme and call it Kuznetsov M.
Potemkin wish carrier
Russia NEVER had the capability to build one of these. They had to steal the bloody thing right out of a Ukrainian drydock when the USSR collapsed and bring it all the way to Murmansk, where they attempted to finish it but never managed to get it working right.
They really are a fallen empire kingdom straight out of Asimov's Foundation series.
The only USSR shipyard of the size enough for a carrier is Nikolaev Shipyards
They never did have the resources to replace it. Adm. Kuznetsov was always a cope carrier. Too small to be actually useful because it was cucked by needing to access the Bosphorus.