>hurr durr Russia can't modernize their T-62s

>hurr durr Russia can't modernize their T-62s

Well, well, well. Looks like apologies are in order

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what am I looking at

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A gunner thermal sight.

      https://i.imgur.com/wi18Ymi.jpg

      >hurr durr Russia can't modernize their T-62s

      Well, well, well. Looks like apologies are in order

      Russia is so strong, they've almost caught up to North Korea's last generation of tanks.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A picture of some sort of important item upon physical inspection (After the cope cage failed to intercept a homemade explosive microwave) appears to be a hollow box that gives the impression in photographs of being some kind of important equipment.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A modern 1PN96MT-02 sight with a thermal imaging channel and a laser rangefinder, which will allow the tank gunner to detect targets at a distance of up to 3000 meters

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So hyper-advanced bleeding edge tech from 1985?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          T-62 has finally reached the level of AMX-30B2

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The T-62 first entered service in 1961. So updating them to 1985 tech is a huge leap forward. Stay mad r/ukraine reddit cuck.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Too bad the west is using shit from 2022. Maybe the gloves would finally be removed if russhit could actually keep up.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Stay mad? Naa I think we'll just keep laughing at the new lows of pathetic cope Russia keeps having to resort too in a desperate attempt to maintain their image as the second greatest military in the world.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >which will allow the tank gunner to detect targets at a distance of up to 3000 meters
        Like drones dropping nades?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Put a scarce thermal imaging sight
        >On a fucking t62

        Good grief, if they have the tools and resources to rebuild t62 why they are not doing the same to t72A/B's, there were suppsed to be 12k sitting in yards around russia even if they were plundered of everything usable at least the tanks will be more useful.

        That pic is the physical embodiment of "lipstick on a pig"

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          At this point, I'm willing to believe those hulks are stripped to the point of being unsalvagable and/or the tooling needed to remanufacture them is gone.
          While it is not impossible that they just get off on humiliating themselves, this seems to be the best they can do now.
          Why else would they be wasting man-hours and production space?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They would never spend that many resources on a T-62 if they could use them on something better.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The thing is the tech divide between a late t62 and a t72A are not that big and you can crew them with three guys, guys who have been trained on them all this time, not until the late 70's, and share the gun ammo with the rest of your tank forces.

            I would like to really know why they are wasting resources on this, if they can do it with a 62 the should be able to do it with the 72's.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              T-72 was a sales success. T-62 wasn't. WHich means one of them will have a shitload of components and spare parts sold off on the black market over the decades, while the other won't.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretend I'm a complete idiot and please explain to me what I'm looking at and why it spells disaster for western society.

      During russian military exercise, covering by state TV for propaganda uses, it was showed 50 years old tanks with modern thermovision sights for gunner - probably 1PN96MT-02

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      stage light

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretend I'm a complete idiot and please explain to me what I'm looking at and why it spells disaster for western society.

      A tank to finally match the most advanced wunderwaffe in HATO's arsenal, the M60A3 TTS.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      TV parade, proving every mobile gets not just sausage, children's gloves and a paintball mask, but also thermals and a t64

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretend I'm a complete idiot and please explain to me what I'm looking at and why it spells disaster for western society.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      a tank that was designed in the late 50s with a thermal sight and a couple egg-carton era blocks slapped on it. majority of the ammo being issued are steel dart rounds manufactured in the early 70s and can only penetrate about 220mm RHA at 500m 90 degrees.

      far less capable than all the T72B3, T80, T90, russia has already lost so they are totally gonna be so useful and help russia win.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So is anyone going to ask for source so we can get date and location? And if there is more than just the 1?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're going to steal from Reddit, at least post the whole thing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >kontakt 1
      damn, they might as well shoot them in the head and be done with it. If you're going to pull ancient tanks from reserve with shit tier armor, you might as well add the ERA you claim will help defeat older penetrators.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Steal from Reddit
      >Stealing a post some Redditor pulled from a twitter thread
      Go back.

      As hilarious as it is that Russia is now having to replace its losses with antique tanks, it’s simultaneously sick as fuck to see old ass tanks upgraded with “new” hardware.

      I WANT to see the T-34/85 with ERA and thermals

      Russia and Ukraine have armored repair plants they send their equipment to before they bring them back into the field. All of the T-64BM bulats you see in Ukrainian service now are refurbished hulls they took out of storage from the Kiev repair plants grounds or from Kharkov. All of those satellite images you see of just rusted out abandoned equipment left out in fields, well the vehicles in them are still perfectly exploitable. The Russians have 8 big plants for vehicle modernization and restoration, and the Ukrainians had a few big ones themselves before they got bombed (they're still restoring and re-building IFV's covertly).

      I'll believe this is being mass produced when I see T-62M with thermal sights abandoned in Ukraine. Until then these photos are just for show

      Doesn't matter how much they modernize them, the fact that they NEED to modernise shit thats ~60 years old is embarrassing

      This is just a wartime materiel mobilization measure that's happening parallel to the massive orders that other repair plants are undertaking. Russia isn't just modernizing the T-62, It's also modernizing the BMP-1 and BTR-80 with 30mm modules, and the T-72 plus T-80 tanks with Kontakt 5 and thermals. Also the BMP-2's are coming out with Berezhok modules.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do you have any numbers for expected equipment delivers?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The story for the T-62s are 800 over 3 years, as referenced

          [...]

          Don't know about others. But I have seen a BMP-1 with the 30mm turret and it looks sick.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes it will smash all the Leopard 1s and Centurions.
    Well apart from those that also have thermal sights.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Congratulations on reaching 1985.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Age is no object to the abandoooner

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As hilarious as it is that Russia is now having to replace its losses with antique tanks, it’s simultaneously sick as fuck to see old ass tanks upgraded with “new” hardware.

    I WANT to see the T-34/85 with ERA and thermals

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unless they're time travelling then it's going to be worse in almost every respect that modern systems even with upgrades.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Would be worth it to see a T-34 with a 100mm gun fighting with an M4 hyper sherman armed with a 105mm L7

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It isn't even Russian military using these shitty tanks. They are lpr and dnpr volunteers.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Still spouting this bullshit I see.
        https://mil.in.ua/en/news/russian-military-lost-t-62m-and-t-62mv-tanks-in-kherson-region/

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >anti-cumulative screens
          >anti-cum screens

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They are lpr and dnpr volunteers.
        Stop lying.

        On that subject, it feels like I haven't heard them mentioned much in reports recently. Have they ACTUALLY killed all the men by now?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Funnily enough media showing LDR and DPR troops fell off right around the time one of their units posted videos calling out russia for using them like cannon fodder and basically refusing to do any more than fight "defensively" in their own territories. I'm sure that's just a coincidence though and that those units leaders didn't get rolled into a ditch and their men reassigned new ones from russia :^)

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            When the LDR and DRP start to getting rowdy, Lugansk and Donestk are inmediately shelled by "ukranian artillery" for no reason whatsoever...
            That makes you wonder.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is no lpr or dnpr anymore, they "voted" to become a part of russia remember? This makes them russian forces.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          nyet, annexation has been of on hold until 2026.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >lpr and dnpr
        >volunteers
        """"volunteers""""

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's why it doesn't matter to Russia who can afford to lose millions of ethnics and poors because they're not moskals who matter.

        It's doing everyone a favor because if Russia has no use for you, you're truly worthless. Dunno how the separatist survivors feel about that but that problem gets smaller every day.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They are lpr and dnpr volunteers.

        Donbassers are conscripts, Russians are volunteers (sort of up until partial mobilisation).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I WANT to see the T-34/85 with ERA and thermals

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll believe this is being mass produced when I see T-62M with thermal sights abandoned in Ukraine. Until then these photos are just for show

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't matter how much they modernize them, the fact that they NEED to modernise shit thats ~60 years old is embarrassing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      20,000 T-72s in Kyiv by February, 2023.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And they'll all be driven by Ukrainians.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        absolutely BASED tanked abandoner anon
        doing God's work

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's armor would be such dogshit. Bet it could still kill Russians though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        M900 can at least beat T-72As frontally and T-72Bs from a relatively generous side angle
        but with the CITV, it would dab over any T-72 with a first strike advantage and hull-down

        Nah, give them upgraded Pattons since they're known to absolutely mog T-72s and 64s back when those tanks were seen as something to fear

        the M60A3 SLEP is supposed to put the M60 on par with the M1A1 in capability in every department except armor
        loader-assisted 120mm cannon can fire 6 RPM, has thermals for both gunner and commander, an improved engine that isnt beat up over 40 years of service, and RWS with a .50 replacing the original gun-turret cupola

        as long as it gets the first shot off, and with thermals it just might, it can take out pretty much any russian tank

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the M60A3 SLEP is supposed to put the M60 on par with the M1A1 in capability in every department
          except for crew survivability, optics, mobility
          The original M1A1 would be obsolete today as it lacks a CITV, has an ancient armor package and much worse sights

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >optics, mobility
            its been updated with modern FCS and gunners thermals
            mobility is improved with a new suspension and improved 950hp engine

            this would definitely have no problem dealing with T-72Bs or even B3s

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              moron this isn't wargame, you can't just put cage armor and composites + new electronics on an M60 and pretend it's to par with anything other than the very first block of Abrams

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/z0aXf07.jpg

      >I WANT to see the T-34/85 with ERA and thermals

      based and SUSK pilled, this is now a Sherman upgrade thread

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, give them upgraded Pattons since they're known to absolutely mog T-72s and 64s back when those tanks were seen as something to fear

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I want see hundreds of picrel decimating snowmorons.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          why was the minigun confiscated?
          also, why not use miniguns instead of m2 on tanks?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because the logi guys hate fun.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            because even the US Army has to sit down some times and Say "how much is this costing again?"
            which is why perfectly functional Ma Duece is still thrown on everything, fucker probably costs less than than the bolts used to mount it to the frame.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ah Dave Decker, I remember him, he did a 2nd tour in Vietnam as a loach door gunner because he wanted to fly. He died around 2000 from cancer caused by exposure to Agent Orange.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like a tank from metal slug

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/z0aXf07.jpg

      >I WANT to see the T-34/85 with ERA and thermals

      Let me guess, you 'need' more?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just two more weeks huh Ivan?

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    waiting for russia to modernize their bi-planes next.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How would one go about modernising a bi-plane?

      Body made of aluminium instead of balsa wood and string?

      An engine with more than 80hp?

      Mini-missiles strapped between the wings?

      The coolest thing we could possibly do is turn them into drones and start having dogfights with them. But that's far too expensive for Russia's current budget of fuck all, so we'll probably have to rule that option out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >russians fly their entire fleet of AN2s into Kiev
      >air defense just thinks its a flock of birds since they have a top speed of 40mph
      >one billion russian paratroopers run a train on zelensky

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >intercepted with surplus M45 quadmounts

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >modernize their T-62s
    a modernization would be giving the tank COMMANDERS thermals alongside gunners thermals

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    congratulations PUCCIA
    you did what the west did in the 80s to its old MBTs only 35 years later and not because you could, but because you fucking have to

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    At this point, any Warsaw Pact nation of the 1970s-80s is better armed than the Russian Federation of 2022.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why send more tanks when they've lost so many already?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can't into defense / offense without tanks.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seems wasteful at this point

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          At this stage the entire war is sunk cost, but monke doesn't care because he doesn't want to be Ghadaffi'd.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ABRAPS GOOD MUH MANUAL LOADER!! MUH AMMO DOOR!!!
    >Uh, T-62 is bad because... It just is ok?!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Uh, T-62 is bad because... It just is ok?!
      The autoloader itself isn't the problem, it's the poor crew survivability. That's even worse with the T-62 because the ammo stowage is pretty much wherever you can chuck a spare round and the crew are crammed in like sardines. Any penetrating hit will roast the crew even if they aren't sent into the stratosphere.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/T6JBmu8.jpg

        >ABRAPS GOOD MUH MANUAL LOADER!! MUH AMMO DOOR!!!
        >Uh, T-62 is bad because... It just is ok?!

        https://i.imgur.com/T6JBmu8.jpg

        >ABRAPS GOOD MUH MANUAL LOADER!! MUH AMMO DOOR!!!
        >Uh, T-62 is bad because... It just is ok?!

        ITT: Retards who don't know that the T-62 doesn't have a autoloader

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Read the post I replied to, I was saying the autoloader isn't the problem for the T-72. The big problem is crew survivability which is even worse in the 62

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          First guy does specify that T-62 doesn't have one, but it's evne worse because the ammo is stacked fucking everywhere.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That can be fixed but it requires a reworked turret with a bustle and Russia is already paying Kim through the nose for functional 115mm AP.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The autoloader itself isn't the problem, it's the poor crew survivability.

        You are completely making up shit, the T-62 does not have an autoloader, and it has full metal cartridges, which means that they wont get ignited from molten metal spray from a shaped charge penetration.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >retard has no idea about the ammo layout of a T62
      dunning kruger's finest right here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tank is tank cyka! Get in in tank!

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They would have been better off adapting the external camera system the DPRK uses on the Pokpung-ho so they could actually see stuff outside the tank. Of course they should adopt the everything from that tank but the cameras would be a good and cheap first step.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is Russia actually a looter-shooter state? What could be more looter-shooter than scrapping the large, relatively modern Soviet arms build-up for spare parts, and then having to scrounge around in warehouses abandoned by the USSR thirty years ago for only the most barely-functioning things you have left? Third world countries must be shaking and crying right now, they're literally watching the Russians cannibalize everything they can afford. Ukraine probably fields the largest, most-advanced fleet of legacy-Soviet equipment now between its T-80UD's, the upgraded T-64's, and the upgraded T-72's they're starting to field. I hope they get Kharkov tank plant up and running again after the war, it would be kino to see the T-80 line continue to survive.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just you wait until they deploy the mechs they've been building out of all those washing machines and fire engines

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's a late 90's upgrade.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    At this point Russians would find a way to brag about deploying musket equipped line infantry

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, if they fielded them with the pimped out 18th Century uniforms, I most certainly wouldn't complain. You might as well drip and die instead of just dying dressed as an extra playing a random mook in a B-Movie.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If the Russians show up in 18th-19th centaury uniforms and weapons, we're doing the same, grabbing France and invading Crimea again.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My dad told me stories about them when he worked as an army mechanic after being conscripted. They don’t have heaters and all the heat from the engine just escapes out, they sometimes had a sleeve that should’ve been used to heat the inside of the tank, but those were always lost or misplaced. So many crews would suffer frostbite after having to go out on simple training missions. The feet and the face of the gunner or driver were the first to be effected. Because the feet touch the metal floor at all time and you have to put your face against the optics to use them which were very cold at all times.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russian? Was he raped?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just once, and he beat the guy who did it nearly to death and got kicked out instead of being charged.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hot

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Russian
        No.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, it's still just a T-62. It's nice that the poor bastards crewing the thing aren't stuck with the export model anymore, but it's certainly no T-64.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ukrainan "upgrade"

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >your modernized T-62, sir

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do the upgrades improve abandoonment speed? When will we see ejection capsules like on F-111 instead of just tossing turrets and crew (who do bounce amusingly)?

    Russian vehicles need to solve the egress problem. Removal of hatches, doors and turrets in advance would save not just steel but expensive Ladas.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      imagine the smell

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