Hunting with .223

Boomer gun guys who hate ARs always bring up that it is a 'varmint rifle'. This makes me wonder, what animals is a 5.56/.223 rifle, 20 inch with a 1:12 twist rate, actually good for killing? Assume 55 grain bullet or less.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man, the most dangerous game of all

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Assume 55 grain bullet or less
    Coyotes and maybe javelina if you have to stay under 55gr, but why would you limit yourself to that?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think that when the AR15 was first made people were really loading bullets larger than that

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what animals
      Varmints. Coyote, raccoons, possums, prairie dogs, stuff like that.

      Fox, roe deer, grouse..Along those lines.

      55g? With a good jacket. It's more a question of what you are capable of than the round. Close 50 yard shots broadside on game like medium size whitetail. Longer shots like 100-200 yards on dogs and small wildcat.
      300+ yards on pest species.
      Really not a good choice on game much larger than 50lbs unless you can control your distance. Not good for anything thick skinned as it will want to slap hard and dump its energy too quickly at closer ranges leaving superficial wounding.
      Small black bear are pretty easy to drop. Larger and other bears, moose, bison, big cats, large wolf, absolutely not. Unless you are good at brain shots.

      .223 sucks as a general purpose hunting round
      .300blk is just 30-30 for zoomers and is a decent hunting round

      People drop tens of thousands of boar a year with 5.56, 22lr, and 17hmr.

      The second people were actually allowed to use whatever bullets they wanted on game, caliberfag arguments were BTFO eternal.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Boar aren't hard to kill. People do it with pellet guns.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Flat shooting, high velocity, small bore.
    When loaded with light thin-jacketed open tip projectiles the projectiles will disintegrate on impact doing massive soft tissue damage, but not achieving good penetration.
    So basically ideal for gophers, ground hogs, coyotes, javelinas, and foxes. Any small to medium animals that you don't intend to eat after you kill them.

    In some parts of Europe people also hunt large birds (sitting geese, wood grouse up in the tree tops, etc) with .223, but they use FMJ rounds for this.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >In some parts of Europe people also hunt large birds (sitting geese, wood grouse up in the tree tops, etc) with .223, but they use FMJ rounds for this.
      Boomer consensus is that heavier bullets like 6.5 or .30 cause less meat destruction than .223 which matters for grouse. Shooting geese is mostly pest control though.

      Hunted grouse on skis with my 308 today good trip but no luck with the birds. Had one potential shot I fucked up but shit happens.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wooden furniture AR
    SEXOOOO
    That is all.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's a plebbitor who used to be working on something like that

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bipeds, roughly 180 pounds, sometimes move in packs

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .223 with proper bullet selection will drop whitetail reliably. As always shot placement is key. Personally I prefer a hunting rifle to be slightly "overpowered" in the name of ethics. But .30-30 is for all intents and purposes ballistically the same as 7.63x39, and people used to kill deer that were arguably bigger than now with stuff like .44 Winchester which barely pushes over 500 to 600 ft# of muzzle energy.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what animals
    Varmints. Coyote, raccoons, possums, prairie dogs, stuff like that.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fox, roe deer, grouse..Along those lines.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    55g? With a good jacket. It's more a question of what you are capable of than the round. Close 50 yard shots broadside on game like medium size whitetail. Longer shots like 100-200 yards on dogs and small wildcat.
    300+ yards on pest species.
    Really not a good choice on game much larger than 50lbs unless you can control your distance. Not good for anything thick skinned as it will want to slap hard and dump its energy too quickly at closer ranges leaving superficial wounding.
    Small black bear are pretty easy to drop. Larger and other bears, moose, bison, big cats, large wolf, absolutely not. Unless you are good at brain shots.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .223 sucks as a general purpose hunting round
    .300blk is just 30-30 for zoomers and is a decent hunting round

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    55 gr copper solids will cleanly take down deer and hogs.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Check your state laws

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