How you would rank eu states

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They all belong to the same rank: Yuropoor

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Real answers only, i need to know best outdoors locations in eu

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        designated shitting street #4 is my favorite sir

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nordics are pretty good. In legal terms Sweden is probably the best since their right to roam laws are the most permissive. As long as you aren't in someones literal backyard or in an enclosed military base you can camp and hike wherever. Switzerland has similar laws but some cantons are slightly more restrictive. Graubünden (Grisons) and Ticino, by far the most picturesque and stereotypically Swiss cantons, located within the alps, have great hiking routes and are also very permissive. As is in their nature, the Swiss are highly bound by their rigid codes and laws, so you should have no issues hiking there. The only downside to Switzerland is that it's more expensive. Austria allows hiking but not camping without asking the owners of the land before. Germany has federal right-to-roam laws, and Bavaria (the state with mountains) has the most permissive of these. My friends have also hiked in Portugal, but their infrastructure is worse, their rural areas are very much dying, and to my knowledge, they have no right-to-roam counterpart. It is a whole lot cheaper, especially in the poorer northern regions. They still enjoyed their time, though.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          true for switzerland. i want to add that if you come here it can be difficult to find out if you're allowed to sleep PrepHole, because of the many different local laws/regulations. nonetheless, never had a problem. if you're above the tree line you can basically do as you wish, except you're in a protected encironment. under the tree line you are always allowed to sleep in a bivi and also in a tent if you're just resting for one night.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >need to know best outdoors locations in eu
        1. Lappland
        2. Southern Norwegian Mountains
        3. Iceland
        4. Murmansk Oblast (Russia, Khibiny Mountains)
        5. Scottland
        6. Carpates (Romania, Ukraine) and connecting corridor to East Germany: Elbe-Sandstone Mountains through hungary, slowakia, cezch republic
        7. Republic of Karelia (Russia)
        8. Scandinavian forest regions and lakes (Sweden, Finnland, Norway)
        9. Alps (low rank because high population density and tourism)
        10. Corsica (amazing mountains, best outside tourist season if you have lots of experience with bad weather in the mountains)
        11. Wales (just nice)
        12. Pyrenees and Spanish deserts (low rank because lots of laws and corrupt cops)
        13. Mediterranean Islands (from La Palma to Crete) and Greece (great hiking and outdoor in the hillcountry but you have to plan carefully to avoid locals)
        14. German forests
        15. Balkan region
        Havent Been:
        - Estland, Lithuania, Latvia, Koenigsberg (don't know, never been. Its lots of forest and little law enforcement)
        - Eastern Ukraine, Belarus (probably amazing, chernobyl)
        - Ireland

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Great list anon very close to how I'd rank them based on the few I've been too (1,3,5,8,9,11,12,13,14), I'd sling the Alps down a bit based on what it was like when I was there, "high density" doesn't quite cut it.
          Kinda disagree with Lapland in position 1 due to the insects, though I've only visited in summer.
          Ireland is worth a look in if you get the chance too, Killarney is in particular pretty good.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > I'd sling the Alps down a bit based on what it was like when I was there
            I live here and some trails should really only be visited by pensioners, tourists, and people who are more interested in sports, or mountaineering with a competitive mindset, but there are still areas where you can just wing it and have a good time.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >pyrenees
          >lots of laws and corrupt cops
          Examples? Me and a few buddies were planning on doing a skimo trip in the Pyrenees next year. Now I wanna know what I'm in for.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its maybe not an issue if you go during winter. Wildcamping during the hiking season can lead to problems though.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Wildcamping
              There's that word again.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >80% of people that go "camping" only stay at prepared campgrounds. The destinction is relevant. Dont pretent this isnt the case in the US.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Reminds me of pic related.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You cant legally camp outside campgrounds (with the exception of some high altitude trails). You can use a tarp because its not considered camping tho

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He's memeing lol, the pyrenees are one of the chillest places in the world

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Have you had bad experiences with cops in the Pyrenees? I've only found peace and solitude there, roaming free and wild camping. Must be some of the most pristine wilderness in Europe.

          https://i.imgur.com/1DJ7Euv.png

          >pyrenees
          >lots of laws and corrupt cops
          Examples? Me and a few buddies were planning on doing a skimo trip in the Pyrenees next year. Now I wanna know what I'm in for.

          Anecdotally, I don't know what that guy is talking about.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          How are the Balkans lower than the German tree farms?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          wat makes wales better than england i thought its like just the same ?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Wales has better mountains. Very serene and lonely if you wing it, and scramble off the path.

            How are the Balkans lower than the German tree farms?

            Balkans suck. People actually shot at you. Unlike in Ukraine where you can just walk up and into Chernobyl.
            German tree farms are noice.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Haven't been
          >Eastern Ukraine

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Scandinavian forest regions and lakes
          >Finnland
          Finland isn't part of scandinavia. Also number one spot should just be Norway in general

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Why? It's just mountains. France for example has mountains, coastal flood plains, and different climate zones and a good chunk of land with very low population density. Italy is a completely different country from top to bottom. Norway is just mountains.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Norway is just mountains
              You know nothing lol

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It is clearly just mountains. And snow. Which you can find in Alps and other mountain ranges. How the fuck is it the best country in Europe for PrepHole when it's just that shit repeated? I'd rather have more diverse options. Plus everything costs a lot in Norway, so even if you visit you are paying 5x what you'd be paying for any other trip. Are you an American or what?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Only thing you're correct about in the entire shit you wrote is that it's expensive. I look outside my window and see PrepHole landscape you couldn't imagine in your wildest dream

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Sure but you can just buy food in sweden and sleep in a tent.
                Middle class Norwegians get their groceries in Sweden too. Its just the poor people that have to pay Norwegian prices, lol.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                no one in sweden is gonna just let u buy their food and sleep on their sacred solstice land, retard

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                im sure everyone in scandinavinia is just lining up with stores and sheles stocked with foods that they are waiting 4 u to buy, are u stupid or somethign?? the north is closed to peasants like u

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                stay in ur alps ill stay in mine, bitch. soft cracka u aint bout it bro

                >highest point only 2,5km

                I get to hikes from where I stay in the summer at 750m that are nearly the same height or taller.

                It's over for Scandibros...

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                bassed godlike from the purest peaks

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The entire area is covered with stone huts. Thousands of people used to live there just one hundred years ago, now there's maybe around 30 permanent residents. In summer it gets full of hikers. There's lots of cattle trails that are not marked leading up to alpes, but they can be dangerous. Plenty of steep drops. Sentiero Bove is a very cool trail to follow, but it needs a bit of mountain experience and surefootedness. Locals are very cool, they'll give you coffee and something to eat if you look like you're in trouble. I met a guy living out in an abandoned village by himself, for him it takes two hours to go through a sketchy, unmaintained trail with rotten planks hanging off sheer cliff faces to get to the nearest road. From there another two hours to go down to the nearest town with something resembling a public transport schedule.

                Pic related is pretty accurate. I ended up meeting with them in loads of rain, so they loaned me a rain jacket. I left it in the village that I posted before at the bar. I doubt many people would be as hospitable in Norway t b h, but I might be wrong.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Better pic of the church from a DSLR.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I love Alps so much.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/zPybJlX.jpg

                Better pic of the church from a DSLR.

                https://i.imgur.com/bAjUtUz.jpg

                I love Alps so much.

                divine
                jesus-like

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                What does height have to do with it? Doesn't change the fact that Norway has way more beautiful nature.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                i'm 193 cm that's what it has to do with it, suckl my nuts hoe

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You said I ain't about that life, but I'm saying it's probably harsher up the really high Alpine peaks than anywhere in Scandinavia. But aesthetics matter, and IMHO Alps are the most beautiful mountains in the world. They vary a lot too with different climates and microclimates all over the place. Best ones are in Northern Italy I'd say, especially when you pair it with the fact it has the best climate in immediate vicinity to Alps (warm summer sub-tropics).

                https://i.imgur.com/Zz0TuzJ.jpg

                you know not all mountains are the same and snow is usually gone between may and november...
                pic related is clearly just mountains i guess?
                its the mix of it all thats great here and the fact some of our mountain regions are flattened out by ice age and make them much more hikeable than other mountains.

                True, but my point is that the countries bordering Alps all have Alps AND bunch of other PrepHole places, so there's a lot more diversity. This is why I wouldn't rank Switzerland as best PrepHole even if Alps are amazing. In Italy or France you have the Alps a bunch of other places to go PrepHole in. Can you really rank a country with just mountains as the best PrepHole? Maybe if you like mountains only, but even then most people would prefer Alps to any other mountain range in Europe.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Can you really rank a country with just mountains as the best PrepHole?
                no and thats why norway is great because it isnt just mountains. not best, that was another dude saying that.
                in terms of rights and easy access to pretty desolate areas nordics are best by far. too bad out nature might not be what you want.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                stay in ur alps ill stay in mine, bitch. soft cracka u aint bout it bro

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                you know not all mountains are the same and snow is usually gone between may and november...
                pic related is clearly just mountains i guess?
                its the mix of it all thats great here and the fact some of our mountain regions are flattened out by ice age and make them much more hikeable than other mountains.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                there are old fold and new fold mountains,
                bros don't be knowin this doe

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                let the mountain moron spend his life climbing steep mountains bragging about how high they are, i rather go camping and fishing in this soulfull terrain

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                That pic reminds me of trøndelag
                >aesthetics matter, and IMHO Alps are the most beautiful mountains in the world
                Depending on where in Norway you are, the mountains look very different. Beats most things majority of people have seen, I guarantee you, crazy variations.
                >country with just mountains
                Norway is kind of known as the country of fjords. The variation is crazy, from dense forests to wide open plateaus like Hardangervidda

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                FUCK I forgot the reply thing

                You said I ain't about that life, but I'm saying it's probably harsher up the really high Alpine peaks than anywhere in Scandinavia. But aesthetics matter, and IMHO Alps are the most beautiful mountains in the world. They vary a lot too with different climates and microclimates all over the place. Best ones are in Northern Italy I'd say, especially when you pair it with the fact it has the best climate in immediate vicinity to Alps (warm summer sub-tropics).
                [...]
                True, but my point is that the countries bordering Alps all have Alps AND bunch of other PrepHole places, so there's a lot more diversity. This is why I wouldn't rank Switzerland as best PrepHole even if Alps are amazing. In Italy or France you have the Alps a bunch of other places to go PrepHole in. Can you really rank a country with just mountains as the best PrepHole? Maybe if you like mountains only, but even then most people would prefer Alps to any other mountain range in Europe.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Norway could buy your entire continent

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fly fish, so Iceland would be #1. Iceland is beautiful and has a couple dozen established hiking trails/routes, most of which are teeny-tiny compared to what we have in the US, but then so is Iceland. Only a few of those are multi-day hikes. Primitive camping isn't technically allowed, but if you can't get away with that in a country with a population density so low, you have no business going off-trail or straying from established campsites in the first place.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germany today is far more restrictive than like in 2015. It really went downhill, especially for caravaning and anything even remotely close to touristic areas.
    Certain locations in upper Bavaria have 500€ fines for just sleeping in your car.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Germany today is far more restrictive than like in 2015. It really went downhill, especially for caravaning and anything even remotely close to touristic areas.
      >Certain locations in upper Bavaria have 500€ fines for just sleeping in your car.
      Not an issue for non-whites, FYI.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Caravaning is kinda gay anyways tbh. Also the law specifies "tent" so cowboycamping is legal. also tarps are a legal grey zone, so are bivies. We actually have right to roam for hiking, wich is nice, and not many people know. Also, just dont get caught. Wo kein Kläger, da kein Richter.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Do people really think the police are going to do midnight trail sweeps to catch people camping? Fucking lol. The laws are there to prevent gypsies setting up for weeks on end, not for some hiking twink putting up their bivy bag for a night. Why are europeens so keen to self cuck themselves?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They catched me twice tarping but just asked a few questions and left. I guess if you don't plan to stay for a week, trash the area, annoy wildlife or make a fire where you shouldn't they decide to not use the laws because no harm is done.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        would be interesting to know what country this was in.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Go to the Carpathians and Transylvania, before gypsies wreck it for good.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm living in France right now and this country seems very diverse in terms of landscapes, mountains and even sub climates. I quite like the Italian part of Alps, IMHO it is the most beautiful place on Earth, Northern Italy. France has fairly low density spots in the middle, so I'm banking on buying a cheap home out in the bush in a few years.

    Personally I find Nordics very boring. They're great to visit, but living there must get awful because you are pretty much stuck with the same biome and it isn't cheap to travel around. You get hardly any sunlight for most of the year. Would like to make one trip there, but I don't see myself doing it more than twice.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Also as far as legality goes, you can pretty much get away by camping anywhere. The real problem is fire, but just use a camping stove for cooking. If you're really rural, I doubt anyone is going to catch you making a random bonfire next to a river in middle of nowhere. There's probably bit of a divide between Germanic and non-Germanic parts as krauts seem to be more uptight and pedantic about rules, whereas Italians will probably just invite you for dinner if they catch you camping in the wrong spot, depending on your behaviour obviously. I wouldn't discount Bavarians or Swabians being good sort, but I definitely wouldn't count on anything in Switzerland, holy fuck they're hardly people there in terms of rigidity.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Pfft. Imagine not hiking Bosnia and dodging landmines.
    Soft bitches. Ngmi

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'll be backpacking through EU in late may and hope I don't get fined too many times for starting a fire where I wasn't supposed to lol.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Those fines can be up to 10,000 or 20,000 Euro so you better be extra careful.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Starting a fire will get you fined. You can camp in illegal spots and police may let you alone if they even find you, they dont care that much if you behave like a human being tbh, but starting fires is a big deal in most europoor countries. They'll go looking for you if they see smoke and then they will get you fined. I had to pay 150€ last winter because I started a fire at night (in winter you can make fires because is weeds burning season, but aparently not at night)
      t.spaniard

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        i have made fires countless times and never had any problems just follow a few simple rules.
        >only make fire in the darkness so that the smoke is not visible
        >no line of sight between your flame and any nearby settlements, roads or trailes, best to make your fire in a small defilade
        >use the fire to prepare your food and warm yourself but dont go overbord, the longer you let it burn the greater the likelyhood of beeing spotted
        Also helps if your campsite is tidy and you yourself look presentable, incase anyone comes knocking
        If i go fishing with my old man all these rules get thrown out the window, since you can get away with so much shit, when you are old.
        t. germanoid

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's illegal in most countries, specifically between April and October, but it really depends where and what you are doing. If you're out far away from roads in Alps or in some forest not known for tourism, you can probably get away with small fires. But like the other Anon said, the fines are very, very high and you're guaranteed to get them in countries that have wildfire problems like Spain. Just get a camping stove unless you're feeling particularly retarded and want to get 20k€ bill just because.

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