How would you replace this panel yourself? The step by step, 125A replacement and how long should it take to do?

How would you replace this panel yourself? The step by step, 125A replacement and how long should it take to do?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >125A
    OUCH!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd probably pull the meter but I'm ok with OP cowboying up and doing this live.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guess what: You don't!

    Hire an electrician to get this job done.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, don't frick with wiring if you don't know what you're doing. If you have to ask us, you don't and we probably don't either.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You could duplex up and get 6 more circuits out of it. Why bother?

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >buy new larger panel
    >Drill lots of holes in back
    >mount on top of old panel
    >Pull old wires into new panel
    >Splice longer wires as needed
    >Install all new breakers
    >Done
    Should take 30 mins. 20 if you're sober.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Sit back and enjoy your new bonfire

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It took 4 hours! disappointed because the wire wasn't as long as I wanted it for the 60A breaker so it ended up a bit tight.

      And before anyone asks I did put in a bonding screw after pic since the feed doesn't have a dedicated ground

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can you describe the path from the meter to the panel? Where is the disconnect physically located in relation to the panel? Why didn’t they run a ground? What type of structure is this?

        It looks good, I don’t see any obvious mistakes. Nice autism loops

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The meter pack is on the other side of the house and that's its disc. It was probably cheaper to not run the ground. The system still functions without it, baby steps for now lol. Whole place needs new shit tbh. Loose plugs, light switches that don't do serve a use; shit, one of those breakers doesn't even seem to control anything either.

          I just did the one upstairs with better autism loops, thank you very much

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            So the only way to kill this panel is by pulling the meter? Is this a house? When was it built, do you kno

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's got meter and main panel on the outside with 100A feeeing. The outside should be replaced too by the looks of it. Idk when it was built

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                So there's a 100A disconnect lever you can pull to kill it at or near the meter box? It should have a ground run out to it in that case and then have the neutral and ground bonded there. What type of meter grounding does it have?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you sure the neutral isn't bonded elsewhere like by the actual meter/shutoff

                Yes the neutral is bonded at the service yall... 100a breaker to a 125a sub

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                If the neutral is bonded at the service disconnect outside, then you should run a separate ground conductor from there to this subpanel and remove the bond in this panel.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                What size wire in the SE cable? (You should have used SER, you don't have a ground).
                Is there anti-oxidant (Noalox) on your Al terminations?
                No ground
                the service disconnect is with the meter and that's where neutral-ground bond has to be.
                You did a good job separating grounds and neutrals but it is meaningless if there is no separate ground conductor back to the main.
                It will work but with the ground missing you have a good possibility for shock hazards. Nothing beyond that panel (nor the panel itself) is properly grounded. You didn't use any AFCI Breakers (it's a house correct?)
                It's a good guess and decent workmanship but that won't pass a municipal or state inspection anywhere in the US.

                [...]
                [...]
                Holy shit. here it is again as a complete thought in standard American-english;
                SER cable size for a 100Amp residential sub-panel is 2-2-2-4
                You could get proper grounding by installing a #4AWG copper wire (insulated or bare) (#4 cuz then you don't have to put it in conduit) from an insulated-from-panel ground bar (it has little plastic holders that stand the ground bar off the metal interior of the panel) from that panels new ground bar to the main. Install a ground lug in direct contact with the box of the main. That lug needs 2 holes for wires, 1 for the sub panel ground and 1 for bond. Bond size can be #8 AWG.
                Whew, finally.

                there is absolutely nothing wrong with aluminum feeders and it dumb that you nards keep repeating the "aluminum bad" meme. If you'd been paying attention, the problematic aluminum wiring was a different alloy (which is now deprecated) being in contact with copper conductors using wiring devices that weren't suitable for this application.

                There is nothing wrong with the use of aluminum feeders, and they are code listed for this application

                Quality posts, written by gentlemen

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you sure the neutral isn't bonded elsewhere like by the actual meter/shutoff

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        What size wire in the SE cable? (You should have used SER, you don't have a ground).
        Is there anti-oxidant (Noalox) on your Al terminations?
        No ground
        the service disconnect is with the meter and that's where neutral-ground bond has to be.
        You did a good job separating grounds and neutrals but it is meaningless if there is no separate ground conductor back to the main.
        It will work but with the ground missing you have a good possibility for shock hazards. Nothing beyond that panel (nor the panel itself) is properly grounded. You didn't use any AFCI Breakers (it's a house correct?)
        It's a good guess and decent workmanship but that won't pass a municipal or state inspection anywhere in the US.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        What size wire in the SE cable? (You should have used SER, you don't have a ground).
        Is there anti-oxidant (Noalox) on your Al terminations?
        No ground
        the service disconnect is with the meter and that's where neutral-ground bond has to be.
        You did a good job separating grounds and neutrals but it is meaningless if there is no separate ground conductor back to the main.
        It will work but with the ground missing you have a good possibility for shock hazards. Nothing beyond that panel (nor the panel itself) is properly grounded. You didn't use any AFCI Breakers (it's a house correct?)
        It's a good guess and decent workmanship but that won't pass a municipal or state inspection anywhere in the US.

        SER cable size for a 100Amp residential sub-panel is 2-2-2-4
        You could get proper grounding by a #4AWG copper (#4 cuz then you don't have to put it in conduit) from an insulated from panel (little plastic holders that stand the ground bar off the interior of the panel) from that pamels new ground bar to the main. Install a lug in direct contact with the box of the main. That lug needs 2 holes for wires, 1 for the sub panel ground and 1 for bond. Bond size can be #8 AWG.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You could get proper grounding by a #4AWG copper
          damnit
          *You could get proper grounding by*installing a #4AWG copper *wire....

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          [...]
          Holy shit. here it is again as a complete thought in standard American-english;
          SER cable size for a 100Amp residential sub-panel is 2-2-2-4
          You could get proper grounding by installing a #4AWG copper wire (insulated or bare) (#4 cuz then you don't have to put it in conduit) from an insulated-from-panel ground bar (it has little plastic holders that stand the ground bar off the metal interior of the panel) from that panels new ground bar to the main. Install a ground lug in direct contact with the box of the main. That lug needs 2 holes for wires, 1 for the sub panel ground and 1 for bond. Bond size can be #8 AWG.
          Whew, finally.

          [...]
          [...]
          Holy shit. here it is again as a complete thought in standard American-english;
          SER cable size for a 100Amp residential sub-panel is 2-2-2-4
          You could get proper grounding by installing a #4AWG copper wire (insulated or bare) (#4 cuz then you don't have to put it in conduit) from an insulated-from-panel ground bar (it has little plastic holders that stand the ground bar off the metal interior of the panel) from that panels new ground bar to the main. Install a ground lug in direct contact with the box of the main. That lug needs 2 holes for wires, 1 for the sub panel ground and 1 for bond. Bond size can be #8 AWG.
          Whew, finally.

          Okay everyone here is aware of the need for a dedicated ground, feel free to trench out the whole frickin ceiling to do it. One step at a time to fix old shit unless all the walls get ripped open, which the dude ain't about to do lol. Check out this other one I did, pretty happy with it outside of the obvious

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Again, nice autism loops
            You can make the panel as cute as you want, but unless you can figure out how to run a ground, you’re not an electrician. Figure out how to get the wire from the first disconnect to the panel and do the binding properly

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              *bonding thanks autocorrect

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              There's a few ways to do it, but homeowner isn't gonna pay for all that labor and material and neither am I lol. Can't turn down the work just because of that, if you can then that's your prerogative. Maybe I'll be going back because there's a bunch of other bullshit wrong with it. Looks like selectricity was there at some point as one of the upstairs receptacles just has a wire coming straight through the floor, 18" up on the outside of the wall and into a receptacle

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/TClsWez.jpg

            It took 4 hours! disappointed because the wire wasn't as long as I wanted it for the 60A breaker so it ended up a bit tight.

            And before anyone asks I did put in a bonding screw after pic since the feed doesn't have a dedicated ground

            Where's yer ground, homosexual?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Why didn’t you put red on the right?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                does it matter

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                More importantly why didn't you use any cable glands or clamps or fucjin anything.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I installed p clamps after that pic.
                Was going to run that romex in conduit eventually just haven't gotten around to it, or maybe I did I can't fricking remember it's been a while

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he doesn’t know what happens if you don’t put red on the right
                Uh oh

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        SER cable size for a 100Amp residential sub-panel is 2-2-2-4
        You could get proper grounding by a #4AWG copper (#4 cuz then you don't have to put it in conduit) from an insulated from panel (little plastic holders that stand the ground bar off the interior of the panel) from that pamels new ground bar to the main. Install a lug in direct contact with the box of the main. That lug needs 2 holes for wires, 1 for the sub panel ground and 1 for bond. Bond size can be #8 AWG.

        >You could get proper grounding by a #4AWG copper
        damnit
        *You could get proper grounding by*installing a #4AWG copper *wire....

        Holy shit. here it is again as a complete thought in standard American-english;
        SER cable size for a 100Amp residential sub-panel is 2-2-2-4
        You could get proper grounding by installing a #4AWG copper wire (insulated or bare) (#4 cuz then you don't have to put it in conduit) from an insulated-from-panel ground bar (it has little plastic holders that stand the ground bar off the metal interior of the panel) from that panels new ground bar to the main. Install a ground lug in direct contact with the box of the main. That lug needs 2 holes for wires, 1 for the sub panel ground and 1 for bond. Bond size can be #8 AWG.
        Whew, finally.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Bond size can be #8 AWG
          COPPER
          aluminum #6

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    *I* would, except for what appears to be an Al connection there on the right. Not gonna touch that.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How would you replace this panel yourself?
    I'd be a massive Black person and buy a new panel and cut the back out of it with all the bits, then gut the old box and self tapper in the new back.
    Then do the same with the lid, can ov paint and good as new.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mnnnnff
    Look at those sexy aluminum feeders.
    I can smell them from here.
    Like cheap cologne and sadness.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      there is absolutely nothing wrong with aluminum feeders and it dumb that you nards keep repeating the "aluminum bad" meme. If you'd been paying attention, the problematic aluminum wiring was a different alloy (which is now deprecated) being in contact with copper conductors using wiring devices that weren't suitable for this application.

      There is nothing wrong with the use of aluminum feeders, and they are code listed for this application

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    do americans really

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    you should stream your live attempt to change it so we can have a record of your death when you blow yourself up

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